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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Deadlytruth(m): 10:49am On Feb 02, 2019*. Modified: 11:07am On Feb 02, 2019 |
TATIME:Your own organization is the very fake one which relies science (a field of human endeavor which knowledge and findings are always being refuted and adjusted) and on error prone human accounts of history to validate the Bible written by a rather all-knowing God. The churches you call fake actually just rely on only the Bible regardless of what science or historical records say. Judge for yourself the fake on therefore. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Deadlytruth(m): 11:01am On Feb 02, 2019 |
TATIME:You can only stretch out your hand if crucified on a cross. That is what that verse means. Can you stretch out your hands if nailed to a pole? Going by the records of the history you so much rely on, Peter did not die at old age hence was never led to walk at anytime in his life. The Bible was written at a time the word 'cross' had become simply known as 'pole' in Latin language, hence the original meaning doesn't change on account of that. Romans executed criminals on crosses hence the Bible correctly records that Thomas wanted to see where the nails rather than the nail pierced through Jesus' hands. In your response above you cleverly avoided saying anything on this part of nail versus nail because it bursts your organization deceitful and falsified doctrines. The link below can open your eyes to how 'pole' came to replace 'cross' yet retaining its meaning as two beams fixed together with one at right angle to the other in Latin language spoken then by the Roman empire. https://www.bethinking.org/jehovahs-witnesses/did-christ-die-on-a-cross-or-a-stake |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:27am On Feb 02, 2019 |
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:30am On Feb 02, 2019 |
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:25pm On Feb 02, 2019*. Modified: 8:09pm On Feb 02, 2019 |
{Mark 10:13-16} People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them. Woe to you, JW scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let in those who wish to enter.. Hypocrites first seek the kingdom of God before you criticise those already entering in, be aware judgement day is standing at your door, Watch therefore and pray always that your flight won't be in winter.. Is this highlighted enough for you Describe a JW to the best of my knowledge ![]() Answer: they lie and do not practice the truth. Explain are JW's false prophets. ![]() "Yes false prophets. How do I recognise a false prophet. Easy 'look under the cults section on the net, the Watchtower is one of the main attractions, and if that isn't enough evidence for you, go out and find kingdom hall, enter into it, sit down and listen to them preach a doctrine full of dead men's bones-and all uncleanness. {Matthew 23:27} What other thing would you like to share about the JW's ![]() Jesus said: many false prophets will come in His name.. The Watchtower is a man made organisation-these are worldly partners joined together preaching man's false doctrine, these belong to the Watchtower which is recognise as a cult claiming to be the only true body of Christ-yet they do not preach the truth-but come to us with dead men's literature 'these are knowing as wolves in sheep's clothing, devouring innocent widows, strangers and Children of God, leading many away from the truth, the hole truth, and nothing but the truth,, Amen.. Barristter07: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 3:51pm On Feb 02, 2019*. Modified: 6:29pm On Feb 02, 2019 |
Barristter07:Barristter07: Good Achorladey: What is good? Barristter07: Tell your understanding of THIS CONGREGATION? Achorladey: You are asking what I have repeatedly answered on this thread and because you do not want to relinquish your EGO and PRIDE you decided to choose the option below that cannot be defended scripturally from the Bible. Barristter07 Who are your brothers? Achorladey: Who did the HEAD of the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION call brothers? A. ONLY the Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses B. WHOEVER Does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother. Mark 3:35 barristter07: Act 28:14,15 says Paul met the brothers who came from even Seemingly long distance to encourage him on his way to Rome, they KNOW him and he KNOWS THEM Achorladey: Correct. But I think he knew them as Jehovah's witnesses or Christians, which one? Barristter07: unity and uniqueness of belonging to the SAME CONGREGATION. Achorladey: What SAME CONGREGATION? A. Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses B. Christian congregation of Rome C. Christian congregation of the rest you can think of D. Christian congregation Barristter07: TELL this THREAD, WHO ARE your BROTHERS with WHOM you ASSOCIATE and CAN VOUCH to MEET and IDENTIFY ONE ANOTHER ANYWHERE? Achorladey: The answer you pick from the first multiple choice questions will decide. How well you want to relinquish that EGO and PRIDE and learn scripturally rather than INTERNALIZE SCRIPTURES to fit your Organization based mindsets. A very good example comes to mind, A JW got admitted into a known University in Lagos but was asked to get a strong recommendation letter from the head of his congregation. This got the person into a serious dilemma. He knows the attitude of JWs towards attaining higher education and fully understand that the head of his congregation will readily not write or approve such, he had to get the recommendation from the head of another religious body. The person that gave him such recommendation did so not simply because he was part of that religious body, the religious leader did it simply because he knew in one way or the other he is connected with him through Christ. If the person had acted like some JWs out there, na sorry be that guy case. Barristter07 A. Above Achorladey : Ephesians 5:23 says otherwise. Barristter07: Identified. Achorladey: You have successfully identified the congregation you belong which it's head are the GOVERNING BODY. Please do Identify the one Christ is head OVER. Barristter07: Do identify yours, Achorladey: I have done that repeatedly. Barristter07: option B Is self deceit Achorladey: Your mind is beginning to play with you bah. Prove the SELF DECEIT in option B when an individual says he is a member of the Christian Congregation. Are Jehovah's Witnesses members of the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION. Barristter07: knowing fully well 1 Cor 11:19 Achorladey: 1 Cor 11:19 For there will certainly also be SECTS among you so that those of you who are approved may also become evident. Achorladey: Is the Christian congregation of Jehovah's witnesses among the SECTS of the Christian congregation? A. Yes B. No C. Uncertain At last you corrected the scriptures you have repeatedly cited. Barristte07: be specific... Unless you can identify your brothers Achorladey: The answer you seek you have it already. Barristter07: " US " indicate they are a UNITED group Achorladey: Your US came from the account in 1 John 2:19. Despite not answering the question posed there, it will only lead to another question here, Let us know the name of the "US" or the UNITED group you tend to call it. Barristter07: Not divided, and their been part of the " US " makes then a MEMBER of the CONGREGATION walking in the truth. Achorladey:MEMBER of What Congregation? Barristter07: You can't walk in the truth, when you can't recognize the Pillar and SUPPORT OF TRUTH -Fact Achorladey: You can't walk in the TRUTH, when you Don't know WHO the TRUTH is, when you know WHO the truth IS you will readily IDENTIFY it's PILLAR and SUPPORT because you have known what the TRUTH is all about. Once you know the TRUTH, the individual don't only need to RECOGNIZE it's PILLAR and SUPPORT the individual too becomes IT'S PILLAR and SUPPORT. What you post up there is having us to BELIEVE the TRUTH in REVERSE Order. The following will help you: Oga barristter07 when you go out to preach, what do you go about preaching A. Jehovah witnesses (The PILLAR and SUPPORT of the truth) B. the TRUTH(Jesus Christ). In what order do you preach? A. Know Jehovah's witnesses(the PILLAR and SUPPORT of the TRUTH)first, then the TRUTH(Jesus Christ) come second. B. Know the TRUTH(Jesus Christ)first,then jehovah's witnesses( The PILLAR and SUPPORT of the TRUTH) come second. Barristter07: Going by 1Cor 11:19_ , where do you belong, !? WHO are your brothers ? Act 28:14,15 Achorladey: Before you read this you must have seen the response to all the scriptures cited above and the answer you crave. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 7:06pm On Feb 02, 2019 |
TATIME:FYI Watchtower Study edition September 2017, Third study article with Title... The Word of Our God Endures Forever Paragraph 13......The Bible is inspired by God. But this does not mean that the WORK of TRANSLATING the Septuagint, Wycliffe’s Bible, the King James Version, or any other version( Including the NEW WORLD TRANSLATIONS) is directly INSPIRED by God. Yet, when we examine how these TRANSLATIONS were PRODUCED, it is clear that just as Jehovah promised, his Word has endured. This strengthens our faith that everything else that Jehovah has promised will also come true.— Joshua 23:14 . TATIME: So my friend,don't just believe what was TRANSLATED instead try to find out what the REAL inspired writers penned down and the meaning of what was later passed to you as the TRANSLATION! Achorladey: Can we equally apply what you posted above to the NEW WORLD TRANSLATIONS OF THE HOLY SCRPTURES which the JWs use? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 7:19pm On Feb 02, 2019 |
