naturalwaves:

Hahahahaha. It is just 5 lines on my laptop. I guess you are on a phone.
Yeah, right! A superior mentality!

5 whole lines from your lappy still isn't 'summary enough'

I've watched football long enough to know that someone is just trying to be diplomatic. There are many football notables who have waged in on the Messi, Ronaldo debate. If we make a list of them and create two columns one each for Ronaldo and Messi, I'm sure people who understand and truly follow football will know which columns will be filled pretty quickly, and with the most notable and respected personalities of the game (I see you Le professor)

I raved about Ronaldo to my brothers earlier on around 07, 08, 09 as both a Barca fans. ( I gat take some shots ) Mind no, I was no Man Utd fan. They keep saying: you never watch Messi! I have watched Messi, but I just didn't understand what they were trying to let me see.

But my eyes became clear 09. As a Chelsea fan, I really got to see Messi for what he truly was when Barca played Chelsea 2009(fvck ovrebo sha ). I've watched Ronaldo tire but I've never ever felt the way I did when Messi touches the ball in that Barca game. I was like that was the first time I really really really saw Messi with a football.

For the next few years, Messi became better at all what I saw in that game. Ronaldo all but became a GOAL MACHINE.

The Messi - Ronaldo story is parallel now because of their identical achievements.

However, if you're more concerned about the Football that this two play, they're both very different players. In my personal opinion, they're so different that it's actually unbelievable people still think it's fair comparing their true footballing ability.

What do I mean?

[b] In football, there are roles. Players (attacking) are actually defined by their ability to perform these roles like goalscoring, playmaking, creating, dribbling, awareness, vision and so on. There are many great attackers in the game presently and in history. But you normally find them having good ability of most of the above roles while being excellent in one or at most two of the above-mentioned roles.

Ronaldo is, undoubtedly one of the greatest goalscorers of all time. And as said earlier, he has good grasps of most of the roles involved in attacking play. But that's it. As expected, and following trends already established by players past and present, you can be the best in everything.

Or, can you?

Yes. You. Can. If. You're. MESSI. In this generation, Messi is the best passer of the ball, the best creator, the best playmaker, the best dribbler, has the awareness, has the best vision, the best and most insane technique, and of course, still the best goalscorer of this Generation (games to goal ratio a truer stats here)

I hope you can now see why I find it hard to understand the comparisons between this two totally different football players in many ramifications. [/b]

Even Ronaldo would not compare himself to Messi.

Akemim:
Ronaldo and Messi makes other players look average... Gone are those days when football was just for fun... Now the statistics really counts... These two guys have raised the bar...

not after buying a
player for 200million pounds you expect him to play entertainment football

tesppidd:
5 whole lines from your lappy still isn't 'summary enough'

Okay.
You win!

chiboy1116:
yea , Ronaldo I believe has more nigerian fans .

not only in Nigeria bro, world wide!

;DEven some Barcelona fans are now speaking against Messi thereby supporting cr7 because of d heart break cuzd by d loss against Liverpool. Anyway,Messi alone can't make a forest.Just because of dat loss made dem to forget his past impacts.


I just dey pass o.But Messi still d best.

jelel6:


But my eyes became clear 09. As a Chelsea fan, I really got to see Messi for what he truly was when Barca played Chelsea 2009(fvck ovrebo sha ). I've watched Ronaldo tire but I've never ever felt the way I did when Messi touches the ball in that Barca game. I was like that was the first time I really really really saw Messi with a football

The moment you said this, there was no need reading the remainder of your write-up as it is evident it will be laced with bias. In the match you are referring to, Jose Bosingwa was dedicated to man-mark Messi and he clipped the wings of Messi. In the entire 90 minutes, I doubt if Messi got a chance to even get close/ enter into Chelsea's box 18 up to three times(I think he only had the chance to get in just once in the entire 90 minutes).That match was one of the worst performances of Messi. They clipped his wings well and Messi became toothless in that game. In fact, in that game, almighty Barcelonia had just 1 shot on target

If VAR had existed then, Barcelonia would not have even smelled finals with the useless Ovrebo referee shunning two clear handballs that even a blind man could spot from miles away.
Maybe you were sleepy when you watched the match.

stanley000:
Like for messi the goat, share for messi aigbe

This is so funny aswear

miketayo:


Nope he meant Messi is the best in the right situation, but Ronaldo excel in any situation.
I would rather have Ronaldo in my team.

