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paxonel:
what do you mean by that?
Gods kingdom is christ himself living in all christians, your pastors dont know that one.

How do i know that your pastors lack that knowledge?
They keep telling church members lies that heaven is coming in the future that they should strive and make heaven, meanwhile heaven is right inside them here on this earth, it was freely given to them they dont know.

Little wonder these church members will do anything like going to church, pay tithe and offering and becoming extremely religious in the face of the dwindling nigerian economy and poverty, thinking that they are doing all that to make heaven. As a result, pastors are going home with fat account every sunday while the people remain poor.

Na God go save 9ja from the hands of these pastors

So much heresy.

Heaven is inside of us. What now happens when we die? Heaven dies too?

doggedfighter:
How did you know that Christianity is the only way the truth and life? Oh , because you belong there so the rest are doomed. Keep deceiving yourself.

They are condemned and doomed because Jesus said so, not me.

John 3:18 (KJV)
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

tolusaliu:
Thank you.But he didn't mention only Muslims

do you understand what i said?
Not just muslims but all non christians.
Yes muslims was not mentioned in the bible because there was nothing like islam as at the time scriptures were written, but there were other religions like judaism at that time.
And you know what scripture says?
Romans 1:17..the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith.
That is, from religion to religion : from whatever religion to christianity.
That means, if you have not converted someone from another religion into christianity then you have never won a soul.

ours is to preach the gospel and God's own is to move/operate

where did you people get this faulty idea from?
So,God will just come down and move and operate? Una do well!
But get this known, God can do everything does not mean that he will do anything.

There are some issues you let go as it is so that you never fall into sin thinking that you are doing the right thing.

the most inportant thing is, the right thing should be done

Even the people fighting for Jihad thought they are doing the Lord good or saying the truth.Please God don't reason the same way we reason here.And besides that ............

killing people in the name of jihad isnt right

Freeze case is not something you can contemplate or argue about because he thought he's doing the Lord good by speaking

no!
anyone have right to argue. You can always tackle freeze, but make sure your argument is valid, sound and guiniune, otherwise you will loose the argument even when you are right. Luke 12:58-59
And that is why oyedepo and adeboye cannot even start arguing with freeze, because they simply cannot put up a sound, valid and guinuine argument, so they loose.

but never knew he's judging already,and you can't take the place of God when it comes to judgment because in the process of judgment there is always what we call MERCY.

when a pastor continues to give you wrong information of scriptures why will you want to mercy him?
You want to mercy him at the expense of you being rightly informed?
Tell the pastor to quit teaching you jo, that is a fair judgement. Look, christ has given you the power to judge in that aspect.

Thank you and I end my advice here with you all.
PEACE

PEACE TO YOU

alBHAGDADI:
They are going to hell, they and Muslims.

Lol....the descendants of father Abraham whom are first saved by birth are all going to hell? The real people of God? Na Nigerians go make heaven because una believe? Even Angels would be laughing at you...


Use your head at times...somethings written in the Bible are not as the are...deeper

alBHAGDADI:
They are condemned and doomed because Jesus said so, not me.

John 3:18 (KJV)
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Oh, Jesus said in your Bible? What of other books? They are not true because you have a different belief system? Your Jesus will destroy everyone and spare Christians. Such a joke

alBHAGDADI:
You are not a Christian, that's why you find it funny to hear such.

Ok

alBHAGDADI:
Another fake pastors exposes himself.

If a man who pastors a church with nothing less than a thousand members could say this, then it means the members are all doomed.

How dare he say Daddy Freeze speaks truth? The same Daddy e that says Muslims don't need Jesus to make heaven even when Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one cometh to the Father except through me"?

Well, I'll call what the pastor said about freeze a compliment to another false prophet.

No disrespect!!! We don't need Jesus to make heaven although we actually believe in him.
He remains a prophet of God and not his Son...
We also don't pray in his name, We pray in God's name.

alBHAGDADI:
So much heresy.

i am not suprise!
Jesus was accused of heresies for saying strange things to them.
It further tells me that truth is very strange to nigerians and lies are common among them.

