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What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 8:53am On Feb 14
Sacrifice!

For God so loved the world that He sacrificed.

For Jesus so loved the Father that He sacrificed.

For Jesus so loved His sheep that He sacrificed.

For the disciples of Jesus so loved their Master that they sacrificed.

However a lot of people would beg to differ, as they instead view gifts as a proof of love, and hence when someone gets them a gift, you'd hear them say 'oh this person really loves me' just because of a gift that that person gave to them.

But then they are often disappointed to find out that after receiving such gifts, maybe after the person have gotten what he wanted, the same person that gave them such gifts, which they saw as a proof of love, now begins to trash them, or treat them with little or no respect, and hence as if they are of no value to him.

The reason for that is the truth that a gift is not a proof of love, that's the only explanation as to why someone who gives another a gift, could yet treat the same person with so much disrespect or disdain despite giving them a gift.

For instance, if a man has a billion naira of raw cash, and gives a lady just a hundred thousand, or even a million, is that enough to be considered as a proof of his love?

But it is when it begins to get closer to the total amount of what he has, say half of it, or even the full amount, that's the one billion naira he has, that's when you can now begin to talk about it being a proof of love, being it is now transcended beyond the level of a gift, and gotten to that of a sacrifice.

And hence it would be almost impossible for such a man, who after sacrificing so much for a lady as such, to begin to treat the same lady as as though she has no value. Because he has Invested so much, possibly everything he had Into her, hence that extent of investment(sacrifice) on her would reflect in the way he treats her.

A lot of people of today's church claim they love God, and sing all the beautiful love songs to Him in this respect, but then when it comes for them to show the proof of their said love for God, all they usually have to show for it are just gifts.

Hence in spite of their expressions of love for God as such, their actions and decisions proves exactly the otherwise, even that their love for God does not exceed beyond the words of their mouths and lips.

For the extent of what they have given or committed to God, is a true reflection of the value they have placed on Him, therefore since they've only given to Him out of their abundance and what more or less costs them nothing, that reflects in their attitude towards Him, as hence proves the virtually nonexistent extent of their love for Him.

And one other thing that distinguishes the likes of us from most of those today's church, apart from the sacrifices we've made at the level of our walk with God, is the extent of honesty in that respect.

For I can remember once, even after I had assumed walk at this level of the Spirit, when after a while I had begun to have doubts about my love for God, which prompted me to ask myself the question, do I really love God?

But it when I was able to see the sacrifices that I had made on His behalf, that proved to me beyond any doubt that I truly loved God, that if I said I didn't love God, I would be telling a lie.

For the proof of love doesn't lie, for instance all Jesus has to do is to show His pierced hands, and pierced sides, and hence let His sacrifice speak for itself, and thereby prove that He truly loved His Father, and His sheep.

So where is the proof of your love?
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 4:22pm On Feb 14
Sacrifice
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by TheRevivalist(m): 8:28pm On Feb 14
Sacrificial Giving according to John 3:16

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Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 7:31am On Feb 15
TheRevivalist:
Sacrificial Giving according to John 3:16
Seconded
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 8:35am On Feb 16
Pierced hands.
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 9:25am On Feb 17
Where is the proof of your love?
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 7:21am On Feb 18
Where is your sacrifice?
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 8:34am On Feb 19
A sacrifice!
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 7:52pm On Mar 01
Show your proof!
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 8:25am On Mar 02
Do you have any proof to show for your love for God?
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 12:05pm On Mar 03
No more love without proof!
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 2:59pm On Mar 05
I have a proof!
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by advocate666: 3:05pm On Mar 05
God wants you to run around Unclad and foolish. That is no love.
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 7:49am On Mar 06
Add some sacrifice to your love to make it perfect.
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 8:09am On Mar 06
How sad is this thread on a scale of 1-10?! 11! tongue

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Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 8:34am On Mar 06
EmperorHarry:
How sad is this thread on a scale of 1-10?! 11! tongue
Wow! generous of you on a scale of 1-10? 110! cheesy
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 8:57am On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
Wow! generous of you on a scale of 1-10? 110! cheesy
How jobless are you on a scale of 1-10? Error detected grin

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Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 9:27am On Mar 06
EmperorHarry:

How jobless are you on a scale of 1-10? Error detected grin
How employed are you on a scale of 1-10? computer explosion detected! Warning! Please evacuate all the Satan zombies from the Nairaland building in five seconds!

