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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kay9(m): 9:54pm On Apr 15, 2019
Semtu:


When did she pay for the unsullied?.. In your dreams?... Lol, if you have forgotten how it all went down, please don't come here and stay saying rubbish.

The Dothraki believes in leadership by contest. Was there any contest in this case?... The answer is NO. The Dothraki only feared her, seeing her walk unscathed through the fire while the other Khals were engulfed by it. undecided

You are wrong.

She paid for the entire squads of trained Unsullied PLUS the still-in-training ones with ONE dragon - Drogon. She handed the dragon to the slave masters but they couldn't control it; and then they unwisely commented "tell the b!tch her beast won't come", to which Daenerys replied "A dragon is not a slave"... And then Dracarys.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Sultan5(m): 9:54pm On Apr 15, 2019
HanksAnuku:


Bros go and rewatch the episode again

Reek clearly tells Sansa to go back to her room with Miranda.

When Sansa refuses, Reek knows he's in trouble because he would have been personally held responsible.

I had to clip your post because it was completely irrelevant to anything I said.

Lol check your previous posts and get back to me. Well lemme help these are ya words

When Reek found Sansa coming back from the tower, he was taking her back to her room until they were busted by Miranda

So Reek begging her to go back to her room with Miranda because he was concerned for her safety suddenly equate to the above statement grin shocked

I repeat what you said didn't happen anywhere? Quote me any day any where will tell you the same thing. Let me help your research rewatch s5 e10 early on really say 16 to 17mins in and you will get this scene. Your welcome!!! grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by elrony(m): 9:55pm On Apr 15, 2019
Chysler:
Pls Note that Sam Tarly's Anger towards Dany for executing His father and Brother will significantly contribute to the bitter sweet ending...


Whatever...makes the plot more iller grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:55pm On Apr 15, 2019
Jwonder:


undecided Respect is earned and not given, even Jon told her people in the North hardly trust outsiders
the north is full of proud stupid people

thats why the south is always fuckkkking with them


who their trust help?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:56pm On Apr 15, 2019
kay9:


She paid for the entire squads of trained Unsullied PLUS the still-in-training ones with ONE dragon - Drogon. She handed the dragon to the slave masters but they couldn't control it; and then they unwisely commented "tell the b!tch her beast won't come", to which Daenerys replied "A dragon is not a slave"... And then Dracarys.
this is not true


she tricked him
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by elrony(m): 9:56pm On Apr 15, 2019
kay9:


You are wrong.

She paid for the entire squads of trained Unsullied PLUS the still-in-training ones with ONE dragon - Drogon. She handed the dragon to the slave masters but they couldn't control it; and then they unwisely commented "tell the b!tch her beast won't come", to which Daenerys replied "A dragon is not a slave"... And then Dracarys.

Ma nigguh
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by elrony(m): 9:56pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
this is not true


she tricked him

Which trick?. grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:57pm On Apr 15, 2019
elrony:


She's young and no Aerys abeg, she's shown restraint with the kinda power she possesses. She needed to make a statement to be taken serious with.

If you check, she's not always the first to attack.

In War, you don’t go ahead killing all the nobles you come across that’s why there are prisoner of war. If not for Tyrion and Varys, that’s Dany will have become her father. Her blood too dey hot.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 9:57pm On Apr 15, 2019
elrony:


Which trick?. grin
she knew that he wouldnt be able to tame drogon


thats why after he gave her the wip, she confirmed if the transaction is done

as he said yes, she ask drogon to burn him
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:58pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


You seriously want to compare the Starks, Baratheon and Targaryen with House Tarly, really?

As long as the male child of the Starks are still alive, the Bolton’s hold on the North will always be challenged.

As long as Targaryen are still alive, the Baratheon or Lannister claim to the throne will always be challenged

Cersei was the one killing Robert bastard sons. While Robert was King, Renly was in Kings Landing and Stannis was one of the commanders of the Kings army. When Robert was alive, no one was hunting down the Baratheon except Cersei.

So I ask again, what threat do House Tarly poses to Dany.

The Tarlys were trying to kill her or did you think she went into their bedroom to kill them at a wedding?
Or you are asking what threat someone tryng to kill her 30mins earlier pose? Did they stop wishing to kill her?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 9:58pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


In War, you don’t go ahead killing all the nobles you come across that’s why there are prisoner of war. If not for Tyrion and Varys, that’s Dany will have become her father. Her blood too dey hot.

