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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by CAPSLOCKED: 2:30pm On Mar 21, 2019

Jcole1985:
Feminism and misogyny are both the same,both parties wanting their mates to hate the opposite sex becuase they are homosexuals.The straight ones are just follow-follow,A true African Woman or Man is not a feminist or misogynist,Same with the Arabs and the Asians.It is only in Europe and America that this thing exist.From experience,copying from Europeans never works out well for others.

YOU'RE IGNORANTLY MISTAKING MISANDRIST FOR FEMINIST, AND YOU'RE DOING NOTHING TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A MAN HATER AND A FREEDOM FIGHTER.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Gentleziggy(m): 3:32pm On Mar 21, 2019

[quote author=lenghtinny post=76842764]Tonto Dike is on the top of the table you are shaking.....

I heard she's started using beard oil in preparation for father's day cheesy

[/quote this nice piece of write up should b forwarded to tonto dikeh and d rest of fellow celebrities who think that their babies can do with out their fatherly care.all d feminists n feminists to b on this forum have suddenly gone mute over this issue.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 4:33pm On Mar 21, 2019

Jcole1985:
So what do I call tonto dikeh,rude CeeCee et al?

Unintelligent women.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 4:35pm On Mar 21, 2019

CAPSLOCKED:
YOU'RE IGNORANTLY MISTAKING MISANDRIST FOR FEMINIST, AND YOU'RE DOING NOTHING TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A MAN HATER AND A FREEDOM FIGHTER.

My hero!

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by generationz(f): 5:19pm On Mar 21, 2019

kushercain:
You have a point but as the mother you should endeavor not to sway your child's emotion against the father because no matter what he is the father. Let the child grow up and come to the conclusion that the father is a deadbeat by him/herself. This is where most women get it wrong, they set it to a battle line, me and my kids against the man. No matter the unspeakable things done by the father mothers should be guided against this.

Then men too should be more responsible and plan ahead before knocking up someone's daughter

Except she is a bad person no woman would destroy her baby daddies image if he supports her through the pregnancy and while the child grows.

They pains that come with being a babymama/babypapa is more than the enjoyment of twenty minutes sex

It is important to loom beyond love and infatuation when choosing your partner. choose someone who can be a partner in raising your kids and not a demon.

You don't expect a woman to tell her child the father is a saint when he treated her badly knowing she was pregnant.

It might seem harsh coming from me but every dead beat father deserves to be seen as a what he is - a deadbeat father

yes let him work hard to clear his image because while he was flexing the woman was going through physical , emotional and financial pains to raise a child

If you are not a woman who has had a baby on her own don't judge them.

Many men think they can just eat their cake and have it right?

deposit your seeds , run and then come back to free hugs.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by generationz(f): 5:26pm On Mar 21, 2019

MissRaine69:
It should be a crime punishable by law for women to keep their children from their fathers after a separation. Married or not. You lay with him why is he “ a jobless idiot after the fact?” If the father of the children does not hurt them, wants to be involved don't fight him using the kids.

We think that we are hurting the man but really it's the kids who suffer. Kids need their father as much as they need their mother. Ladies please keep that in mind when fighting these proxy wars with exes. Kids are for life.

lol

Babe have you had a child?
have you had a child with a demon in disguise?

saying its bad is one thing but saying it should be a crime is another

so a woman would be knocked up, left high and dry to cater for her kids and still go to jail after being betrayed

Its truly a mans world mehn

you don't expect a woman to tell her kids "your daddy is an angel " when even Satan knows the man is his brother.

Me I'm just talking from a place of emphaty

I've seen what useless men have done to young ladies with their lies and deceit.

Forgetting they might have power over that girl while she's a fool and loves him but women always have power when it comes to their kids.

Men should learn to thread carefully to.
Also deadbeat fathers should be thrown in jail.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 5:42pm On Mar 21, 2019

generationz:
lol

Babe have you had a child?
have you had a child with a demon in disguise?

saying its bad is one thing but saying it should be a crime is another

so a woman would be knocked up, left high and dry to cater for her kids and still go to jail after being betrayed

Its truly a mans world mehn

you don't expect a woman to tell her kids "your daddy is an angel " when even Satan knows the man is his brother.

