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You have a long way to go, if you are yet to recognize that Hades and Gehenna are two different things

Deadlytruth:
At least, with your incinerator example citation, have now shifted ground from "hell has nothing to do with fire but grave" to accept that hell means fire only that it would not burn forever. You are gradually accepting the truth.

Shift wetin ?

Don't chat meaninglessly, You quoted Rich man and Lazarus after which Captivator exposed your folly by pointing out that the man Is in Hades ( Grave ).


In your running in circles, You later quote Mark where " Gehenna " appeared NOT Hades .

So am actually explaining TWO different words to you , none of which support your satanic hell . But you can't understand because you have been FOOLED since both are rendered Hell despite they are Different .

But then an incinerator fire goes out once all the refuse is burnt. However, Jesus said the fire of hell will never go out.... meaning those to be punished in it will not be consumed but tormented by it.

Jesus talked about Gehenna NOT hell.

Gehenna ( Valley of Hinnom) a visible place outside Jerusalem , No torment is carried out there ( Jer 7:31) , it image total destruction of the wicked. Just as refuse thrown there don't burn forever.

Go study Gehenna, nd stop embarrassing yourself here

A foreshadowing of the possibility occurred before Moses in Mount Horeb where he saw a bush on fire without getting consumed.

You are creating more problems for yourself.

Exodus 3:2 - it was an angel that appeared IN THAT FIRE unharmed . Showing clearly that Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Fact ! Another blow to your useless doctrine

Spirits in Mark screamed and felt torture from Jesus.

Jesus carry fire for hand ? Go and read what you quote at Exodus 3:2, Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Souls in Revelations spoke in heaven in demand for justice because they could still feel injustice done to them while they were on earth. That says it all.

Even death ride a horse and grave following it ...nd stars as big as they are than earth still fell on earth . How real Is that to you !??

The bolded is very much the issue. God is all powerful. He doesn't have to always conform to nature to prove Himself otherwise he will no longer be God.

Bible says a spirit does not have flesh . .


But the rich man has tongue ( Flesh ) , is that a spirit ?

Unless you mean bible Is wrong, so you can be right

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmm Paul and Barnabas surely disagreed but THEY WEREN'T TEACHING DIFFERENT OPINIONS! Ephesians 4:1-6
Noticed that Paul said ONENESS in thoughts!
None of them dare say something connotes "lack of respect for God" and such should be taken as mere personal opinion!
As for the ZOMBIES, Fela anikulapo Kuti referred to those who sticks to the last order given by their superior officers as ZOMBIES. Therefore whether they carry weapons during operations or harmlessly going about doing as they're told, they're truly zombies!
It's like Apostle John mentioned the names of Christians who refused to be like ZOMBIES in following all that the Apostles taught! 3John 9,10

Oneness in what? Zombie that beliefs ever changing man made opinions should be forced down people's throats.

Where did the bible say we must use bible app on tab or phone or we must use bible made of paper? Zombie abi robot which one should I call you.
Let me help you out

Jesus said the only way to exhibit oneness in using scriptures written in scrolls only. Zombie

Barristter07:
You have a long way to go, if you are yet to recognize that Hades and Gehenna are two different things




Shift wetin ?

Don't chat meaninglessly, You quoted Rich man and Lazarus after which Captivator exposed your folly by pointing out that the man Is in Hades ( Grave ).


In your running in circles, You later quote Mark where " Gehenna " appeared NOT Hades .

So am actually explaining TWO different words to you , none of which support your satanic hell . But you can't understand because you have been FOOLED since both are rendered Hell despite they are Different .



Jesus talked about Gehenna NOT hell.

Gehenna ( Valley of Hinnom) a visible place outside Jerusalem , No torment is carried out there ( Jer 7:31) , it image total destruction of the wicked. Just as refuse thrown there don't burn forever.

Go study Gehenna, nd stop embarrassing yourself here



You are creating more problems for yourself.

Exodus 3:2 - it was an angel that appeared IN THAT FIRE unharmed . Showing clearly that Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Fact ! Another blow to your useless doctrine



Jesus carry fire for hand ? Go and read what you quote at Exodus 3:2, Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .



Even death ride a horse and grave following it ...nd stars as big as they are than earth still fell on earth . How real Is that to you !??



Bible says a spirit does not have flesh . .


But the rich man has tongue ( Flesh ) , is that a spirit ?

Unless you mean bible Is wrong, so you can be right

Bible says spirit doesn't have flesh? Shame no let you quote bible verse.

Spirit doesn't have flesh yet your jehovah has hands and is a spirit.

Now is to call bible upandan what about encyclopedia? Zombie.

Barristter07:
You have a long way to go, if you are yet to recognize that Hades and Gehenna are two different things




Shift wetin ?

Don't chat meaninglessly, You quoted Rich man and Lazarus after which Captivator exposed your folly by pointing out that the man Is in Hades ( Grave ).


In your running in circles, You later quote Mark where " Gehenna " appeared NOT Hades .

So am actually explaining TWO different words to you , none of which support your satanic hell . But you can't understand because you have been FOOLED since both are rendered Hell despite they are Different .



Jesus talked about Gehenna NOT hell.

Gehenna ( Valley of Hinnom) a visible place outside Jerusalem , No torment is carried out there ( Jer 7:31) , it image total destruction of the wicked. Just as refuse thrown there don't burn forever.

Go study Gehenna, nd stop embarrassing yourself here



You are creating more problems for yourself.

Exodus 3:2 - it was an angel that appeared IN THAT FIRE unharmed . Showing clearly that Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Fact ! Another blow to your useless doctrine



Jesus carry fire for hand ? Go and read what you quote at Exodus 3:2, Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .



Even death ride a horse and grave following it ...nd stars as big as they are than earth still fell on earth . How real Is that to you !??



Bible says a spirit does not have flesh . .


But the rich man has tongue ( Flesh ) , is that a spirit ?

Unless you mean bible Is wrong, so you can be right

It is you who have a long way to go as you have not been able to show any Bible passage to substantiate your argument that hell is not fire. I have shown you several citations where Jesus mentioned hell and went ahead to specifically describe it as fire that never goes out. I also showed you where Jesus mentioned fire in a parable and in His literal interpretation of the parable he mentioned fire again rather than Hades or Gehenna. Neither you nor captivator has been able to address that parable and its interpretation till now. Your abusive language already gives you away as lacking in superior argument. You know the Pharisees whom you are the modern day version of always resorted to abusing Jesus each time he burst their heretic and man made opinions.

