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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 9:12pm On May 06, 2019
GMan650:
Hate him, like him, call him a knower of nothing. Jon Snow is still my man. No one is more just, more loyal and more lovely than he is. He's Ice and Fire..... This song is about him... I've been a fan since S1 and NOTHING, not even GRRM can make me dislike him.

#TeamJonSnow #HeIsWhatIsGoodForTheRealm

I'm also Team Arya tho...... Everyone else can die, I don't give a f but Jon and Arya are bae kiss kiss

Used to like Tyrion for his wits but he's currently witless but a part of me still likes him.

I feel for Dany tho, she struggled to get all of these only to see them crumble. She's done for!! All she ever loved was the Iron Throne... She even loved the Iron Throne more than Jon(that got me very very angry). She could have agreed that she and Jon ruled. If Jon were to be in her shoes, he would have gone for that option and that's why Jon is a very good leader.

CC: Yonce Magnifico2000 Isomerizm BRAINZBox BraniacX Gbola5 HanksAnuku AryaSand Vivipop Cybertext Everybody else
I like Jon, I really do. I also like Danny, they both have gone through hell and back. Well which of the characters haven't? Somehow, I have always known their path was going to cross right from the first episode in season one. I have been a supporter of Jonearys even before they met. I would love to see both of them together on the throne or none at all.
It's either Jonearys or none at all, I won't chose between them.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 9:12pm On May 06, 2019
AryaSand:


JON SNOW!

Thank you my sister grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 9:12pm On May 06, 2019
BraniacX:
well, riddle me this then, qhorin sold a fight to jon (we know he knows nothing but hell does he know how to use a long sword) but even with that decision and ghost savaging him to help Jon, Jon still had to fight for his life while at riverrun a Jamie chained to the stocks was almost pissing his pants when greywind bared his fangs at him, while this is not an assessment of his fighting abilities, do you think Jamie could continue a fight with Robb if greywind was chewing him up?
Jon or Qhorin?

Anyways, your question isn't about their individual fighting abilities which this discourse is fundamentally about. To answer your question, yes, I think Jaime would have continued a fight with Robb, if the wolf interfered.
Jaime simply had the brief chill of unexpectedly seeing a large wolf, coming at him while he was unprepared and unarmed. If your question is aimed at distinguishing between how Qhorin and Jaime reacted or would have reacted to disadvantages in combat, then I think the same Jaime, who after had had his hand cut off, still attempted to rescue Brienne from that bear, would of definitely done something tragic to Robb, with or without Greywind gnawing at him.

Mehn! It was a tad difficult reading your post. Punctuation, bro.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Anita01(f): 9:18pm On May 06, 2019
I love cercei she's my queen

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BraniacX(m): 9:19pm On May 06, 2019
Isomerizm:
Jon or Qhorin?

Anyways, your question isn't about their individual fighting abilities which this discourse is fundamentally about. To answer your question, yes, I think Jaime would have continued a fight with Robb, if the wolf interfered.

Mehn! It was a tad difficult reading that. Punctuation, bro.
my bad, qhorin. On Jamie continuing to fight with a direwolf's fangs sunk in his calf I think not! Jamie was a southern softie, a gallant fighter and great warrior but without that pain endurance madness/tenacity that made legends of people on the wall and beyond so i disagree with you
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 9:21pm On May 06, 2019
Magnifico2000:

Please what has Lord Varys done wrong? He has always been an advocate for the good of the realm.

What good of the realm?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 9:22pm On May 06, 2019
HanksAnuku:


Night King cannot cross the wall without a dragon.

Who facilitated the moronic plan that gave Night King a dragon?

Your guess is as good as mine cheesy
Tyrion did. He brought up the idea. Jon was ready to go back north with dragon glass and fight the dead with the armies he's got. Tyrion brought up the idea that cost us Viserion, the wall and some other things. Leave Jon out of this please.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 9:26pm On May 06, 2019
Vivipop:
Tyrion did. He brought up the idea. Jon was ready to go back north with dragon glass and fight the dead with the armies he's got. Tyrion brought up the idea that cost us Viserion, the wall and some other things. Leave Jon out of this please.

If Jon had stayed dead, then none of that would have happened.

Jon is the one that was running around tensioning people about Zombies that couldn't actually cross the wall that had kept them away for thousands of years.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 9:26pm On May 06, 2019
Seun:

I think everyone in the north knows that Tormund loves Brienne. It's no secret. Brienne knows it too, but she is disgusted by his wildness.
He could've been a wildling with a difference. Women often times fall in love with men that disgust them. grin I never for one saw him express his feelings to her. I knew he genuinely loved her going by how he was fond of her, or stealing glances from a distance. Jamie didn't do half of what he did. I expected him to have shoved Jamie out of the way, instead of giving up.