5, 4, 3, 2, 1, POOWWW!

And that was how Satan zombism in nairaland came to an explosive end. grin
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 9:50am On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
How employed are you on a scale of 1-10? computer explosion detected! Warning! Please evacuate all the Satan zombies from the Nairaland building in five seconds!

5, 4, 3, 2, 1, POOWWW!

And that was how Satan zombism in nairaland came to an explosive end. grin
First off you've driven far away from the point of this argument (I thought it was our thing..Lmao) and secondly, what's with the hate? I mean you were determining how employed I was and the next minute executing the extinction of an unknown community.How does that add up? grin

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Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 10:09am On Mar 06
EmperorHarry:

First off you've driven far away from the point of this argument (I thought it was our thing..Lmao) and secondly, what's with the hate? I mean you were determining how employed I was and the next minute executing the extinction of an unknown community.How does that add up? grin
Hate? Lol! Or maybe the vehicle of your judgment forgot that it was driving at the speed of an error message when it exploded into oblivion.

It's not hate for you, but for Satan zombism without which the likes of you would completely jobless.

So if that doesn't add up for you, then maybe it's because the ability to discern in the positive direction has been subtracted from you. grin
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 11:19am On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
Hate? Lol! Or maybe the vehicle of your judgment forgot that it was driving at the speed of an error message when it exploded into oblivion.

It's not hate for you, but for Satan zombism without which the likes of you would completely jobless.

So if that doesn't add up for you, then maybe it's because the ability to discern in the positive direction has been subtracted from you. grin
It still doesn't add up cry
I just wanted you to know how pathetic the thread was cos you kept posting on your thread and I felt sad for you.Seemed all you wanted was a reply and I gave you one.So don't feel my judgement on how sad the thread was is as result of my "Satan zombism".Just saying grin

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Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 12:05pm On Mar 06
EmperorHarry:

It still doesn't add up cry
I just wanted you to know how pathetic the thread was cos you kept posting on your thread and I felt sad for you.Seemed all you wanted was a reply and I gave you one.So don't feel my judgement on how sad the thread was is as result of my "Satan zombism".Just saying grin
Feel sad for the fact my posting on my own thread has been a strategy of mine that reversed the tide of the extent of Satan zombism in Nairaland, both in the respect of satanism and atheism, that it has yielded at least a confirmed of a Nairaland atheist that turned to Jesus, and likely more unconfirmed cases Lol!

For before my coming here the reverse was the case, and i doubt you would have felt sorry the satanists who kept doing same here and made the religion section to seem like a satanism section, until the explosion came in the form of a jesusjnr and the rest as they say is history.

So feel sorry for the fact that the days of atheism an aspect of Satan zombism in nairaland are hence numbered, and that the works of Satan your master would keep the feeling the devastating effect of my continual posting on my threads.

So please I kindly beg of you to keep feeling sorry for me and my posting on my pathetic thread(s) Lol! grin

At least it's given you something doing, otherwise you'd be busy doing nothing Lol! cheesy
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 12:21pm On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
Feel sad for the fact my posting on my own thread has been a strategy of mine that reversed the tide of the extent of Satan zombism in Nairaland, both in the respect of satanism and atheism, that it has yielded at least a confirmed of a Nairaland atheist that turned to Jesus, and likely more unconfirmed cases Lol!

For before my coming here the reverse was the case, and i doubt you would have felt sorry the satanists who kept doing same here and made the religion section to seem like a satanism section, until the explosion came in the form of a jesusjnr and the rest as they say is history.

So feel sorry for the fact that the days of atheism an aspect of Satan zombism in nairaland are hence numbered, and that the works of Satan your master (I literally laughed hard at this would keep the feeling the devastating effect of my continual posting on my threads.

So please I kindly beg of you to keep feeling sorry for me and my posting on my pathetic thread(s) Lol! grin

At least it's given you something doing, otherwise you'd be busy doing nothing Lol! cheesy
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 12:22pm On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
Feel sad for the fact my posting on my own thread has been a strategy of mine that reversed the tide of the extent of Satan zombism in Nairaland, both in the respect of satanism and atheism, that it has yielded at least a confirmed of a Nairaland atheist that turned to Jesus, and likely more unconfirmed cases Lol!