Captivator picked a Revelations verse in isolation to prove his doctrine. But I exposed his heretic use of that verse by pointing him back to the entire passage which rather explains that after being called from their graves both on land and in the sea, the evil ones were thrown into a lake of fire. Then I asked him how possible they were again thrown back into the soil and seas after judgement if the lake of fire means the very graves from which they were called? He ran away till now. So he rather exposed the folly of himself and yourself.

It is getting clearer that you don't really study the Bible with your own independent mind but with the mindset imposed on your by a publishing company. Exodus 3:2 says:
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him as a flame coming from the middle of a bush. Moses saw that the bush was on fire but that it was not burning up.

The angel itself was the flame that was burning the bush and not that the flame was burning the angel. So your argument that the angel was a spirit whom the flame couldn't burn is bunkum. Read the bolded again. It was the bush that verse spoke of as not being burnt despite a fire was around it.

But you believed that the 144,000 men were real despite they are from the same seal as those which showed the stars you believe are figurative? This is an irony of yours which you have failed to address despite it being repeatedly pointed out.

And till now you have still not been able to show me where the Bible specifically says that spirits can neither speak nor feel pains. I have shown the verses that prove otherwise.

And the biggest irony about all these your watery and unscriptural doctrines is that much as you are so passionate in their defense to the extent of using abusive language, you are sure to abandon them in future once those 8 men tell you they were wrong about all your are saying now, and then give you an altogether new interpretations to those verses you are quoting. Then you begin to defend it with insults again.
See your lives?

Barristter07:
You have a long way to go, if you are yet to recognize that Hades and Gehenna are two different things




Shift wetin ?

Don't chat meaninglessly, You quoted Rich man and Lazarus after which Captivator exposed your folly by pointing out that the man Is in Hades ( Grave ).


In your running in circles, You later quote Mark where " Gehenna " appeared NOT Hades .

So am actually explaining TWO different words to you , none of which support your satanic hell . But you can't understand because you have been FOOLED since both are rendered Hell despite they are Different .



Jesus talked about Gehenna NOT hell.

Gehenna ( Valley of Hinnom) a visible place outside Jerusalem , No torment is carried out there ( Jer 7:31) , it image total destruction of the wicked. Just as refuse thrown there don't burn forever.

Go study Gehenna, nd stop embarrassing yourself here



You are creating more problems for yourself.

Exodus 3:2 - it was an angel that appeared IN THAT FIRE unharmed . Showing clearly that Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Fact ! Another blow to your useless doctrine



Jesus carry fire for hand ? Go and read what you quote at Exodus 3:2, Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .



Even death ride a horse and grave following it ...nd stars as big as they are than earth still fell on earth . How real Is that to you !??



Bible says a spirit does not have flesh . .


But the rich man has tongue ( Flesh ) , is that a spirit ?

Unless you mean bible Is wrong, so you can be right

See somebody that says his doctrines are not useless

1. His leaders told him that Jesus Christ came invisibly in 1914 and looked around and chose them as the one true religion. Nobody saw Jesus Christ o.

2. His leaders told him not to address himself as child of God or brother of jesus because is only 144000 people including them that are called such.

3. His leaders told him jesus Christ is not his mediator as jesus Christ is mediator for only 144000 which they joined in 1995.

4. His leaders told him that he can't go to heaven because the door closed in 1935 and only 144000 will be allowed.

5 his leaders told him that door to heaven opened only for the leaders and he still cannot go to heaven.

6. His leaders told him that they (the leaders) are the only channel of communication between God and man today.

All these things they told him and told him that he must believe them if not his family and friends will shun him.
Zombie

Deadlytruth:
It is you who have a long way to go as you have not been able to show any Bible passage to substantiate your argument that hell is not fire. I have shown you several citations where Jesus mentioned hell and went ahead to specifically describe it as fire that never goes out. I also showed you where Jesus mentioned fire in a parable and in His literal interpretation of the parable he mentioned fire again rather than Hades or Gehenna. Neither you nor captivator has been able to address that parable and its interpretation till now. Your abusive language already gives you away as lacking in superior argument. You know the Pharisees whom you are the modern day version of always resorted to abusing Jesus each time he burst their heretic and man made opinions.

Captivator picked a Revelations verse in isolation to prove his doctrine. But I exposed his heretic use of that verse by pointing him back to the entire passage which rather explains that after being called from their graves both on land and in the sea, the evil ones were thrown into a lake of fire. Then I asked him how possible they were again thrown back into the soil and seas after judgement if the lake of fire means the very graves from which they were called? He ran away till now. So he rather exposed the folly of himself and yourself.

It is getting clearer that you don't really study the Bible with your own independent mind but with the mindset imposed on your by a publishing company. Exodus 3:2 says:
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him as a flame coming from the middle of a bush. Moses saw that the bush was on fire but that it was not burning up.

The angel itself was the flame that was burning the bush and not that the flame was burning the angel. So your argument that the angel was a spirit whom the flame couldn't burn is bunkum. Read the bolded again. It was the bush that verse spoke of as not being burnt despite a fire was around it.

But you believed that the 144,000 men were real despite they are from the same seal as those which showed the stars you believe are figurative? This is an irony of yours which you have failed to address despite it being repeatedly pointed out.

And till now you have still not been able to show me where the Bible specifically says that spirits can neither speak nor feel pains. I have shown the verses that prove otherwise.

And the biggest irony about all these your watery and unscriptural doctrines is that much as you are so passionate in their defense to the extent of using abusive language, you are sure to abandon them in future once those 8 men tell you they were wrong about all your are saying now, and then give you an altogether new interpretations to those verses you are quoting. Then you begin to defend it with insults again.
See your lives?

Don't mind him. He feels he alone has the right to jesus mind. He even went ahead to tell you that Jesus could not have meant literal burning in fire.

Barristter07:
You have a long way to go, if you are yet to recognize that Hades and Gehenna are two different things




Shift wetin ?

Don't chat meaninglessly, You quoted Rich man and Lazarus after which Captivator exposed your folly by pointing out that the man Is in Hades ( Grave ).


In your running in circles, You later quote Mark where " Gehenna " appeared NOT Hades .

So am actually explaining TWO different words to you , none of which support your satanic hell . But you can't understand because you have been FOOLED since both are rendered Hell despite they are Different .



Jesus talked about Gehenna NOT hell.