Now, Jamie breaks her heart when she could've had a happy ending with Tormund. Chai! grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 9:31pm On May 06, 2019
HanksAnuku:


If Jon had stayed dead, then none of that would have happened.

Jon is the one that was running around tensioning people about Zombies that couldn't actually cross the wall that had kept them away for thousands of years.
If Jon had stayed dead, there wouldn't have been a problem. They'd all be dead without a single warning. The power that stopped the night king from crossing the wall became powerless immediately Bran went south after being marked by him.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ksslib(m): 9:32pm On May 06, 2019
GMan650:


Drogon weaved all those arrows shot at it. Rhaegal if fit might have been able to weave those damned arrows. My thoughts tho
You are very correct Gman. Rheagal was still suffering from PTDD - Post Traumatic Dragon Disorder -- before he took to his last fatal flight. With enough time to recoup, his fatality could have been avoided.

However, to really understand the main cause of my dear Rhaegal's death, we have to go back to the cool, breezy morning of 1738 when Daniel Bernoulli released what is now known as "The Bernoulli Principle" in his highly acclaimed paper -- Hydrodynamica..

Bernoulli's principle states that as the velocity of air(or fluid) increases over the surface of an object, pressure decreases below. See Gman, anything that wants to remain in air must obey this principle. So how did poor Rheagal disobey Bernoulli.

It's simple.

Bernoulli discovered that the only reason birds can fly is because the shape of their wings allow air move very fast over the top and slow beneath, thus creating a very high pressure below the wing. This is why aircraft wings are specially designed & modified like an advanced bird's: to maintain a very high pressure below the wing.

This high air pressure that is created below the wing of a bird or aircraft acts as a thick blanket of air. So anytime you see an aircraft flying just know there is an invisible layer of high pressure air-blanket it is floating on below the wing that prevents it from falling.

Back to Rhaegal. If you notice, apart from suffering Post Traumatic Dragon Disorder, Rhaegal had large holes in one of his wings. As a matter of fact, the directors wanted us to take note of that. And Immidiately I saw this I knew kasala don burst!! I just kept shaking my head & screaming "Bernoulli.... Bernoulli" . My coursemates thought I was mad.

There's a reason special maintenance checks are carried on aircraft wings before & after every flight because the moment air starts leaking from the top wing, air pressure cannot be maintained below... .... bye bye!!

Asides from the PTDD, Rhaegal was basically a flying basket, and baskets.... cannot fly. The blanket of air pressure that could have kept it floating properly and manoeuvring danger like a boss was leaking badly & that affected Rhaegal's aerodynamics & concentration.

To compensate for the other perforated wing, poor Rhaegal had to put in a double shift throughout the entire flight to King's landing....and that affected his concentration when it mattered most.

The rest is history. Poor Rhaegal!!

All this could have been avoided had Illyrio smuggled some text books alongside the Dragon eggs he gave my poor baby, Danerys, as a wedding gift.

*** Wipes tears...

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 9:36pm On May 06, 2019
Vivipop:
If Jon had stayed dead, there wouldn't have been a problem. They'd all be dead without a single warning. The power that stopped the night king from crossing the wall became powerless immediately Bran went north after being marked by him.

can you please tell me when this happened?

Because Benjen Stark could not cross the wall even AFTER been was marked.


If the wall was powerless, why didn't the dead just cross? why did the night king have to take all the time and effort to break the wall?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 9:37pm On May 06, 2019
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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 9:42pm On May 06, 2019
Magnifico2000:

Cersei would make the world a better place.
Cersei lacks empathy. That isn't a characteristic of a good leader. She loves herself so much that she would rather trade her people that she lives contrary to what we see Jon do. Always giving himself up that people live. Would you want Cercei to rule you if you were a citizen of Winterfell?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 9:45pm On May 06, 2019
losprince:


Thank you for pointing those out, the show runners are now more interested in surprising and misdirecting the viewers than they are in building character arcs and developing compelling plot.

They are just throwing cheap tricks at us.
finally!..Sum1 said it..

its such a shame dey had to ruin dis perfectly grt series..Show was so intricate bt now it's all about mining reactions from fans...

So many loopholes d show is now a joke ...

Wehdone D & D...