That is why he is a good businessman.
he his thinking about life outside football with different investment

Simeone was a world class defender and now a coach and an Argentine... His analysis is absolutely spot on! This is one of the reasons why Messi has not been able to win a major trophy with his country; he tries really hard but sometimes he just does not have enough when things are not going for his team. Messi has actually improved in the last 5 years or so; and he could have won the World Cup for Argentina but he did not have the something that Ronaldo and Maradona has to drive his team to glory.

Messi can also win a match on his own and regularly does what Ronaldo does but he plays for Barcelona... And that is the biggest difference so far with Messi and his achievements. Even if he takes on a whole defence and scores a wonder goal; the defenders cannot simply just gang up on him because you have so many other attacking players in Barcelona. Since, Suarez (and departed Neymar) came to Barcelona, Messi has surpassed even his own previous greatness. Because the attacjking options at Barcelona is phenomenal; so his the midfield and the attacking and scoring left and right backs.

Ronaldo has played for teams where the embarrassment of attacking players is not as rich as Barcelona. Even when he was at Madrid, some of the players blew hot and cold... For Portugal, he has played with some very good players at a young age and his exploits at United was not with Peak United.

Ronaldo is not as gifted or talented as Messi but he has bigger balls and a lot more flexible and rarely goes missing...

naturalwaves:


The moment you said this, there was no need reading the remainder of your write-up as it is evident it will be laced with bias. In the match you are referring to, Jose Bosingwa was dedicated to man-mark Messi and he clipped the wings of Messi. In the entire 90 minutes, I doubt if Messi got a chance to even get close/ enter into Chelsea's box 18 up to three times(I think he only had the chance to get in just once in the entire 90 minutes).That match was one of the worst performances of Messi. They clipped his wings well and Messi became toothless in that game. In fact, in that game, almighty Barcelonia had just 1 shot on target

If VAR had existed then, Barcelonia would not have even smelled finals with the useless Ovrebo referee shunning two clear handballs that even a blind man could spot from miles away.
Maybe you were sleepy when you watched the match.

Next time, try to dispute disputable points or milestones. In a paragraph where I used the first person pronoun "I" numerous times, I think it's folly to try and "see" what it was I actually saw. Maybe, for the sake of argument, you saw a not have a shot on target. But what I saw was a team of 11 players camped just outside their penalty box while instructing a full-back, a central midfielder, and a central back to prevent ONE PLAYER, a certain 20-21 years old, from playing his best game. I think, from where most people with fairness stand, fashioning a carefully and strictly followed gameplan by a team boasting the Lampards, and Ballacks, and Esseins, and Terrys, and the Drogbas, just to stifle the influence of ONE 20 year old, that has to count for something when we are talking about the best. Don't it? Perspective

chrisj2:
Simeone was a world class defender and now a coach and an Argentine... His analysis is absolutely spot on! This is one of the reasons why Messi has not been able to win a major trophy with his country; he tries really hard but sometimes he just does not have enough when things are not going for his team. Messi has actually improved in the last 5 years or so; and he could have won the World Cup for Argentina but he did not have the something that Ronaldo and Maradona has to drive his team to glory.

Messi can also win a match on his own and regularly does what Ronaldo does but he plays for Barcelona... And that is the biggest difference so far with Messi and his achievements. Even if he takes on a whole defence and scores a wonder goal; the defenders cannot simply just gang up on him because you have so many other attacking players in Barcelona. Since, Suarez (and departed Neymar) came to Barcelona, Messi has surpassed even his own previous greatness. Because the attacjking options at Barcelona is phenomenal; so his the midfield and the attacking and scoring left and right backs.

Ronaldo has played for teams where the embarrassment of attacking players is not as rich as Barcelona. Even when he was at Madrid, some of the players blew hot and cold... For Portugal, he has played with some very good players at a young age and his exploits at United was not with Peak United.

Ronaldo is not as gifted or talented as Messi but he has bigger balls and a lot more flexible and rarely goes missing...