Gehenna ( Valley of Hinnom) a visible place outside Jerusalem , No torment is carried out there ( Jer 7:31) , it image total destruction of the wicked. Just as refuse thrown there don't burn forever.

Go study Gehenna, nd stop embarrassing yourself here



You are creating more problems for yourself.

Exodus 3:2 - it was an angel that appeared IN THAT FIRE unharmed . Showing clearly that Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Fact ! Another blow to your useless doctrine



Jesus carry fire for hand ? Go and read what you quote at Exodus 3:2, Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .



Even death ride a horse and grave following it ...nd stars as big as they are than earth still fell on earth . How real Is that to you !??



Bible says a spirit does not have flesh . .


But the rich man has tongue ( Flesh ) , is that a spirit ?

Unless you mean bible Is wrong, so you can be right

You cannot even bring out a Bible verse and you are telling us unless the bible is wrong. Zombie

God has to be flesh since he has hands. I know you will tell us they are not literal hands or you will soon say God talking is not the literal talking.

You will just be lying about the bible up and down.
You are supposed to hide your head in shame.

Hairyrapunzel:
Don't mind him. He feels he alone has the right to jesus mind. He even went ahead to tell you that Jesus could not have meant literal burning in fire.

I have shown him the parable of the tares and wheat for which Jesus' disciples asked Him for literal interpretation, and which Jesus obliged to by telling them that the fire in the parable is fire in real life. But he has cleverly been avoiding this poser like a plague. He doesn't want to touch it at all since it runs against his publishing company's narrative. Talk of victims of broad daylight manipulation.

Deadlytruth:
I have shown him the parable of the tares and wheat for which Jesus' disciples asked Him for literal interpretation, and which Jesus obliged to by telling them that the fire in the parable is fire in real life. But he has cleverly been avoiding this poser like a plague. He doesn't want to touch it at all since it runs against his publishing company's narrative. Talk of victims of broad daylight manipulation.

As his magazine has told him that jesus could not have meant literal burning in fire what can we do?
Nothing because they have been programmed to regard only what their magazines say and also to disregard what the bible says.

The funny thing is that the writers of those their magazines have taken the place of God. If it's a Bible verse that goes against what they teach they say that Bible verse must have been taken figuratively while if it's a Bible verse that supports their doctrines they say it was taken literally.

They love Cherry picking. I dey look barrister07 they laff. He is actually afraid of me. Lol

Barristter07:
You have a long way to go, if you are yet to recognize that Hades and Gehenna are two different things




Shift wetin ?

Don't chat meaninglessly, You quoted Rich man and Lazarus after which Captivator exposed your folly by pointing out that the man Is in Hades ( Grave ).


In your running in circles, You later quote Mark where " Gehenna " appeared NOT Hades .

So am actually explaining TWO different words to you , none of which support your satanic hell . But you can't understand because you have been FOOLED since both are rendered Hell despite they are Different .



Jesus talked about Gehenna NOT hell.

Gehenna ( Valley of Hinnom) a visible place outside Jerusalem , No torment is carried out there ( Jer 7:31) , it image total destruction of the wicked. Just as refuse thrown there don't burn forever.

Go study Gehenna, nd stop embarrassing yourself here



You are creating more problems for yourself.

Exodus 3:2 - it was an angel that appeared IN THAT FIRE unharmed . Showing clearly that Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .

Fact ! Another blow to your useless doctrine



Jesus carry fire for hand ? Go and read what you quote at Exodus 3:2, Spirit beings cannot be harmed by fire .



Even death ride a horse and grave following it ...nd stars as big as they are than earth still fell on earth . How real Is that to you !??



Bible says a spirit does not have flesh . .


But the rich man has tongue ( Flesh ) , is that a spirit ?

Unless you mean bible Is wrong, so you can be right

Exodus 3:1-3
3 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”


THE BUSH DID NOT BURN UP. SO THE BUSH MUST HAVE BEEN A SPIRIT. I AM JUST THINKING LIKE YOU.

YOU NEED TO JUST HIDE YOUR HEAD IN SHAME.

Hairyrapunzel:
As his magazine has told him that jesus could not have meant literal burning in fire what can we do?
Nothing because they have been programmed to regard only what their magazines say and also to disregard what the bible says.

The funny thing is that the writers of those their magazines have taken the place of God. If it's a Bible verse that goes against what they teach they say that Bible verse must have been taken figuratively while if it's a Bible verse that supports their doctrines they say it was taken literally.

They love Cherry picking. I dey look barrister07 they laff. He is actually afraid of me. Lol

Their matter just tire person.
And what surprises me about them is that if those 8 men in charge of their publishing company just wake up tomorrow and tell them that they've just studied the scriptures more deeply and discovered that hell is really fire, they will just make a very sharp u-turn and start defending it sheepishly again even with insults directed at whoever may not agree with them by that time.
If those eight men later again say they studied the Bible deeply once more and discovered again that hell is not fire but grave, they will still turn around and start spreading it as the true doctrine. They will never ask those eight men why they are so inconsistent and unstable.
Brainwashed lots!

Deadlytruth:
Their matter just tire person.
And what surprises me about them is that if those 8 men in charge of their publishing company just wake up tomorrow and tell them that they've just studied the scriptures more deeply and discovered that hell is really fire, they will just make a very sharp u-turn and start defending it sheepishly again even with insults directed at whoever may not agree with them by that time.
If those eight men later again say they studied the Bible deeply once more and discovered again that hell is not fire but grave, they will still turn around and start spreading it as the true doctrine. They will never ask those eight men why they are so inconsistent and unstable.
Brainwashed lots!

Na so na. The 8 old imperfect uninspired and fallible men told their followers that if the followers do not unquestionably obey them, then jehovah will slaughter them in Armageddon.
They have been programmed to only obey these old men. It's just cult brainwashing tactics.
Always go to your Bible to proof read all the bible verses he lists out please. They love lying about the bible.

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Barristter07:
His congregation isnt scattered by different teachings. Those first century Christians have to abandon wrong teaching and teaching held before becoming Christian which are unscriptural

United faith, faith is a belief. One faith.

His congregation also have those taking the lead as the scripture shows, who are those taking the lead among you ?



Y'all are the same, until you explain your identity and those taking the lead among you

Then point out those who take the lead among you
Am waiting



One fact is: there are no conflicting teachings among this Christians, even in the first century some lived sinful lifestyle BUT THAT’S DIFFERENT FROM CONFLICTING WAVES OF TEACHING.

