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aadoiza:
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He wasn't supposed to die because of too much odeshi

YUNGCONCEPT11:
SHEIKS IN THE HOUSE CAN SOMEONE GO ON WITH THAT BASMALAH 1026

aadoiza:
It's clear now. Thanks for this. I'll share why I asked the questions later.

movado19:
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Toh! That's between him and his maker.

aadoiza:
I like your humility.
This is a wonderful angle to look at it from.
Please what about the second question: a Muslim says his favourite adhkar or du'a but not La ilaha illa lah as his last words, should that be seen as a positive sign?

Empiree:
In my opinion, make a U-TURN by relocating to the remote countryside where cell phones have hard time to connect. You ready to do this in this day and age?.
Hmm, food for thought!

So you can see why some of the shuyukh went to the bushes to do dhikr like Sheikh Nda solati (ra).
Too many distractions and noise. This can actually affect one's mental health in a negative way.

But we have modern Alfa today criticized them. One Alfa said they went there to invoke Jinn and that there is no Sunnah record for this practice. They don't understand. In another word, it is not easy to get close to Allah in megacities. Too much fitan left and right.

As always, talk is cheap. I am amazed none of these fellas have actually tried doing what the shuyuk's did, so that at least they will have a foundation or springboard to criticise, based on experience, etc.

well, it is tedious efforts. The first thing is to humble oneself to Sheikh which many of us young people don't do anymore. We can see that clearly on this platform. They are ready to talk trash about a sheikh especially if he's Sufi.
Humility is now an "endangered specie" in our modern times. To be of a comely and noble character is now seen as weakness and laughed at. Not minding that the Qur'an is very particular about such in various verses as well as the Rasul's sayings to butress such points.

Most of the Islamic knowledge on the internet today are usually base on external observation and devoid of spiritual essence. You would think there is no knowledge beyond external observation.
Hence why a lot of people are frustrated! They have reached a dead-end. Not knowing that there is a vast and bottomless ocean - how to reach even one of its shore is the issue.

I would suggest to those brothers and sisters who were not opportuned to to grow up in such islamic environment to ensure their children acquire this knowledge if they can't. The world has changed which makes it difficult to return to this golden age. Modern Western Civilization wants to ensure they take religion out of our way of life and we are helping them with modern islamic ideology.

Its effects are clear to all to see these days.

So remote countryside and ability to humble and serve would be great way to go about this. Another problem is finding the right sheikh. It is so unfortunate that there are many shuyukh today who are waliy of shaytan. From them emerged the worse beneath the sky. But authentic ones are still around for sure. Even authentic ones would do crazy things to test you as Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and Sheikh Ninowy rightly said. Sheik Hamza Yusuf said you have to be humble enough to pass through that process.
That's the major issue - where and how to meet a right sheikh who will not lead you to the fire, not let you drown or cause Allah to turn His back on you due to the wrong company!
I once read about Hamza Yusuf who had a Sheik in the remotest part of Mauritania, I think. How those were one of the best times of his life and he learned so much from him. This sheikh is late now. May Allah forgive him his sins and grant him Janat-ul-Firdaws, Amin

I served under my Sheikh for 20yrs overall but 14 years of this was the real deal. Wallahi, nkan be in Islam. If you know you know. If you don't know you don't.
To say that you are blessed is an understatement, wallahi!
Your Sheikh is a legend and I pray Allah elongates his life; filled with goodness upon goodness, Amin.
Amongst his children (male and female), who is currently and actively taking after him?
It would be a very huge loss for this sort of blessing and gift not to continue.