TATIME:AS A REMINDER.......... Watchtower September 2017 study edition study article Article 3 paragraph 4 goes thus....... As time passes, languages change. Words and expressions may come to mean something very different from what they once did. Perhaps you can think of an example in the language you speak. This is also true of ancient languages. The Hebrew and Greek that people speak today are different from the Hebrew and Greek in which the Bible was written. Most people are not able to understand the Bible in the ancient languages it was written in, and they need a translation. Some have thought that if they learned ancient Hebrew and Greek, they could understand the Bible better. But that might not help them as much as they think. (See footnote.) We are very grateful that the Bible or parts of it have been translated into nearly 3,000 languages. It is Jehovah who wants people of “every nation and tribe and language” to benefit from his Word. (Read Revelation 14:6, footnote.) Surely, this makes us feel even closer to our God, who is loving and impartial.— Acts 10:34. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 5:50pm On Feb 04, 2019*. Modified: 6:23pm On Feb 04, 2019 |
achorladey: " I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you with song " - Hebrews 2:12 Jesus gathered his brothers in his congregation. Christ isn't scattered or divided Identify this congregation you belong , anyone can claim to be Christian , but what are their beliefs ? barristter07: Act 28:14,15 says Paul met the brothers who came from even Seemingly long distance to encourage him on his way to Rome, they KNOW him and he KNOWS THEMJehovah's witnesses are Christians. Barristter07: unity and uniqueness of belonging to the SAME CONGREGATION.A . D means all mentioned are correct . BIG LIE Regarding why " D " is a silly postulation to remain unserious, The New Encyclopedia Britannica says " From the middle of the 2nd century AD Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in ITS TERM, both for their OWN intellectual satisfaction and in order to convert educated pagans " So as at 1st century, there was one faith .... Beginning with second century and the death of the last apostle, Crisis began Even this ones are identified as Christians despite their philosophical and unscriptural thoughts. But through their teachings we know they are not . Therefore, Achorladey, What are your beliefs and teachings ? U can't just use mouth to say u belong to Christian congregation, state what are your beliefs and let's see if you don't belong to apostate Christianity or belong to those approved # Quote as A4 Barristter07: TELL this THREAD, WHO ARE your BROTHERS with WHOM you ASSOCIATE and CAN VOUCH to MEET and IDENTIFY ONE ANOTHER ANYWHERE?And you are well aware that by virtue of immortal soul philosophy, Many of these religious leaders don't believe Christ died ! Erin e n pami ...An sure those are your brothers .Barristter07 A. AboveSo Jehovah's witnesses preach Governing Body ?... Who did they preach ? Show me one single publication where it's stated that governing body is the head of the Christian congregation I belonged . # Quoted A5. I demand an answer or be shown a LIAR Barristter07: Do identify yours,B. They belong to those approved By virtue of their teachings, they follow the step laid down by Christ through his apostles. At last you corrected the scriptures you have repeatedly cited.Let it sink inside your head again: Jehovah's Witnesses are CHRISTIANS . The same Christian congregation of that time exist today , united brothers related in faith Galatians 6:10 Before a person becomes a part of this congregation they learn about God whom we worship and Christ himself. After this they became a member of Gods household , related in faith Achorladey , Tell us this brothers with whom you are [b] related in FAITH ? None ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 6:08pm On Feb 04, 2019 |
achorladey:TATIME is talking about how correct is what was translated, and that it doesn't deviate from true teaching, so u totally missed his point. For a test: At Romans 8:16 , NWT renders holy spirit as " ITself " to indicate it's not a person, some others use he etc Your view ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 6:34pm On Feb 04, 2019 |