THOSE taking the lead are there to avoid division in teaching, Ephesians 4;12 “with a view to readjustment”

Who are those taking that role among you ? - Heb 13:17

See your life.



Am not playing tricks , am identifying those united in teaching not those with various ideas and teachings claiming the Christian umbrella.



Jehovahs witnesses, united in teaching, those taking the lead ensure readjustment when possible – Ephesians 4;12

Who are those taking this role among you?




Confirm ignorant fellow , encyclopedia touch a wide range of subject. One of which is religion, what it says and which I quote cannot be disputed. That’s the point

Those fellows that started that apostasy using philosophy also call themselves chrstians but you are here quoting colosian 2;8, I thought it doesn’t matter what they belive or teach ? They sha know Jesus and belive him ?

Can you see you have shot yourself in the foot. Will keep this as reference.



Its not issue, its called READJUSTMENT.

The law made by the governing body is directed at gentiles, so its understandable why jewish Christians still feel they can continue their circumcision. As time goes by those matters were resolved through letters by those taking the lead.

Archolardey, who dey take the lead among your group of Christian?



As at the time issue of circumcision hasn’t been addressed as concerning jews BUT gentiles alone. Read your bible, so james and the elders know what they are saying so as not to cause division, its still a matter of time before those matters are addressed properly



Even those you quote colosians 2;8 for also belived all as Christian which they call themselves this yet you agree they have deviated by quoting scripture for them . Mr , state your teachings properly .

Don’t forget I still have that as reference.



Summary ?

someone can tell they belive all that like you are doing and still yet have deviated, no wonder you also quickly quote colosian 2;8 for such ones. So YOUR ANSWER LACK SUBSTANCE, A POOR ATTEMPT BY A SO CALLED CHRISTIAN.



The bible says expose those who contradict.

Funny the above is coming from someone who can quote colosians 2;8 for other people because of their teaching, who are you to approve or condemn their philosophical teaching.?



Why do you now judge those Christian philosophers when their belief in Jesus is all they need ?
See the life of an hypocrite



You can explain their perspective to me now . WHY NOT DO THAT ,



By mouth they say so, by heart they don’t believe so. Note the difference

Even those you are quoting colosians 2;8 for will answer yes if you ask them if they believe Jesus . yet you quote scripture on their matter showing mouth isn’t enough . does their teaching reveal this that they say with their mouth?



They are only repeating what Jesus said at Matt 25;34-40 , another reference point; who are you to approve or disapprove what they have said ? so far they belive john 14:6 and confess Jesus is the Lord, does it matter how they explain matthew 25; 34-40 ?

You are not smart

Ephesians 4;12 READJUSTMENT is one of the work of those taking the lead .
This humility is what sincere ones cherish in them , unlike your scattered entities that are tossed around with conflicting teachings . identify those who take the role of readjustment among you?



Jehovah’s witnesses do not preach governing body.

None of this proved your earlier lie that they are THE HEAD of this Christian congregation.

I can show you countless publications where Jesus is recognized as the head.

Liaaaarrrrrrrr



LIARRRRR

From the same lesson 20 of who are doing Gods will today we read:

“ It is responsive to the direction of God’s spirit. The Governing Body looks to the Universal Sovereign, Jehovah, and to the Head of the congregation, Jesus, for guidance. (1 Corinthians 11:3; Ephesians 5:23) Its members do not regard themselves as the leaders of God’s people. “

Liars don’t have a life. See them acknowledging Jesus as the HEAD . silly liar

Barristter07: HIS CONGREGATION isnt scattered by different teachings.

Achorladey: HIS CONGREGATION means the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION not the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. It is a pity, not only have I showed you how internally within your denomination you have different teaching over the years that not only contradict what the Bible says, it is also different from other Christian denominations.

So do the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES also contribute to the scattered TEACHING present in the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION .


Barristter07: Those FIRST CENTURY CHRISTIANS have to abandon WRONG TEACHING and teaching HELD before becoming Christian which are unscriptural.

Achorladey: Acts 21: 20 shows not only that the Jews became CHRISTIAN they are more ZEALOUS for the LAW and CUSTOMARY practices.
Even calling Paul an Apostate?

Barristter07 United faith, faith is a belief. One faith.

Achorladey: Hahahahahahahahaha. What is the ONE FAITH? Response to what that ONE FAITH is, IS out large.

Barristter07: His congregation also have those taking the lead as the scripture shows, who are those taking the lead among you?

Achorladey: Responded to this question as well.

Barristter07: Y'all are the same, until you explain your identity and those taking the lead among you.

Achorladey: What else is there to explain again? You packed everything as a case of me being a DRIBBLER. Another adjective added to those available.

Barristter07: Then point out those who take the lead among you.

Achorladey: Oga I don respond.

Barristter07: Am waiting

Achorladey: Waiting for what?

Barristter07: One fact is: there are no conflicting teachings among this Christians, even in the first century some lived sinful lifestyle BUT THAT’S DIFFERENT FROM CONFLICTING WAVES OF TEACHING.

Achorladey: Who were Hymaenaeus and Philetus? A. Christians B. Pagans, C. Jehovah's Witnesses.

When Paul warned Timothy about those TWO what were they doing as CHRISTIANS?

In the book of Revelations 2 what TEACHINGS WERE FOUND in PERGAMUM? were those in perganum PAGANS or Jehovah's Witneses?

Is CONFLICTING WAVES OF TEACHING PRESENT OR NOT under the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION?


Barristter07: THOSE taking the lead are there to avoid division in teaching,

Achorladey: Looking at this statement of yours in line with what happen to Peter in the account of Galatians, Your analogy of those taking the LEAD does not look like one that is promoting UNITY but rather DIVISION.

Barristter07: THOSE taking the lead are there to avoid division in teaching Ephesians 4:12 “with a view to readjustment”

Achorladey: Where in Ephesians 4:12 states clearly that it is only THOSE "taking the lead" that was giving those GIFTS given with a review to READJUSTMENT?

Barristter07: Who are those taking that role among you? Heb 13:17

Achorladey: I know in Hebrew 13:17 there are long list of names written in the following verses? Please list them out. You said you are waiting, KEEP WAITING

Barristter07: See your life.

Achorladey: I do see my life. What about you?

Barristter07: Am not playing tricks , am identifying those united in teaching not those with VARIOUS IDEAS and TEACHINGS CLAIMING the Christian umbrella.