Heaven is inside of us. What now happens when we die? Heaven dies too?

if you think your spirit dies with your body then you are not fit to be a christian

alBHAGDADI:
Christ's words transcends time and catches the likes of Daddy Freeze. His words are a double edged sword.

what is the correlation between double edge sword with time?
Keep deceiving yourself

Freeze is a bad tree baring bad fruits. Go to his page and say something contrary to their belief and watch how his horde will rain curse words on you. That's a glimpse of the kind of fruits he bares.

that is because you are going there to attack him out of your emotions rather than using your brain to argue concisely

alBHAGDADI:
The reason Muslims prosper is because God still allows rain and sun to fall on them. All of that will soon stop.

Mathew 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Sir sorry for you are totally wrong.....

paxonel:
what is the correlation between double edge sword with time?
Keep deceiving yourself
that is because you are going there to attack him out of your emotions rather than using your brain to argue concisely

A double edged sword cuts either both sides. As Christ's word cut the Pharisees who were false teachers in his days, so it does to Freeze a false teacher today. Except you want to tell me that the words of Jesus are to remain in his time and no more relevant today. Well, such can only come from a disciple of freeze, not from a Christian who follows Jesus.

How I'm I attacking freeze out of emotions? Stop false accusations.

paxonel:
i am not suprise!
Jesus was accused of heresies for saying strange things to them.
It further tells me that truth is very strange to nigerians and lies are common among them.
if you think your spirit dies with your body then you are not fit to be a christian

Don't you get it, where do we go when we die with heaven inside of us?

Blainz:
Lol....the descendants of father Abraham whom are first saved by birth are all going to hell? The real people of God? Na Nigerians go make heaven because una believe? Even Angels would be laughing at you...


Use your head at times...somethings written in the Bible are not as the are...deeper

No Bible verse says anyone was saved by birth. Even Jesus condemned those Jews who were depending on the fact that they are Abraham's seed.

MPESA:
Sir sorry for you are totally wrong.....

Why not show me the wrong?

alBHAGDADI:
Another fake pastors exposes himself.

If a man who pastors a church with nothing less than a thousand members could say this, then it means the members are all doomed.

How dare he say Daddy Freeze speaks truth? The same Daddy e that says Muslims don't need Jesus to make heaven even when Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one cometh to the Father except through me"?

Well, I'll call what the pastor said about freeze a compliment to another false prophet.

See this fake christian talking. From their comments you shall know them.

So it is all about the number of members and tithe they bring in to your church abi?

You are a man of Gold and not a man of God

paxonel:
what do you mean by that?
Gods kingdom is christ himself living in all christians, your pastors dont know that one.

How do i know that your pastors lack that knowledge?
They keep telling church members lies that heaven is coming in the future that they should strive and make heaven, meanwhile heaven is right inside them here on this earth, it was freely given to them they dont know.

Little wonder these church members will do anything like going to church, pay tithe and offering and becoming extremely religious in the face of the dwindling nigerian economy and poverty, thinking that they are doing all that to make heaven. As a result, pastors are going home with fat account every sunday while the people remain poor.

Na God go save 9ja from the hands of these pastors

i love this, wen d bible say the kingdom is at hand, it doesn’t mean the kingdom is few years away, it simple means the kingdom is with you already, u holding it in ur hands u don’t nid to go miles again lookin for a lost kingdom, d kingdom is the result of ur day to day activities, Jesus came to bring the kingdom to us, he didn’t take it away from us. Nobody can help u build ur kingdom only u can build it. Ur kingdom is at hand. Don’t b fooled

alBHAGDADI:
Don't you get it, where do we go when we die with heaven inside of us?

After death is judgement, the kingdom u belong on earth determines ur kingdom after death, if u carry the body of Christ with God’s kingdom in you , u surely have the right to go to ur father’s house cos u already have his name in u.

americaninja1:
After death is judgement, the kingdom u belong on earth determines ur kingdom after death, if u carry the body of Christ with God’s kingdom in you , u surely have the right to go to ur father’s house cos u already have his name in u.

