hensben:
You are not getting it. Barca will still bounce with or without Pep since they are already a formidable club with financial power. But can you say same for Porto or Inter Milan? Real Madrid were failing in transfer dealings and on the pitch when Mou took over, took them to three semi finals immediately, won La Liga during this cause. Now that’s an upgrade, he gave the team believe again.

Because you're God who knows the future right?

Can you explain to me why no coach has won the sextuple?

hensben:
But he will need 10 players to win epl for us. Check book thingsz

He has to sell useless players like Hazard, Willian Luiz, Rudiger, Azpilicueta, Alonso etc and replace them with players who can fit to his style of play.


Anything wrong with that?

popizaino:



That is not an excuse for having Ronaldo and failing to win the ucl with all his hype.

That is not an excuse for having two previous ballon d'or winners in your team and failing to dominate the league you all termed to be inferior to the English league.

Mourinho won UCL with Porto and Inter whilst playing players with lesser experience and skills than Ronaldo so that’s not a point. If he’d remained at Madrid there’s a high chance he’d have won it.

If Laumdeuter can affirm that Pep “dominated” the EPL with one title and 100 points, why isn’t the same courtesy extended to Mourinho who achieved the same feat in Spain?

TLona1:



He has to sell useless players like Hazard, Willian Luiz, Rudiger, Azpilicueta, Alonso etc and replace them with players who can fit to his style of play.


Anything wrong with that?

You go worse pass Pep if you be coach. You don’t just overhaul team, to the extent of selling Hazard, fans favorite and best player in the team and one of the best if not the best in the league. You will be unsettled if you do that and won’t last six months in the job.

TLona1:



He has to sell useless players like Hazard, Willian Luiz, Rudiger, Azpilicueta, Alonso etc and replace them with players who can fit to his style of play.


Anything wrong with that?

Hazard is a useless player? And here I thought we had reached an understanding.

TLona1:


Because you're God who knows the future right?

Can you explain to me why no coach has won the sextuple?

But Enrique, who As Roma sacked won five. What does that tell you? As far as Messi is happy and on a course for another ucl, any Barca coach at the time will have high hope of winning UCL.

TLona1:


Because you're God who knows the future right?

Can you explain to me why no coach has won the sextuple?

Sorry, what’s a sextuple? 6 trophies in one season? How?

Can you list these trophies and the seasons they were won? Cos I’m not understanding.

TLona1:


Because you're God who knows the future right?

Can you explain to me why no coach has won the sextuple?

Because they always do post or pre pep. They have the finance and quality players, sometimes it is the mentality of the players that get distracted, the quality is always there. This is one of the reason for new coach; fresh idea and personality.

Unlimited22:

Hazard is a useless player? And here I thought we had reached an understanding.

hensben:
You go worse pass Pep if you be coach. You don’t just overhaul team, to the extent of selling Hazard, fans favorite and best player in the team and one of the best if not the best in the league. You will be unsettled if you do that and won’t last six months in the job.

As a coach, if a player doesn't fit your style of play regardless of how talented he is, what will you do?

TLona1:



As a coach, if a player doesn't fit your style of play regardless of how talented he is, what will you do?

Are you aware every club have their transfer policy. Not all clubs have sheik monsour or is pep Frank Lampard or Terry that can do whatever he want like in his coaching days at Barca, by selling Eto’o and bringing in Ibrahimovich and then sold Ibra the following season. Na FIFA mode.

Leyqute:


Sorry, what’s a sextuple? 6 trophies in one season? How?

Can you list these trophies and the seasons they were won? Cos I’m not understanding.

Okay.

In England for instance, if Ole wins the UCL, EPL and FA Cup then he has won the treble. Now, when he goes on the next season to win the UEFA super cup, Community Shield and Club world cup then he has won the SEXTUPLE.

Guardiola in his first year in Barca won the UCL, La Liga, Copa Del Rey, Super Cup, Supercopa and club world cup after Barca didn't win any trophy for 2 years consecutively and yet y'all are tagging him as "fraud".

It doesn't make sense I must say.

hensben:
Are you aware every club have their transfer policy. Not all clubs have sheik monsour or is pep Frank Lampard or Terry that can do whatever he want like in his coaching days at Barca, by selling Eto’o and bringing in Ibrahimovich and then sold Ibra the following season. Na FIFA mode.