Achorladey: If you had no single VARIOUS IDEAS and TEACHING in all of the TEACHINGS of Jehovah's Witnesses that do not only conflict the Bible and also conflict other Christian denominations. Bring it here!


Barristter07: Jehovahs witnesses, united in teaching, those TAKING the LEAD ensure readjustment when possible – Ephesians 4;12

Achorladey: Your Ephesians addressed. I might need to take a CENSUS on this term now( TAKING THE LEAD)

Barristter07: Who are those taking this role among you?

Achorladey: Not again!!!!

Barristter07: Confirm ignorant fellow , encyclopedia touch a wide range of subject. One of which is religion, what it says and which I quote cannot be disputed.

Achorladey: From DRIBBLER to CONFIRM IGNORANT fellow, gbogbo adjective enu e ni ma mo se. Obviously ENCYCLOPEDIA has God's inspiration sorry my bad for not believing you. Coming from someone that 1 Timothy 3:16,17 is frequently cited and quoted in their publications. That I choose to believe that the inspired book the Bible is enough to get me equipped for every good work is BAD now. I need ENCYCLOPEDIAS to stamp it AUTHENTICITY.


Barristter07: That’s the point

Achorladey: What point?

Barristter07:Those fellows that started that apostasy using philosophy also call themselves chrstians but you are here quoting colosian 2;8,

Achorladey: I cited Colossians 2:8 to prove to you that before your ENCYCLOPEDIA made mention of your PAGANS using cunning philosophy to preach Christianity. Paul gave warning concerning that.

Barristter07: I thought it doesn’t matter what they believe or teach?

Achorladey: While your governing body were enjoying and judging fellow Christians on Jesus SEAT.

Does what they thought you or had you believe matter?

Barristter07: They sha know Jesus and believe him?

Achorladey: Dey sha know Jesus and believe him? Now you see your analogy thrown back at you.

Barristter07: Can you see you have shot yourself in the foot.

Achorladey: Shot yourself in the foot ko, shot your self in the hand lo ma ri.

Barristter07: Will keep this as reference.

Achorladey: Inscribe it on marble and get my name affixed to it

Barristter07:
Its not issue, its called READJUSTMENT.

Achorladey:Its not an Issue yet it led to dissention and numerous argument and trouble. Acts 15. Who are they READJUSTING? why are they readjusting since its no issue?

Barristter07:The law made by the governing body is directed at gentiles,

Achorladey: THE LAW MADE, no wonder you call them Governing Body.

Barristter07: so its understandable why jewish Christians still feel they can continue their circumcision.

Achorladey: No wonder Peter was pretending in that account in Galatians and Paul turned a BLIND EYE when he saw the PRETENSE because it WAS UNDERSTANDABLE.

Barristter07: As time goes by those matters were resolved through letters by those taking the lead.

Achorladey: The time was long enough to even HELP Peter pretend and allow others to join the pretense hmmmmm!!! Correct. That Watchtower October 2018 won't go away yet. You don go quickly tap from there.

Barristter07: Acholardey, who dey take the lead among your group of Christian?

Achorladey: Another one joined to the running statistics

Barristter07: As at the time issue of circumcision hasn’t been addressed as concerning jews BUT gentiles alone. Read your bible, so james and the elders know what they are saying so as not to cause division, its still a matter of time before those matters are addressed properly

Achorladey: Indeed that is why Peter one of the "" GOVERNING BODY"" hhahahahaha has free window to pretend. Peter don't know then that Christ now the TUTOR LEADING us not the LAW and had used a VISION to address the issue. Gbam for that your understanding.

Acts 10 still dey your Bible go read. After you read am finish, come back and tell us DID JESUS ADDRESS the CIRCUMCISION palaver or NOT what about those CIRCUMCISED BELIEVER who accompanied PETER? Did they understand or not?

Who was Peter addressing in Acts 11. The Gentiles or the the JEWS. How did they feel after Peter narration of events in Cornelius house?

Oga barristter07 you will eventually make believe the Bible in Reverse order
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Barristter07: Even those you quote colosians 2;8 for also believed all as Christian which they call themselves this yet you agree they have deviated by quoting scripture for them. Mr state your teachings properly.

Achorladey: Did you believe that book of Romans or Not? Is it a proper teaching or NOT?

Barristter07: Don’t forget I still have that as reference.

Achorladey: Its your personal belonging. Keep it very well

Barristter07: Summary?
someone can tell they believe all that like you are doing and still yet have deviated, no wonder you also quickly quote colosian 2;8 for such ones. So YOUR ANSWER LACK SUBSTANCE, A POOR ATTEMPT BY A SO CALLED CHRISTIAN.

Achorladey: I will ask once again, do you believe that Romans account cited?

Barristter07: The bible says expose those who contradict.

Achorladey: Is that so, Oya bring out the the verse so that we have a nice foundation to expose those who contradict?

Barristter07 : Funny the above is coming from someone who can quote colosians 2;8 for other people because of their teaching, who are you to approve or condemn their philosophical teaching?

Achorladey: who started this approval palaver?

Barristter07: Why do you now judge those Christian philosophers when their belief in Jesus is all they need?

Achorladey: Who bring christian philosopher into the discussion, where in particular did I judge them.

Barristter07: See the life of an hypocrite

Achorladey: old adjectives, give me another one.

Barristter07: You can explain their perspective to me now. WHY NOT DO THAT.

Achorladey: So you still need there perspective when you tagged it SATANIC teachings. Can you believe the word and explanation of an individual that you tagged LACKS COMPREHENSION, KNOW MORE THAN HIS TEACHERS, A DRIBBLER, LIAR, STRONG HYPOCRITE? Please do well to answer.

Barristter07: By mouth they say so, by heart they don’t believe so. Note the difference

Achorladey: Barristter07 the HEART READER, hahahahahahahaha, you will come and say I judge them.

I gave you a straight scripture, you are telling me the difference, but you have forgotten FROM THE ABUNDANCE OF THE HEART THE MOUTH SPEAK. shiooooooooooooooooor. It is from the ABUNDANCE of their HEART they declare JESUS IS LORD with THEIR MOUTH and this will get them SALVATION. Oga Barristter07 you see am?

S WITNESSES also contribute to the scattered TEACHING present in the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION .


Barristter07: Those FIRST CENTURY CHRISTIANS have to abandon WRONG TEACHING and teaching HELD before becoming Christian which are unscriptural.

Achorladey: Acts 21: 20 shows not only that the Jews became CHRISTIAN they are more ZEALOUS for the LAW and CUSTOMARY practices.
Even calling Paul an Apostate?