Me I'm just talking from a place of emphaty

I've seen what useless men have done to young ladies with their lies and deceit.

Forgetting they might have power over that girl while she's a fool and loves him but women always have power when it comes to their kids.

Men should learn to thread carefully to.
Also deadbeat fathers should be thrown in jail.

What you do for the child should be in the child’s best interest not because you want to get even. If he wants to be involved despite your past dramas with him, the child comes first.
This is why I struggle with some women, sometimes their inability to be objective.
The majority of women deny access out of spite not because the man has done anything murderously wrong just to “fix him”.

Finally don’t call him dead beat just because he is not doing what you want. You lay with him, he was dead beat then, you just opted not to see that.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 5:45pm On Mar 21, 2019

generationz:
Then men too should be more responsible and plan ahead before knocking up someone's daughter

Except she is a bad person no woman would destroy her baby daddies image if he supports her through the pregnancy and while the child grows.

They pains that come with being a babymama/babypapa is more than the enjoyment of twenty minutes sex

It is important to loom beyond love and infatuation when choosing your partner. choose someone who can be a partner in raising your kids and not a demon.

You don't expect a woman to tell her child the father is a saint when he treated her badly knowing she was pregnant.

It might seem harsh coming from me but every dead beat father deserves to be seen as a what he is - a deadbeat father

yes let him work hard to clear his image because while he was flexing the woman was going through physical , emotional and financial pains to raise a child

If you are not a woman who has had a baby on her own don't judge them.

Many men think they can just eat their cake and have it right?

deposit your seeds , run and then come back to free hugs.

Works both ways, your as a woman are also responsible of what goes in and out of your body. Many women are far too quick to have a kid by men they barely know. Why are you content in being a babymomma?

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by generationz(f): 6:06pm On Mar 21, 2019

MissRaine69:
What you do for the child should be in the child’s best interest not because you want to get even. If he wants to be involved despite your past dramas with him, the child comes first.
This is why I struggle with some women, sometimes their inability to be objective.
The majority of women deny access out of spite not because the man has done anything murderously wrong just to “fix him”.

Finally don’t call him dead beat just because he is not doing what you want. You lay with him, he was dead beat then, you just opted not to see that.

I read through the thread and saw that your brother was involved in this

of course you can't call your brother a bad person ( no one will) and even at that the fact that he got the child at the end with the help of the court says a lot about the mother.

You never answers my first two questions
If you have never personally been in these women's shoes , I mean the ones who have kids for dead beat father's don't judge them

some men think that by bringing lacasera and gala once in months they have a right to that child.
some will even default in paying their share of the bills and have to be pursued around with phone calls before the "drop something"

why not just disappear instead of giving another mans daughter headache.

funmistiqueen already stated what full involvement should be like ( except for the chauffeur ish lol) if he can't provide let him just waka go

Being a dad is more than depositing semen and coming after 18 years to claim a grown up.

As long as there are men who think they can eat their cake and have it there will always be bitter women.

That's a fact.

I believe you live abroad? you should see what single mothers and some married women with kids go through in this lawless misogynistic country.
Then maybe you would still say a mother after suffering being broken and battered should be thrown in jail.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by generationz(f): 6:15pm On Mar 21, 2019

MissRaine69:
Works both ways, your as a woman are also responsible of what goes in and out of your body. Many women are far too quick to have a kid by men they barely know. Why are you content in being a babymomma?

Yes , a woman should be careful whom she frolics with because she bears the pains of being a babymama more than the man.

However when a child is involved both are to ensure they give 100% to their kids well being.

You can't just take to your heels and after a few years return as if nothing happened. You don't even do anything to pacify the hurt woman all we hear is ' I want my son ' ' I want my daughter '

Pray Tell me, why is it that those rich Nigerian men who marry more than one wives don't have kids who resent them.

Because they know they are smart enough to put systems down in place to cater for these kids and their mums before the kids are even born.

