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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 6:32am On Feb 28, 2019
lying pharisee deceiver OneJ
liars have no part in God

but you are part of your god:

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:58am On Feb 28, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
As long as they are not bowing down to worship them. The Cross is not a forbidden symbol it is only forbidden when you substitute and replace the worship of God with it. It is also forbidden to replace the word of God with the Watchtower magazine/organisation.
That's somehow a difficult one to solve. Because the Cross is a symbol of worship initiated by the Roman Catholics Church, according to the encyclopedia.
Moreover if every religion decides to choose a symbol since it appears in the Bible,can we conclude that all such symbols are not forbidden,so far they're not bowing to it?
As for the Watchtower magazine/organization,let's keep that in a cooler for now because the organization has revised their translation of the Bible several time in the past so we'll discuss about them later. For now let us fully concentrate on what the God's law says and how we can uphold it! Good morning Sir
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky:
johnw47:
Jehovah didn't create anyone at the beginning of creation, at the beginning of creation was God and Wisdom the word
nothing was created that the word did not create,
the LORD possessed Wisdom He didn't create wisdom, He always possessed Wisdom,

Jehovah God-Father and Wisdom the word, created the heavens, you don't understand anything oh duh one
and you don't believe God




of course gen 1:26 is two persons, Father and the word, u so duh duh
by the way it is not God and the angels, like you false jw's believe
and of course God is a spirit-one spirit,
Crooked LIAR & twister , bring proof here that Jehovah's witnesses taught you that Gen1:26 referred strictly " to God and the angels".


** Johnw lying Pharisee & twister, " the Lord possessed Wisdom He didn't create Wisdom", FRAUD !

Yahweh created the one personified as 'Wisdom' in Pro8:22,27, stop twisting the holy scriptures , Jesus himself said he is the "Wisdom of God"(Luke 11:49. Matt23:34. 1cor1:24,30 ).
** Mr LIAR, everyone knows that Prov8:22-30, referenced Jesus Christ, your lie lie no fit change am.

**** The same Hebrew word (qanah > To erect ,CREATE, to get, procure, to own, Acquire, Possess"
. Sourced from Strong's Hebrew 7069). in Prov 8:22 is also the same word at Gen4:1"I have GOTTEN a man by Jehovah', Deu32:6"your CREATOR,who MADE you & FORMED you".Gen14:19,22" CREATOR (Possessor). Psalms 139:12.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/qanah.html.

How did Jehovah Possessed, Acquired ,Created , Procured the spirit being personified as Wisdom in Prov8:22?

Spiritual fraudsters wey dey change & misquote holy scriptures , dey form Christian.
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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:14pm On Feb 28, 2019
Janosky:
Crooked LIAR & twister , bring proof here that Jehovah's witnesses taught you that Gen1:26 referred strictly " to God and the angels".


** Johnw lying Pharisee & twister, " the Lord possessed Wisdom He didn't create Wisdom", FRAUD !

Yahweh created the one personified as 'Wisdom' in Pro8:22,27, stop twisting the holy scriptures , Jesus himself said he is the "Wisdom of God"(Luke 11:49. Matt23:34. 1cor1:24,30 ).
** Mr LIAR, everyone knows that Prov8:22-30, referenced Jesus Christ, your lie lie no fit change am.

**** The same Hebrew word (qanah > To erect ,CREATE, to get, procure, to own, Acquire, Possess"
. Sourced from Strong's Hebrew 7069). in Prov 8:22 is also the same word at Gen4:1"I have GOTTEN a man by Jehovah', Deu32:6"your CREATOR,who MADE you & FORMED you".Gen14:19,22" CREATOR (Possessor). Psalms 139:12.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/qanah.html.

How did Jehovah Possessed, Acquired ,Created , Procured the spirit being personified as Wisdom in Prov8:22?

