sonmvayina:
We are spiritual beings having a human experience or walking a human path.. Death is an illusion...
The star in the Israeli flag means "as above so below".. When we "die" in this physical world we are born in the spiritual world, when we die In the spiritual world we are born in the physical world.. Life is a circle not a straight line...

Psalm 104:29-31..
We are the breath of God. The igbos calls that breath in each individual "chi" the yoruba calls it "or"..

Before God breathed into Adam, wat exactly was he. Wasn't he just nonliving?

That’s not a proof anyway

Check my signature to migrate to Canada

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So how come most of these people all experience similar things in their NDE why don't some report seeing scooby doo or Santa Claus?

So even the animals that dies too, even the trees that get dried up at old age too, even the machines that ware out too. Death is not an evidence that God exist rather you blieving makes him exist, what you don't believe in do not exist

theoriginalgood:
Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there!

Whether death or not all that matters is do good to your fellow human beings, help people always, help children, help the motherless babies, the beggars on the streets in fact do good that's and never forget to enjoy ur life and do not bad to anyone and enjoy ur life and watch ur soul sit with angels that's all, in the words of DMX lord give me a sign.

Following the advise of Ecclesiastes, please let us enjoy life.. Thank you.

Death is just the proof of the existence of entropy.

As for saying that God only creates good things, if that is true then how come the devil is evil?

On another note, God isn't perfect, a perfect God would have created a perfect world.

well I don't know much about death but I can sy that I have had experiences that so that God truly exists and if some people don't believe in Him then I won't even judge or fault them because it'd be a bad thing to do. I can only pray that my life radiates the glory and nature of God And that people may come to know him through me but I simply do not ha
ve the right to fault anyone because we all have the right to our beliefs.

BOWOTO:
Your head is turninoninown.

Enjoy your life bro, nobody really knows what's on the other side.

I mean nobody.

nobody really know what's on the other side but it doesn't take a genius to know there's no peace for the wicked after death

theoriginalgood:

God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die.

1. So, the Devil is a good being and that's why he doesn't die?

2. That a Machine wears out and stops working is a prove that man exists?

Hmmm! Good of U.....

Here to read conflicting arguments.

Its fine if you believe somehow you will exist without a functioning brain when you die. What irritates me about some Christians is the way they try to force others to believe their ideology. How does it affect your life and your existence if i dont want to believe. Do you put food on my table?? By the way im not an atheist or a theist. I simply don’t know if there is a God or not. Im okay with my life like that rather than give room for hallucinations. Doesn’t stop me from being good to other human beings. I dont need the fear of hell to love my fellow human. There’s a sense of guilt in every human to identify right and wrong.

Nature is what we know. We do not know the gods of religions. And nature is not kind, or merciful, or loving. If God made me—the fabled God of the three qualities of which I spoke: mercy, kindness, love—He also made the fish I catch and eat. And where do His mercy, kindness, and love for that fish come in? No; nature made us—nature did it all—not the gods of the religions.[115] Thomas Edison

Life is a Semester in eternal existence as experienced by the limited faculties of a materialized DNA blueprints in Fibonacci sequences called Creatures.

The Human Experience, the animals' experience, the Vegetative Experience, the Rock Experience, even that of intelligent light and sound are conscious awareness in the spectrum of conscious spirit pervading all time-space continuum.

It is not that we are not God collectively, it is that we are dumbed down versions of the Human Beings that built us. The Human body, was designed to advance the evolution of the planet from the substrates of 'remains' or corpse of 'nephillic' giants.

You think too highly of yourselves, yet forget that the chimpazees are your cousins, the trees are your nephews, the birds are your uncles, even the snakes are your distant cousins.

The brain has over 100 billion neurons connecting gradually, and if all connects as should be, you will wise as those humans that built you.

'Let US make man in OUR image' - The God(s), called Elohim, meaning - (those who from the heavens come) - heaven being mars, Orion and Plaeadis are your ancient great grand parents. They are Humans like you and I, but we can call them aliens, ETs etc ? Why would we call our Great Grand Parents such alien names when they are still here with us, among us, in different costumes and bodies ?

Gentlemen and Ladies, you have no idea what you are. And for this reason I have come, so prepare your offerings, your tithes and your gifts. So, I may eat from the Lord's Vineyard.

Anyone ready to pay tithes for the message ?

Wow. When same god was a creation of human imagination?

Anas09:

Hahahahahahahsa. See how you are emphasizing 'No body knows'. That you don't doesn't mean no body knows.

Doesn't Jesus Know?