What I'm saying in essence is that if players can't fit to your style of play as a coach, sell them off and replac them with the ones that can.

That was what Pep did at City and will do should he appointed as Chelsea's manager.

hensben:
Because they always do post or pre pep. They have the finance and quality players, sometimes it is the mentality of the players that get distracted, the quality is always there. This is one of the reason for new coach; fresh idea and personality.

So with this your nonsense logic, we can say Madrid was always going to bounce back with or without Mourinho because they had the finance.


You will set trap for yourself and still enter the trap intentionally.

TLona1:


What I'm saying in essence is that if players can't fit to your style of play as a coach, sell them off and replac them with the ones that can.

That was what Pep did at City and will do should he appointed as Chelsea's manager.

Yes but not a core player like Hazard in the team who is still in his peak. I agree he will sell Willian. But I think Rudiger, Luiz, azpilicueta are his kind of players.

TLona1:


So with this your nonsense logic, we can say Madrid was always going to bounce back with or without Mourinho because they had the finance.


You will set trap for yourself and still enter the trap intentionally.

In Madrid case, it was not a mentality issue but the board who were signing anything perceived to be talent, never mind how they don’t fit into the team and there was no structured team to build on. Barca have the structure and quality, all thanks to their board who rightly invested into the academy. As I said before, it was just a mentality issue orchestrated by Ronaldinho lost of form due to his irregular behavior and he was the star man of the team so it affected the locker room.

popizaino:



That is not an excuse for having Ronaldo and failing to win the ucl with all his hype.

That is not an excuse for having two previous ballon d'or winners in your team and failing to dominate the league you all termed to be inferior to the English league.

Maybe if Messi wasn't in Barca he would have dominated the league by winning laliga with 900 points.

We have seen Mou winning ucl with different types of players. We are waiting for Fraudiola to do same, with budget of Uganda spent on quality players. It's not too big to ask from a sextuple coach.

hensben:
In Madrid case, it was not a mentality issue but the board who were signing anything perceived to be talent, never mind how they don’t fit into the team and there was no structured team to build on. Barca have the structure and quality, all thanks to their board who rightly invested into the academy. As I said before, it was just a mentality issue orchestrated by Ronaldinho lost of form due to his irregular behavior and he was the star man of the team so it affected the locker room.

Yes and when Pep came he reorganized the team and put a different mentality in them, turning a Manchester United reject like Pique to a world class player, a young Busquets to a very intelligent DM and bringing out the real beast in Messi.

Throughout Pep's stay at Barca, Messi won the ballon d'or.

TLona1:


Because you're God who knows the future right?

Can you explain to me why no coach has won the sextuple?

If Mou has stayed with Inter after winning the treble, he probably will have won the Supercoppa Italia, UEFA super cup and club world cup.

If Jupp had stayed with Bayern after winning the treble, he definitely would have won the DFL super cup, Uefa cup and club World Cup.

Rest.

TLona1:



As a coach, if a player doesn't fit your style of play regardless of how talented he is, what will you do?

I'm a big fan of Guardiola and his football but in no world would hazard not fit his style of play.

TLona1:



Yes and when Pep came he reorganized the team and put a different mentality in them, turning a Manchester United reject like Pique to a world class player, a young Busquets to a very intelligent DM and bringing out the real beast in Messi.

Throughout Pep's stay at Barca, Messi won the ballon d'or.

Pep met Puyol, Marquez, Toure Yaya, iniesta, Xavi and a very talented footballer in Messi who was already third world best footballer in 2007. With this player around, it was very easy for pep to build on.

Leyqute:


Mourinho won UCL with Porto and Inter whilst playing players with lesser experience and skills than Ronaldo so that’s not a point. If he’d remained at Madrid there’s a high chance he’d have won it.

If Laumdeuter can affirm that Pep “dominated” the EPL with one title and 100 points, why isn’t the same courtesy extended to Mourinho who achieved the same feat in Spain?

I am not for whatever ramdeuter says I'm only responsible for my comments.


There is no probability that Claudio ranieri is going to win league with bigger teams because he won with an inferior Leicester city side.pelligrini also got to the ucl semi finals with Villarreal so if he hed remained and allowed to fill in some German machines from the world cup he would also have passed the round of 16 with real Madrid too and probably win it too.

larride:


If Mou has stayed with Inter after winning the treble, he probably will have won the Supercoppa Italia, UEFA super cup and club world cup.