Spiritual fraudsters wey dey change & misquote holy scriptures , dey form Christian.
Wisdom is a woman who cries at the city gate. Your jehovah. Did not have wisdom untill he created wisdom. Lol
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:18pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
That's somehow a difficult one to solve. Because the Cross is a symbol of worship initiated by the Roman Catholics Church, according to the encyclopedia.
Moreover if every religion decides to choose a symbol since it appears in the Bible,can we conclude that all such symbols are not forbidden,so far they're not bowing to it?
As for the Watchtower magazine/organization,let's keep that in a cooler for now because the organization has revised their translation of the Bible several time in the past so we'll discuss about them later. For now let us fully concentrate on what the God's law says and how we can uphold it! Good morning Sir
Encyclopedia again. You can't even use bible to support your doctrine. You have to use secular sources to even make your doctrines. Lol

Encyclopedia made by secular/worldly/wicked/pagans that's what you rely on. Shame on you.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(op): 4:41pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
That's somehow a difficult one to solve. Because the Cross is a symbol of worship initiated by the Roman Catholics Church, according to the encyclopedia.
Moreover if every religion decides to choose a symbol since it appears in the Bible,can we conclude that all such symbols are not forbidden,so far they're not bowing to it?
Whatever symbol of worship that replaces the worship of the Almighty God in our hearts is forbidden according to God's Moral Law.

Maximus69:
As for the Watchtower magazine/organization,let's keep that in a cooler for now because the organization has revised their translation of the Bible several time in the past so we'll discuss about them later. For now let us fully concentrate on what the God's law says and how we can uphold it! Good morning Sir
Those who put their trust in the ever-changing Watchtower magazine/organisation instead of the never-changing Word of God are breaking the Moral Law of God. Good afternoon. smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:57pm On Feb 28, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Whatever symbol of worship that replaces the worship of the Almighty God in our hearts is forbidden according to God's Moral Law.



Those who put their trust in the ever-changing Watchtower magazine/organisation instead of the never-changing Word of God are breaking the Moral Law of God. Good afternoon. smiley
Hmmm that means the use of cross is also forbidden!
That is clear now. Please where did all these churches get the cross symbol? Because according to the history of Rome the instrument of torture that they do use for criminals in ancient times is not two poles set across the other. The question i found the answer to in the encyclopedia Britannica is 'what word then was translated 'cross' in the KJV?' Answer~ The churches inserted the 'cross' in replacement of the Greek text that rightfully means stick or pole!
So please what do you have to say about all the religions using the cross symbol in anyway,since it's origin is from the pagan Roman Catholic Church?
Please i never forget the topic of your thread,so i'm just trying to know your personal opinion on these matters. The Watchtower will need to explain why some of their understanding of the scriptures are revised from time to time,though i have asked them this question and they have given me heartwarming as in convincing answers. So if you feel like asking them you can approach any of them, if you ask me i can divulge what i got from them. But bear in mind that it's their reason that i found logical not what i formed myself!
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 7:20pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm that means the use of cross is also forbidden!
That is clear now. Please where did all these churches get the cross symbol? Because according to the history of Rome the instrument of torture that they do use for criminals in ancient times is not two poles set across the other. The question i found the answer to in the encyclopedia Britannica is 'what word then was translated 'cross' in the KJV?' Answer~ The churches inserted the 'cross' in replacement of the Greek text that rightfully means stick or pole!
So please what do you have to say about all the religions using the cross symbol in anyway,since it's origin is from the pagan Roman Catholic Church?
Please i never forget the topic of your thread,so i'm just trying to know your personal opinion on these matters. The Watchtower will need to explain why some of their understanding of the scriptures are revised from time to time,though i have asked them this question and they have given me heartwarming as in convincing answers. So if you feel like asking them you can approach any of them, if you ask me i can divulge what i got from them. But bear in mind that it's their reason that i found logical not what i formed myself!
They got the use from encyclopedia.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 7:47pm On Feb 28, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
They got the use from encyclopedia.
Thanks Sir,but can you help avoid 'emotional blackmail' by staying away from my posts?
This is between myself and Mr olaadegbu and it's been a tactful discussion not an 'emotional blackmail'.
So please try to be a man of dignity by keeping to your own warnings,i believe you deserve the respect of one and all if you respect yourself by not doing to others what you won't accept!

Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:05pm On Feb 28, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
Encyclopedia again. You can't even use bible to support your doctrine. You have to use secular sources to even make your doctrines. Lol

Encyclopedia made by secular/worldly/wicked/pagans that's what you rely on. Shame on you.
Do you realise i never noticed this?
Please Mr Hairyrapunzel,i beg you for the sake of peace to respect yourself by avoiding my post.
You're full of uncontrolled emotions and anger,so it's a sin engaging you in discussions since you get easily offended even at the slightest remarks,sorry sir i'm not your type,i respect other people's opinions and i'll love to be respected no matter what i choose to do with my life whether morals,religious or social life!

Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 8:19pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
Do you realise i never noticed this?
Please Mr Hairyrapunzel,i beg you for the sake of peace to respect yourself by avoiding my post.
You're full of uncontrolled emotions and anger,so it's a sin engaging you in discussions since you get easily offended even at the slightest remarks,sorry sir i'm not your type,i respect other people's opinions and i'll love to be respected no matter what i choose to do with my life whether morals,religious or social life!
So it's paining you I said you get your doctrines from encyclopedia lol. You never start. If I see something not right in your post I will call you out. All your doctrines are gotten from encyclopedia. Come and beat me for saying this. You can't even use the Bible to support your encyclopedia doctrine.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 8:24pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
Thanks Sir,but can you help avoid 'emotional blackmail' by staying away from my posts?
This is between myself and Mr olaadegbu and it's been a tactful discussion not an 'emotional blackmail'.
So please try to be a man of dignity by keeping to your own warnings,i believe you deserve the respect of one and all if you respect yourself by not doing to others what you won't accept!
Because I called you out for trying to emotionally blackmail me lol. You never see anything. We were talking about another thing you brought up family members being in your cult and me not being able to do anything about it. You tried to mock me, emotionally blackmail me and shut me up immediately I told you my family and friends are not jws you became angry. Lol. You never start.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:42pm On Feb 28, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
So it's paining you I said you get your doctrines from encyclopedia lol. You never start. If I see something not right in your post I will call you out. All your doctrines are gotten from encyclopedia. Come and beat me for saying this. You can't even use the Bible to support your encyclopedia doctrine.
Sir, i've been trained{though not yet a member} by devoted members of JWs on how to maintain calmness and control my emotions in the face of any events. So there is nothing you can say that can change my mood from blissful to bitterness,i'm only afraid of engaging someone who can't control his emotions simply because of other people's resolve on religious beliefs!
If you're really ready for a open discuss without getting emotional or easily infiltrated surely i'll be glad to chat tactfully with you.
It's not my father that founded the watchtower,neither is it a family heritage. I chose to become one of them after a lengthy study that lasted over eight months,now that i'm trying to learn one or two things from other religious groups as they're not self-sacrificing like JWs that has taken the pain of coming to my place to study the Bible with me 'face to face', if you have something worthwhile to say please your contribution is welcomed but i won't accept a discuss from someone who gets easily angered emotionally because religious intolerance has led many to early grave,been killed or end up killing themselves!
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 8:54pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
Sir, i've been trained{though not yet a member} by devoted members of JWs on how to maintain calmness and control my emotions in the face of any events. So there is nothing you can say that can change my mood from blissful to bitterness,i'm only afraid of engaging someone who can't control his emotions simply because of other people's resolve on religious beliefs!
If you're really ready for a open discuss without getting emotional or easily infiltrated surely i'll be glad to chat tactfully with you.
It's not my father that founded the watchtower,neither is it a family heritage. I chose to become one of them after a lengthy study that lasted over eight months,now that i'm trying to learn one or two things from other religious groups as they're not self-sacrificing like JWs that has taken the pain of coming to my place to study the Bible with me 'face to face', if you have something worthwhile to say please your contribution is welcomed but i won't accept a discuss from someone who gets easily angered emotionally because religious intolerance has led many to early grave,been killed or end up killing themselves!
Why will you bring up someone's family and friends being in a cult and the person not being able to do anything about it when it's not the topic of discussion?

