Game of thrones just dey anger me with this attempt to turn Dany into a villian. Yes, she has made some mistakes but she has worked hard for this throne and she is definitely within rights. Every single one of her army, she earned it. No single royal house in the entire westeros gave her a hundred men. Now there are saying Jon has a claim. If he has claim, he should build his army not waiting for Dany to win the war and then he sits on the throne because he is a fucking targeyan.

And about Sansa, she is really dumb imo. Someone sacrificed a third of her entire army for you, the least you can do is at least respect and trust the person. If Sansa had what Dany had and the White Walkers with the army of the dead were attacking Dragonstone, would she have sent her armies there? If Dany decides to sit out this war in Dragonstone, she will be very fine. As depleted as her army is, Cersei can't attack her in Dragonstone, so she will be save. What about Winterfell? Will Cersei just sit in the Iron Throne without capturing winterfell or what is Sansa on?

Someone here is saying Dany was irrational for leaving winterfell. Your Hand sits with the man that murdered your father drinking wine and sharing jokes. The man you loved is there entertaining comments of sitting on the Iron Throne. The fucking house you fought for is giving you the eyes of an enemy. Abeg she has suffered enough. If she eventually dies as a villian, I will curse the hours I wasted watching this show.

Good morning

Magnifico2000:

She is right not to like Dany. You can't like everyone. But Dany brought her army North to save the North.
She should be grateful for that. Why would Arya even say they don't trust her. She trusted u all to being her army North.

They don't trust that she would make a good queen.
The above should even be understandable. They barely know her. But we still need to admit it that despite all her unsullied, dragons, dothraki...it was Arya Stack that struck the blow. If not for Arya, there's no way they'd have won that war.
So much for the mother of dragons.

Theflint1:
So it's GRRM's job to spot bloopers

Lmao, I could care less about Starbucks opening in winterfell. Classic movies have made mistakes before. This blooper was just the icing on the cake on what's been a shitshow of a season.

DP84:

I am not one to force my viewpoint down people's throats but there are those who see movies or shows and pay crucial attention to details. They love to know 'the how', 'the when' and 'the why' events happen. Beyond clashing of swords or the senseless gunslings, give or present a logical plot and don't assume the audience are as stupid as those who only look forward to plot twists and fight scenes.

1. Arya killed the NK - How? Till date, no clue.
2. Ser Bronn showed up at Winterfell in a crossbow and found the Lannister Brothers in a chamber - How did it make it past the wall?
3.Two huge, fierce aerial creatures and a rider fly right above ships but never spotted the enemy ships until Rheagal was shot out of sky multiple times. - How so?
4. Cersei paid Ser Bronn heavily to kill her two brothers but couldn't command her archers to kill Tyrion right at her doorstep. How?

I very much fancy the plot, the gore and violence and all. It doesn't mean I switch off my brain when I sit behind my screen to see each episode. This is not about a movie not going the way I want. This is about logic and common sense. Maybe you should drop your emotion and don your thinking cap when seeing the next episode.

Let me try to explain as much as I understand...
1) It has been said several times. Arya ran towards Bran after hearing she could shut blue eyes too. She got to Bran before the NK did, with her prowess in stealth and surprises, she swiftly made her moves towards the NK and got him right were she wanted.
We all know that Arya is the only person that can do this. When she took the face of a random girl, killed and cooked the Frey brothers in a pie and then served them to Walter Frey, nobody questioned how she achieved all that. Arya is that good.