Barristter07 United faith, faith is a belief. One faith.

Achorladey: Hahahahahahahahaha. What is the ONE FAITH? Response to what that ONE FAITH is, IS out large.

Barristter07: His congregation also have those taking the lead as the scripture shows, who are those taking the lead among you?

Achorladey: Responded to this question as well.

Barristter07:






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LIARRRRR



Liars don’t have a life.

silly liar

poor tormented lie lie blunderer, you don't have a life, oooh

you deserve it

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Barristter07: Even those you are quoting colosians 2;8 for will answer yes if you ask them if they believe Jesus. yet you quote scripture on their matter showing mouth isn’t enough. does their teaching reveal this that they say with their mouth?

Achoradey: I have responded to the first part of the above in kindness.

as it is you dragging what is not there when I cited colossians 2:8.

One of your GOVERNING BODY member has something to say concerning this quote of yours DOES THEIR TEACHINGS REVEAL THIS THAT THEY SAY WITH THEIR MOUTH?......

A question posed by a lawyer to one of JWS governing body member in one famous country in the year 2015.............

LAWYER: And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokespeople on earth?

Response to the question by the Governing Body member

GOVERNING BODY MEMBER:

That I think would seem to be quite PRESUMPTUOUS to say that we are the ONLY SPOKESMAN The scriptures clearly show that SOMEONE can act in harmony with GOD'S SPIRIT in giving congregations, but if I could just clarify a little, going back to Matthew 24, clearly, Jesus said that in the last days and Jehovah's Witnesses believe these are the last days there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food. So in that respect, we view ourselves as TRYING to fulfil that role.


Barristter07:, when you Identify that Governing Body member that said what is highlighted above, feel free to write a letter to him asking, where EXACTLY in Matthew 24:45 say that, that FAITHFUL slave is a GROUP of PERSONS?

Do not forget to highlight the fact that that the said GOVERNING BODY MEMBER LIED under OATH. Why did I say so? Read the record below.........

All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known ONLY through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the FAITHFUL and DISCREET SLAVE. (The Watchtower; 10/1/1994; pp. 8 )

No matter where we may live on earth, God’s Word continues to serve as a light to our path and a lamp to our roadway as to our conduct and beliefs. (Ps. 119:105) But Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his “faithful and discreet slave,” made up of spirit anointed ones, to help CHRISTIANS in all NATIONS to understand and apply properly the Bible in their lives. UNLESS we are in TOUCH with this CHANNEL of COMMUNICATION that GOD is USING, we will not PROGRESS along the ROAD to LIFE, no matter how much BIBLE READING WE do. (The Watchtower; 12/1/1981; pp. 27)

Not only that the "spirit anointed" GOVERNING BODY MEMBER LIED under OATH, The GB made themselves equal in STATUS to JESUS by saying Nobody will progress ALONG the ROAD leading to life despite knowing that JESUS is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. John 14:6

Barristter07: They are only repeating what Jesus said at Matt 25;34-40,

Achorladey: Bring the repetition out let us see?

Barristter07: Another reference point;

Achorladey: Make it a case study paapaa!

Barristter07: who are you to approve or disapprove what they( GOVERNING BODY) have said? so far they belive john 14:6 and confess Jesus is the Lord, does it matter how they explain matthew 25; 34-40?

Achorladey: Who are you to approve or disapprove what they (OTHER CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS) have said? so far they believed John 14:6 and confess Jesus is the Lord, does it matter how they explain John 1:1. Oga Barristter07 how this take sound for your hear.

Barristte07: You are not smart

Achorladey: According to (barristter07;2019). Place it on marble if you want.

Barristter07: Ephesians 4: 12 READJUSTMENT is one of the work of those taking the lead.

Achorladey: Its not part of CHRIST gift to you, it is the work of those taking the lead, O yo iwo sile. READJUSTMENT Saga that one na another SAGA

Barristter07: This humility is what sincere ones cherish in them,

Achorladey: Did I see you type HUMILITY. Haahahahahahahaha, humble people going as far as SEATING on JESUS seat to judge people and also BECOMING THE WAY. I not only SEE the HUMILITY, it radiates ALL OVER YOUR POST too.

Barristter07: unlike your scattered entities that are tossed around with conflicting teachings.

Achorladey: Even the NOT SCATTERED ENTITY are still being tossed around with CONFLICTING TEACHINGS by the GOVERNING BODY the head of Congregation of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as the image earlier posit.

Barristter07: identify those who take the role of readjustment among you?

Achorladey: Its good to show WAITING attitude and HUMILITY regarding my response to the above just like your GOVERNING BODY always do.

Barristter07: Jehovah’s witnesses do not preach governing body.

Achorladey: What was the TEACHING and PREACHING contained in LESSON 20 all about. Sorry I forgot it was about JESUS CHRIST the GOVERNING BODY.

Barrister07: None of this proved your earlier lie that they are THE HEAD of this Christian congregation.

Achorladey': That picture never comot, go back and check.

Barristter07: I can show you countless publications where Jesus is recognized as the head.
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LIARRRRR

Achorladey: I dont need them. The one I showed did you answer the questions related to them.

Barristter07: From the same lesson 20 of who are doing Gods will today we read:

“It is responsive to the direction of God’s spirit. [highlight] The Governing Body looks to the Universal Sovereign, Jehovah, and to the Head of the congregation, Jesus, for guidance. (1 Corinthians 11:3; Ephesians 5:23). Its members do not regard themselves as the leaders of God’s people.

Achorladey: The material was cited because you requested where your publications PREACHED the GOVERNING BODY. Oga Barristter07 is this PUBLICATION preaching and teaching GOVERNING BODY or NOT?

Barristter07: Liars don’t have a life.

Achorladey: According to barristter07; 2019

Barristter07: See them acknowledging Jesus as the HEAD.

Achorladey: The image tells me the GB is the HEAD of the CONGREGATION that is why they cannot be found inside the CONGREGATION.

Barristter07: silly liar

Achorladey: Don't tell me your adjectives don't end.

Barristter07:
Shame will not allow you say the truth, only to dribble words up and down. O ma se o

Amidst " US " , take the lead but no name , no identity . When people say " The Way" it's an easy way to identify those who are united in the Christian congregation in the first century , Why not just admit yiu are telling lies to save face.