Ronaldo rarely goes missing because what's expected of him is that he scores. what's expected of Messi is that he scores and also assist others to also score. And also assist others to assist someone else to score. I wonder how many MAN OF The MATCh awards Ronaldo has actually won without him scoring! probably fewer than his BALLON DO'RS I think. JUST. A. GOALSCORER.

jelel6:


Next time, try to dispute disputable points or milestones. In a paragraph where I used the first person pronoun "I" numerous times, I think it's folly to try and "see" what it was I actually saw. Maybe, for the sake of argument, you saw a not have a shot on target. But what I saw was a team of 11 players camped just outside their penalty box while instructing a full-back, a central midfielder, and a central back to prevent ONE PLAYER, a certain 20-21 years old, from playing his best game. I think, from where most people with fairness stand, fashioning a carefully and strictly followed gameplan by a team boasting the Lampards, and Ballacks, and Esseins, and Terrys, and the Drogbas, just to stifle the influence of ONE 20 year old, that has to count for something when we are talking about the best. Don't it? Perspective

What was the achievement of Messi in that match that got you awed? I am shocked that of all the pletora of wonderful games he has engaged in, you pointed to one that was so so below par and that was why I opined that maybe you were sleepy when you watched the match.
That was one of the worst matches Messi ever played.........and for the records, Bosingwa was the one in charge of Messi and not like he was followed everywhere by the whole team. Jose Bosingwa dealt with him well.

Moreover, that a team has possession does not mean the team is in control......passing the ball aimlessly around amounted to nothing. In fact, Barcelonia had to depend on a late minute strike to stand any chance and of course, Chelsea pressed well and had another shot at goal before Pique handled the ball with his hands and the referee turned blind eyes. In that game, Chelsea was tactically superior and I repeat! Messi was no where to be found.

Ronaldo Versus Messi

My Opinion


#Ronaldo is a product of Hardwork while Messi is a product of Talent

#Ronaldo has many ways to score a goal while Messi's limited ways of scoring often come with impossible goals

#Ronaldo has more shooting power than Messi while Messi can dribble more than Ronaldo.

#Ronaldo can survive with a weak team if the weak team has a good number 3 while Messi can survive with a weak team if the team has a good number 9.

#Ronaldo can easily adjust and adapt to many patterns of football while Messi does not easily adjust and adapt but can try to change the pattern to suit his own.

#Messi can create more chances than Ronaldo while Ronaldo can convert more chances than Messi

#Ronaldo is simple with football and predictable while Messi is complex and unpredictable with football

#Ronaldo plays football as a Sport while Messi plays football as a Game

#Ronaldo understands football as a relay race while Messi understands football as a fight.

In all the two are good in what they do differently.

The duo are the best in the World.

Thanks.

Likes for team Messi & share for team Ronaldo. Assuming cr7 was the one that play against liverpool he wil definately score atleast a goal

jelel6:


Ronaldo rarely goes missing because what's expected of him is that he scores. what's expected of Messi is that he scores and also assist others to also score. And also assist others to assist someone else to score. I wonder how many MAN OF The MATCh awards Ronaldo has actually won without him scoring! probably fewer than his BALLON DO'RS I think. JUST. A. GOALSCORER.

If Messi had been "just a goal- scorer" in the second leg of the match against Liverpool and had managed to slot in just a goal or even a tap- in, Barcelonia would not be in such a terrible situation of letting go of a 3-0 first leg win. That match is one of the most embarrassing come backs in the history of football. Ronaldo is not just a goal scorer, he is far more than that. Like I said, you are a biased fellow.

Faslite:
Likes for team Messi & share for team Ronaldo. Assuming cr7 was the one that play against liverpool he wil definately score atleast a goal

His presence alone and the shouts of motivation to his team mates will not let then concede a whole 4 goals. What a great shame!
Messi lacks confidence, lacks will and lacks the characteristic of a captain yet, he wore the captain armband. Have you ever seen a captain that cannot even instruct his team mates? nor even clap to get them motivated nor shout at them when they are lagging? Giving someone the captain armband goes beyond how long the person has been in the team. It takes alot of guts and confidence and the captain must be someone that can gear up his team when the chips are down and not someone lacking in confidence and will-power.

Olumyco:
Ronaldo Versus Messi

My Opinion


#Ronaldo is a product of Hardwork while Messi is a product of Talent

#Ronaldo has many ways to score a goal while Messi's limited ways of scoring often come with impossible goals

#Ronaldo has more shooting power than Messi while Messi can dribble more than Ronaldo.