A man will bring gala, Chin chin and coke once in a month and say he has rights.
thunder fire rights.

I won't discuss on this issue again. its clear we both have different views based on different experiences.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by kushercain: 6:34pm On Mar 21, 2019

MissRaine69:
I was referring to your existence. Not your skill.

Good Lord! shocked

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by kushercain: 6:39pm On Mar 21, 2019

@ generationz let me recommend a movie to you; Fireproof.

The mother in that movie should be your case study. At the end she got the respect and love of her son.

The fact is that children need their father. Abraham blessed Isaac, Isaac blessed Jacob etc not the mothers.

I still repeat mothers shouldn't bad mouth fathers to the kids, not saying she should paint beautiful pictures or tell lies but it's better not to say anything whether good or bad.

Cheers!

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 7:23pm On Mar 21, 2019

generationz:
I read through the thread and saw that your brother was involved in this

of course you can't call your brother a bad person ( no one will) and even at that the fact that he got the child at the end with the help of the court says a lot about the mother.

You never answers my first two questions
If you have never personally been in these women's shoes , I mean the ones who have kids for dead beat father's don't judge them

some men think that by bringing lacasera and gala once in months they have a right to that child.
some will even default in paying their share of the bills and have to be pursued around with phone calls before the "drop something"

why not just disappear instead of giving another mans daughter headache.

funmistiqueen already stated what full involvement should be like ( except for the chauffeur ish lol) if he can't provide let him just waka go

Being a dad is more than depositing semen and coming after 18 years to claim a grown up.

As long as there are men who think they can eat their cake and have it there will always be bitter women.

That's a fact.

I believe you live abroad? you should see what single mothers and some married women with kids go through in this lawless misogynistic country.
Then maybe you would still say a mother after suffering being broken and battered should be thrown in jail.

I have lived in Western counties and I have lived in third world countries
If my brother was dead beat then yes I would call him dead beat because that’s what he is if that was the case. I won’t take his side just because he is my brother I don’t function in the stereotypical histrionic way.

He made it clear he did not want to get married, the girl knew this from the start. She got pregnant made her conditions known he still refused.
She then moved and would not allow him access. He paid for all her prenatal and postnatal care but that condition did not shift.

Children do not remain children forever they grow up and form their own opinions. Regardless of how their father was to their mother they can grow up to be closer to that parent they were trained to hate.That’s my angle.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 7:28pm On Mar 21, 2019

generationz:
Yes , a woman should be careful whom she frolics with because she bears the pains of being a babymama more than the man.

However when a child is involved both are to ensure they give 100% to their kids well being.

You can't just take to your heels and after a few years return as if nothing happened. You don't even do anything to pacify the hurt woman all we hear is ' I want my son ' ' I want my daughter '

Pray Tell me, why is it that those rich Nigerian men who marry more than one wives don't have kids who resent them.

Because they know they are smart enough to put systems down in place to cater for these kids and their mums before the kids are even born.

A man will bring gala, Chin chin and coke once in a month and say he has rights.
thunder fire rights.

I won't discuss on this issue again. its clear we both have different views based on different experiences.

So if this was a professional setting, you would throw your dummy out of the pram and refuse to engage just because we differ?
How about being objective?
Or is that mission impossible?

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Preshy561(f): 7:33pm On Mar 21, 2019

If only ladies should start avoiding this woman's senseless topics.
Trying to rub yourself together with a sinile pig.

Ladies, who are trying too hard to impact sense on this woman are just pouring water on a dry lifeless stone.

I only came here to admonish sensible ladies trying too hard to let you have at least, 1% of sense.

Out#

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Nobody: 7:45pm On Mar 21, 2019

Preshy561:
If only ladies should start avoiding this woman's senseless topics.
Trying to rub yourself together with a sinile pig.

Ladies, who are trying too hard to impact sense on this woman are just pouring water on a dry lifeless stone.

I only came here to admonish sensible ladies trying too hard to let you have at least, 1% of sense.