johnw47:Fake Can never be original! Hehehehehe.. If you belief Jesus died for you, Do what I ask you to do !. To prove the bold is wrong or not, Define (A) Soul (B) Body .. Do that ! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 6:53pm On Feb 04, 2019 |
Yeeeparipa I now know why Jozzy4 Call una 419 . johnw47:His spirit . Jesus himself didn't ascend to heaven Jesus was speaking about not having bodily ascended, that happened 40 day's laterHahahahaha , 4,1,10 be lying on Jesus head.John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. I have not. I ( Jesus ) have not. He didn't say I have ascended but not bodily. Liar johnw74 John 8:44..Regarding what happened 40 days later. " Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" He never ascend until that time ! Liar ![]() lie lie barristerJesus didn't go to his Father or heaven the day he died. ;Liarrrrrrrrrrr it was Jesus in the Spirit that preached to the spirits in prisonThat happened after his ressurection . The son of man will be in the earth for 3 days and 3night. Liar Johnw74 ha ha ha, says you lie lie barrister who has been shown to be wrong all alongAll your lies has been exposed above |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 8:50pm On Feb 04, 2019*. Modified: 8:31am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Barristter07:Barristter07 : " I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you with song Hebrews 2:12 Achorladey: Nice, that's a very good thing to do and copy from our leader Barrister07: Jesus gathered his brothers in HIS CONGREGATION. Christ isn't scattered or divided. Achorladey: The only thing I need here is HIS CONGREGATION and not Christian Congregation of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES( which constitute part of those dividing Christ body except you remove the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION from your name or you refuse to be acknowledged as Christians). I hope you get the sense of it now. Barristter07: Identify this congregation you belong , anyone can claim to be Christian, but what are their beliefs ? Achorladey: I warned you previously and will repeat it again I AM NOT MAKING A CASE FOR ANYONE THAT "CLAIM" to be CHRISTIAN. Are there ALAFENUJE JWs within your RANKS or not? You want to sort out ALAFENUJE christians while you have ALAFENUJE JWs within your congregation? Are those ALAFENUJE Jws christians or NOT? Barristter07: Jehovah's witnesses are Christians. Achorladey: I thought they are PAGANS Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses before ni? Barrister07: A . Achorladey: Your response before selecting this option only proves your mind is playing with you. Is Christ's congregation anywhere stated as Jehovah's Witnesses Congregation. Is your name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES CONGREGATION. Your mind is playing tricks. Barristter07: D means all mentioned are correct . BIG LIE Achorladey: Just mention ONE CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION DENOMINATIONS all over the world that has all his teachings and doctrines 100% correct? Barristter07: Regarding why " D " is a silly postulation to remain unserious, The NEW ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITTANICA SAYS " From the middle of the 2nd century AD Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in ITS TERM, both for their OWN intellectual satisfaction and in order to convert educated pagans" Achorladey: Colossians 2:8 avoid being deceived by empty philosophies. ENCYCLOPEDIAS too do carry such philosophies? Yes/No. Except your ENCYCLOPEDIA came down from HEAVEN. Paul warning will be enough. Quoting Encyclopedia when you have the BIble. Barristter07: So as at 1st century, there was one faith .... Beginning with second century and the death of the last apostle, Crisis began Achorladey: Crisis began long before the death of the Apostles, Paul had issues with Peter you have forgotten, Acts 21: 20 - 25 (do you notice the fact that they believe PAUL was teaching APOSTASY FROM MOSES verse 21) is another flash point, Acts 15 another flash point. Hymaenus and Philetus e. t. c. 2 Tim 2: 16-18 Dey use encyclopedia prove the rightness and wrongness of Bible. Barristter07: Even this ones are identified as Christians despite their philosophical and unscriptural thoughts. But through their teachings we know they are not. Achorladey: Going by your analogy, when James and the elders told Paul to carry out those ceremonial practices to show the Jewish Christian who are LAW zealots and who already tagged apostle Paul an APOSTATE that Paul is still a LAW KEEPER. It then follows that James and the Elders are not Christians by what they direct