We got to the point where a man wanted to spend millions of dollars for my sheikh just to marry his girlfriend. It was crazy. I was actively involved in this back then. Had to use his own saliva to write ountu at some point. This is why my Sheikh respect me more bcuz others refused to do it. Whatever services you render your Sheikh will not be in vain. I remembered his saliva stank but I finished it. The man is the father of Akinuoye Agbaje who featured in American movie, The Mummy. He was a lawyer and berger secretary. He was just given money to us anyhow before and after his prayers were answered. Don't mind pastors. They have nothing. This Agbaje man was CHRISTIAN but finally humbled himself when my sheikh told him to keep his money if he could not come and present himself in person. He felt too big to come from Lagos. He would only send his driver to send message. When he was told to keep his money, he realized that this must be authentic Alfa. The man was freaking rich to the point that his girlfriend then stole #500m from him and he said he didn't mind as long as she married him but the woman didn't want that.
It is clear that you must have met a lot of funny, weird and diverse characters over those golden years with your Sheikh!
Please keep the narratives coming in. I'm very sure we all are learning massively from you and your experiences.

By the way, where are you, EmekaRaj? Your narratives just fizzled and your presence is dearly missed. Plese, do come back!

See how this old man go to any length bcuz of a woman?.
...and history will continue to repeat itself. Is no one learning?!

aadoiza:
These OPC guys get jazz faa. One even boasted if someone holds his clothe while they are being shot at no bullet will touch that person.
Haha! Until Shaitan himself decides to bodyslam their hopes in him when they are the most desperate for him!

Empiree:
In my opinion, it is the same. For instance, someone is used to sending salawat on the Prophet (saw) to the point of death. The last minutes of his life he says, "Allaahuma Salli ala Sayyidina Muhammadin wasalim"

Obviously, there is evidence in the Qur'an which says whoever loves nabi Muhammad Allah loves him (her). So by default, it is acceptable. And ofcourse there are many ahadith to back this up too.

Likewise someone is used to saying, "Laa Hawla Walaquwata ila bilah" and he utters these words the last seconds of his life is acceptable as far as I am concerned because the person negates all powers, all sovereigns except Allahu.

This can be found in sura Al-Imran.

And Allaah knows best

movado19:
Empir.ee, what's your take on this:
From a spiritual (metaphysical) point of view?
They say that one's words have a life, so it's very important to watch what we say, etc.
There's a drink made popular by Saudi Arabia in the middle east called "Saudi Champagne"
To my knowledge, there is no alcohol in it but just a mixture of tonic water, apple juice and other juices.
Physically, if someone declares that they are drinking champagne, beer, spirit but in reality what they have in thier cup is just water or orange juice, does it count against them spiritually as people who have drank alcohol?
The same question for those who say that they are eating chicken or turkey "bacon".
My gripe is: Why use the word bacon at all or anything associated with what is haram?
Does it get recorded for them are drinkers of wine/eaters of bacon metaphysically or not?

Brothers and sisters, please chime in as well if you are conversant with anything like this.

Empiree:
brother, we live in a deceptive world. I will not be deceived by their antics. Why would they label the bottle champagne when they know for a fact that champagne denotes Haram drinks?.
Exactly why I am baffled. There are so many names to choose from, and yet champagne took the glory at the end of the day.

I am always skeptical about all these things. It is not new to me. I went to a store with a "uncle" 4yrs ago. He's Christian. Actually he's Mr. A I talked about in his thread. He bought two bottles of beer and gave me one. I said no. He said it is not beer ómó Alhaji. They just wrote the name on it. Something like "beer water". I said nope and he smiled.
Yes, I remember his story with his wife and in-laws.
I have had similar encounters were I was "pressurized" to take alcohol because there was a celebration going on. Someone spoke up and said am I the only Muslim on earth? After all, the alcohol content is "just" 0.1 or 0.2 and there were other Muslims raising their classes up to toast!!!
I was greatly saddened by this event.
If not for Allah who made me ask about the food being served, I would have eaten food cooked in wine!
They said I should eat the food because the wine has evaporated and it just gives a "fine" flavour to the food! Lol.
It's so bad now that even if I go to Muslim homes, I will ask questions if served any meal and if not satisfied, then I don't bother eating it.