So glad d show is endin...dey wld av made it anoda Grey's anatomy..

Grt in d beginning a total jape in d end...

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 9:45pm On May 06, 2019
HanksAnuku:


can you please tell me when this happened?

Because Benjen Stark could not cross the wall even AFTER been was marked.


If the wall was powerless, why didn't the dead just cross? why did the night king have to take all the time and effort to break the wall?

Benjen isn't Night King neither is he Bran.
Benjen was not marked. As a matter of fact, he isn't even human neither is he a wight. He was about to transition before dragon glass was shoved into his heart. So, we don't even know what he is even though he promised us he is still fighting for the humans...


As for the wall. That wall is freaking high. For all we know, the wights may not know how to climb the wall like ygritte, Jon and some wildlings did sometime. This is not the winterfell wall that they had to stack against each other to climb it. The wall is so high you wouldn't see where it stopped with the sky. Knight king bringing down the wall made it easy for the dead to pass. With or without the dragon bringing down the wall, the dead and the NK would have crossed to the other side as long as Bran went that way. Its just that without the barrier, it was just a piece of cake for them

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 9:45pm On May 06, 2019
Vivipop:
I like Jon, I really do. I also like Danny, they both have gone through hell and back. Well which of the characters haven't? Somehow, I have always known their path was going to cross right from the first episode in season one. I have been a supporter of Jonearys even before they met. I would love to see both of them together on the throne or none at all.
It's either Jonearys or none at all, I won't chose between them.

Dany as Queen and Jon as her husband and Commander of the Queen's Guard abi? Sansa will lose it and finally tell the whole world the truth. Lol!

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by shogz89: 9:48pm On May 06, 2019
HanksAnuku:


can you please tell me when this happened?

Because Benjen Stark could not cross the wall even AFTER been was marked.


If the wall was powerless, why didn't the dead just cross? why did the night king have to take all the time and effort to break the wall?

benjen is not a 3 eyed Raven.. Bejen was not marked, he was stabbed by the night king and left for dead before the children of the forest saved him from total death.. So technically benjen is a living dead that still has a human hear
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by J2381: 9:48pm On May 06, 2019
AryaSand:


Dany as Queen and Jon as her husband and Commander of the Queen's Guard abi? Sansa will lose it and finally tell the whole world the truth. Lol!
not if she's the lady of winterfell.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 9:49pm On May 06, 2019
Who else thinks Dany should have listened to Sansa? For once in the show, I supported Sansa. People don't rush into war. Imagine what being in a haste cost her. My happiness is, Tyrion didn't get killed by a bow and arrow while taking on the diplomatic approach.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by MyGeneration(m): 9:49pm On May 06, 2019
I have this feeling Drogon is a female. Before or even if it dies am suspecting it would have played eggs somewhere.

Who is with me
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 9:53pm On May 06, 2019
Vivipop:
Benjen isn't Night King neither is he Bran.
Benjen was not marked. As a matter of fact, he isn't even human neither is he a wight. He was about to transition before dragon glass was shoved into his heart. So, we don't even know what he is even though he promised us he is still fighting for the humans...


As for the wall. That wall is freaking high. For all we know, the wights may not know how to climb the wall like ygritte, Jon and some wildlings did simetime. This is not the winterfell wall that they had to stack against each other to climb it. The wall is so high you wouldn't see where it stopped with the sky. Knight king bringing down the wall made it easy for the dead to pass. With or without the dragon bringing down the wall, the dead and the NK would have crossed to the other side as long as Bran went that way. Its just that without the barrier, it was just a piss of cake for them

Stop talking nonsense

BENJEN: This is where I leave you.

BRAN: You're not coming with us?

BENJEN: The Wall is not just ice and stone. Ancient spells were carved into its foundations. Strong magic to protect men from what lies beyond. And while it stands, the dead cannot pass. I cannot pass.

—"Winds of Winter" (Game of Thrones, S06E10)

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 9:54pm On May 06, 2019
BraniacX:
my bad, qhorin. On Jamie continuing to fight with a direwolf's fangs sunk in his calf I think not! Jamie was a southern softie, a gallant fighter and great warrior but without that pain endurance madness/tenacity that made legends of people on the wall and beyond so i disagree with you
I modified my post, read it.

Your conclusion is basically a conjecture. There was no scene to prove or disprove you.