Paul to do abi? Barristter07: Therefore, Achorladey, What are your beliefs and teachings? Achorladey: In summary John 14:6. Barristter07: U can't just use MOUTH to say u belong to Christian congregation, Achorladey: Romans 10: 9, 10 If you declare with your MOUTH, "Jesus is Lord," and BELIEVE in your HEART that God raised him from the dead, you will be SAVED. For with the heart one believes and thus has righteousness and with the mouth one confesses and thus has salvation. Oga Barristter07 am I a CHRISTIAN and am I part of the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION or not? Barristter07: state what are your beliefs Achorladey: You have the answer in summary before reading this. Barristter07: and let's see if you don't belong to apostate Christianity or belong to those approved. Achorladey: I never knew we can get approval from YOU the BARRISTTER07. It's a pity from the WHEAT and WEED illustration given by JESUS the master says otherwise. Sorry bro Mr APPROVAL of APOSTATE CHRISTIANITY and GENUINE CHRISTIANITY. Ta lo GBE ise leyin lowo? Why should I seek APPROVAL from MAN when I have the one JESUS. John 3:18 where we read: “He that exercises faith in him [Jesus] is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.” Barristter07: And you are well aware that by virtue of IMMORTAL SOUL PHILOSOPHY, Many of these religious leaders don't BELIEVE CHRIST DIED! Achorladey: I will just leave you to continuously seek their understanding well enough on all of this, this I know you have done repeatedly in numerous thread on this platform, perhaps there is a chance you are not getting there perspective well enough. One thing am CERTAIN of is many CHRISTIAN congregation DENOMINATIONS will TELL you and BELIEVE that Christ died for them and there members you (barristter07) see and hear them preach it everywhere they go. Even when you go out for your preaching activities and throw those questions directly to them: did Jesus DIED for THEM? did they respond using the IMMORTAL SOUL PHILOSOPHY to answer? So Barristter07, MA pe le ti odo, you are looking at what they believe from the IMMORTAL SOUL PHILOSOPHY while these people in there hearts and Mouth confess and accept THAT JESUS CHRIST died for them. But as for you who wants to pick out false doctrine Are you aware of this...... (w12 3/15 p. 20 par. 2 Rejoicing in Our Hope) The other sheep (those Jws classified as not going to heaven or have heavenly calling) should NEVER forget that THEIR SALVATION depends on their ACTIVE support of CHRIST'S ANOINTED “BROTHERS” still on earth. (Matt. 25:34-40) Do you understand what this means as well?....... w09 10/15 p. 15 par. 14 “You Are My Friends” One way is to obey the DIRECTION provided by the faithful and discreet slave class, which consists of Jesus’ SPIRIT- ANOINTED brothers still alive on earth. Who are these Faithful and Discreet slave class, they are THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. So, any other NON-JW CHRISTIAN on earth who puts FAITH in JESUS and OBEYS him as Lord has NO HOPE for SALVATION, because “their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed “brothers” still on earth.” Do well to ask Barristter07 how such DIRECTIONS have been over the years as it relates to the teachings of the Governing body concerning WHEAT and WEED illustration given by Jesus. Barristter07: Erin e n pami Achorladey: Pele ti e Barristter07: Am sure those are your brothers Achorladey: In what way are you related to your Governing Body? Are you SPIRIT ANOINTED BROTHERS LIKE THEM or FLESHLY BROTHERS? Make we see how well you understand your calling as A CHRISTIAN? I can equally ask, ARE those your brothers ? Barristter07: So Jehovah's witnesses preach Governing Body?... Achorladey: You only need to look Lesson 20 of the brochure "Who are doing Gods will Today", Lesson 14 of the brochure Good news from God and the numerous Watchtower study edition available. Barristter07: Who did they preach? Achorladey: Who did those lessons highlighted in those brochures preach and teach about? Barristter07: Show me one single publication where it's stated that governing body is the head of the Christian congregation I BELONGED. Achorladey: The image attached to this post gotten from a recent Watchtower study edition says it all. After looking at the picture, why is the GOVERNING BODY outside the CONGREGATION? Where is Jesus in the Earthly part? Is JESUS head of the Christian congregation only in HEAVEN? Barristter07: I demand an answer Achorladey: You have it already Barristter07: or be shown a LIAR Achorladey: I know have not seen the last of "lacking comprehension or knowing more than those that taught you", it's now LIAR oga LIE DETECTOR.
