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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:16pm On Feb 04, 2019
We are not a federal state! If our taxation systems were similar then we would make a fair comparison.We had this debate long ago,you are just repeating stuff.Start collecting taxes,those taxes that seem big to you are actually so low!
68816419:


Fcking fool..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 4:17pm On Feb 04, 2019
NairobiWalker:


The Ghanaian made a mistake. The Nigerian arrogantly 'corrected' him claiming the picture is from Nigeria. Stop being a Hypocrite, your Nigerian friends hurl insults here all the time.

this is a link to the story the ghanaian was using the image to lie that they already have a rail project

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Ghana-Burkina-Faso-agree-to-implement-railway-project-709217#

anyway i know such will not surprise you since you guys are also notorious for stealing images of other countries and passing it off as yours kazikazi can confirm this
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:18pm On Feb 04, 2019
I wonder how that is an achievement yet they have somehow independent state governments!
Just30:
dont mind him
the most productive part of nigeria could only raise 1.5 billion dollars

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:20pm On Feb 04, 2019
Just30:
and compare what

a failure and a success


we dont compare ourself to a lagging behind country
We seek to compare ourselves to South Korea
A country we consider as our mate yet far ahead of us

You don't compare yourself with failure
And Nigeria is a failure
In Africa you can look up to countries which are a success or trying to be successful
You can compare your self with Botswana Namibia south Africa Rwanda Mauritius Seychelles Algeria such countries
Not a cesspool called Nigeria they have nothing good you can't learn from a failure ( Nigeria )

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:21pm On Feb 04, 2019
Jonraid:
So Lagos STATE IGR projections for 2018 were 2.4 billion US dollars and Nairobi managed to collect a real and not a projected 1 billion US dollars?

Remember our counties don't collect all the taxes,they only collect small service taxes like parking fees and small business registration fees.With all that Lagos population,you should be ashamed!
ur stupid tiny Capital only generated 10,992,575.00(ten millions) United States Dollar i the year 2017 while Lagos alone generated 1,880,136,450.00(almost two billion) United States Dollar

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:24pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:
if you guys can compete like you claim sell your market to other african countries na! abi can't almighty gain footing in the rest of west africa, east or central africa?
is this how dumb you are
you are late to this convo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:24pm On Feb 04, 2019
68816419:

ur stupid tiny Capital only generated 10,992,575.00(ten millions) United States Dollar i the year 2017 while Lagos alone generated 1,880,136,450.00(almost two billion) United States Dollar

Poor Nigerians your stupidity intensifies with each passing day
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:24pm On Feb 04, 2019
Jonraid:
We are not a federal state! If our taxation systems were similar then we would make a fair comparison.We had this debate long ago,you are just repeating stuff.Start collecting taxes,those taxes that seem big to you are actually so low!
Lagos IGR is 98% generated from taxes

Lagos State officially notes that there are 12 taxesandleviescollectablebythe government, namely:
Personal Income Tax, Withholding Tax (from individuals only), Capital Gains Tax (individuals only) and Stamp Duties on instruments executed by individuals. The State also collects tax on Pools Betting and Lotteries; Gaming and casino taxes; Road Taxes; Business premises registration fee; Development Levy (individuals only), Naming of Streets registration in the State capital and Right of Occupancy fees on lands owned by the State Government in urban areas of the State. Other revenue sources include Market taxes and levies where the State Finance is involved in the construction of the market, as well as HotelOccupancyandRestaurant Consumption Tax.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:28pm On Feb 04, 2019
Check what Nairobi county is supposed to tax then!
68816419:

Lagos IGR is 98% generated from taxes

Lagos State officially notes that there are 12 taxesandleviescollectablebythe government, namely:
Personal Income Tax, Withholding Tax (from individuals only), Capital Gains Tax (individuals only) and Stamp Duties on instruments executed by individuals. The State also collects tax on Pools Betting and Lotteries; Gaming and casino taxes; Road Taxes; Business premises registration fee; Development Levy (individuals only), Naming of Streets registration in the State capital and Right of Occupancy fees on lands owned by the State Government in urban areas of the State. Other revenue sources include Market taxes and levies where the State Finance is involved in the construction of the market, as well as HotelOccupancyandRestaurant Consumption Tax.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:28pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:


this is a link to the story the ghanaian was using the image to lie that they already have a rail project

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Ghana-Burkina-Faso-agree-to-implement-railway-project-709217#

anyway i know such will not surprise you since you guys are also notorious for stealing images of other countries and passing it off as yours kazikazi can confirm this
and how is the project nigerian ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:29pm On Feb 04, 2019
tylann:

Poor Nigerians your stupidity intensifies with each passing day
hahahahah grin grin grin I didn't make it up my self BUT got them from your own government

Lagos alone generates at least 5 times of what the whole of Kenya generates(reasons why Lagos economy is by far larger than Kenya economy wink wink) ........ grin grin grin grin grin grin

