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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 12:33am On Mar 04, 2019
slimderek:
Hello Guys

Where can one get Tbillz
And how much is the minimum.
I’m asking for myself

Thanks
any bank..
minimum varies.. But first bank is 100k


do well to read a few pages at begining to gain more understanding of this business
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by flexyrule(m): 5:38am On Mar 04, 2019
dmniq:


... and you're here looking for potential clients. Wow
Yes. Potential clients and not insults! I don't work for the bank anymore... I've paid my dues in full.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Speedyconnect15: 6:20am On Mar 04, 2019
RealityShot:
Please my big bosses,
someone is lurering me to quit my small job that am using to build my T-bills portfolio and go into gas reselling.


please, does anyone have idea on the viability of gas retail biz?


thank you




P.S.: i read somewhere online that DPR will soon stop cylinder to cylinder retailers

Cylinder to cylinder... You mean all these shops that stay by the roadside?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by flameon2: 10:03am On Mar 04, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
Tb vs land ....i bought a land for 1.5 m put it for sale within 6 month to expirement which one was better (I have long suspected land bussiness was luck and speculative ) it now 2 years about to close deal for 1.8 m ....i have closed sale for .1.9m but buyer didn't pay ....but now 1.8 buyer yet to pay but 90 percent certain...profit is 300 k after 2 years...if I invested same in tb at 13 percent year 1 and 14.5 percent year 2 it will amount to...1.940 m .....profit is 440 k
.....but if I did more aggressive marketing I could have sold 2 m...and if I was smart I would have rent it out for 40 k per anum...

Also factor in Agency cost when purchasing the land, documentations and even transport costs to the land severally to validate authenticity...etc vs walking to the bank or conducting the transcations from the comfort of your home/where ever.

Regards
F
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 11:07am On Mar 04, 2019
Rates GTB this morning ,

87days --10.50%
178 days --12.00%

360 days --12.85

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 11:44am On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:
Rates GTB this morning ,

87days --10.50%
178 days --12.00%

360 days --12.85
disasters

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 11:46am On Mar 04, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
disasters



I think the chances of rates going up 2019 is kind of slim

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by carik(m): 11:47am On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:
Rates GTB this morning ,

87days --10.50%
178 days --12.00%

360 days --12.85

With this,can i just mail my account officer stating my tenor and amount to invest?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 11:49am On Mar 04, 2019
carik:


Can i just mail my account officer stating my tenor and amount to invest?


Yes u can ..I think b4 12pm for todays rate
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 11:52am On Mar 04, 2019
carik:


With this,can i just mail my account officer stating my tenor and amount to invest?


Note-These rates are from GTB , it varies from Bank to Bank
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kamsy4God: 11:53am On Mar 04, 2019
Stanbic ibtc secondary market rates
59days = 8%
206 days= 11.9%
363days = 12.45%
I think I will wait for primary market.
What do you guys think. Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by carik(m): 11:55am On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:



Yes u can ..I think b4 12pm for todays rate

Oops,guess ill miss out o n this.Thought its 3pm everyday like access's

Brov,how do you get this information?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by feelamong(m): 12:00pm On Mar 04, 2019
kamsy4God:
Stanbic ibtc secondary market rates
59days = 8%
206 days= 11.9%
363days = 12.45%
I think I will wait for primary market.
What do you guys think. Thanks

these rates are not smiling anymore.....

Time to look at the those selling down on their sukuk bonds.....one might get as much as 14.5% there

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by carik(m): 12:04pm On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:



Note-These rates are from GTB , it varies from Bank to Bank

Im fully aware.Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 12:09pm On Mar 04, 2019
carik:


Oops,guess ill miss out o n this.Thought its 3pm everyday like access's

Brov,how do you get this information?




Once u have a good relationship with ur acct officer ..U will be good
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 12:12pm On Mar 04, 2019
feelamong:


these rates are not smiling anymore.....

Time to look at the those selling down on their sukuk bonds.....one might get as much as 14.5% there



Yeah , pls Oga Feelamong any info pls update up here regarding the Sukuk bonds

Been a while I saw you at the other side , we re waiting for you to come and cherry pick some stocks grin

Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by carik(m): 12:13pm On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:





Once u have a good relationship with ur acct officer ..U will be good

Cool.I have one with them but not good,just there.

Once in a while convo with them both.

However i have submitted my instructions but some 10 mins past 12 pm ,waiting to see what pops

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kamsy4God: 12:26pm On Mar 04, 2019
Any one with firstbank secondary market rates
Pls share
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kamsy4God: 12:56pm On Mar 04, 2019
Any one with Today's firstbank secondary market rates?
Pls share
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yinkaoke(f): 1:10pm On Mar 04, 2019
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by feelamong(m): 1:17pm On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:




Yeah , pls Oga Feelamong any info pls update up here regarding the Sukuk bonds

Been a while I saw you at the other side , we re waiting for you to come and cherry pick some stocks grin

Thanks

hahahaha..i spend far more time now trading cryptos looking for 10% daily there. Our NSE is too slow for one on the fast lane.

I got a mail from TRW stockbrokers saying they are now selling down on their sukuk bonds at 14.5% discount rates...

I think its a far better deal than what the Tbill has to offer now

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 1:31pm On Mar 04, 2019
feelamong:


hahahaha..i spend far more time now trading cryptos looking for 10% daily there. Our NSE is too slow for one on the fast lane.