Out#

Her level goes over your head and one day you will grow up and understand what a real woman looks and sounds like.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 7:59pm On Mar 21, 2019

lenghtinny:
Tonto Dike is on the top of the table you are shaking.....

I heard she's started using beard oil in preparation for father's day

No all woman are just vagina and nothing else.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by IsiahRashad(m): 8:04pm On Mar 21, 2019

Preshy561:
If only ladies should start avoiding this woman's senseless topics.
Trying to rub yourself together with a sinile pig.

Ladies, who are trying too hard to impact sense on this woman are just pouring water on a dry lifeless stone.

I only came here to admonish sensible ladies trying too hard to let you have at least, 1% of sense.

Out#

This one is obviously still immature

Please keep your vapid, vacuous logic and stay out

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 8:06pm On Mar 21, 2019

Preshy561:
If only ladies should start avoiding this woman's senseless topics.
Trying to rub yourself together with a sinile pig.

Ladies, who are trying too hard to impact sense on this woman are just pouring water on a dry lifeless stone.

I only came here to admonish sensible ladies trying too hard to let you have at least, 1% of sense.

Out#

I love you too.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by ILLarii: 10:50pm On Mar 21, 2019

MissRaine69:
It’s because of being raised by feminist parents I am able to be objective. Feminism has nothing to do with undermining the importance of a father figure in a child’s life. The feminism you speak against I am not familiar with.

Please can u enlighten me on what ur own feminism is all about
Cos I see feminism as a form of intimidation to men take example of the 2019 Grammy awards .that's pure intimidation

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 11:43pm On Mar 21, 2019

ILLarii:
Please can u enlighten me on what ur own feminism is all about
Cos I see feminism as a form of intimidation to men take example of the 2019 Grammy awards .that's pure intimidation

Recognition based on merit, promotion based on merit, progress and access to the same institutions men attend based on merit. Don’t exclude me because I am female or pass me over for promotion because I have a vagina.
The same pay a man gets for doing th exact same job should be the same when it comes to a woman.

If I go for a job interview the offer of a job should be based on my experience and ability to perform what I am being interviewed for not being employed because the boss might want to ask for a sexual favour at some point.

Educating a boy child, should have the same level of importance as education a girl child. All children regardless of gender should do house chores. A boy child should be allowed to express his emotions, how else will he learn empathy? A boy child should be taught or raised to expect his sisters to pay servitude to him. All children should feel wanted not discriminated against, or taken out of school because they won’t amount for nothing. That is the fate of the girl child.

Gender based violence affects the girl child more than it does her brother.

A daughter having a healthy relationship with her father moulds her perspective of life in a very positive way.

Malcolm X once said “One thing that I became aware of in my traveling recently through Africa and the Middle East, in every country that you go to, usually the degree of progress can never be separated from the woman.

“If you are in country that’s progressive, the woman is progressive. If you are in a country that reflects the consciousness toward the importance of education, it is because the woman is aware of the importance of education. But in every backward country you’ll find the women are backward, and in every country where education is not stressed it’s because the women don’t have education“

Now tell me that’s not true in Regards certain quarters of Nigeria where child brides are the norm. Sexual assaults on female children is the norm. A child having a child, how is that progressive?

Now these “feminists that go on about washing dishes and doing laundry, man hating and “I can do good by myself!” I have no issues with that but educate yourself first. Understand a cause not twist it to suit an agenda.
Feminism is such a dirty word in Nigeria only because the worst examples of woman profess to be one.

Shout out to the women who work in sectors that woman were not “allowed” to work in on account that it was not a job women could or should do. Just as Funmilayo Anikulapo-Kuti died for believing woman mattered and they should not be pigeon holed. Feminism has always been present in African society. How else would we have Queens who ruled lands? How else would we have female warriors?

Religion is what’s corrupted our society not feminism.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Nobody: 12:00am On Mar 22, 2019

MissRaine69:
It should be a crime punishable by law for women to keep their children from their fathers after a separation. Married or not. You lay with him why is he “ a jobless idiot after the fact?” If the father of the children does not hurt them, wants to be involved don't fight him using the kids.