For before my coming here the reverse was the case, and i doubt you would have felt sorry the satanists who kept doing same here and made the religion section to seem like a satanism section, until the explosion came in the form of a jesusjnr and the rest as they say is history.

So feel sorry for the fact that the days of atheism an aspect of Satan zombism in nairaland are hence numbered, and that the works of Satan your master (I literally laughed hard at this) would keep the feeling the devastating effect of my continual posting on my threads.

So please I kindly beg of you to keep feeling sorry for me and my posting on my pathetic thread(s) Lol! grin

At least it's given you something doing, otherwise you'd be busy doing nothing Lol! cheesy
I love your sense of humor tbh.
I hugely commend your conscious effort to purge the religious section of nairaland of "satanic" posts but for how long do you plan to keep this up? And what are your premises for assuming I'm in any of the groups on this section
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 2:09pm On Mar 06
quote author=EmperorHarry post=76398684]
And what are your premises for assuming I'm in any of the groups on this section.[/quote] I think you belong to a Satan zombie(rebellious) group even if not any of the above mentioned because of your comment provided below
EmperorHarry:

I love your sense of humor tbh.
I hugely commend your conscious effort to purge the religious section of nairaland of "satanic" posts but for how long do you plan to keep this up?
Are you kidding me?

Well if you're sincere, thank you.

as for how long, i think i'm gonna stay here even beyond the time of my unveiling, for this platform provided me with the basis to prepare for what's to come, and also an opportunity to test my spiritual prowess to see if it's really as potent as it was initially thought to be.

Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 3:23pm On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
quote author=EmperorHarry post=76398684]
And what are your premises for assuming I'm in any of the groups on this section. I think you belong to a Satan zombie(rebellious) group even if not any of the above mentioned because of your comment provided below
I love your sense of humor tbh.
I hugely commend your conscious effort to purge the religious section of nairaland of "satanic" posts but for how long do you plan to keep this up? Are you kidding me?

Well if you're sincere, thank you.

as for how long, i think i'm gonna stay here even beyond the time of my unveiling, for this platform provided me with the basis to prepare for what's to come, and also an opportunity to test my spiritual prowess to see if it's really as potent as it was initially thought to be.

Well assumptions are incorrect. I'm neither here nor there.I would answered differently early last year but I'm at a point where I don't care what side is correct..Cos either sides have been unable to clarify the undefined
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr2: 4:17pm On Mar 06
EmperorHarry:

Well assumptions are incorrect. I'm neither here nor there.I would answered differently early last year but I'm at a point where I don't care what side is correct..Cos either sides have been unable to clarify the undefined
It's impossible to be neither here nor there, for you are definitely somewhere, either under God zombism or Satan zombism.

But I think I was correct to assume you a satan zombie, especially deducing from your first comment, for it had all the trappings of Satan zombism.

So if i'm wrong and you are not a Satan zombie then you are a God zombie but the chances of that are slim from your comments thus far.

Of course in Satan zombism there are different levels, but rebellion against God is the common denominator.

p.s. a God zombie is a googolplex times better than a Satan zombie! cheesy
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by advocate666: 4:42pm On Mar 06
Why is christianity full of cowards?
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by advocate666: 4:48pm On Mar 06
the god without nipples grin
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 6:56pm On Mar 06
jesusjnr2:
It's impossible to be neither here nor there, for you are definitely somewhere, either under God zombism or Satan zombism.

But I think I was correct to assume you a satan zombie, especially deducing from your first comment, for it had all the trappings of Satan zombism.

So if i'm wrong and you are not a Satan zombie then you are a God zombie but the chances of that are slim from your comments thus far.

Of course in Satan zombism there are different levels, but rebellion against God is the common denominator.

p.s. a God zombie is a googolplex times better than a Satan zombie! cheesy
Well I'd like to think there's a sitting on the fence option which is a litter higher than agnosticism.If I asked you how God came into existence. What would be your "defined" answer?
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by jesusjnr(m): 9:19am On Mar 07
EmperorHarry:

Well I'd like to think there's a sitting on the fence option which is a litter higher than agnosticism.If I asked you how God came into existence. What would be your "defined" answer?
Unfortunately for you bro it's not up to you to determine that.