Come out clean, since you now admit to belong to a group, Who are those taking the lead among you ? Who are your members sef ? Oniro buruku

What truth? Those stated in my response all this while are WHAT? I forgot according to Barristter07, they are all LIES! I don't have to force it into your thinking and mindset.

So CHRISTIANS today can not be EASILY IDENTIFIED?

I know your mindset is about NAMES, NAMES, NAMES will there names bring you SALVATION. You will look for names tire, when Paul said what was recorded in Heb 13:17, he mentioned their names abi.

Tamedo Lagbaja is one of them. hahahahahahahaha

Barrister07: Come out clean, since you now admit to belong to a group, Who are those taking the lead among you ? Who are your members sef ? Oniro buruku.

Achorladey: Is CHRISTIAN a group or NOT? Is Christian a NAME? obviously according to Barristter07, it only becomes a group or a name when a denominational name is attached to it.

Come out clean ko , come out dirty ni.
I have been hiding from you all this while abi?

Barristter07: Oniro buruku

Achorladey: Oro asapejuwe miiran.

achorladey:
What truth? Those stated in my response all this while are WHAT? I forgot according to Barristter07, they are all LIES! I don't have to force it into your thinking and mindset.

So CHRISTIANS today can not be EASILY IDENTIFIED?


I know your mindset is about NAMES, NAMES, NAMES will there names bring you SALVATION. You will look for names tire, when Paul said what was recorded in Heb 13:17, he mentioned their names abi.

Tamedo Lagbaja is one of them. hahahahahahahaha

Barrister07: Come out clean, since you now admit to belong to a group, Who are those taking the lead among you ? Who are your members sef ? Oniro buruku.

Achorladey: Is CHRISTIAN a group or NOT? Is Christian a NAME? obviously according to Barristter07, it only becomes a group or a name when a denominational name is attached to it.

Come out clean ko , come out dirty ni.
I have been hiding from you all this while abi?

Barristter07: Oniro buruku

Achorladey: Oro asapejuwe miiran.

People had no problem recognizing members of " THE WAY " , that name identify them.

They are so united that Paul ask Colossian brothers to exchange letters with Laodicean brothers .

Can same happen with you ?

Sit at home ministry, u have no specific identity that people can use to identify your people ?

Liar forming " US " online , when he belong to sit at home ministry. Are you aware that people knew Paul as one of those taking the lead among members of the sect of Nazarene as they are called ?

Who are yours ? Asiri Tu

Barristter07:
People had no problem recognizing members of " THE WAY " , that name identify them.

They are so united that Paul ask Colossian brothers to exchange letters with Laodicean brothers .

Can same happen with you ?

Sit at home ministry, u have no specific identity that people can use to identify your people ?

Liar forming " US " online , when he belong to sit at home ministry. Are you aware that people knew Paul as one of those taking the lead among members of the sect of Nazarene as they are called ?

Who are yours ? Asiri Tu

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Tell us which way is more important than Jesus Christ?

He has told you jesus Christ is his leader and head of his congregation.

Must he agree with you that some old men in new York are his leaders or the head of his congregation?

Shame no even let you quote bible verse to support your claim. Which people recognized Paul as taking the lead. Provide Bible verse.

Deadlytruth:
It is you who have a long way to go as you have not been able to show any Bible passage to substantiate your argument that hell is not fire

Is it that you can't comprehend properly ?

Hell ( Hades ) which appear at Luke 16 has been shown as Grave through Rev 20:13 quoted by captivator

KJV

" and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them "

CSB

and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them;

NLT

and death and the grave gave up their dead.

Why is Hades translated Grave ?

I have shown you several citations where Jesus mentioned hell and went ahead to specifically describe it as fire that never goes out.

Jesus mention Gehenna not hell .

To prove it's Gehenna and NOT hell, I asked you : according to Mark 9:43 , Do you deadlytruth believe human hands proceed to hellfire as Jesus mention here ? I demand an answer #B5

Fire means destruction, the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah was also described as fire that never goes out, I guess those cities are still burning till now ? Jude 7

I also showed you where Jesus mentioned fire in a parable and in His literal interpretation of the parable he mentioned fire again rather than Hades or Gehenna.

Have explained what fire means .

He as well mention gnashing of teeth, Do you accept it means your soul/spirit have Bones ( Teeth ) ?
deadlytruth, Answer this. #B6

Neither you nor captivator has been able to address that parable and its interpretation till now.

Captivator isn't online since he made that post , I check his last seen. Be objective

Have addressed all that. I demand some answers from you too.

Captivator picked a Revelations verse in isolation to prove his doctrine. But I exposed his heretic use of that verse by pointing him back to the entire passage which rather explains that after being called from their graves both on land and in the sea, the evil ones were thrown into a lake of fire.

Finally .

#B7 - Deadlytruth , What Greek word was translated Grave in that verse ? Cc: Captivator , note his response

Then I asked him how possible they were again thrown back into the soil and seas after judgement if the lake of fire means the very graves from which they were called? He ran away till now. So he rather exposed the folly of himself and yourself.

Useless rant , he never said the above. Answer question B7



You have agreed with him that Hades is Grave , don't you ?

It is getting clearer that you don't really study the Bible with your own independent mind but with the mindset imposed on your by a publishing company. Exodus 3:2 says:
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him as a flame coming from the middle of a bush. Moses saw that the bush was on fire but that it was not burning up.

The angel itself was the flame that was burning the bush and not that the flame was burning the angel. So your argument that the angel was a spirit whom the flame couldn't burn is bunkum. Read the bolded again. It was the bush that verse spoke of as not being burnt despite a fire was around it.

Wrong translation,

NASB , NIV, NLT , CSB. KJV etc all said " IN a ".


Exodus 3:2 NLT

" There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire from the middle of a bush. "

To add pepper to your wounds, Stephen confirm this as true at Act 7:30, he said IN A

Even the spurious translation you quoted from says IN a at Act 7:30

Sorry, u failed again. That proved fire can't harm a spirit being.

But you believed that the 144,000 men were real despite they are from the same seal as those which showed the stars you believe are figurative? This is an irony of yours which you have failed to address despite it being repeatedly pointed out. .

If you want me to address it, do you now accept The opening of seven seals are Symbolic ?.

And till now you have still not been able to show me where the Bible specifically says that spirits can neither speak nor feel pains. I have shown the verses that prove otherwise.

Talk or speak was never the issue here please ...

But , the rich man has a Fleshly tongue, Do spirit have flesh ?

