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Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by absoluteSuccess: 12:24pm On May 29, 2017 |
Olu317: May your good dreams for the homeland come true. May the Lord cause his face to shine on you. We bless you from zion. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 1:51pm On May 29, 2017 |
absoluteSuccess:Asé. May the almighty God heed our Prayers. In Eledumare alone our freedom is certain. God bless us all who are from the land of O'J(D)UDUA—USÉRÉ(ISÉRI). 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by ewa26: 2:57am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Right my grandma told me now that it was mkscounstrued to the rest of. Nigeria as oyibo but the original yoruba form (thats, oyinbo) is bae ok |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Nobody: 12:43am On Jun 30, 2017 |
It was so funny....about a week ago, I was talking with dad about Nigeria and I said "oyinbo" & my dad stopped talking and shockingly said, "Where did you learn that word?" And I told him, "On the Nigerian website I've been telling you about." He was pleasantly shocked. So I'm slowly....slowly learning. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 1:02am On Jun 30, 2017 |
Let's just agree that oyibo's Igbo and oyinbo's Yoruba. No one had to copy either one from the other. 2 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by obaaderemi: 8:54am On Jul 20, 2017 |
OMANBALA1:Fvcking inferior being!your people being in high demand from white slavers is a thing to be ashamed of and a piece of your history you should try to forget. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by anyaruoala: 4:22pm On Jul 27, 2017 |
[quote author=anyaruoala post=58887448][/quote]bigfrancis21 I am happy that you mentioned Ebonyi State because that is where I have always believed Equiano came from. I wonder why no one has cared to investigate the Igbo town or village of Isiaka in present day Ebonyi State close to its border with the Abia town of Uturu. The i sound in Isiaka (possibly pronounced Isaka) might be what Equiano rendered as Essaka. The village can be identified on 'Mapcarta' interactive map, a little south of Afikpo Road junction on Okigwe-Abomega highway. It is surrounded by other communities such as Ndiokoroukwo, Ogo-Ubi, Ndiobasi, Amangwu and Onuaku-Uturu (makes sense?). In days gone-by people had no broad geography of their areas; they only identified their villages when asked where they hailed from. With respect to Benin Kingdom, he may have just heard of it without knowing where it was just like I did, growing up in a remote village in the early fifties. It does not mean that his town was ruled by Benin. Reference to Benin might have also come from the books he read prior to his writing. Details of his descrption of himself, his village and their customs, reveals without doubt, a man of Northern Igbo extraction. Scholars at Uturu University owe us a duty to unravel this puzzle if I may call it that. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by anyaruoala: 4:29pm On Jul 27, 2017 |
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Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 5:14am On Aug 26, 2017 |
absoluteSuccess:Thank you. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by absoluteSuccess: 8:25am On Aug 26, 2017 |
Probz: UWC bro. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by pazienza(m): 1:09am On Aug 27, 2017 |
bigfrancis21: You couldn't have put it better. Good one, bro. 5 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by absoluteSuccess: 9:58pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Bright Chimezie song recently made some senseto me, in the year 1974 oh, i travelled to oyinbo mans country, alabeke eh. I used to think alabeke is Yoruba slang in his song, but it is clear he meant ' white man's country in igbo language. Alabeke is 'oyibo man country'. 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by ewa26: 7:00pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
it stems from rivers state ok, rivers ibo |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by rhektor(m): 7:21pm On Nov 27, 2017 |
Kennydoc: And who made this the accepted spelling? |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Konquest: 7:36am On Nov 28, 2017 |
Kennydoc:^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ Oyinbo is a Yoruba word meaning peeled honey.[HUMAN SKIN] Oyin+Bo OYIN[Honey] BO[Peel] The African skin complexion is BROWN like honey! Figuratively the BROWN SKIN[Honey] gets PEELED[Bo] It is just like the pure Yoruba word: Ashewo [prostitute] which was or had been corrupted to "Ashawo" by Wale Adenuga's IKEBE SUPER MAGAZINE in pidgin. Mr. Wale Adenuga's humour magazine Ikebe Super which was hugely popular nation wide from 1975 to the early 1980s [1983] featured the lead character, the randy Dauda the Sexy Guy. The use of Ashawo by Wale Adenuga became prominent because his publication as in pidgin English and interjected with some Nigerian words like O jigbi jigbi jigbi in Yoruba or Osanobua in Bini-Edo! I used to discretely read Ikebe Super in those days! There was a print run of up to 500,000 per month of Ikebe Super. Yoruba names even have Oyinbo in them for generations such as: Adetoyinbo, Oguntoyinbo, Fatoyinbo, Odetoyinbo So, I hope this helps. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by ewa26: 2:06am On Nov 29, 2017 |