Shaytan is stupid. That's how they get you to drink alcohol even if the so called "Saudi champagne" is free of alcohol. How Will you know if in the future they actually mix alcohol in it?.
It could be a ploy to, first of all, let people's guard down and then just as you said; later down the line add what they want in it.

It is a trick and Qur'an warned us in sura Maida that shaytan has given up hope about our religion from leading us astray, therefore we should not follow him in small things. I don't know if you watched Sheikh Assim some years ago (still on YouTube) boasting about he drinks beer made in Saudi Arabia and he's proud of it?. He then tried to justify by saying alcohol content is only 2%?.
La Hawla Wala Kuwwata Illah Billah!
I just watched it and he said he is proud of drinking beer. But that the beer is made in Saudi Arabia! As if that absolves him or the company making it. He said the beer just has 2% alcohol! Na Wa. I never beleived that I would ever see such a thing.

As far as I am concerned, I don't care if the content is halal for as long as the label is Haram. They want to mislead people, especially Muslims. It is worst when muslim leaders do things from back door than kufar who do it from front door.
Exactly what made me suspicious.

Did Nabi Muhammad (saw) not say this ummah would commit Zina but they would give it another name?. It is the same with the so called "Saudi champagne" so that you think "it is Saudi it must be right. It is gotta be halal champagne". They play with our mental faculty. Shame on the devil.
There are now some professionals known as Neuro Marketers - let's just say that what they do borders on dark art, in my opinion. Some may even know you more than you know yourself!
We all should be vigilant.

Why don't they simply call it what it is, Tonic water, soda(soft drink), orange juice etc?. This is why oyinbo are honest sometimes (I'm not giving them credit) but they are usually sincere. When I went to Germany, in my hotel room's mini fridge it is a mini bar. They put in there side by side tonic water, orange juice, apple juice. Bottle water. And on the other side in the same fridge it is different types of beers they have there. This is clear. Why would Saudi or any muslim country attempts to create confusion?.
Amazing things are happening around the world.


To in my opinion, and my opinion is not binding on anymore. I say avoid it 100% because this is what I do anytime I go to shop at superstore. I simply avoid alcohol beverages section altogether. Growing up I was trained to have nothing to do with beer, alcohol, champagne liquor etc and I maintained this standards till date. There are too much confusions in the world already. Ulama don't need to add more.
May Allah open our eyes to the deceptions around us every day.

Go to France they now have halal pork. The poultry says on their building "halal meat". But the truck that came to deliver meat actually delivered pigs. See what I'm talking about? And it is Arab owned poultry.
what?!
Is there no safe place on earth anymore?
See why I mentioned that I still ask questions even if I go to a Muslim home and offered food?

As always, one may drink if no option left.
May we never encounter such an option, Amin.

Empiree:
brother, we live in a deceptive world. I will not be deceived by their antics. Why would they label the bottle champagne when they know for a fact that champagne denotes Haram drinks?.

I am always skeptical about all these things. It is not new to me. I went to a store with a "uncle" 4yrs ago. He's Christian. Actually he's Mr. A I talked about in his thread. He bought two bottles of beer and gave me one. I said no. He said it is not beer ómó Alhaji. They just wrote the name on it. Something like "beer water". I said nope and he smiled.

Shaytan is stupid. That's how they get you to drink alcohol even if the so called "Saudi champagne" is free of alcohol. How Will you know if in the future they actually mix alcohol in it?.

It is a trick and Qur'an warned us in sura Maida that shaytan has given up hope about our religion from leading us astray, therefore we should not follow him in small things. I don't know if you watched Sheikh Assim some years ago (still on YouTube) boasting about he drinks beer made in Saudi Arabia and he's proud of it?. He then tried to justify by saying alcohol content is only 2%?.

As far as I am concerned, I don't care if the content is halal for as long as the label is Haram. They want to mislead people, especially Muslims. It is worst when muslim leaders do things from back door than kufar who do it from front door.