2) Winterfell has just won a great war, they have been drinking and celebrating and little or no care is on the wall. What other worse thing could happen to them after defeating those undead? No one knows who Ser Bronn really is or might I say no one would bother about one man entering winterfell probably hiding his weapon after they just won a great war and in the mood of celebration. For all we know, he could have killed one or two soldiers to get the information of the Lannister brother's whereabout. That certainly wouldn't be his first time of "convincing reluctant soldiers to give up some information". I repeat, winterfell wall is not that heavily manned to have stopped Ser Bron from getting in. This is seen at the scene Jaimie rode out in the middle of the night towards kingslanding, that wall was shown to be with no soldier manning it.
3)Never say never or impossible, have you seen the last ship? Many things could have prevented Deanaerys and her small army from seeing the ambush, ranging from visibility to sheer carelessness? What about the presence of rocks and mountains? Besides, it's called an ambush for a reason. Nobody experret it, lol.
4) Have you not learned or noticed that Cerci is keen about poetic justice? Killing her enemy is not just enough, she craves the satisfaction in it. Remember The Queens Justice? She had many ways to kill Elleria and her daughter but she craved more, she wanted Olenna's death to be somewhat specifically brutal, she saved that silent sister for the death she wants for her. Cerci wants what she wants, she will not have it any other way. Poetic justice for her treacherous brothers, nothing short of that.

All these are my humble opinions please....

You drop your comment, you log your attention seeking alternates to like them all.

Your last useless post had 1 like, 5 minutes later, 8 likes

I just checked your alternates, their last seen made me burst into laughter.

Vivipop:
Let me try to explain as much as I understand...
1) It has been said several times. Arya ran towards Bran after hearing she could shut blue eyes too. She got to Bran before the NK did, with her prowess in stealth and surprises, she swiftly made her moves towards the NK and got him right were she wanted.
We all know that Arya is the only person that can do this. When she took the face of a random girl, killed and cooked the Frey brothers in a pie and then served them to Walter Frey, nobody questioned how she achieved all that. Arya is that good.

2) Winter fell has just won a great war, they have been drinking and celebrating and little or no care is on the wall. What other worse thing could happen to them after defeating those undead? No one knows who Served Bronn really is or might I say no one would bother about one man entering winterfell probably hiding his weapon after they just won a great war and in the mood of celebration. For all we know, he could have killed one or two soldiers to get the information of the Lannister brother's where about. That certainly wouldn't be his first time of "convincing reluctant soldiers to give up some information". I repeat, winter fell wall is not that heavily manned to have stopped Ser Bring from getting in. This is seen at the scene Jaimie rode out in the middle of the night towards kingslanding, that wall was shown to be with no soldier mannning it.
3)Never say never or impossible, have you seen the last ship? Many things could have prevented Deanaerys and her small army from seeing the ambush, ranging from visibility to surface angle of the sea. What if the sea level isn't even? What about the presence of rocks and mountains? Besides, it's called an ambush for a reason. Nobody experret it, lol.
4) Have you not learned or noticed that Cerci is keen about poetic justice? Killing her enemy is not just enough, she craves the satisfaction in it. Remember The Queens Justice? She had many ways to kill Elleria and her daughter but she craved more, she wanted Olenna's death to be somewhat specifically brutal, she saved that silent sister for the death she wants for her. Cerci wants what she wants, she will not have it any other way. Poetic justice for her treacherous brothers, nothing short of that.

All these are my humble opinions please....

Your opinions sweet my balls!

AryaSand:


Let's not forget Cersie is her father's daughter, she is very Calculative although i'm not ruling out a traitor being in Dany's camp too sha.
Tyrion got to know about the baby when they all went to king's Landing to show Cersie proof about the Undead.

Lord varys may be the traitor,he has alway been greedy and cuning like lord bealish

Sansa has always been envious. I can't forget the look on her face when her father's 'bastard', Jon, was made King in s06.

I don't understand this show again.

Why kill off a dragon like that? I get it both writers want her to have only one dragon, but why this way? What kind of ambush is this.

aaaaaarrrrrgggggh

And they keep making Cercei have her way, i know show watcher will feel like killing Cersei through their phones/TV, I want her mutilated and chained at flea buttom.

ABSTRUSE:


You lot keep complaining about Sansa not liking Danny. Is she supposed to like the daughter of the mad king?
Is she supposed to like the woman who made her brother bend the knee to her?
By the way, she doesn't care about who sits in the Iron throne. All she wants is the independence of the North from the Capital.

OK let's say Dany sail back to esos to regroup, can your darling Sansa keeps the north away from Cersie by herself?? Which yeye independence when all the house in the north is gone and buried, only winterfell is standing in the north

IamD18:
You drop your comment, you log your attention seeking alternates to like them all.