We think that we are hurting the man but really it's the kids who suffer. Kids need their father as much as they need their mother. Ladies please keep that in mind when fighting these proxy wars with exes. Kids are for life.

I never wanted to believe but you're truly unbiased as some peeps say and I love you for that. Ehmmm, not that kind of love biko, don't report me to your husband before he beat me. cheesy

Seriously, kudos for reasoning like you do.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 3:26am On Mar 22, 2019

MajorJeffery:
I never wanted to believe but you're truly unbiased as some peeps say and I love you for that. Ehmmm, not that kind of love biko, don't report me to your husband before he beat me.
Seriously, kudos for reasoning like you do.

The kudos will be passed on to my parents, it is because of them I am who I am.
Thank you, just so you know you have not been reported.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Bossjakande: 3:32am On Mar 22, 2019

MissRaine69:
The kudos will be passed on to my parents, it is because of them I am who I am.
Thank you, just so you know you have not been reported.

IBO beauty

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by generationz(f): 6:02pm On Mar 22, 2019

MissRaine69:
So if this was a professional setting, you would throw your dummy out of the pram and refuse to engage just because we differ?
How about being objective?
Or is that mission impossible?

loool

Madam you sha wan argue?

I don't have to go back and forth on my opinion
I stated my opinion and you failed to convince me with yours
so wetin you want again?

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Nobody: 1:43am On Mar 23, 2019

Biglittlelois:
@bolded is what I'd never agree on, two people had unprotected sex, no party was hijacked into anything, once unprotected sex is involved, the unexpected should be expected, a guy that wants to be involved will not deny the pregnancy at first, he will be a man and accept it in good faith, my point is he should accept ownership of the pregnancy and be responsible after the birth.

Its not as simple. It has to be done with mutual consent. Every lady dating must be able to identify a would be dead beat and insist on protection especially in times of delayed menstrual flow tru his displayed countenance.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 9:30am On Mar 23, 2019

generationz:
loool

Madam you sha wan argue?

I don't have to go back and forth on my opinion
I stated my opinion and you failed to convince me with yours
so wetin you want again?

There is is nothing progressive when two females cannot reach a consensus. I am not here to insult you or argue with you, it was meant to be a discussion not an argument.
Have a nice weekend.

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by generationz(f): 10:09pm On Mar 23, 2019

MissRaine69:
There is is nothing progressive when two females cannot reach a consensus. I am not here to insult you or argue with you, it was meant to be a discussion not an argument.
Have a nice weekend.

lool

whether its a discussion or not what matters is respect for the other party's opinion even when you don't agree with them

You know why - perspective

we all see things from different perspective. when you have an open mind even if you don't agree with the other person you can learn a thing or two from their point of view.

A lovely weekend to you too.

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Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 10:16pm On Mar 23, 2019

generationz:
lool

whether its a discussion or not what matters is respect for the other party's opinion even when you don't agree with them

You know why - perspective

we all see things from different perspective. when you have an open mind even if you don't agree with the other person you can learn a thing or two from their point of view.

A lovely weekend to you too.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sure

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by Nobody: 11:28pm On Mar 23, 2019

MissRaine69:
It should be a crime punishable by law for women to keep their children from their fathers after a separation. Married or not. You lay with him why is he “ a jobless idiot after the fact?” If the father of the children does not hurt them, wants to be involved don't fight him using the kids.

We think that we are hurting the man but really it's the kids who suffer. Kids need their father as much as they need their mother. Ladies please keep that in mind when fighting these proxy wars with exes. Kids are for life.

MissRaine69 my beautiful Angel have u not heard that
All is fair in Love and War

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by ubunja(m): 11:44pm On Mar 23, 2019

MissRaine69:
A complimensult.
I will take it.

why am I seeing this word for the first time huh

Re: This Will Upset Some People And Accusations Will Fly But, by MissRaine69(op): 11:45pm On Mar 23, 2019

ike24:
MissRaine69 my beautiful Angel have u not heard that
All is fair in Love and War

The children are casualties.....

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