May be you shd go to YouTube and type N.D.E' (Near Dead Experience) and watch.

And download 'The AfterLife' by Emmanuel Swedenborg and read.

I can tell you abt my own little Experience when i went for surgery.

Pls stop insisting on what you don't know know. There's Life after dead.

Near Death Experience.
Not after death experience.
Nobody knows what’s on the other side.

vickey4sure:
Its fine if you believe somehow you will exist without a functioning brain when you die. What irritates me about Christians is the way they try to force others to believe their ideology. How does it affect your life and your existence if i dont want to believe. Do you put food on my table?? By the way im not an atheist or a theist. I simply don’t know if there is a God or not. Im okay with my life like that rather than give room for hallucinations. Doesn’t stop me from being good to other human beings. I dont need the fear of hell to love my fellow human. There’s a sense of guilt in every human to identify right and wrong.
So please!!! Go to church and try to make heaven first.

I definitely second this, Morality is what defines good or bad, we do not need a higher being to tell us what is good or bad

theoriginalgood:
Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there!

cows, chickens, mosquitoes, flies and spiders die also, does it also mean they're not good? Because they can't discern between good and evil. Can they?

theoriginalgood:


You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good.

It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence.

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good.

You just said “You are what you create”, and in the same breath absolve “God” of responsibility for his creation.

According to your Bible, in the beginning, the earth was a formless void.

Then God created everything there in...

On your point about death being the consequence of sin...

What divine infractions did the withered oak, the dead lion and the rotten apple commit?

Death is moving from one state to another just like when ice acquires enough heat it changes state to water and when water acquires enough heat it changes to gas.

The body is the dress that we wear when we incarnate on this plane.

When we are ready to go we discard it.

slimderek:


Near Death Experience.
Not after death experience.
Nobody knows what’s on the other side.

When you've learnt how to astral travel your opinion will change.

vickey4sure:
Its fine if you believe somehow you will exist without a functioning brain when you die. What irritates me about some Christians is the way they try to force others to believe their ideology. How does it affect your life and your existence if i dont want to believe. Do you put food on my table?? By the way im not an atheist or a theist. I simply don’t know if there is a God or not. Im okay with my life like that rather than give room for hallucinations. Doesn’t stop me from being good to other human beings. I dont need the fear of hell to love my fellow human. There’s a sense of guilt in every human to identify right and wrong.
So please!!! Go to church and try to make heaven first.

So who's forcing you here? Has anybody dragged you by the collar to follow them to church? Just curious?

Death is a return to the steady state all things that possess work return to. God is irrelevant in natural processes whether or not it exists.

Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there![color=#000099][/color]

theoriginalgood:
Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there!

Death isn't proof of a higher power:1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. Even Mr. death himself shall be dealt with.
Life is the proof of a higher power: "Abundant life" comes from the Bible verse John 10:10b, "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." "More abundantly" means to have a superabundance of a thing. "Abundant life" refers to life in its abounding fullness of joy and strength for mind, body, and soul.

Romans 6:4. We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

Philippians 3:20-21
But our commonwealth is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will change our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power which enables him even to subject all things to himself.

Thessalonians 4:13-14
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.

John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”



I conclude: Death isn't proof of a higher power:1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. Even Mr. death himself shall be dealt with.
Life is the proof of a higher power: "Abundant life" comes from the Bible verse John 10:10b,

Yeah, tell that to the mosquitoes

Dude obviously doesn't know that humans are animals too. Basic biology should have saved this display of ignorance

theoriginalgood:
Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there!

Do you live with the Gods to know they don't die?

As long as you stick to the idea of a god somewhere,
As long as you are comfortable with inherited myths and mythologies,
As long as you depends on men and books for truths and meaning of life,
As long as you remain in the deception that one religion or the other is the way,
As long as you chose to defend ideas and myths fired into your innocent consciousness,
As long as you remain a believer and a follower;....

You will never be free,
You will never know,
No wonder, christian's Jesus said;"Ye shall know the TRUTH and it shall set you FREE"
Don't be surprised, that DEATH is by far more beautiful than this illusion you're so much attached to.
Unfortunately, virtually everyone knows something about death, but very few dare exploring it
You are a pure consciousness, not bag of flesh you're dragging around

If you can give up your identity,
if you can let go your knowledge,
if you can completely drop your ego,
if you will drop attachments for everything, just like Jesus you "misunderstood"
One day, you will be able to say " I and father are ONE" or "I and mother are ONE" or whatever figure your mind presents

Find your own TRUTH
Tooooo much lies flying around
I believe NOTHING, in case you are tempted to ask.