Your last useless post had 1 like, 5 minutes later, 8 likes

I just checked your alternates, their last seen made me burst into laughter.

Whom are you referring to?

Magnifico2000:

Whom are you referring to?

The person got my message.

Go to the search box and type "Iamd18" you'll see him

oyetpel:
I don't understand this show again.

Why kill off a dragon like that? I get it both writers want her to have only one dragon, but why this way? What kind of ambush is this.

aaaaaarrrrrgggggh

And they keep making Cercei have her way, i know show watcher will feel like killing Cersei through their phones/TV, I want her mutilated and chained at flea buttom.

You lots should chill. Remember how Ramsay Bolton and Walter Fred died after having their ways? Cersei's death will be more painful.

IamD18:

The person got my message.

Go to the search box and type "Iamd18" you'll see him

What has uyiii done this time?

Magnifico2000:

What has uyiii done this time?

Do you think Sansa will later support Danny's ambition to the iron throne?

I have that feeling, what do you think?

Cybertext:


OK let's say Dany sail back to esos to regroup, can your darling Sansa keeps the north away from Cersie by herself?? Which yeye independence when all the house in the north is gone and buried, only winterfell is standing in the north

Truth of the matter is dat danny is too obsessed with the iron throne and she is damn manipulative. All she get is her claim that she is d rightful heir to the iron throne and fact is the iron throne supposed to be given to the most fairest of them all. We all know that Jon will be a much better ruler dan dany ryt from the 1st season. Forget abt the final season where it was revealed that dany can do anything to sit on the iron throne, dany since the beginning is portrayed at been over obsessed with the iron throne. Though i dont want her to be killed sha, im betting she will be so obsessed in the iron throne dat at d end she will voluntary surrender the throne to Jon after been adviced by her team and d dragon.

ABSTRUSE:


They don't trust that she would make a good queen.
The above should even be understandable. They barely know her. But we still need to admit it that despite all her unsullied, dragons, dothraki...it was Arya Stack that struck the blow. If not for Arya, there's no way they'd have won that war.
So much for the mother of dragons.

and without her army the war could have been a walkover for the Night king, arya couldn't have even got close to the Night king because she will be dead, the army of the dead would have been ten times their army ok, arya May kill the Night king ( totally badness) but the reason she could do that was because of Dany, so the real hero here IS Dany

Magnifico2000:

What has Uyii done this time?

Iamd18/donstan18/lordvaryx is an envious dim-witted creature and this act of his didn't begin here. It started in another thread, the best you can do for me here is to kill off his attention seeking prowess and if you must, follow my post to the thread I mentioned him. I don't want to derail here.

greetings bruv!

IamD18:

Do you think Sansa will later support Danny's ambition to the iron throne?

I have that feeling, what do you think?

Well. The season has just two episodes away from calling it a wrap. I don't think Sansa would support Danys ambition. The reasons are not far fetched.

1. Sansa knows Jon is a legitmate heir to the ironthrone and I feel that is why she told Tyrion that secret.
2. She knows this secret would divide Jon and Danny and cause a discord between them. Hence, she would want his former "bastard brother" to be the king of westeros.
3. Sansa thinks she is smarter and clever than everyone. Season 8 literally made it conspicuous. She feels she is sound politically which I don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is she asking Tyrion "what if there is another person?
4. Sansa wants to be politically relevant. Maybe she still wants to be Lady of winterfell or whatever. She knows she can only be this if Jon claims the iron Throne.