#Ronaldo can survive with a weak team if the weak team has a good number 3 while Messi can survive with a weak team if the team has a good number 9.

#Ronaldo can easily adjust and adapt to many patterns of football while Messi does not easily adjust and adapt but can try to change the pattern to suit his own.

#Messi can create more chances than Ronaldo while Ronaldo can convert more chances than Messi

#Ronaldo is simple with football and predictable while Messi is complex and unpredictable with football

#Ronaldo plays football as a Sport while Messi plays football as a Game

#Ronaldo understands football as a relay race while Messi understands football as a fight.

In all the two are good in what they do differently.

The duo are the best in the World.

Thanks.

Ronaldo is dual footed while Messi is one legged
Ronaldo is the best header/nodeer of the ball dead or alive while Messi does not come close
Messi has a better acceleraton than Ronaldo while Ronaldo has a better velocity.
You said Messi is not predictable? what a joke! When Messi holds the ball, he is highly predictable. If he gets the ball from the right, tries to drive in with his left foot and then bend a shot. If he gets it from the middle of the pack or anywhere near the 18, tries to exchange a 1-2, waits for the return and taps in. If he picks up the ball during counter, runs through the middle , moves sinusoidally till he gets a chance to sneak in a shot. If he picks up the ball from the right side of the midfield and no one in sight to exchange little passes with, he sends it to the LWF or the left side of midfield. If he faces the goal keeper one on one and there is a bit of space, he loops the ball. He is so so predictable. However, he is usually unstoppable most times.

sparog:



This is so funny aswear

lol never knew it would ganer so much shares

naturalwaves:

What was the achievement of Messi in that match that got you awed? I am shocked that of all the pletora of wonderful games he has engaged in, you pointed to one that was so so below par and that was why I opined that maybe you were sleepy when you watched the match.
That was one of the worst matches Messi ever played.........and for the records, Bosingwa was the one in charge of Messi and not like he was followed everywhere by the whole team. Jose Bosingwa dealt with him well.

Moreover, that a team has possession does not mean the team is in control......passing the ball aimlessly around amounted to nothing. In fact, Barcelonia had to depend on a late minute strike to stand any chance and of course, Chelsea pressed well and had another shot at goal before Pique handled the ball with his hands and the referee turned blind eyes. In that game, Chelsea was tactically superior and I repeat! Messi was no where to be found.

I cannot choose a match to make a point about Messi's ability. You've said Alot about Chelsea, Pique, Barcelona, tactical superiority, but still, no word about how Ronaldo is a better football player in comparison to Messi. None.

Stick to the argument and tell us apart from scoring 40 goals in a season, what Ronaldo does differently from say Suarez or Aguero, or Lewandowski or Kane? What?

Faslite:
Likes for team Messi & share for team Ronaldo. Assuming cr7 was the one that play against liverpool he wil definately score atleast a goal

I think it's easier waiting for crosses and scoring against Ajax and Athletico Than Liverpool. .

Everyone here supporting Ronaldo are all basically saying he's going to score against this or he'll score against that. At least, that confirms the fact he's only close or comparable to Messi when you talk about Scoring. He's not better oh, just comparable. Otherwise, he's pretty basic in other abilities some footballers are excellent at. Of course, in all the indices that constitutes attacking play, Messi is the best of his generation.

Pele of Brazil is better because these two guys have NEVER WON THE WORLD CUP FOR THEIR COUNTRIES.

walahi i no understand wetin the man talk

jelel6:


I cannot choose a match to make a point about Messi's ability. You've said Alot about Chelsea, Pique, Barcelona, tactical superiority, but still, no word about how Ronaldo is a better football player in comparison to Messi. None.

Stick to the argument and tell us apart from scoring 40 goals in a season, what Ronaldo does differently from say Suarez or Aguero, or Lewandowski or Kane? What?