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:18pm On Feb 04, 2019*. Modified: 9:39pm On Feb 04, 2019 |
Barristter07:Did you answer the questions posed to TATIME? Barrister07: TATIME is talking about HOW CORRECT is what was translated Achorladey: Is the HOW CORRECT of WHAT was TRANSLATED inspired by GOD or NOT according to the Watchtower cited? Barristter07: At Romans 8:16 , NWT renders holy spirit as " ITself " to indicate it's not a person, some others use he etc Your view ? Achorladey: At Romans 8:16, the JWs uses this particular scripture to distinguish those having HEAVENLY HOPE and THOSE having EARTHLY HOPE? Your view? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 11:10pm On Feb 04, 2019 |
Barristter07: B. They belong to those approved Achorladey: Prove and show where your approval came from? Barristter07: By virtue of their teachings, they follow the step laid down by Christ through his apostles. Achorladey: Other Christian denominations like the Jws don't do follow steps laid down by Christ through his apostles abi? They follow that of Satan and those laid down by disciples of Satan. Barristter07: Let it sink inside your head again: Jehovah's Witnesses are CHRISTIANS. Achorladey: You are afraid of getting yourself disapproved, I thought Jehovah's Witnesses are pagans before Ni! AS if I told you in the course of our discussion so far that you are not Christians. Barristter07: The SAME CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION of that time exist today, Achorladey : why you barristter07 no call am THE SAME JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES CONGREGATION of that TIME exist today. SMH. The fact is you remain Christian Congregation OF Jehovah's witnesses and not Jehovah's Witnesses of Christian Congregation. Barristter07: united brothers related in faith Galatians 6:10 Achorladey: What is the ONE FAITH that RELATES all CHRISTIANS together? This is to ascertain if indeed you understand Galatians 6:10. Barristter07: Before a person becomes a part of this congregation they learn about God whom we worship and Christ himself. Achorladey: If I had lack reasoning skills and comprehension WA ti ko RUBBISH si mi Lori. So you now agree that the knowledge about the Truth first and not the knowledge about Jws First. Barristter07: AFTER THIS they became a member of Gods household , related in faith Achorladey: No they need to know Who JWS(pillar and support of truth) first. For the record, IT is After knowing the TRUTH, not the ones peddle about as PRESENT, PAST or FUTURE TRUTH by the JWs but the TRUTH as it revolves around JESUS the TRUTH because bearing witness ABOUT the TRUTH is WHAT inspires PROPHECY. Such individuals become pillars and support of the truth. Barristter07: Achorladey , Tell us this brothers with whom you are related in FAITH? Achorladey: Who did Jesus call his brothers and sisters and mothers? Why will you not keep asking when you decided to not to even attempt the question at the beginning of the post you responded to. Barristter07: None ? Achorladey: It really shows how your mind is playing with you. You are willing to answer your question by yourself. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:20pm On Feb 04, 2019*. Modified: 3:47am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Barristter07:fake jw's can never be the original pharisees is that what you mean? Barristter07: If you belief Jesus died for you, Do what I ask you to do !.lie lie barristter it's very easy to define soul and body from the internet if i didn't know the meaning myself but you know i don't do assignments for false jw's-satans mob however i will repeat: "you believe a persons dead body doesn't mean the person died", laughing |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:27am On Feb 05, 2019*. Modified: 3:52am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Barristter07:lie lie barrister tormented lie lie, as you will see by this post, you know nothing Barristter07: His spirit . Jesus himself didn't ascend to heavenha ha duh, Jesus Spirit, the Word of God certinally did go to His Father His flesh body remained dead in the tomb for 3 days, oh duh duh Barristter07: Hahahahaha , 4,1,10ha ha ha, quadruple duh, see the tormented laughing accusing fool of course Jesus Spirit the Word of God went to His Father when His body died Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. commend παρατίθημι paratithēmi par-at-ith'-ay-mee to place alongside, that is, present -set before. Jesus flesh body remained in the tomb for three days after which time Jesus Spirit the Word of God returned to it Jesus the Word of God also went and talked to the spirits in prison while his body was in the tomb 1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; when Jesus said to mary don't touch me for i have not ascended to the Father of course like i said Jesus was talking about not having bodily ascended to His Father which happens 40 days later, and we know that He Jesus the Word of God did ascend to His Father in the Spirit, and that's what the person of the Word of God is, A Spirit if you want more scriptures for any of this just ask otherwise i won't waste the time on such a know nothing nonbeliever Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. truly Jesus died: 1Co_15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; truly Jesus spirit went to His Father, and then Jesus went in the spirit and preached to the spirits in prison: Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. 1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:39am On Feb 05, 2019*. Modified: 3:56am On Feb 05, 2019 |