I got a mail from TRW stockbrokers saying they are now selling down on their sukuk bonds at 14.5% discount rates...

I think its a far better deal than what the Tbill has to offer now



Yes u re right sir ..Nse is slow at the moment ..Thanks for this info on TRW

Think I can send an email to them ..TRW
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by drotba(m): 2:18pm On Mar 04, 2019
kamsy4God:
Any one with Today's firstbank secondary market rates?
Pls share

345 @ 13%
260 @ 12.8

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skyangel(f): 4:11pm On Mar 04, 2019
lancee:
Rates GTB this morning ,

87days --10.50%
178 days --12.00%

360 days --12.85

kamsy4God:
Stanbic ibtc secondary market rates
59days = 8%
206 days= 11.9%
363days = 12.45%
I think I will wait for primary market.
What do you guys think. Thanks

drotba:

Fbn

345 @ 13%
260 @ 12.8

It seems Stanbic is getting too stingy with rates these days
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 5:07pm On Mar 04, 2019
Speedyconnect15:


Cylinder to cylinder... You mean all these shops that stay by the roadside?
yep
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:09pm On Mar 04, 2019
Instead of accepting under 13% in the secondary market, I would rather wait and trade in the primary market in a week's time. Irrespective of the political atmosphere coupled with market volatility, I doubt with absolute confidence that the primary market rate for the upcoming Tbill transaction would fall below 13.5%. Now, for someone looking to invest about N10m, the extra 0.5%(13.5%primary-13%secondary --just saying) does make a tremendous difference in the long-run; that is if you understand the concept of Time Value of Money(TVM).

This is not to discourage you from investing in the secondary market if your level of uncertainty is high, but if I were you with millions to invest for one year, I would wait till next week, perhaps the benefits are always greater--though I speak from experience, but I stand to be corrected!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jpphilips(m): 7:03pm On Mar 04, 2019
zamirikpo:
Oh oh, I just confuse......my biggest yearly TB investment failed and now stanbic is saying 12% for 358days. Maybe I should do 90days and see if the rates rebound, the fear is it may even be worst by that time.

Locking down now will mean me taking a loss of 600k. Why didn't stanbic just manage the 14.37 Like that eh...

I just confuse, and I have already budgeted and started borrowing to spend in anticipation of a sure deal. I say last last 14% go reach my hand. This life is just funny, anything can just happen anyhow.

I will either open a first bank account and manage their 13.9% or I wait for the next auction with HOPE.

This thing na buhari cause am.....allah.

Try FG promissory notes at 14.5% PA, that will be worth it for you!!
http://zedcrestcapital.com/getattachment/Resources/Market-Daily-Report/FGN-PROMISSORY-NOTE-OFFER/Promissory-Notes-(1).pdf

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TotoNaRubber: 7:07pm On Mar 04, 2019
You made some interesting points and i tried to implement this strategy but unfortunately it didn't work especially when rates are at declining stage. In the end i realised intially investing at the second market would av paid better. This will work better when rates stabilize.

Also, one of the benefits of investing in TB now is to lock in funds as soon as possibly at the highest possible rate with secondary or primary market.

N10m investment is equivalent to N62K for two weeks wait then take into acc primary marker rate by then may hover around 12.5 and then the greatest downfall of bidding at the primary being human error.




Bluecollarguy:
Instead of accepting under 13% in the secondary market, I would rather wait and trade in the primary market in a week's time. Irrespective of the political atmosphere coupled with market volatility, I doubt with absolute confidence that the primary market rate for the upcoming Tbill transaction would fall below 13.5%. Now, for someone looking to invest about N10m, the extra 0.5%(13.5%primary-13%secondary --just saying) does make a tremendous difference in the long-run; that is if you understand the concept of Time Value of Money(TVM).

This is not to discourage you from investing in the secondary market if your level of uncertainty is high, but if I were you with millions to invest for one year, I would wait till next week, perhaps the benefits are always greater--though I speak from experience, but I stand to be corrected!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 7:08pm On Mar 04, 2019
Bluecollarguy:
Instead of accepting under 13% in the secondary market, I would rather wait and trade in the primary market in a week's time. Irrespective of the political atmosphere coupled with market volatility, I doubt with absolute confidence that the primary market rate for the upcoming Tbill transaction would fall below 13.5%. Now, for someone looking to invest about N10m, the extra 0.5%(13.5%primary-13%secondary --just saying) does make a tremendous difference in the long-run; that is if you understand the concept of Time Value of Money(TVM).

This is not to discourage you from investing in the secondary market if your level of uncertainty is high, but if I were you with millions to invest for one year, I would wait till next week, perhaps the benefits are always greater--though I speak from experience, but I stand to be corrected!

I sincerely agree with U, the difference is too much from 14.2 to 13% , I would prefer to take my chances in a forth night, than lock down 13% for a year,

Am not anti buhari but am sure this economy will slip up sooner than later, and the cbn would have to fall back on borrowing. Where all the money flooding the market is coming from,I don't know.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TotoNaRubber: 7:13pm On Mar 04, 2019
Firstly, predicting the wrong rate by either the investor or the bank representative.

Secondly, the bank representative sleeping on duty (this is the greatest).

OvaSabi1:


Please can you explain the nature of the human error that caused the loss?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:45pm On Mar 04, 2019
Confirm emefiele is out and a northerner is coming in. Pray for stability

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