LAGOS IGR -₦680 billion= 1,879,860,000.00 United States Dollar ($1.8 B)
KENYA IGR -Sh25.9 billion = 258,825,175.00 United States Dollar( $259 M)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 4:33pm On Feb 04, 2019
vaxx:


have you heard of geo Payment, An electronic payment that enables customers of the bank to send and receive money when in proximity to other customers of the bank

of course, I've heard of geo payment n I know it originated in SA, FMB (a South African bank) in Ghana introduced it to ghana, what has ur indigenous banks introduced?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 4:35pm On Feb 04, 2019
Just30:
and how is the project nigerian ?
did i say it was? plus when are you going to apologize to the kenyans for posting their picture as yours
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 4:39pm On Feb 04, 2019
Just30:
and compare what
a failure and a success

we dont compare ourself to a lagging behind country We seek to compare ourselves to South Korea A country we consider as our mate yet far ahead of us
lol south k? it's a dream for you great grand children
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 4:40pm On Feb 04, 2019
Jonraid:
Kenya doesn't need Nigeria's yams!
calm ur nerves, I'm not flooding ur market with nigerian yams, i only used that as an example since kenya has abundant coffee and 9ja has yam.

I only raised the point cos rvp said single currency is not needed in africa, and since both of u can't answer it, it makes me wonder how the acfta will work.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:41pm On Feb 04, 2019
Just30:
and how is the project nigerian ?

Don't mind him
We had already put that issue to rest
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:42pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:
did i say it was? plus when are you going to apologize to the kenyans for posting their picture as yours

He has nothing to apologize
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:43pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:
did i say it was? plus when are you going to apologize to the kenyans for posting their picture as yours
are you insane
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:44pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:
did i say it was? plus when are you going to apologize to the kenyans for posting their picture as yours
i give you a pic of what a 1300km of rail will look like
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 4:45pm On Feb 04, 2019
tylann:

He has nothing to apologize
lol of course hypocrite like you will see nothing but once a nigerian does it all of you will wax lyrical about all our ills real or imagined

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:54pm On Feb 04, 2019
theenchanter:
of course, I've heard of geo payment n I know it originated in SA, FMB (a South African bank) in Ghana introduced it to ghana, what has ur indigenous banks introduced?
check the fidelity bank app
check the ecobank Ghana app
check the barclays Ghana app
check the standard chartered bank App
check the Cal App

those are only banks app
i dont want to add third parties apps

with all of them, you can do cashless deposits
and even create a bank account.



take a loan
move money from one account to another bank account
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:55pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:
lol of course hypocrite like you will see nothing but once a nigerian does it all of you will wax lyrical about all our ills real or imagined

So you want just30 to apologize because of a picture are you normal
Ibrahimis reposted the pic saying it is Nigerian not Ghanaian
I corrected him and we put that issue to rest
I don't know why you are over concerned about picture
The picture is Kenyan not Ghanaian or Nigerian as simple as that
No big deal
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:55pm On Feb 04, 2019
edon21:

lol south k?
it's a dream for you great grand children

se this dumb kid
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:55pm On Feb 04, 2019
Jonraid:
Check what Nairobi county is supposed to tax then!
Do you mean this ?
Nairobi County

Nairobi County raised total revenue of Kshs. 2,240.5 million from various sources against a target of Kshs. 2,743 million in the period March to June 2013. This amount excludes Local Authority Transfer Fund (LATF) of Ksh156.8 million received in the month of April 2013.

The Single business permit and parking fees remain highest revenue sources for the county. The money collected from local sources was spent at source which contravenes Article 207 of the Constitution. The county government received a total of Kshs. 489.5 million from National government as a grant of its share of revenue allocation for the period March to June 2013 for recurrent expenditure. The county also received Kshs. 61.6 million from the Transition Authority for development expenditure. The Nairobi County Assembly was allocated of the total amount of Kshs. 323.2 million and spent a total of Kshs.162.1 million while County Executive was allocated Kshs. 87.8 million and spent Kshs. 35 million. Financial Management services was allocated Kshs. 78.5 and spent Kshs. 73.6 million.

The County Budget Coordinator noted the following key factors that affected budgeted implementation for the period March to June 2013. These include shortfalls in revenue collections; Considerable amount of revenue expenditure was executed through imprest. This is a great concern due to the risk of cash handling and possibility of misuse. County treasury should exercise strict control on issuance and surrender of imprest.

The current requirement that imprest be surrendered within 48 hours must be strictly be implemented. Staff unrest caused by delays in salary payment has also affected budget implementation. The county is not sweeping the local revenue collection to the County Revenue fund which is in the Central Bank and staff salary arrears that have caused staff unrest.

To improve budget execution for the county government the county budget coordinator recommends that there is need for strict adherence to the Constitution and the PFM regulations to ensure prudent use of public resources and serve the public effectively
Nairobi City County Reports
During Governor Evans Kidero’s regime in 2016-17, parking fees were at Sh1.98 billion, rates Sh2.26 billion, SBP at Sh1.7 billion, billboards and adverts at Sh720 million, and building permits at Sh1.28 billion.

City Hall is set to lower the daily downtown parking fees from Sh300 to Sh200 in attempt to increase revenue collection.