But they killed all her family member male female young old. without giving them options to bend the knee and live

At least she had people who could talk to her and she listen, not many people with power in that show can say that

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 10:01pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


In War, you don’t go ahead killing all the nobles you come across that’s why there are prisoner of war. If not for Tyrion and Varys, that’s Dany will have become her father. Her blood too dey hot.
a noble who wouldn't bend the knee is useless


aegon the conqueror did it to good effect when he conquered the 7 kingdoms

he was burning people that went against him, compassion for disrespect is seen as weakness

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 10:02pm On Apr 15, 2019
Sultan5:


Lol check your previous posts and get back to me. Well lemme help these are ya words

When Reek found Sansa coming back from the tower, he was taking her back to her room until they were busted by Miranda

So Reek begging her to go back to her room with Miranda because he was concerned for her safety suddenly equate to the above statement grin shocked

I repeat what you said didn't happen anywhere? Quote me any day any where will tell you the same thing. Let me help your research rewatch s5 e10 early on really say 16 to 17mins in and you will get this scene. Your welcome!!! grin



Reek was not concerned for her safety too when he originally reported the plot and had the conspirators killed.

Reek was not concerned for her safety when he watched her raped

Reek was not concerned for her safety when he gave her away at her wedding.

Reek was not concerned for her safety when he came to escort her back to her room in captivity.

The only time Reek was concerned was when he saw Miranda was ready to hurt Sansa, and that's only because he would have been held accountable. Until, his neck was on the chopping block, Reek did not care about what happened to anyone else.

The same reek that had a knife at the throat of Ramsay and did nothing, will now suddenly risk his life for Sansa? cheesy

Bros rest.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 10:03pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:


The Tarlys were trying to kill her or did you think she went into their bedroom to kill them at a wedding?
Or you are asking what threat someone tryng to kill her 30mins earlier pose? Did they stop wishing to kill her?

The Tarly were soldier fighting for a side. Whether they bend the kneel is not an immediate concern. She had every right to kill them, I have no doubt about that but she was hasty with that decision especially with Dickon. That’s my argument.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 10:03pm On Apr 15, 2019
I like when people use their sense to talk. Thank you. Please keep telling them


raumdeuter:

You said its war

So was it not a war that made Danerys face the Tarly or did she go to their bedroom to wake them up?

Its war anyone who catches the other kills the other, she was more than magnanimous and gave them a choice to either submit or die.

Its war people use what they have to fight, She has her dragon and she is using it. The ironborn are nothing too without their fleet, Jon is nothing too without the wildling and the Vales


If you are telling me that the Tarlys would have killed her assuming they caught her why cant she kill them when she caught them too

The merciful Jon should have also pardoned Ramsay Bolton too right?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Jwonder(m): 10:05pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
like i said


when it comes to game of thrones, i dont carry talk, i knew R+L=J right from season 2

This is the last episode and before any marriage there would be some kind of connection and i don't see and connection between Sansa and Gendry
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 10:05pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
a noble who wouldn't bend the knee is useless


aegon the conqueror did it to good effect when he conquered the 7 kingdoms

he was burning people that went against him, compassion for disrespect is seen as weakness


Aegon the conqueror after conquering the 7 kingdom didn’t tell the Noble bend the kneel and die on that same spot. They were first his prisoner.

The moment they were defeated in battle, they already lost whatever crown they had, a good kind/leader doesn’t go about killing all those she already captured because they didn’t instantly submit to him.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Jwonder(m): 10:06pm On Apr 15, 2019
harlaryoh:
Arya and sacrifices? Hell no! I don't think she swings that way grin grin

Save my post and endeavor to quote me when it happens
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Lordseyad(m): 10:07pm On Apr 15, 2019
kay9:


I never believed that pregnancy talk for once. Right from season 07 when Tyrion first made that crazy leap of deduction, my immediate reaction was "Imp bro, you've just been played."

uhm, You never believed the pregnancy talk for once

grin

After the match ended 2-1, you now came on to tell us You knew they wud play over 1.5

I hope you know that Jamie knew before sha.. cos she actually told Jamie first.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Jwonder(m): 10:09pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:
the north is full of proud stupid people

thats why the south is always fuckkkking with them


who their trust help?