IamD18:

You lots should chill. Remember how Ramsay Bolton and Walter Fred died after having their ways? Cersei's death will be more painful.

definitely

Cinderallagirl:
and without her army the war could have been a walkover for the Night king, arya couldn't have even got close to the Night king because she will be dead, the army of the dead would have been ten times their army ok, arya May kill the Night king ( totally badness) but the reason she could do that was because of Dany, so the real hero here IS Dany

Just imagine that dany refuse to join the war, like cersei. The army of the dead would av wiped d north, then proceed to wipe out dany and her warriors, den wipe out the whole seven kingdoms. Wat im saying is that dany and d dragon joining the fight dos not make her any beta, she fought to stay alive just like every other warrior during that fight. The real hero of that movie will always be Jon. His character is such that no matter what he does, he is right and have the best interest of others in mind

Magnifico2000:

Well. The season has just two episodes away from calling it a wrap. I don't think Sansa would support Danys ambition. The reasons are not far fetched.

1. Sansa knows Jon is a legitmate heir to the ironthrone and I feel that is why she told Tyrion that secret.
2. She knows this secret would divide Jon and Danny and cause a discord between them. Hence, she would want his former "bastard brother" to be the king of westeros.
3. Sansa thinks she is smarter and clever than everyone. Season 8 literally made it conspicuous. She feels she is sound politically which I don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is she asking Tyrion "what if there is another person?
4. Sansa wants to be politically relevant. Maybe she still wants to be Lady of winterfell or whatever. She knows she can only be this if Jon claims the iron Throne.

You lave a lots of good points.

I don't even have a problem with Sansa not getting along with Danny. For me, that's how it should be. An average woman won't be happy to see her brother, a king, bend a knee for a woman. It's normal.

The question "What if there's another person" by Sansa could possibly mean that she's interested in the iron throne. It could.

ABSTRUSE:


They don't trust that she would make a good queen.
The above should even be understandable. They barely know her. But we still need to admit it that despite all her unsullied, dragons, dothraki...it was Arya Stack that struck the blow. If not for Arya, there's no way they'd have won that war.
So much for the mother of dragons.

Sansa, is that you? Brother, how dare you play down Dany's contributions during the war of the living and the dead? Without her dragons and armies, did you honestly think Arya would be able to get close to he Night King, let alone strike any yeye blow?

Arya herself admitted that Winterfell needed the Dragon queen as much as she needed the North. She's smart enough you know - to know she doesn't deserve all the credit - to know that there's enough glory to go round.

See why everyone loves Arya stark?

IamD18:
Danny did not save the North, she fought with the North to save the living, herself inclusive.

She did not even fight with them just to save the living, but to get their support from taking the iron throne.

she saved the north, she could have been like cersie and wait patiently for the north to be decemated or win the war either way she get the north, so you all should be grateful to Dany, she saved your asses

Rukkydelta:


Me too but she didn't listen cos she thought sansa advise was due to the fact she dislikes her. And Jon followed Dany without looking into Sansa point because he is in love with Dany and wants to prove he is by her side and don't want the Iron throne

Rhaeghal died because he was weak and haven't recovered like Dany listened to Sansa he could have still being alived. With most men dead and weak it will be difficult for her winning the seven kingdoms unless she wants to use fire to burn her enemies which will lead to innocent lives being killer

Rhaegal died because the spears came at him at a very high momentum, and he didn't notice early enough to dodge them. If the spears had hit a fit and healthy Rhaegal, he'd still have died.

Cinderallagirl:
she saved the north, she could have been like cersie and wait patiently for the north to be decemated or win the war either way she get the north, so you all should be grateful to Dany, she saved your asses

Please tell, how did she save the North?

IamD18:
Please tell, how did she save the North?

She gave them dragonglass and two dragons, as well as armies. Without these, the north would have fallen.

RuthlessLeader:

She gave them dragonglass and two dragons, as well as armies. Without these, the north would have fallen.

With or without a condition?

Cinderallagirl:
she saved the north, she could have been like cersie and wait patiently for the north to be decemated or win the war either way she get the north, so you all should be grateful to Dany, she saved your asses

She saved the north. No she didn't save the North.

IamD18:

With or without a condition?

It doesn't matter.

So doctors don't save people because they charge money?

RuthlessLeader:

It doesn't matter.

So doctors don't save people because they charge money?

Oga, it matters a lot.

Once you assist someone in achieving something with conditions and agreement of being rewarded, it can't be called HElP, it's a DEAL.

Saved which people exactly? The North or the living?