Abeg park well. Next time bring up issues in the right manner. Is it still paining you my family or my friends are not in your cult?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:59pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
if you have something worthwhile to say please your contribution is welcomed but i won't accept a discuss from someone who gets easily angered emotionally because religious intolerance has led many to early grave,been killed or end up killing themselves!
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa
Maximus69,abeg you for God's sake don't go further to discuss anything with Hairyrapunzels ooooooooo! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Can't you perceive he almost got a cardiac arrest during your last encounter with him? undecided undecided undecided
Unless if you want the heavens to include your name in the list of those who killed others with the shock of emotional injuries! huh huh huh
Abeg ignore him,your type will kill him slowly because others have been giving him something to boost his psychopathic brains but your own posts is dragging his stubborn head into early grave. Please let him be,just pretend he doesn't exist! wink wink wink
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:02pm On Feb 28, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
Why will you bring up someone's family and friends being in a cult and the person not being able to do anything about it when it's not the topic of discussion?

Abeg park well. Next time bring up issues in the right manner. Is it still paining you my family or my friends are not in your cult?
Thanks Sir really i appreciate. God bless you!
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:04pm On Feb 28, 2019
TATIME:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa
Maximus69,abeg you for God's sake don't go further to discuss anything with Hairyrapunzels ooooooooo! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Can't you perceive he almost got a cardiac arrest during your last encounter with him? undecided undecided undecided
Unless if you want the heavens to include your name in the list of those who killed others with the shock of emotional injuries! huh huh huh
Abeg ignore him,your type will kill him slowly because others have been giving him something to boost his psychopathic brains but your own posts is dragging his stubborn head into early grave. Please let him be,just pretend he doesn't exist! wink wink wink
Hmmm Good evening Sir! smiley smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(op): 11:09pm On Feb 28, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm that means the use of cross is also forbidden!
Depending on what you use it for.

Maximus69:
That is clear now. Please where did all these churches get the cross symbol? Because according to the history of Rome the instrument of torture that they do use for criminals in ancient times is not two poles set across the other. The question i found the answer to in the encyclopedia Britannica is 'what word then was translated 'cross' in the KJV?' Answer~ The churches inserted the 'cross' in replacement of the Greek text that rightfully means stick or pole!
Let me ask you some questions. Between the Holy Scriptures and the Watchtower magazine, which one will you trust to save your soul from eternal destruction?

Maximus69:
So please what do you have to say about all the religions using the cross symbol in anyway,since it's origin is from the pagan Roman Catholic Church?
I refer you back to the point of reference, Exodus 20:4, which does not prohibit us from having pictures or statuary in general, it is only when you replace the worship of the Creator with the worship of His creation or some created things in the creation such as the Crucifix or Cross. See Romans 1:21-25 for clarification. The problem comes when you place the words of the Watchtower/organisation over and above the unchanging word of God which makes you to begin to modify or doubt the written word of God.

Maximus69:
Please i never forget the topic of your thread,so i'm just trying to know your personal opinion on these matters. The Watchtower will need to explain why some of their understanding of the scriptures are revised from time to time,though i have asked them this question and they have given me heartwarming as in convincing answers. So if you feel like asking them you can approach any of them, if you ask me i can divulge what i got from them. But bear in mind that it's their reason that i found logical not what i formed myself!
Since their reason seems logical to you then tell me, where did Pilate place the writings over Jesus when He was being crucified?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 11:46pm On Feb 28, 2019
TATIME:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa
Maximus69,abeg you for God's sake don't go further to discuss anything with Hairyrapunzels ooooooooo! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Can't you perceive he almost got a cardiac arrest during your last encounter with him? undecided undecided undecided
Unless if you want the heavens to include your name in the list of those who killed others with the shock of emotional injuries! huh huh huh
Abeg ignore him,your type will kill him slowly because others have been giving him something to boost his psychopathic brains but your own posts is dragging his stubborn head into early grave. Please let him be,just pretend he doesn't exist! wink wink wink
See someone that is calling another person psychopath. You that lives for your jehovah coming to slaughter people because they didn't join watchtower organization and obey the gb. Lol
Last last all of us will die and be buried This is real life
But one thing I can assure you is that Armageddon and paradise earth ain't real. In other words they are imaginary.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 2:31am On Mar 01, 2019
Janosky:
Crooked LIAR & twister , bring proof here that Jehovah's witnesses taught you that Gen1:26 referred strictly " to God and the angels".
false accuser brothel mouth Janosky /OneJ
when i was discussing gen 1:26 long ago and pointed out that the verse was concerning God talking with the Word
a false jw said it was God was talking with the angels
you go back and search for it son of your father satan

Janosky: ** Johnw lying Pharisee & twister, " the Lord possessed Wisdom He didn't create Wisdom", FRAUD !