But the only chance that you may have is that even if you do not believe that God exists, you are not wicked but righteous as He desires men to be, for He had shown Himself to be a respecter of righteousness, so if you have it might just come in handy when your time of reckoning comes.

As for how God came into existence, Lol! cheesy Do you mean that is what has made you to doubt if He existed?

C'mon don't do that to yourself, for that is a baseless reason not to believe in God's existence, otherwise you would also doubt the earth's existence because you do not know how it also came into existence.

But you yet believe the earth exists don't you?

Of course you would say that you have proof of the earth's existence, so that should suffice for you to believe it exists.

But do you believe mars exists also?

If yes, how do you come to that belief?

Did you know how it came into existence, or have you ever been to mars before, felt it with your hands and seen it with your own very eyes to come to that belief?

But you believed the testimony of those who claim to have evidence to prove it's existence. Right?

Of course perhaps they had to show you some of such evidences for you to believe, but then how about Jupiter, mercury, Saturn and the of the planets that they also said existed, but none of their rockets have been able to touch down on as they have successfully done in mars, do you also believe that they exist regardless?

If yes, how did you come to that belief without knowing how they came into existence, or even without the extent of evidence of their existence, as that which made you believe in the existence of mars?

If we keep going at this rate you'd eventually see that you also needed some extent of faith to be able to believe in the existence of certain things, as even though you didn't know how they came into existence, or had tangible evidence to prove their existence, you yet believed they exist because you felt you had gotten enough reason for you to do so.

So brother you want to tell me that you have not gotten enough reason to also believe that God exists, or you want to apply a different criteria because it's now in God's respect?

The truth is that God exists whether you ever believe or not that He does, for just His Creation is enough evidence to prove His existence and enough reason to believe that He exists.

And at some point you would eventually get proof of His existence, but it's up to you to determine if you need to wait for that proof or not for you to believe in Him.

But something you must know is that those who do not wait to see such proof to believe are better than those who do, as Jesus Himself said:

"...Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. John 20:29 (KJV)

So it's you that would ultimately decide which category of believers you fall into, for all men would eventually get to "see" this Truth.

But the greatest problem is that most get to believe when it's already too late.
Re: What Is The Proof Of Love? by EmperorHarry: 12:15pm On Mar 07
jesusjnr:
Unfortunately for you bro it's not up to you to determine that.

But the only chance that you may have is that even if you do not believe that God exists, you are not wicked but righteous as He desires men to be, for He had shown Himself to be a respecter of righteousness, so if you have it might just come in handy when your time of reckoning comes.

As for how God came into existence, Lol! cheesy Do you mean that is what has made you to doubt if He existed?

C'mon don't do that to yourself, for that is a baseless reason not to believe in God's existence, otherwise you would also doubt the earth's existence because you do not know how it also came into existence.

But you yet believe the earth exists don't you?

Of course you would say that you have proof of the earth's existence, so that should suffice for you to believe it exists.

But do you believe mars exists also?

If yes, how do you come to that belief?

Did you know how it came into existence, or have you ever been to mars before, felt it with your hands and seen it with your own very eyes to come to that belief?

But you believed the testimony of those who claim to have evidence to prove it's existence. Right?

Of course perhaps they had to show you some of such evidences for you to believe, but then how about Jupiter, mercury, Saturn and the of the planets that they also said existed, but none of their rockets have been able to touch down on as they have successfully done in mars, do you also believe that they exist regardless?
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What a long reply to such a simple question. Now I'm not interested in the existence of God.For all I know he may or may not exist.Now same goes to science that says nucleosynthesis occurred after the big bang and the rest is history.But there still seems to be the undefined part of this theory.How did the universe exist before the big bang?.Now that's a level 2 question that the human brain seems to be unable to process.It's like trying to imagine nothingness.There's no way your brain can process it so it creates something your mind can process."Pitch black".But in truth it takes a level 2 being to process what's above it.So in truth if God does exist then he's the only one that can explain how he came into existence.
So this thing we call life from my own point of view is more complicated than the Creator or the big bang theories. And it's essence is one thing that's been neglected for ages(Just do your part to ensure continuity). So I'm not taking any sides until there's a defined level 2 answer to the level 2 questions I keep asking.I'm just here to experience life and play my part like most of the living things currently existing.

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