If Jupp had stayed with Bayern after winning the treble, he definitely would have won the DFL super cup, Uefa cup and club World Cup.

Rest.

Lol.
Like how Enrique stayed and won every other trophies available after winning the treble abi? or how fergie won the remaining trophies when he completed the treble in 1999 abi ?

airmark:


Maybe if Messi wasn't in Barca he would have dominated the league by winning laliga with 900 points.

We have seen Mou winning ucl with different types of players. We are waiting for Fraudiola to do same, with budget of Uganda spent on quality players. It's not too big to ask from a sextuple coach.

Maybe if Ronaldo wasnt in real Madrid and messi wasnt in barca too pep would have been having two more ucl without messi to his name .


I have also seen pep Guardiola beasting Mourinho in a league they claim Mourinho had the upper hand and experience in it.

TLona1:


Okay.

In England for instance, if Ole wins the UCL, EPL and FA Cup then he has won the treble. Now, when he goes on the next season to win the UEFA super cup, Community Shield and Club world cup then he has won the SEXTUPLE.

Guardiola in his first year in Barca won the UCL, La Liga, Copa Del Rey, Super Cup, Supercopa and club world cup after Barca didn't win any trophy for 2 years consecutively and yet y'all are tagging him as "fraud".

It doesn't make sense I must say.

His first year or his first season? Cos you can’t win UCL AND World Club Cup in a single season, unless you won the previous UCL, and Pep didn’t win consecutive UCL trophies. Same with the SupaCup and Supercopa.

TLona you’re confusing yourself. That’s why simple things aren’t making sense to you.

The only trophies Pep won in his first season at Barca are the UCL, La Liga and Copa del Rey. That’s a treble. There’s nothing like a “sextuple”.

popizaino:



I am not for whatever ramdeuter says I'm only responsible for my comments.


There is no probability that Claudio ranieri is going to win league with bigger teams because he won with an inferior Leicester city side.pelligrini also got to the ucl semi finals with Villarreal so if he hed remained and allowed to fill in some German machines from the world cup he would also have passed the round of 16 with real Madrid too and probably win it too.

Did Pellegrini win the UCL with two inferior sides in the past? Did he encounter and defeat tough teams to claim these titles?

Did Claudio Ranieri win the league title when all other top teams weren’t at their best? Did he do this repeatedly?

popizaino:



Maybe if Ronaldo wasnt in real Madrid and messi wasnt in barca too pep would have been having two more ucl without messi to his name .

No, as seen in Bayern and City. He cant do nadda without Messi.

popizaino:


Lol.
Like how Enrique stayed and won every other trophies available after winning the treble abi? or how fergie won the remaining trophies when he completed the treble in 1999 abi ?

Enrique won 5 trophies. He must be better than Zidane and the likes.

gensteejay:

Happy Ishtar/Eostre

larride:


If Mou has stayed with Inter after winning the treble, he probably will have won the Supercoppa Italia, UEFA super cup and club world cup.

If Jupp had stayed with Bayern after winning the treble, he definitely would have won the DFL super cup, Uefa cup and club World Cup.

Rest.

Don't use "IF" please.

Guardiola is the only coach in history to do so.

Period

popizaino:



I'm a big fan of Guardiola and his football but in no world would hazard not fit his style of play.

What makes you think so?

Leyqute:


His first year or his first season? Cos you can’t win UCL AND World Club Cup in a single season, unless you won the previous UCL, and Pep didn’t win consecutive UCL trophies. Same with the SupaCup and Supercopa.

TLona you’re confusing yourself. That’s why simple things aren’t making sense to you.

The only trophies Pep won in his first season at Barca are the UCL, La Liga and Copa del Rey. That’s a treble. There’s nothing like a “sextuple”.

Everybody knows Pep won the treble (UCL, La Liga and Copa Del Rey) in his first. It was this treble that made them play the UEFA Super cup, Supercopa and Club world cup which they won, making them win the Sextuple.

hensben:
Pep met Puyol, Marquez, Toure Yaya, iniesta, Xavi and a very talented footballer in Messi who was already third world best footballer in 2007. With this player around, it was very easy for pep to build on.

All these players didn't win a single trophy for 2 years.