Yahweh created the one personified as 'Wisdom' in Pro8:22,27, stop twisting the holy scriptures , Jesus himself said he is the "Wisdom of God"(Luke 11:49. Matt23:34. 1cor1:24,30 ).
** Mr LIAR, everyone knows that Prov8:22-30, referenced Jesus Christ, your lie lie no fit change am.
oh duh lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ of no understanding
of course Wisdom in proverbs is the Word Jesus Christ, and the chapter is talking about literal wisdom also, the Wisdom of God, which Jesus is, oh know nothing lying Janosky/OneJ
and truly the word is God, john 1:1, and God is not created oh son of the devil who disbelieves God and is confused as hell


Janosky: **** The same Hebrew word (qanah > To erect ,CREATE, to get, procure, to own, Acquire, Possess"
. Sourced from Strong's Hebrew 7069). in Prov 8:22 is also the same word at Gen4:1"I have GOTTEN a man by Jehovah', Deu32:6"your CREATOR,who MADE you & FORMED you".Gen14:19,22" CREATOR (Possessor). Psalms 139:12.https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/qanah.html.

How did Jehovah Possessed, Acquired ,Created , Procured the spirit being personified as Wisdom in Prov8:22?

Spiritual fraudsters wey dey change & misquote holy scriptures , dey form Christian.
oh duh duh duh know nothing Janosky/OneJ
so using ones brain if you had a brain and taking the two verses in their context
God created(qanah) cain for eve, gen 4:1
and God posessed(qanah) wisdom, pro 8:22, God didn't create wisdom, God always posessed wisdom who became flesh oh know nothing
Janosky/oneJ of no understanding and disbelieving God, and great false accuser like yout father the devil:

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 3:34am On Mar 01, 2019
lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/oneJ
Jesus created everything in heaven and in earth, so He clearly didn't create Himself, stupidity brain:

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 

Jesus is before all things, so He of course is before the angels, oh false teacher and twister of God's word Janosky/OneJ:

Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.



Jesus is before all things, He created the angels and all things that were created

and you lying false jw's say the Word Jesus was created and is a angel and is a god

so evil like your daddy devil:

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:38am On Mar 01, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Depending on what you use it for.



Let me ask you some questions. Between the Holy Scriptures and the Watchtower magazine, which one will you trust to save your soul from eternal destruction?
We all know that the only reference book for authentic information about everlasting life is the holy scriptures, but when it comes to facts we can't help it than to gather proofs from other secular historical books to get it.
The Bible wasn't written originally in english,therefore all the translations available today must be subjected to scrutiny if we want to know the TRUTH which was penned down by those first century Jews. One thing i've discovered so far is that there is lesser or virtually no disagreements on the Hebrew~Aramaic scriptures{Old Testament},most of the contradictions is found in the Christian Greek scriptures{New Testament}
I believe we need not to put our complete trust in any of today's translation until we compare the texts with facts from ancient events.
Pilate wrote something and placed it above Jesus' head and no translation dispute that,so it's simple that what was written could have been hung on anything like a nail or tied to the pole.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:51am On Mar 01, 2019
Please Olaadegbu, anybody who wants to know the truth can check the real meaning of 'Stauros' which means a straight pole,plank or stake.
The traditional 'Cross' was deliberately used as a translation of 'Stauros' to support the worship of the Cross which was an ancient deity on it's own!

Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 9:54am On Mar 01, 2019
Maximus69:
Please Olaadegbu, anybody who wants to know the truth can check the real meaning of 'Stauros' which means a straight pole,plank or stake.
The traditional 'Cross' was deliberately used as a translation of 'Stauros' to support the worship of the Cross which was an ancient deity on it's own!
Gbam !
Very true & correct. kudos to you.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 10:42am On Mar 01, 2019
Janosky:
Gbam !
Very true & correct. kudos to you.
Hi Janosky, i'm also a Bible student humbly learning from grabbing the skirt of the spiritual Jews.
I've noticed how many so called JWs have argued tirelessly on threads like this,but to be candid does the argument really worth it?
During my study with a Bible study conductor who happens to be an elder and RP i asked him questions based on so many topic of debates on NL,he discovered most my questions aren't coming from the materials we're using as Bible study aids. So he asked tactfully 'where are these questions coming from?'
I told him everything i've been seeing on NL,then he said something shocking 'the GB has STRICTLY warned all JWs to desist from on going arguments on social media'
This really shocked me so i asked him 'what about those brothers and sisters getting involved in such?' then he said most of you are either half baked JWs or interested persons like me.
So i decided to participate in the debates but not to argue with anyone. Please are you also an interested person? Because he said the order to desist from on going arguments on social media is direct from the GB!

Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:45am On Mar 01, 2019
johnw47:
lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/oneJ
Jesus created everything in heaven and in earth, so He clearly didn't create Himself, stupidity brain:

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 

Jesus is before all things, so He of course is before the angels, oh false teacher and twister of God's word Janosky/OneJ:

Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.



Jesus is before all things, He created the angels and all things that were created

and you lying false jw's say the Word Jesus was created and is a angel and is a god
Crooked spiritual fraudster, "the Head of Christ is God" 1Cor11:3.

Mumu Pharisee, Jesus said "the scriptures can not be broken... I am God's son" John 10:34-36.

Why did you omit Col1:13-15 , ("The Father... transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love.... (who is ) the exact likeness of the unseen God. He is the first born of ALL creation" (( in other words, "Lord Jehovah created me", ( his son Jesus) at the beginning of his creation and from before ALL of his works",Prov 8:22 ))
those verses DESTROYED your twisted ,WAYO interpretation of Col1:16,17.

**** Again, 1Cor 15:24-27 further DESTROYED your twisted ,WAYO interpretation of Col1:16,17.

"vs16.... All things were created and exist THROUGH him ((Greek "Dia autou " is also the same exact word in John 1:3)). It rhymes with Pro8;27, " I was there when HE Jehovah established the heavens...
v30"Then I was the craftsman at his side"

*** "By him" is a cheap FRAUD to distort the scriptures.

** Spiritual fraudster dey twist & import wayo ideas & fake interpretation into the holy Bible.

*** Prov30:6 & Rev 22:18,19 still dey ring alarm to you.

** Like I told you before, coming to a JW thread was your gross error.
Your Trinity scam done scatter & fall yakata..

*** Last last, come and twist & dey misquote John 8:44.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky:
Maximus69:
Hi Janosky, i'm also a Bible student humbly learning from grabbing the skirt of the spiritual Jews.
I've noticed how many so called JWs have argued tirelessly on threads like this,but to be candid does the argument really worth it?
During my study with a Bible study conductor who happens to be an elder and RP i asked him questions based on so many topic of debates on NL,he discovered most my questions aren't coming from the materials we're using as Bible study aids. So he asked tactfully 'where are these questions coming from?'
I told him everything i've been seeing on NL,then he said something shocking 'the GB has STRICTLY warned all JWs to desist from on going arguments on social media'
This really shocked me so i asked him 'what about those brothers and sisters getting involved in such?' then he said most of you are either half baked JWs or interested persons like me.
So i decided to participate in the debates but not to argue with anyone. Please are you also an interested person? Because he said the order to desist from on going arguments on social media is direct from the GB!
Maximus69, thank you for your candid observation.
** Of a truth, JWs on this forum has has presented a great witness to members of the public whom we may not be opportune to meet during our door to door ministry or street witnessing.
Some one some where out there would definitely read our posts & this could kindle their interest to learn more & eventually come to an accurate knowledge of the truth....
Never say never, my brother....

** Online forums have both positive & negative aspects to it.
However, we use the world but not to the full,not being too engrossed in it (1 cor 7:31).
Self discipline is our virtue...


