₦airaland Forum

this man has lost it. . . Christians should not judge him, but Muslims and Traditionalist can judge him right? he is not even concerned about the alleged crime Marley committed, he still found a way to bring Christians and Pastors to the discussion. There are some fake pastors agreed, but he is trying to unsettle Christianity.

And daddy freeze who is afraid to judge Nigerian corrupt leaders lest they come for him or Muslims lest they come for him should not judge Nigerian Christians. Foolishly coward man

Inteltower:
I have observed your arguments so let's by logic
enlighten you on the Existence of God .am a grad
sociologist.
in studying man in the society... here are basic
facts
man is inherently social & subject to being social &
by social he relates with his fellow man,
environment & resources, & reasonably man can't
survive or progress long being anti social.
with what has been established above we can draw
to this conclusion where there is Social there is
dependency, where there is dependency there is
functionalism, where there is functionalism there is
order, where there is order there is a design.
this will lead us back to the concept "Social"
I have developed a sociological theorem called
"social orderism" in here it emphasizes that the
universe itself began from an existencial design
(contenders: Darwinism, Creationism, Big bang
theory).

First, Darwinism says NOTHING about the origin of the universe or the planet for that matter. Evolution deals with what happened immediately after the first life was formed. So your first premise is flawed.

Inteltower:
The first & last fail to concur to the earlier linear
concepts that lead to each other in a defining
circle & which you my friend can't refute on those
facts outlined. Darwinism fails to explain why
humans are social

Again, wrong. Darwinism does explain why humans are social. The earliest humans faced a lot of woes, from lack of food to exposure to predators and harsh weather conditions.
Humans who could come together and communicate had a better chance of chasing away predators, taking shifts to protect the group at night, forming tools etc and consequently, evolving faster. Natural selection is why we have evolved to be social creatures. Yet another fail for you.

Inteltower:
& big bang theory fails to
explain at the heart of their assumption why your
eyes are at the position they are & even why must
there be eyes, did the so called micro organism in
the great big bang had a meeting to discuss which
body parts to make & their positions , why the
complex yet simple inter dependent functioning of
the human parts.

Our bodily parts assemble the way they are because our DNA encodes for it. Did you ever take biology classes? If our DNA was changed at any point, our bodily formation would too. That's basic genetics. No intelligent design myth fits in there.

Inteltower:
First of look at yourself in the mirror, you have parts right?
in your "belief" it means the environment & human cells were blessed with intelligence to decide it needed an ear, tongue, brain, eye lashes etc even to be at the different places they are now. .

If you were god, you would make food and air pass through the same pipe? Do you know how many people have died because of this "intelligent design?" The human body has at least 10 design flaws. Pointed out by anatomists and surgeons. Your argument holds no water.

Inteltower:
ur problem isn't the belief... but your downright unwillingness to listen & be open minded.. ask me question & I will answer you.
stop being misguided by self conception but revelation

If anyone is intentionally being ignorant and unable to accept facts that have been proven because of what they read in a book written by cave men, it's you. Your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Inteltower:
Creationism answers the questions of design &
why man is social to me.. much closer than the
two which atheists subscribe too.
having explained the reason why a God exist by
these clear facts

1. Not all Atheists subscribe to the big bang theory. Some say "We don't know." Since actually no one can say for sure how the universe started. But we can extrapolate from available data and I can tell you without doubt that Creationists is for the mentally lazy.

Inteltower:
Now why the Christian God not Allah or Buddha
etc.
its because of three important things
1)Salvation from sin & death through Christ (here
Islam failed) it recognized our corrupted flaws &
unwanted behaviours that harms us & each other.
(read & learn more insight of that salvation plan)
2) the two commandments of love received from
Christ
3) the vital role of the Holy spirit in the world now
& personally.

Usual Religious jargon.

Inteltower:
I hope this helps...
I agree only a fool would say there is no God
but also a cursed man would know & see the truth
but doesn't want to believe out of enmity because
how God's will runs counter to theirs.
thanks

No, only fools believe in mythical stories that have zero proof and numerous plot holes. Religious retards will believe anything as long as it fits in to their fictional religious texts. While they will reject anything that attempts to expose it for the lie it is.

But one thing about science is, IT IS TRUE WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE IT.

Bacteriologist:
Christians are equally as oppressive as Islam. Especially when they're the majority, as is the case in the Southern part of Nigeria.

It might be a slightly better option to Islam. But both religions are actually two sides of the same coin and are for completely insane and ignorant people.

I, for one, look forward to the death of Abrahamic religions. And at the rate quality education spreads, it doesn't look too far in sight.

Al-khwarizmi,Jabbbir bin Hayyan, Al-haytam atee all religious scientist who contributed immensely to the world of science
Charles Darwin was also religious .
These men and more were people of Abraham faith and yet ,they laid the foundation for what your likes can now boast about thinking religion is now a problem.

When you reduce man to mere particles of atoms then and there he loses his essence.

After all, science don't tell us what is good, what is selfless and what is sympathetic; religion do and people like you with your upside down thinking can go and bang you head on the wall for all we care.

We don't need you to validate anything we do.

etcsines:
@titiloyeblog.com

Christians who are afraid to judge their false pastors have no right to judge Naira Marley - Daddy Freeze

Daddy Freeze has spoken about the controversy surrounding Naira Marley's detention in EFCC custody.