Did Nabi Muhammad (saw) not say this ummah would commit Zina but they would give it another name?. It is the same with the so called "Saudi champagne" so that you think "it is Saudi it must be right. It is gotta be halal champagne". They play with our mental faculty. Shame on the devil.

Why don't they simply call it what it is, Tonic water, soda(soft drink), orange juice etc?. This is why oyinbo are honest sometimes (I'm not giving them credit) but they are usually sincere. When I went to Germany, in my hotel room's mini fridge it is a mini bar. They put in there side by side tonic water, orange juice, apple juice. Bottle water. And on the other side in the same fridge it is different types of beers they have there. This is clear. Why would Saudi or any muslim country attempts to create confusion?.

To in my opinion, and my opinion is not binding on anymore. I say avoid it 100% because this is what I do anytime I go to shop at superstore. I simply avoid alcohol beverages section altogether. Growing up I was trained to have nothing to do with beer, alcohol, champagne liquor etc and I maintained this standards till date. There are too much confusions in the world already. Ulama don't need to add more.

Go to France they now have halal pork. The poultry says on their building "halal meat". But the truck that came to deliver meat actually delivered pigs. See what I'm talking about? And it is Arab owned poultry.


As always, one may drink if no option left.

Empiree:
I am always skeptical about all these things. It is not new to me. I went to a store with a "uncle" 4yrs ago. He's Christian. Actually he's Mr. A I talked about in his thread. He bought two bottles of beer and gave me one. I said no. He said it is not beer ómó Alhaji. They just wrote the name on it. Something like "beer water". I said nope and he smiled.

aadoiza:
Hahaha!!! Halal pork kee dem there. A bunch of jokers

aadoiza:
Hahaha!!! Halal pork kee dem there. A bunch of jokers

Empiree:
I remembered inscription on the bottle he handed me. They wrote "non-alcoholic beer". See deception and confusion?.

They want to scatter our head. They are telling us it is beer but not alcohol?

aadoiza:
The reason I asked those questions earlier on @ Empir.ee and mova.do19.
When my father was terribly ill, a few weeks before his death, my big bro would say to him: baba, try and say the kalimat from time to time now. Baba would not even look at him. He knew he was going to die and couldn't help feeling bad about it because he wanted to see his last two children (me and an older sis) achieve certain things in life, and had just moved into a new house one of the other big sis built for him in our home town. He said "if I had known death would come so early I would not have had this child spent so much money on this house". They (both parents) had just spent over two years in their massive new home.
He never did day the kalimat. But on the morning that he passed, he was lying on the floor of his room and suddenly asked to be helped to sit up. As I lifted him from the floor and was getting up, he said: Audhubika limatillah atamat minshari mankhalaqa. And that was it. It was his favourite line in the morning and evening adhkar found in the book- Hisnul Muslim. In fact, whenever he was doing his adhkar and got to that line he would say it three times and very loudly and joyously too. He would be loud that you could hear him his house compound.
I have thought about this for a while now and finally found the right platform to ask a question thereof.

aadoiza:
The reason I asked those questions earlier on @ Empiree and movado19.
When my father was terribly ill, a few weeks before his death, my big bro would say to him: baba, try and say the kalimat from time to time now. Baba would not even look at him. He knew he was going to die and couldn't help feeling bad about it because he wanted to see his last two children (me and an older sis) achieve certain things in life, and had just moved into a new house one of the other big sis built for him in our home town. He said "if I had known death would come so early I would not have had this child spent so much money on this house". They (both parents) had just spent over two years in their massive new home.
He never did day the kalimat. But on the morning that he passed, he was lying on the floor of his room and suddenly asked to be helped to sit up. As I lifted him from the floor and was getting up, he said: Audhubika limatillah atamat minshari mankhalaqa. And that was it. It was his favourite line in the morning and evening adhkar found in the book- Hisnul Muslim. In fact, whenever he was doing his adhkar and got to that line he would say it three times and very loudly and joyously too. He would be loud that you could hear him his house compound.
I have thought about this for a while now and finally found the right platform to ask a question thereof.

movado19:
Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
First of all, please accept my deepest condolence and I pray Allah forgives your Dad all his sins, expand his Qabr and fill it with nur. May he be a dignified citizen of Jannat al Firdaws, in the company of Rasul Allah, his descendants, righteous companions and muslims, Amin.