In 2013, Kidero increased parking fees from Sh140 to Sh300 but during election campaigns last year, Sonko pledged to reinstate it to Sh140, which has not happened.

According to the 2018-19 County Fiscal Strategy Paper (CFSP) released early this year, Nairobi has not hit its revenue target since 2013 by between 20 and 25 per cent.

For the last four financial years, billboards and advertising has been the best performing revenue stream as per set targets, while building permits have been relatively poor.

Land rates have been persistently the largest revenue stream, generating Sh10.27 billion over the last four financial years.

Poor collection mechanisms, poor rates records and inadequate enforcement are some of the challenges the land rates sector faces.

High default rate on payments, weak enforcement mechanisms and slow pace of devolution of the SBP have been blamed for its poor performance.

The SBPs are issued for enterprises under The City of Nairobi (Licensing of Premise and Traders By-Laws 2007 ) that wish to operate within the limits of Nairobi city.

During pronouncement of the county budget in June, former acting Finance Executive Charles Kerich and Budget Committee chairman Robert Mbatia said the prolonged electioneering period and post-election protests in the capital affected the county’s revenue collection for 2017-18.

“We had like a whole seven months of campaigns and protests last year. During this time, people were not paying and there was no enforcement at all,” Kerich said.

In the just-ended financial year when Sonko came to office, the revenue collection rose from Sh200 million to Sh458.12 million in the first two weeks of September 2017.

He attributed the increase to automation of 134 billing services and sealing of corruption loopholes.“We have sealed all corruption loopholes. All unscrupulous traders and rogue county staff who think they will survive on corruption have been put on notice,” said Sonk

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 4:56pm On Feb 04, 2019
tylann:

I don't discuss with idiots
A normal person can't say all of kenya infrastructure is foreign owned
You are a fool
More stupid than Kumamoto and the south African refugee combined
Such a major league idiot
Effects of substandard education in Nigeria
education?
I had mine in Michigan. but I know that you've never stepped out from kibera slums.
border rat
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:57pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:


this is a link to the story the ghanaian was using the image to lie that they already have a rail project

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Ghana-Burkina-Faso-agree-to-implement-railway-project-709217#

anyway i know such will not surprise you since you guys are also notorious for stealing images of other countries and passing it off as yours kazikazi can confirm this

Show me one image I ever stole from another country. Stop demonizing the Ghanaian when you're the culprits. He posted a wrong image and we politely corrected him, meanwhile you arrogantly came in and claimed it is yours.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edon21: 4:57pm On Feb 04, 2019
Just30:

se this dumb kid
that is stark reality
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:58pm On Feb 04, 2019
chrisooblog:
the ghanaian lied you mean. ibrahim's own mistake is more understandable cos we have several railway projects finished and ongoing so the image could easily be mistaken for ours

How is it understandable yet he 'corrected' the Ghanaian by claiming the image is Nigerian?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:00pm On Feb 04, 2019
tylann:

Don't mind him
We had already put that issue to rest
how please, I promise to dis-activate my account If you could prove me wrong on this grin grin
Lagos alone generates at least 5 times of what the whole of Kenya generates(reasons why Lagos economy is by far larger than Kenya economy ) cool cheesy tongue

LAGOS IGR -₦680 billion= 1,879,860,000.00 United States Dollar ($1.8 B)
KENYA IGR -Sh25.9 billion = 258,825,175.00 United States Dollar( $259 M)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:04pm On Feb 04, 2019
Just30:
check the fidelity bank app
check the ecobank Ghana app
check the barclays Ghana app
check the standard chartered bank App
check the Cal App

those are only banks app
i dont want to add third parties apps

with all of them, you can do cashless deposits
and even create a bank account.



take a loan
move money from one account to another bank account
gringringrin
Fidelity bank is a nigerian bank. grin all these cashless stuffs u're ranting about as been in existence in nigeria for over 10years, seems it's a new thing in Ghana cos in 2016, a Ghanaian friend of mine visited me n wanted to send credit card to his mother (his mum was in nigeria) I only asked of his mum number n viola..

He was shocked, he only know of mobile money in Ghana. grin

Hope u're using a fidelity bank account? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:06pm On Feb 04, 2019
NairobiWalker:


How is it understandable yet he 'corrected' the Ghanaian by claiming the image is Nigerian?
he said he searched d picture and it shows "lagos-ibadan rail line"

I don't know why that has caused trouble between u folks.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:10pm On Feb 04, 2019
theenchanter:
gringringrin
Fidelity bank is a nigerian bank. grin all these cashless stuffs u're ranting about as been in existence in nigeria for over 10years, seems it's a new thing in Ghana cos in 2016, a Ghanaian friend of mine visited me n wanted to send credit card to his mother (his mum was in nigeria) I only asked of his mum number n viola..

He was shocked, he only know of mobile money in Ghana. grin

Hope u're using a fidelity bank account? grin
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Fidelity bank owned by the likes of Mensah Otabil and co is Nigerian


funny grin grin grin grin
this spirit of entitlement hehehehe

we are talking about half the total banking asset of Nigerian running on mobile money alone in Ghana
yo can move money directly from you mobile money account into your bank account and vice versa.

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