How are they proud ? And How did the South Bleep with them
The way u reason eehh! I weak, your analysis of GOT is wack, abeg no just near Twitter with this kind reasoning they would roast you straight away..

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ksslib(m): 10:11pm On Apr 15, 2019
Chysler:
Pls Note that Sam Tarly's Anger towards Dany for executing His father and Brother will significantly contribute to the bitter sweet ending...
Spot on! You have a sharp sixth sense. I like that.

Immidiately I watched that scene today I knew I was going to hate beloved Sam at the end. My instinct is almost never wrong.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 10:15pm On Apr 15, 2019
Let me try and explain so you don't get confused. Would also do you good if you watch that scene again.

She agreed to give the master drogon, in exchange for all the unsullied, both the ones in training. The master agreed to this (while all the while insulting her).
She gives the master drogon and in exchange got the whip. Thus, the master had been paid. All that was agreed was a dragon for the unsullied. Nobody said anything about the dragon obeying the master.

It was at this point she commanded the unsullied using the whip to kill the masters. While this was going on, she turns to the master holding drogon. He complains the dragon refuse to obey but Deanerys tells him dragons are not slaves. And she says, "Dracarys"

Pls you must note here that she has done Wat she agreed, which is give her dragon for the unsullied. As long as she has paid, she can use what she paid for anyways she wants. She decides to use it to attack the masters.

Semtu:


You are just trying to maneuver your way around the main point of focus.

You said she bought the unsullied army?.. Need I remind you, that terms of the exchange was set which she willfully broke immediately she was in possession of the scourge.

She didn't buy the unsullied army. undecided

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 10:16pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


The Tarly were soldier fighting for a side. Whether they bend the kneel is not an immediate concern. She had every right to kill them, I have no doubt about that but she was hasty with that decision especially with Dickon. That’s my argument.

She has every right to kill the Tarly's including Rickon.

She gave him a last minute option to bend the knee and live which is more than most people in power will give anyone. Which is more than anyone ever gave her in her life

So after Dickon declined what should she do? Be begging him? Someone that was about to kill her and her people some minutes earlier

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 10:16pm On Apr 15, 2019
Let me try and explain so you don't get confused. Would also do you good if you watch that scene again.

She agreed to give the master drogon, in exchange for all the unsullied, both the ones in training. The master agreed to this (while all the while insulting her).
She gives the master drogon and in exchange got the whip. Thus, the master had been paid. All that was agreed was a dragon for the unsullied. Nobody said anything about the dragon obeying the master.

It was at this point she commanded the unsullied using the whip to kill the masters. While this was going on, she turns to the master holding drogon. He complains the dragon refuse to obey but Deanerys tells him dragons are not slaves. And she says, "Dracarys"

Pls you must note here that she has done Wat she agreed, which is give her dragon for the unsullied. As long as she has paid, she can use what she paid for anyways she wants. She decided to use it to attack the masters.

Semtu:


You are just trying to maneuver your way around the main point of focus.

You said she bought the unsullied army?.. Need I remind you, that terms of the exchange was set which she willfully broke immediately she was in possession of the scourge.

She didn't buy the unsullied army. undecided
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ksslib(m): 10:21pm On Apr 15, 2019
iamJ:


Guy forget all this talk, Gentry and Arya will only happen in your dreams

I haven't even seen any1 hinting this on Reddit


And those guys know their onions more than people here
Calm down man. I'm not a shipper. I'm just stating the obvious.

So people that post on reddit were moulded from dragon sand & Valyrian dust while the rest of us over here were moulded with sharp sand?

I don't know if your reddit lords observed but from this 1st episode it's evident that the producers are beginning to cave to some sections of their fans. GendArya happen to have a big fan base. It's looking like you'll have to watch that romance whether you like it or not.

Kpele.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 10:21pm On Apr 15, 2019
Let me put it this way to you, If it was a dothraki horde that invaded, would they take prisoners. No! They would kill the men and rape the women.
Deanerys didn't kill them immediately. She gave them a chance to swear fealty to her. This is like saying, if I let you go you won't kill me later. They refused, in essence, they were still her enemy and letting them go would have been a terrible mistake.