Konquest: Hon, Igbos also get oyibo for first and last name ok, I strongly believe is an Igbo word rather dan Yoruba ok 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by NonsoPlatinum: 5:57am On Nov 29, 2017 |
There's a lot of igbo culture being promoted in the Igbo-British community. Have a look at their channel, they are trying to keep the language alive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTyt1IqD6hk |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Konquest: 12:40pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
ewa26:^^^^^ ^^^^^ @ewa26 Urhobos also have "Oyibo" as surnames just like they have "Okoro" as surnames. Even some Yorubas have "Okoro" as surnames and they have different meanings to the Ibo "Okoro!" However the word "Oyinbo" of Yorubas is NOT the same as "Oyibo" of Ibos. I clearly explained the meaning/origin of "Oyinbo" in my last post on this thread and you can READ it carefully below: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Figuratively the BROWN SKIN["Honey-coloured" or "Oyin"] gets PEELED["Bo"] in Yoruba. Oyin+Bo [IN Yoruba means HONEY+PEEL] "Oyinbo" is a Yoruba word meaning PEELED honey[BROWN HUMAN SKIN]. When you REMOVE the OUTER BROWN layer of the Nigerian person's skin, due to hot water burn or hot oil burn as an EXAMPLE, the SKIN TURN WHITE! Oyin+Bo Yoruba II English ------------------- 1. OYIN, [Honey] 2. BO, [Peel] The African skin complexion is BROWN like honey! Figuratively the BROWN SKIN["Honey-coloured" or "Oyin"] gets PEELED["Bo"] in Yoruba. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Meanwhile "Oyibo" to the Ibos simply means "Ibo People/Person" and does NOT refer to "White People." Ibos call white people "Onye Ocha" or "Bekee" All the best! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
Konquest:They will not accept instead lay claim to it. But tell it to them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 9:12pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
Konquest: Point of correction: onye Igbo means Igbo person. Oyibo means white man. 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Konquest: 10:23am On Dec 03, 2017 |
Probz:^^^^^ ^^^^^ OK... Onye Ibo [Ibo Person] is correct! "Oyibo" in Ibo is said to be derived from "Onye Ibo" or "Ibo Person"! How then does "Onye Ibo" [Ibo Person] TRANSLATE to mean a "White Person or White man?" It DOESN'T make SENSE to me! 1. How was "Oyibo" evolved by Ibos? What is the etymology or origin? How does this compare with the following Ibo-derived words for "White man?" A. Onye-Ocha/Ndi Ocha[White man] which is the standard Ibo term for White man B. Bekee[White man], which was derived from the LAST name of a Scottish explorer by the name of William Baikie who FIRST visited West Africa/Nigeria in 1854! 2. Like I stated, "Oyinbo" [White man] etymology or origin in Yoruba is: Oyin+Bo= Honey+Peel [Peeled Brown Skin]. The Itsekiris, some Eastern Yoruba dialects, Urhobos, Isokos use "Oyibo" to refer to "White man." In Edoland, "Ebo" I learnt refers to "White man." Last but not least, @Probz, are you from Arochukwu? I deduced from "your" dressing and profile pics that you might be. There are some questions about Aro history[which I have read in the past for years now] that I want to ask later from a FIRST-HAND source because I love learning about different cultures/histories worldwide. All the best and happy Sunday to you! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 3:00pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Konquest: All I know is I was literally born and oyibo was being used for anything and everything to do with the white man in the Anambra/Enugu/Delta Igbo axis and I'm only a few years away from 30. I'm sure it didn't magically pop up into existence in 80s/90s. It might just be one of those ejime-ejire-type scenarios. None was directly loaned from the other but we share the word together through Igala while the ultimate etymology's Yoruba. That's fine. You won't see me heavily debating the origin of the word oyi(n)bo on here but I think it's just shared. It's not a 21st century pidgin loan word like some people on here make out. I know Edos use ebo for white man, yh. I didn't know anywhere in the Eastern flank of Yorubaland use oyibo. I was watching this video of an Akoko Ondo lady speaking something in her conc.-arse dialect and she used oyinbo (and she said that word more than once). And is the Ekiti equivalent not eyinbo? I'm not from Arochukwu, nah. It's not even me in that profile picture. I could bore you with a lengthy story of my maternal and paternal ancestries but not one of them ties me to that side of Igboland. I'm a full-blooded Anambra nigga. Links to Nsukka and Igala but nowhere in Imo State. And likewise literally no one in Nigeria outside of southern Igboland calls the white man bekee. It's exclusively an Abia/Imo thing. Onye ocha's the central standardised way of calling a white man specifically but people from northern and western Igboland (Enugu through to Asaba) don't know anything other than oyibo. You'll never, ever hear anyone from Ogwashi Ukwu or Awka calling a white man bekee. Never. It's genuinely a foreign word to us. Oh and it's a myth that bekee derives from William Baike's surname. I can't remember the name of the Tumblr account who posted the evidence but it's actually been proven that that bekee was used in some form or other before Baike was even born so that's that theory out of the window. Either it's a contraction of either bia i ike ["he (the white man) has come to divide" in Igbo] or mbracka (Efik-Ibibio for white man) or it was copied from somewhere. But it's nothing at all to do with William Baike. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Konquest: 6:52pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Probz:^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ @Probz Impressive! Thanks for doing "maximum justice" in with your post! I have learned some profound info in this post. And by the way - I like the fact that you write in a very lucid and neat manner from top to bottom! About the profile pics - now I get it... I thought you are from Arochukwu in Abia State based on that dressing... it's all good. The "Beke or Bekee/William Baike" definition comes from Wikipedia but then those of use Wikipedia as Editors know FULL WELL that Wikipedia isn't even regarded as a reliable source for accurate information because of entry vandalisms and anybody can just log in and edit biographical/political/historical entries with falsehoods/propaganda. This is the reason why educational institutions in the Western world do NOT ACCEPT Wikipedia entries as references in project/research work. It is indeed interesting getting to study how languages and cultures evolve and influence one another worldwide. For example along the border areas, you will find an intermingling/borrowing of words or languages in Nigeria: God is known by the Efik/Ibibio as "Abasi" and the Ibo use "Obasi" for God as well in "Central Ibo." Thanks again. All the best! |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 8:04pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Konquest: Mhm. Tell me more about Eastern Yorubaland and oyibo. I don’t look loads different to the guy in my PP by the way. Just darker skinned. Lool. And what he’s wearing is something I myself would and do wear. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Konquest: 8:51pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Probz:^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ @ Probz I'm seeing this now, but I will not be able to delve fully into the specifics as of now because of some urgent prior engagements. Just a quick response... You can ask @Olu317, @9jakool and @Macof the question on some of the Eastern Yoruba and the dialectic variations in the use of "oyibo"/"oyinbo." @Olu317 has been ACTIVE on the thread that YOU created on "Yoruba Names by Region" You can as well ask him on the informative thread. He'll do justice to that as an EXPERIENCED person with decades of deep insights of linguistic and historical events in the SW and elsewhere. Take charge! 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by ewa26: 6:20am On Jun 26, 2018 |
oyibo is Edo word ok 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Proverbalizer: 12:04am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Kennydoc: actually I don't believe you, what magical, impenetrable border prevented Igbo and Yoruba people from mixing before the 19th century? Any why are there actually hundreds or thousands of other words that are the same or quite similar between the two languages? |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 4:00pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
Proverbalizer: I honestly believe that Igbo and Yoruba languages diverged from a common language at some point, with Igbo probably being older especially if you compare the grammar and structure of both languages - Yoruba seems like a simplified version of this proto-language. 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by goalernestman: 12:51am On Feb 28, 2019 |
bigfrancis21: actually Edo the benin is the link between igbo and Yoruba is a fact, there is no tribe of igbo states that dont have benin in their history same with Yoruba |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 3:09am On Feb 28, 2019 |
goalernestman: Actually, Nri civilization in Anambra is the oldest human organization/settlement/civilization in southern Nigeria that appeared in the 9th century. Ife civilization came into fore around the 12th century and the Bini civilization around the 14th or 16th century. Igbo>Yoruba>Bini...in that order. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by goalernestman: 5:18pm On Feb 28, 2019 |
bigfrancis21: Who was the first king of Nri kingdom if you answer i will belive you but if you dont i will know there is noting like Nri |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Weedfree: 3:08pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
if we were to look at it through carbon date NRI was founded during 900 period which is old but not the oldest in Nigeria civilization that still exist. The oldest should be Sungbo's Eredo dated around 800 period and is the earliest prof of a developed kingdom than Previously believed. 1 Like |
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