Good response. You should have allowed that dude to give his reply first. It would have show. how confused he is.

alBHAGDADI:
Another fake pastors exposes himself.

If a man who pastors a church with nothing less than a thousand members could say this, then it means the members are all doomed.

How dare he say Daddy Freeze speaks truth? The same Daddy e that says Muslims don't need Jesus to make heaven even when Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one cometh to the Father except through me"?

Well, I'll call what the pastor said about freeze a compliment to another false prophet.

What makes one a Christian? You are a Christian when you are Christ like. Most Muslims are more Christ like than majority of so called Christians we have today. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian. Your life style and choices to. Take for example how you are here judging people because of their religion and you think you will make heaven? Brother, you are far from it. The reason most people go to church is because you all want to hammer and you give yourselves the illusion you are serving God when what you serve is wealth. A lot of Muslims will give their last kobo to see a suffering man taken care of but how many church goers re willing to do dsame? On a Sunday, you see people waving at you for lift to where they re going but in your cars you drive past them like you didn't see. I experienced such a lot of times. I'll see someone I know that is going to my church and I'll try to flag them down even when its raining and you'll see them keep a straight face and pretend they didn't see you but a Muslim man will stop without you trying to flag him down and offer to give you lift. You think you are holier than Daddy freeze? No you are not.

FRZ anti-christ ministry is growing. Even some so-called pastors are already getting enlisted in his end time ministry!
Not shocked he has multitude of followers on Nairaland.

alBHAGDADI:
Another fake pastors exposes himself.

Why is he a fake pastor?..... and Oyedepo not? ... I want to learn how to recognize a fake pastor. Feel free to pretend you didn't read this.

INDUSTRIALFAN:
What makes one a Christian? You are a Christian when you are Christ like. Most Muslims are more Christ like than majority of so called Christians we have today. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian. Your life style and choices to. Take for example how you are here judging people because of their religion and you think you will make heaven? Brother, you are far from it. The reason most people go to church is because you all want to hammer and you give yourselves the illusion you are serving God when what you serve is wealth. A lot of Muslims will give their last kobo to see a suffering man taken care of but how many church goers re willing to do dsame? On a Sunday, you see people waving at you for lift to where they re going but in your cars you drive past them like you didn't see. I experienced such a lot of times. I'll see someone I know that is going to my church and I'll try to flag them down even when its raining and you'll see them keep a straight face and pretend they didn't see you but a Muslim man will stop without you trying to flag him down and offer to give you lift. You think you are holier than Daddy freeze? No you are not.

It still doesnt change the fact that they are all going to hell. Heaven is made for Christians alone and God is a Christian. He created the world with diverse tribes, religions etc so all of them will eventually go to hell if they dont become a Christian. Isnt our God wonderful? Aren't Christians very special ?

americaninja1:
i love this, wen d bible say the kingdom is at hand, it doesn’t mean the kingdom is few years away, it simple means the kingdom is with you already, u holding it in ur hands u don’t nid to go miles again lookin for a lost kingdom, d kingdom is the result of ur day to day activities, Jesus came to bring the kingdom to us, he didn’t take it away from us. Nobody can help u build ur kingdom only u can build it. Ur kingdom is at hand. Don’t b fooled

you have said it all, God bless you sir.
Until nigerian christians know this, they will never exercise their right here on this earth

Originalsly:
Why is he a fake pastor?..... and Oyedepo not? ... I want to learn how to recognize a fake pastor. Feel free to pretend you didn't read this.

Both of them are false prophets

alBHAGDADI:
He's the one that wrote the Bible.

That's why he's able to say Muslims who deny the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ are also going to heaven.

Funny you.

even God has given up on these ones. Leave them to their fables and deceits. Put your strength into better things that will produce results. They've heaped upon themselves destruction already.

Godspeed mate, Godspeed

Bonapart:
even God has given up on these ones. Leave them to their fables and deceits. Put your strength into better things that will produce results. They've heaped upon themselves destruction already.

Godspeed mate, Godspeed

Thanks

alBHAGDADI:
Don't you get it, where do we go when we die with heaven inside of us?