JWs on this forum are NOT "half baked",we are well grounded in the truth of Jehovah's word & speaking for myself & hopefully for others, in good standing in Jehovah's service & the Christian congregation.
To clarify this matter you raised, I would later share a link to jw.org ,
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014524
I'd like you to read thoroughly & prayerfully. (pls pay particular attention to paragraph 10).
Thank you.
Jah bless you , my fellow brother.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 1:02pm On Mar 01, 2019
Janosky:
Maximus69, thank you for your candid observation.
** Of a truth, JWs on this forum has has presented a great witness to members of the public whom we may not be opportune to meet during our door to door ministry or street witnessing.
Some one some where out there would definitely read our posts & this could kindle their interest to learn more & eventually come to an accurate knowledge of the truth....
Never say never, my brother....

** Online forums have both positive & negative aspects to it.
However, we use the world but not to the full,not being too engrossed in it (1 cor 7:31).
Self discipline is our virtue...


JWs on this forum are NOT "half baked",we are well grounded in the truth of Jehovah's word & speaking for myself & hopefully for others, in good standing in Jehovah's service & the Christian congregation.
To clarify this matter you raised, I would later share a link to jw.org ,
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014524
I'd like you to read thoroughly & prayerfully. (pls pay particular attention to paragraph 10).
Thank you.
Jah bless you , my fellow brother.
Hmmm that's really thoughtful! So is it true that the GB has sometimes sent a warning to all devoted JWs to desist from on going arguments on social media?
Truthfully speaking,there are many questions i had at first but while following threads like this i got a glimpse of what JWs had then i'll later meet my conductor one on one to be sure of what i've seen on NL.
To be candid JWs have flushed out all the fake religious ideologies and superstitious beliefs that i do carry in my head before now! And i'm really greatful to have you people around. Did you know it was difficult for me to agree that Jesus wasn't executed on a cross?
But after a thorough research ranging from secular history to encyclopedias that i had to let go the idea yet i'm wondering why aren't most people doing research to verify facts? A book i read on paganism answered the question 'Paganism connotes shallow knowledge of deities taught to be divine!' So most people are still practicing paganism since they're not ready to get to the root of certain traditions handed over to them! The irony of this is most of them even claims to be christians pointing accusing fingers at masqueraders who are just like them in sticking to old traditions without thorough scrutiny. undecided
Thanks Janosky, but i won't argue with anyone because i've noticed that many only wish to trade hurtful words and insults,i'll only engage by tactfully asking or answering questions based on my little understanding of the scriptures until i also become a full flesh JW! smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 2:16pm On Mar 01, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm that's really thoughtful! So is it true that the GB has sometimes sent a warning to all devoted JWs to desist from on going arguments on social media?
Truthfully speaking,there are many questions i had at first but while following threads like this i got a glimpse of what JWs had then i'll later meet my conductor one on one to be sure of what i've seen on NL.
To be candid JWs have flushed out all the fake religious ideologies and superstitious beliefs that i do carry in my head before now! And i'm really greatful to have you people around. Did you know it was difficult for me to agree that Jesus wasn't executed on a cross?
But after a thorough research ranging from secular history to encyclopedias that i had to let go the idea yet i'm wondering why aren't most people doing research to verify facts? A book i read on paganism answered the question 'Paganism connotes shallow knowledge of deities taught to be divine!' So most people are still practicing paganism since they're not ready to get to the root of certain traditions handed over to them! The irony of this is most of them even claims to be christians pointing accusing fingers at masqueraders who are just like them in sticking to old traditions without thorough scrutiny. undecided
Thanks Janosky, but i won't argue with anyone because i've noticed that many only wish to trade hurtful words and insults,i'll only engage by tactfully asking or answering questions based on my little understanding of the scriptures until i also become a full flesh JW! smiley
You be jw. Stop acting like you are not and stop lying. Your founder was a free mason he is still your founder.
No be only flushed out fake ideologies and superstitions.

You that your no cross doctrine comes from a sentence in encyclopedia. Mtcheww
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 2:36pm On Mar 01, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
You be jw. Stop acting like you are not and stop lying. Your founder was a free mason he is still your founder.
No be only flushed out fake ideologies and superstitions.

You that your no cross doctrine comes from a sentence in encyclopedia. Mtcheww
Peace! Mr Hairyrapunzel,Peace!! smiley
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