Barristter07:tormented false accuser, know nothing, hysterical, lie lie barrister Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 12:26pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
johnw47:Define it first! Barrister cannot beat you Now ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 12:26pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 12:27pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 12:38pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
achorladey:You are talking nonsense , Where did Jesus or his apostle teach satanic doctrines like hellfire, Trinity, immortal soul etc that these denominations all preach ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:58pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:false jw cap You think you are onto something don't you make yourself clear if possible, and I will show you that you are still a duh |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Deadlytruth(m): 1:55pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:You would not know because you read a Bible from which such parts have been expunged in order to suit your preconceived doctrine. For example the rich man cried from hell and complained that the heat was to much for him to bear. Luke 16:24....So he called out, 'Father Abraham! Take pity on me, and send Lazarus to dip his finger in some water and cool off my tongue, because I am in great pain in this fire!' |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 2:21pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:They're all on the road to life even when they keep contradicting one another IJN! ![]()
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Deadlytruth(m): 2:27pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
TATIME:They are contradicting one another on their personal opinions and not on their interpretations of the Bible unlike your organization which contradicts itself in its own interpretations of the Bible. See the difference now? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 3:57pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:You want to quickly change topic. Read the discussion before talking trash. Someone is saying the bible says mentions only christian congregation and you are here talking about having satanic doctrines like hellfire, trinity immortal soul etc that others preach. Is it that you want to justify your claim as saying the Christian congregation of jehovah witnesses was mentioned in the Bible? See how you guys will just assume and speculate. So your assumptions is that Jesus Christ or his apostles didn't preach about satanic doctrines like hellfire, trinity immortal soul etc jehovah witnesses today don't preach about these things therefore the Christian congregation of jehovah witnesses are the only true congregation today? Or what message are you even trying to pass with this your statement? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:15pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
johnw47:Broz respond and define what U are asked |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:17pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
Deadlytruth:. Trash , I will address your hell post soon |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:18pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 4:24pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
Deadlytruth:Called out from " Hades". Is Hades not Grave (Revelation 20:13) ?.. That should tell you it's not a real description |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 4:31pm On Feb 05, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:Address your jehovah coming to slaughter people who refused to pay allegiance to a publishing company called watchtower organization and unquestionably obey the 8 old imperfect, uninspired, fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction first. I will address your belief and doctrine of joining watchtower organization as the only guarantee to salvation I will also address the fact that you dream of your jehovah coming to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man. I will also address the fact that you teach that the 8 old imperfect uninspired and fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction are the only means of communication between God and man today. I will also address the fact that you teach that Jesus Christ is mediator for only the anointed 144000 while the anointed 144000 are mediators for the remaining 7.8million jws worldwide. I will also address the fact that your leaders teach you that there are two hopes. Heavenly hope and earthly hope. The teach that the door to heaven closed in 1935 while it reopened for the governing body in 1995. I will also address your overlapping generation teaching. |
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