1.you aint go no where, you will be resurrected back to this earth when you die.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

2.you will be resurrected with a new body, your soul will be given a new body,
1 cor15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body(having resemblance of your new parent)
Also
1 cor15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

3.you will be born back to this earth as a new born baby in the womb of another woman who is christian who continues in the christian faith.
1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

4. when you grow old and die,you will be given another body and be born again into this world and the cycle continues like that forever, no end, except along the line in your life you fail to continue in the christian faith by denyung christ and join other religion other than christianity which is not possible, because you have been groomed by your parents from childhood to be christians like them.

5. This trend has been like this since jesus resurrected 2000 years ago. That means, possibly you might be abraham, isaac or jacob who knows? and you have been living on this earth since 2000 years ago, only that you have been changing parents to this your current daddy and mummy.

6. By this, the eternal life adam and eve lost from the beginning is restored back to this earth though christ
1 cor 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.

7. Certainly, the cycle continues forever and ever on this earth, no end.

alBHAGDADI:
Why not show me the wrong?

Plz go back to reread your write up again BTW if you have personal issue with FRZ go and sort it out... Stop all this because his teaching his view..

P.s
I don't support frz either are mine rooting pastors..

alBHAGDADI:
A double edged sword cuts either both sides. As Christ's word cut the Pharisees who were false teachers in his days, so it does to Freeze a false teacher today. Except you want to tell me that the words of Jesus are to remain in his time and no more relevant today. Well, such can only come from a disciple of freeze, not from a Christian who follows Jesus.

How I'm I attacking freeze out of emotions? Stop false accusations.

for your info freeze has been preaching for a very long time now, i first heard about him on radio in 2015, this is 2019 now, he is still preaching and no two edged cutlass or whatever has cut him.
And guess what?
He is having more followers now than ever, many of which do not totally agree on everything he is saying and that is how its suppose to be.

As an educated person you dont have to agree totally on what pastors are saying. You have to read your bible for yourself and dig out the truth and be free.

paxonel:
for your info freeze has been preaching for a very long time now, i first heard about him on radio in 2015, this is 2019 now, he is still preaching and no two edged cutlass or whatever has cut him.
And guess what?
He is having more followers now than ever, many of which do not totally agree on everything he is saying and that is how its suppose to be.

As an educated person you dont have to agree totally on what pastors are saying. You have to read your bible for yourself and dig out the truth and be free.

It is not by how far but by how well. He has followers on social media doesn't mean he's preaching the truth. Muhammad the false prophet has a billion followers, does that make him a preacher of truth?

When someone starts saying something that contradicts the Bible and he refused to change even after he's made to see the error he's making, then it becomes clear that he's intentionally disseminating the error to fool people. That's freeze for you.

paxonel:
1.you aint go no where, you will be resurrected back to this earth when you die.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

2.you will be resurrected with a new body, your soul will be given a new body,
1 cor15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body(having resemblance of your new parent)
Also
1 cor15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

3.you will be born back to this earth as a new born baby in the womb of another woman who is christian who continues in the christian faith.
1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

4. when you grow old and die,you will be given another body and be born again into this world and the cycle continues like that forever, no end, except along the line in your life you fail to continue in the christian faith by denyung christ and join other religion other than christianity which is not possible, because you have been groomed by your parents from childhood to be christians like them.

5. This trend has been like this since jesus resurrected 2000 years ago. That means, possibly you might be abraham, isaac or jacob who knows? and you have been living on this earth since 2000 years ago, only that you have been changing parents to this your current daddy and mummy.

6. By this, the eternal life adam and eve lost from the beginning is restored back to this earth though christ
1 cor 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.

7. Certainly, the cycle continues forever and ever on this earth, no end.

This is the biggest heresy I've heard in a while.

ollah1:
It still doesnt change the fact that they are all going to hell. Heaven is made for Christians alone and God is a Christian. He created the world with diverse tribes, religions etc so all of them will eventually go to hell if they dont become a Christian. Isnt our God wonderful? Aren't Christians very special ?

lmao I see what you did there.