EmperorHarry:

What a long reply to such a simple question. Now I'm not interested in the existence of God.For all I know he may or may not exist.Now same goes to science that says nucleosynthesis occurred after the big bang and the rest is history.But there still seems to be the undefined part of this theory.How did the universe exist before the big bang?.Now that's a level 2 question that the human brain seems to be unable to process.It's like trying to imagine nothingness.There's no way your brain can process it so it creates something your mind can process."Pitch black".But in truth it takes a level 2 being to process what's above it.So in truth if God does exist then he's the only one that can explain how he came into existence.
So this thing we call life from my own point of view is more complicated than the Creator or the big bang theories. And it's essence is one thing that's been neglected for ages(Just do your part to ensure continuity). So I'm not taking any sides until there's a defined level 2 answer to the level 2 questions I keep asking.I'm just here to experience life and play my part like most of the living things currently existing.

jesusjnr:
Ok so you've hinge your whole life, existence and fate etc., on what you call a defined level 2 answers to the level 2 questions you say you keep asking?

EmperorHarry:
So my point is I'm not interested in how and why I exist anymore,So if you try to shove your level 1 intelligence in my face.I'll shove the level 2 questions in your face which is just a defense mechanism .So classify me all you want "Satan zombie"(Did you coin this?)etc it doesn't change how I view my position.I may sound biased sometimes
But I would talk as long as it's not about who's right or wrong about how humans came to be.If I see something that's wrong or takes advantage of others in a way I'm not comfortable with.I'll will TALK whether it's religious or not.

jesusjnr:
At least the myth that it was your not getting answers to your level 2 questions that made you not to take sides has been hence busted.

Yeah! And there's yet another myth that would suffer the same fate before i'm also through with my response, even your submission that there would have been no progress without science,

despite that you keep talking about some figmental level 2 questions or answers(maybe you coined this) unknown to you, even at level 1 there are yet sub levels, and hence your limited extent of even the level 1 knowledge, that the extent to which discoveries have been made via science, has been the extent to which the Creator has permitted for such discoveries to be made in science.

Hence without those permissions there wouldn't have been any progress made by science.

For if you try and research beyond your sentimental limitations, you'd find out that the seed of the harvest you call modern science today can be traced back to Mesopotamia, the first ever civilization of the world.

And if you research further you'd find out the name of Nebuchadnezzar feature as the leader of the first ever civilization.

Now you should have heard also heard of the Biblical King Nebuchadnezzar, so if they say that he was indeed the leader of the first ever civilization, try and research his records in Biblical history.

And if you research further into the lives of those four pioneer scientists, you'd find out that they were not just scientists, but scientists who believed in God. And not just scientists who believed in God reservedly but to the extent that they were willing to sacrifice anything or their everything inclusive of their lives to uphold and defend their belief in God.

So do you think that it was by accident that it the four men that masterminded the first ever civilization of the world and paved the way for today's science were men that feared God to the last drop of their lives?

I call that finger prints of the Creator's input towards bringing science to what it is today, for if you take away the extent of knowledge that was given to those men by God at the time from the equation of science, maybe science would yet be at the level of simple farm implements.

And do you also think that it's by coincidence that despite the overwhelming extent of atheist scientists, that it would be a God fearing Isaac Newton that would be more or less regarded as the greatest scientist of all time?

So my friend you can choose to hold on to what you call level 2 questions, and the figment that without science there would be no progress, but the truth is that the without the input of God the Creators in science, there would be no progress in science.

advocate666:
See them.

Crazy africans spending their time on foreigners' abandoned religions.

EmperorHarry:
It's been a while since I've been this active on the religious section of nairaland.It's gonna get some getting used to.So I may make mistakes,just so you know

jesusjnr:
Don't worry I understand, that's why I gave you enough time to correct them.

Brb with my response but hope you don't make a waste of it.

advocate666:
I am not a Hypo.

Satan is African.

EmperorHarry:

It actually is.Where did I give off the idea it wasn't? It's pretty simple,there's a war raging on about who's theory/belief is correct.I'm just an observer who feels there are other questions that we can't find answers to.So why sit down all day trying to find glaring loopholes exposed and repeated continuously over the years.All I'm doing is waiting for a theory that answers level 2 questions clearly(There's a bunch of them) until then I'm not taking sides.If you have answers then I'm ready to hear them.Hopefully I've been able to clarify my position on this matter.

Now don't read a misleading meaning into my summaries(I can't break it down all at once).Now science speeds up progress cos science asks questions which brings about enlighment and discoveries which in turn paves the way for inventions due to knowledge gained from science.This also has its pros and cons which we are all aware of.
I actually coined that after years of asking and arguing about level 1 related questions.

I strongly disagree with this for the lack of undeniable proof of God's existence. Therefore I can't be made to believe a theory has control over the what happens in this universe until it's proven(Which can easily be done with valid and clear answers to level 2 questions you can never answer.Lol)

Okay?!

They say

If you do, you'd would find out that his ground breaking dispensation in this respect, hinged more or less on these four pioneer scientists namely, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, who were said to be ten times wiser than their peers.

Not all branches of science has to do with the existence of God.Some areas don't give a damn about your theist or atheists beliefs.

Would you link or attribute the destrictive nature of science to the Creator? Or is he only included in the positive achievements

The fact that there are other scientists who aren't theists helping in building human knowledge of the world we live in only points to the fact that what your believe in doesn't affect science.It's largely independent of theism and atheism.

God again making sure that His finger prints are undeniably entrenched in the history of science for those who are willing enough to see it.

I doubt that

For whatever discoveries that are made in science, it has only been made possible by the fact that the Creator has made it discoverable, hence it's actually without the Creator, that there would have been no progress.

jesusjnr2:
My conclusion to this matter is that you have to first prove you are qualified for the next level, by passing the test of the level you are first, and hence proving that you are ready for the next level.

But you have not even been able to prove yourself in your lower level that you currently are, who would even in his right mind think of taking you to the next level?

It's never been about being able to answer those so called level 2 questions that you've kept asking, because there are definitely answers to them, but are you qualified for them by what you've shown with your level 1 knowledge?

For if God who has all the answers to the level 2 questions wants to answer them at all, do you think that it's someone like you that hasn't yet proven yourself before Him with the level 1 knowledge that He's given you, and is just using such as and excuse, that He would give such answers?

I mentioned the four pioneers of science, namely Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, who were made by God to be ten times wiser than their peers, do you think that if they had behaved like you with their level 1 knowledge that they were given, that they would have been qualified to receive more?

If you truly want level 2 answers to your level two questions you must needs prove that you'd be able to handle the answer by first of all proving yourself with your level 1 knowledge, for it's only he that is faithful with level 1 knowledge that would be given more.