Your 'pain, endurance madness/tenacity' is a comparative one. And who's to say he doesn't have these qualities in superior amounts relative to Qhorin? Because there were no famed lords beyond the wall to speak of Jaime, or there was no testing opportunity for him?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by MyGeneration(m): 9:54pm On May 06, 2019
Do you know that, Tyrion Lannister, Dany Targaryan, John Aegon Targaryan, Jamie Lannister, Cersei Lannister were paid over 1million dollars for each of the season 8 episode's. lipsrsealed

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 9:57pm On May 06, 2019
LeSulk:


An omniscient plot device like Bran creates more plot holes for the writers than the plot twists he was intended to make. A similar reason why JK Rowling had to ditch the Time Turner and the Marauder's Map at some point in the Harry Potter series. Bran sees the past and present everywhere in the realms of Men. The best thing they should have done was to make him seek solitude in a big tree like the previous 3ER.

The Missandei issue is surprising too. She was born on an island so she most likely could swim to safety. She was probably knocked unconscious when she went below deck during the attack.

evrytin grt about dis series has bn ruined .....Bran is jst anoda casualty ...

Ok he can't see d future bt of course he knows d past n can experience d present..

Wats stoppin him from sending ravens to kingslandin whr he can see as well as eavesdrop on cersie's plans..

He cld av saved Viserion, missandei n a perfectly good fleet Dt Euron jst destroyed ....

Dude is completely pointless in d show nw ..Shld av taken him out along wit d NK

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by MyGeneration(m): 10:00pm On May 06, 2019
JhyMedex:


evrytin get about dis series has bn ruined .....Bran is jst anoda casualty ...

Ok he can't see d future bt of course he knows d past n can experience d present..

Wats stoppin him from sending ravens to kingslandin whr he can see as well as eavesdrop on cersie's plans..

He cld av saved Viserion, missandei n a perfectly good fleet Dt Euron jst destroyed ....

Dude is completely pointless in d show nw ..Shld av taken him our alone wit d NK
I swear. Why can't bran see into cerseis plans.

I believe the producers want to weaken Dany so John Snow would do the real job in taking kings landing
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by HanksAnuku: 10:10pm On May 06, 2019
shogz89:
benjen is not a 3 eyed Raven.. Bejen was not marked, he was stabbed by the night king and left for dead before the children of the forest saved him from total death.. So technically benjen is a living dead that still has a human hear

Hear it from the writers mouth gangan

"The wall's kept these things out for eight thousand years and there's no real reason it can't keep doing that unless something puts a hole in the Wall. There's one thing on the board from the beginning that is now big enough to do that and that's a dragon"

- DB Weiss

https://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2017/08/28/game-of-thrones-showrunners-on-season-7s-dramatic-ending
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 10:11pm On May 06, 2019
Endy10:
This episode messed me up real good. Didn't see that coming.

When that scorpion hit, did anybody deep down hope it was just a bad dream... Effect of Nigerian film grin
I swearugawd!..I cldnt process it 4 d first 5 secs...

Wen d last arrow hit viserion in d neck...my hrt sank!..

was genuinely pained! Can't say I'll mourn if any of d remanin characters meet dier ends..For Ghost mayb..

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Vivipop(f): 10:13pm On May 06, 2019
HanksAnuku:


Stop talking nonsense

BENJEN: This is where I leave you.

BRAN: You're not coming with us?

BENJEN: The Wall is not just ice and stone. Ancient spells were carved into its foundations. Strong magic to protect men from what lies beyond. And while it stands, the dead cannot pass. I cannot pass.

—"Winds of Winter" (Game of Thrones, S06E10)
You are not a wise person are you?
Let's assume I didn't see that boldened insult up there.

The magic, spells and what not carved into the foundation of the wall became powerless immediately Bran passed that wall with the mark of the NK.
You remember the cave where the late TER was with Bran, Meera and the children ? A spell was carved in it's foundation too, that spell became powerless as Bran was marked.
" NK(the dead) and not the wights, whitewalkers nor the inbetweens(Benjen) follows marked Bran wherever he goes."

In a simpler illustration, Bran is in room A with spells preventing the dead(NK alone) from entering. Bran gets marked and all the spells vanishes, now the dead(NK alone) can enter with his parties.
Night king is the dead being referred to, without him, every other thing that came through him is powerless, he can cross the wall alone but none of his progenies can cross the wall without him.
You should really know how to read and understand beyond literal meanings my friend

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 10:14pm On May 06, 2019
J2381:
not if she's the lady of winterfell.


You don't understand, I think she would rather see Jon as king and ruler of the 7kingdoms than Dany as Queen and ruler of the 7kingdoms.

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