This experience you just narrated about your Dad is very much in tandem with Empiree and I; our opinions and take of such situations, I believe.
That he was fond of reciting that dua daily and he loved it while alive was what you saw the outcome of, as his last saying.
No good deed ever goes wasted. and Allah is ever appreciative of our efforts, no matter how big or small.
Yaa Man U'bida Fa-Shakar "Oh He who is worshipped and thankful!"

My brother, that it wasn't the Kalimah your dad recited does not nullify anything. He was granted the power of speech at the end and what he uttered is a very, very beautiful dua, bi'ithnillah!

Empiree:
Titobi ni fun olohun.

Subhanallah!

Great ending.

See what I like about death?. When it gives signs and time to prepare than sudden one. Take a look at Ali Bannat's story. Death have him time to retract his steps and prepare himself for eternity.

May Allah bless and grant your Jannah fir'daus. Ameen

LadunaI:
# What brought about the question was that, using oriental system of calculation for BasmaAllah gives me 786 and 19 is not its factor.so when I asked he pointed out to me that is because the website uses oriental instead of o accidental system. He now gave all those six major letter that differentiate them with their associated values. By so doing, using of occidental for basmallah give us 1026 which has 19 as one of it divisor corresponding to total numberof letters in Basmallah.

# I didn't bother to ask or search further because if you read his (Ikupakuti) previous posts, he make categorically statement that he's an "Authority" when he comes to M.A and Numerology. So I believed him and just move on using the occidental he proposed. I couldn't pursue it much there after though. If you could lay your hand on some of the books he proposed then, you might get more info you're looking for.

movado19:
Yes, my uncle mentioned it about an hour ago that I will not get the dua Jabbaru online and that he knows it is usually cow that is killed after reading it. He says he is very conversant with the Yasin kutba, as well as the tira. So I asked him why he never mentioned it and his answer was how many things will he speak of?! Lol!

Trottle:
Nice work here @ Egbon Empiree, Movado, Aadozia, Ladunal, YOUNGCONCEPT and All.


I never knew many of us were searching for the that Tirá thereafter I actually got it, it was the last on the shelf! This should be late last year in Ilorin.

Its really old, brown-papered and the calligraphy is of the highest standard (old styled) and most of us who learnt using the "normal" Arabic calligraphy will find it really hard to comprehend (I'm actually looking for someone who could help transcribe it to "simple" Arabic/English).

I took it to my Sheikh, when he started reading and explaining the first page to me, apparently contains the instruction, and some 10s upon tens of Rakat will be part of the preliminaries . Though he didn't go further with the explanations.

Unfortunately, I left it in Ilorin, and I'm presently in another state. I'll send for it and when I lay my hands on it, I'll take some shots for Oga Empiree to verify if its "Daawatul Jabbarriyah" or one of its contemporaries.


YOUNGCONCEPT, keep pushing on. I like your tenacity.

aadoiza:
Empiree once talked about how dreams are a means of receiving messages on this thread, but some guy asked, almost mischievously, "from whom?". He kind of ridiculed such notion. But I dey here dey laugh at the ignoramus.
I wlll share how a dream stopped my bro from making his biggest mistake.

Empiree:
We talked about this yesterday, right.

But someone said they could have been people of Qatif, Saudi Arabia not Riyadh. Riyadh people don't have the ball.

Trottle:
Its really old, brown-papered and the calligraphy is of the highest standard (old styled) and most of us who learnt using the "normal" Arabic calligraphy will find it really hard to comprehend (I'm actually looking for someone who could help transcribe it to "simple" Arabic/English).