Fully addressed , cc: Deadlytruth

Barristter07:
Is it that you can't comprehend properly ?

Hell ( Hades ) which appear at Luke 16 has been shown as Grave through Rev 20:13 quoted by captivator

KJV

" and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them "

CSB

and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them;

NLT

and death and the grave gave up their dead.

Why is Hades translated Grave ?



Will respond to all this watery allegation soon, duty calls

So you can see people actually read the bible. You twisted exodus 3 so as to fit your own narrative. It is now difficult for you to defend your statement because you have been caught.

Barristter07:
Is it that you can't comprehend properly ?

Hell ( Hades ) which appear at Luke 16 has been shown as Grave through Rev 20:13 quoted by captivator

KJV

" and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them "

CSB

and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them;

NLT

and death and the grave gave up their dead.

Why is Hades translated Grave ?



Will respond to all this watery allegation soon, duty calls

Shame did not allow you put up the whole verse. You will isolate a phrase from a verse and start asking stupid questions. When people quote the whole verse and show you your error you will run or start asking something you have asked and they have already given you answer.

Barristter07:
Is it that you can't comprehend properly ?

Hell ( Hades ) which appear at Luke 16 has been shown as Grave through Rev 20:13 quoted by captivator

KJV

" and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them "

CSB

and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them;

NLT

and death and the grave gave up their dead.

Why is Hades translated Grave ?



Will respond to all this watery allegation soon, duty calls

And verse 14 says:

14. Then death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire.
Why did you select only the verses which favour you but leave out verse 14 which doesn't? Ojoro doctrine!

Hairyrapunzel:
So you can see people actually read the bible. You twisted exodus 3 so as to fit your own narrative. It is now difficult for you to defend your statement because you have been caught.

That is their stock in trade. They are experts at picking verses in isolation and twisting them to suit their Ojoro doctrine. No wonder their doctrines change when they later read further but still don't read completely. Deception experts!

Hairyrapunzel:
Shame did not allow you put up the whole verse. You will isolate a phrase from a verse and start asking stupid questions. When people quote the whole verse and show you your error you will run or start asking something you have asked and they have already given you answer.

That is why I asked him why he loves moving in circles. But he didn't understand what I meant.
Before you know it now he will start quoting Encyclopedia Brittanica to defend his belief that the souls spoken of in heaven are not real souls.

Deadlytruth:
That is why I asked him why he loves moving in circles. But he didn't understand what I meant.
Before you know it now he will start quoting Encyclopedia Brittanica to defend his belief that the souls spoken of in heaven are not real souls.

Lol. Encyclopedia people. He is even quoting a secular source. If someone else quotes this same encyclopedia to discredit their doctrine he will be the first to shout secular sources. Lol

Hairyrapunzel:
Lol. Encyclopedia people. He is even quoting a secular source. If someone else quotes this same encyclopedia to discredit their doctrine he will be the first to shout secular sources. Lol

Ironically they are the same people who are quick to accuse other Christians of following man made rules. I don't know where the author of Encyclopedia Brittanica claims he was inspired by God. Very crass hypocrites!

Deadlytruth:
And verse 14 says:

14. Then death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire.
Why did you select only the verses which favour you but leave out verse 14 which doesn't? Ojoro doctrine!

Lake of fire IS NOT Hades

The focus of discussion was if Hades means grave Or not , Do u now accept Hades means Grave as Captivator pointed out, ?...

Here you said in a post "

Captivator picked a Revelations verse in isolation to prove his doctrine. But I exposed his heretic use of that verse by pointing him back to the entire passage which rather explains that after being called from their graves both on land and in the sea, the evil ones were thrown into a lake of fire.


Answer that then we can address verse 14. , @ red, From Hades they are called , Are you now accepting Hades means Grave ?

Barristter07:
Is it that you can't comprehend properly ?

Hell ( Hades ) which appear at Luke 16 has been shown as Grave through Rev 20:13 quoted by captivator

KJV

" and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them "

CSB

and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them;

NLT

and death and the grave gave up their dead.

Why is Hades translated Grave ?



Jesus mention Gehenna not hell .

To prove it's Gehenna and NOT hell, I asked you : according to Mark 9:43 , Do you deadlytruth believe human hands proceed to hellfire as Jesus mention here ? I demand an answer #B5

Fire means destruction, the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah was also described as fire that never goes out, I guess those cities are still burning till now ? Jude 7



Have explained what fire means .

He as well mention gnashing of teeth, Do you accept it means your soul/spirit have Bones ( Teeth ) ?
deadlytruth, Answer this. #B6



Captivator isn't online since he made that post , I check his last seen. Be objective

Have addressed all that. I demand some answers from you too.



Finally .

#B7 - Deadlytruth , What Greek word was translated Grave in that verse ? Cc: Captivator , note his response




Useless rant , he never said the above. Answer question B7



You have agreed with him that Hades is Grave , don't you ?



Wrong translation,

NASB , NIV, NLT , CSB. KJV etc all said " IN a ".


Exodus 3:2 NLT

" There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire from the middle of a bush. "

To add pepper to your wounds, Stephen confirm this as true at Act 7:30, he said IN A

Even the spurious translation you quoted from says IN a at Act 7:30

Sorry, u failed again. That proved fire can't harm a spirit being.



If you want me to address it, do you now accept The opening of seven seals are Symbolic ?.



Talk or speak was never the issue here please ...

But , the rich man has a Fleshly tongue, Do spirit have flesh ?

Fully addressed , cc: Deadlytruth

Refer to this post , @ deadlytruth

Cc: Captivator

Barristter07:
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Greek Gehenna ( a refuse dump)

Refuse thrown into Gehenna DO NOT BURN FOREVER. Jesus is talking about annihilation of the wicked

Oh, hell ... So HUMAN HANDS now Go to this imaginary hell? please how many corpse had disappeared to hell with both hands ? Tagged B1. Respond.



The bold is not the issue here, The MAN has TONGUE ( A Flesh ) , do Spirit have flesh ?

B2#

@ deadlytruth , why are you running away from question B1 and B2 labelled above ?

johnw47:
poor tormented lie lie blunderer, you don't have a life, oooh

you deserve it
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as at 12:27am on February 5, You confessed saying : " Word of God did ascend to His Father in the Spirit,
and that's what the person of the Word of God is, A Spirit "

Telling us that the spirit that ascend is the person called Jesus , na ordinary body die. The real person take flight to heaven.

4 Gbosa for you ,

See una life outside,