I still believe though that she should not have killed Dickon. A few days in the dungeon would have set his head straight. But killing Randall was absolutely spot on. He denounce Deanerys in every way possible. That had only one outcome

larride:


You have a valid point but they were not killed during the battle.

The battle has ended and they are already her prisoner, it was within her power to executed them all to be fair but I believe she was in too much hurry to them to bend the kneel like that.

You sef reason ham now, That was the first time they are seeing/meeting her and she immediately gave them the “kneel or die” option. It doesn’t make sense. Jon in that same position would have taken the die option. She was hasty.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 10:26pm On Apr 15, 2019
Jwonder:


How are they proud ? And How did the South Bleep with them
The way u reason eehh! I weak, your analysis of GOT is wack, abeg no just near Twitter with this kind reasoning they would roast you straight away..
ned Stark sister was taken


His brother went to ask for their sister

That one was taken prisoner and died trying to save his father


Their father was burnt alive


Their king was known as the king who bent the knee

Robb stark was forming boss they killed him and his men


Should I continue?


The north is full of proud dumb people
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kay9(m): 10:29pm On Apr 15, 2019
raumdeuter:




How many of thse courtesy did they offer to house Targaryan when they were eliminating them?
How many did they offer to House Baratheon?

All the people left in those 2 great families who once ruled all fled and are in hiding

So the courtesy that no one gave her Targaryan family she should gove to one Tarly family
Did anyone even offer her the chance to bend the knee and be saved when they were wiping out her family?


The Baratheons were usurpers to the Targaryens in King Robert's War (just like the Boltons were to the Starks in the Bast@rd Bowl). In such cases in Westerosi tradition, each capturing/wining group COMPLETELY annihilates the other (that is why Tywin destroyed House Reyne of Castermere; they tried to usurp House Lannisters' rulership of the Westerlands). This is also why even after Visery's death, King Robert still ordered assasins sent after the then little Daenerys, to ensure complete domination.

But Tarly was not a usurper; he was a Lord fighting for his liege. So your analogy fails.

For comparison, years back, Theon's father, Balon Greyjoy, had tried to usurp King Robert's rule - he claimed independence for the Iron Islands and crown himself king. Ned Stark quashed that rebellion. The rightful penalty was death for all members of House Greyjoy, but Ned Stark counseled mercy; all of Theon's elder brothers had died in the battle and old man Greyjoy begged forgiveness. So Robert forgave and took away his only remaining son - Theon - and fostered him in Winterfell... basically turning the baby Kraken into a direwolf-wannabe.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 10:29pm On Apr 15, 2019
Lol �
"I'm meeting you for the first time, I need some time to know you first before I decide to surrender totally"
Savage! �

raumdeuter:


Larride say China and Japan meet in war, China defeats Japan and ask the Japanese president to surrender and "bend the knee" will Japan president now tell him I am meeting you for the first time, I need some time to know you first before I decide to surrender totally?

if that happens what do you think the Chinese leader will be saying? Trying to make himself known to the enemy?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iamJ(m): 10:30pm On Apr 15, 2019
larride:


Aegon the conqueror after conquering the 7 kingdom didn’t tell the Noble bend the kneel and die on that same spot. They were first his prisoner.

The moment they were defeated in battle, they already lost whatever crown they had, a good kind/leader doesn’t go about killing all those she already captured because they didn’t instantly submit to him.
you don't know ur history

Aegon will ask you to bend the knee on the spot


If you don't , he kills you and your men

He didn't take no prisoner


Some of you are thinking this is democracy

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 10:30pm On Apr 15, 2019
Endy10:
Let me put it this way to you, If it was a dothraki horde that invaded, would they take prisoners. No! They would kill the men and rape the women.
Deanerys didn't kill them immediately. She gave them a chance to swear fealty to her. This is like saying, if I let you go you won't kill me later. They refused, in essence, they were still her enemy and letting them go would have been a terrible mistake.

I still believe though that she should not have killed Dickon. A few days in the dungeon would have set his head straight. But killing Randall was absolutely spot on. He denounce Deanerys in every way possible. That had only one outcome


Well you are only buttressing my point. Randyll had to die with the way he responded to her but not Dickon. That is my stance all along.

If she didn’t kill them, she’s not setting them free either. They are her prisoner.

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