Hahahahaha
You are drifting again. Now, you are comparing Ronaldo with Aguero, Lewandowski and Kane. You must be delusional to make such attempt. Are you so impervious to correction? You made an erroneous claim in which you can easily look up the statistics or watch the full match all over again and I quickly schooled you. Rather than take corrections, you are busy whimping up sentiments and now comparing Ronaldo to those that are below his par . I think you would make it as a comedian. I should not have paid much attention to you when you said the first time you watched/ saw Messi with the ball was in 2009, that means you are a kid if that is the case. You must have been in JSS or even primary school as at that time and I can see why your analysis is leaky.
Anyway, to answer your foolish question, mention one of those idiotas you put up there that has won just 1 Ballon D' Or award in their entire career. Ronaldo has been adjudged as the best footballer on planet earth 5 times and 2nd best footballer on planet earth 4 times. Mind you, the award was given by those who are knowledgeable about football and not some kind of sentimental folks like you.

DONADAMS:
not only in Nigeria bro, world wide!

nah , I don't think so , Messi has more fans in Europe (Ronaldo is loved in England and Portugal though), Asia and South America .

jelel6:


Ronaldo rarely goes missing because what's expected of him is that he scores. what's expected of Messi is that he scores and also assist others to also score. And also assist others to assist someone else to score. I wonder how many MAN OF The MATCh awards Ronaldo has actually won without him scoring! probably fewer than his BALLON DO'RS I think. JUST. A. GOALSCORER.

So just a goal scorer would have over 200 career assists

naturalwaves:

Hahahahaha
You are drifting again. Now, you are comparing Ronaldo with Aguero, Lewandowski and Kane. You must be delusional to make such attempt. Are you so impervious to correction? You made an erroneous claim in which you can easily look up the statistics or watch the full match all over again and I quickly schooled you. Rather than take corrections, you are busy whimping up sentiments and now comparing Ronaldo to those that are below his par . I think you would make it as a comedian. I should not have paid much attention to you when you said the first time you watched/ saw Messi with the ball was in 2009, that means you are a kid if that is the case. You must have been in JSS or even primary school as at that time and I can see why your analysis is leaky.
Anyway, to answer your foolish question, mention one of those idiotas you put up there that has won just 1 Ballon D' Or award in their entire career. Ronaldo has been adjudged as the best footballer on planet earth 5 times and 2nd best footballer on planet earth 4 times. Mind you, the award was given by those who are knowledgeable about football and not some kind of sentimental folks like you.

Lemme ignore every unnecessary blabbing until you got to the point where you attempted answering the question ( dodging it actually ).

Of course, Ronaldo has 5 Balloon D'or because he is the best goalscorer amongst that group. But the questions still stands, bar his phenomenal number of goals, he's your Lewandowski or Aguero or Suarez. Or tell us, what does he do differently? Score more goals.

Ehn, There are people who are more knowledgeable about football than me, I'll agree. People like...

Arsene Wenger.

Who's the best footballer on the world? MESSI

Who's the best footballer of ALL TIME? MESSI
Emphasis on ALL.

Wenger is not alone. There are countless football icons who have dared to not only compare Messi with Pele and Maradona, but (rightfully) place him above those two. Countless people. Even teammates of Ronaldo!

So, find those knowledgeable people you where talking about who DARED to put Ronaldo in the same breathe as Pele and Maradona. I can find 10 for Messi. Find one for Ronaldo. Just one and let's see who that is

jelel6:


Lemme ignore every unnecessary blabbing until you got to the point where you attempted answering the question ( dodging it actually ).

Of course, Ronaldo has 5 Balloon D'or because he is the best goalscorer amongst that group. But the questions still stands, bar his phenomenal number of goals, he's your Lewandowski or Aguero or Suarez. Or tell us, what does he do differently? Score more goals.

Ehn, There are people who are more knowledgeable about football than me, I'll agree. People like...

Arsene Wenger.

Who's the best footballer on the world? MESSI

Who's the best footballer of ALL TIME? MESSI
Emphasis on ALL.

Wenger is not alone. There are countless football icons who have dared to not only compare Messi with Pele and Maradona, but (rightfully) place him above those two. Countless people. Even teammates of Ronaldo!

So, find those knowledgeable people you where talking about who DARED to put Ronaldo in the same breathe as Pele and Maradona. I can find 10 for Messi. Find one for Ronaldo. Just one and let's see who that is

I was done with you long ago.
Take heart!

CAN WE JUST VISUALIZE THESE 2 (ALIENS)ON THE SAME TEAM

badboymase:
CAN WE JUST VISUALIZE THESE 2 (ALIENS)ON THE SAME TEAM

I was just thinking about this.

Messi and Ronaldo in one team. OMG!