Sharing a very different perspective, Daddy Freeze says, 'Christians who are afraid to judge their false pastors have no right to judge Marley'.

He went on to say, 'God’s judgment will begin in his house. The ‘house’ of God (I say this metaphorically because God does not live in temples built by human hands Acts7:48, Acts 17:24), is in total disarray until we are ready to fix this, we remain hypocrites worse than the Pharisees'.

source: https://www.titiloyeblog.com/2019/05/christians-who-are-afraid-to-judge.html

How this guy manages to drag Christianity in every matter baffles me

belshazzar:
now now we've got ourselves here an idiot, haven't we? i saw your profile kid, you're disgusting....

Right back at you, Religious retard.

am4truth:
Jesus loves you, friend. Don't allow the devil- the deceiver to waste your life. Repent before it gets late. i have said worst than this concerning Christianity, but today, am for truth.

The same Jesus that came to set a father and his son against each other? That Jesus that died in the middle east so, I, an African can be saved? From what he will do to me if I don't accept him? Lmao

Inteltower:
I have observed your arguments so let's by logic
enlighten you on the Existence of God .am a grad
sociologist.
in studying man in the society... here are basic
facts
man is inherently social & subject to being social &
by social he relates with his fellow man,
environment & resources, & reasonably man can't
survive or progress long being anti social.
with what has been established above we can draw
to this conclusion where there is Social there is
dependency, where there is dependency there is
functionalism, where there is functionalism there is
order, where there is order there is a design.
this will lead us back to the concept "Social"
I have developed a sociological theorem called
"social orderism" in here it emphasizes that the
universe itself began from an existencial design
(contenders: Darwinism, Creationism, Big bang
theory).
the first & last fail to concur to the earlier linear
concepts that lead to each other in a defining
circle & which you my friend can't refute on those
facts outlined. Darwinism fails to explain why
humans are social & big bang theory fails to
explain at the heart of their assumption why your
eyes are at the position they are & even why must
there be eyes, did the so called micro organism in
the great big bang had a meeting to discuss which
body parts to make & their positions , why the
complex yet simple inter dependent functioning of
the human parts.

first of look at yourself in the mirror, you have parts right?
in your "belief" it means the environment & human cells were blessed with intelligence to decide it needed an ear, tongue, brain, eye lashes etc even to be at the different places they are now.
your problem isn't the belief... but your downright unwillingness to listen & be open minded.. ask me question & I will answer you.
stop being misguided by self conception but revelation


Creationism answers the questions of design &
why man is social to me.. much closer than the
two which atheists subscribe too.
having explained the reason why a God exist by
these clear facts
Now why the Christian God not Allah or Buddha
etc.
its because of three important things
1)Salvation from sin & death through Christ (here
Islam failed) it recognized our corrupted flaws &
unwanted behaviours that harms us & each other.
(read & learn more insight of that salvation plan)
2) the two commandments of love received from
Christ
3) the vital role of the Holy spirit in the world now
& personally.
I hope this helps...
I agree only a fool would say there is no God
but also a cursed man would know & see the truth
but doesn't want to believe out of enmity because
how God's will runs counter to theirs.
thanks

the Bible say in Genesis 1. in the beginning God created the heaven and earth . the atheist will want to re write it like this " in the beginning it JUST HAPPENED" Lolz delude atheists

PrinceCEE:
Lol...

You seem to channel the premises of your arguments on Christianity. Why not other religions?

I know, you'd say you've mentioned Islam, but, go back through your comments and see that you seem to be attacking Christianity.

Majority of Nigerians ignorantly leave the domain of discussion and prevaricate to another, it's not a must to comment on a thread, if you don't have any thing of relevance to contribute.

You have a strong argument, I'm nonreligious, I'm a deist, I was an atheist, not until I had quite a good number of reasons to be a deist. So I clearly understand your point, but I'd advise you to always know when to bring a discourse to the right place.

Nothing about this thread relates to existence.

Now to the topic, I once respected Freeze, but he's becoming more of a noise these days, probably to remain relevant. Where did he see Christians judge the guy? Or more to say, he seems to know the affiliated religions of all those that commented about the guy, both on twitter and other social networks?
Why'd he bring it up on Christians.

Some people are just slowpokes... That it makes me wonder if they ever uses their brain...!

I couldn't care less if you've once been a Buddhist or who you respect or you don't respect. Christianity is as bad as Islam. And like I said, both are tools of modern slavery.

Counter my premise with facts or forever remain silent.

Khaleell001:
Al-khwarizmi,Jabbbir bin Hayyan, Al-haytam atee all religious scientist who contributed immensely to the world of science
Charles Darwin was also religious .
These men and more were people of Abraham faith and yet ,they laid the foundation for what your likes can now boast about thinking religion is now a problem.

When you reduce man to mere particles of atoms then and there he loses his essence.

After all, science don't tell us what is good, what is selfless and what is sympathetic; religion do and people like you with your upside down thinking can go and bang you head on the wall for all we care.

We don't need you to validate anything we do.

I don't banter with irredemably stupid bigots brainwashed by mythical tales.

hopexter:
Oga stop talking as if you were born today. He gets criticism wherever his name is mentioned since his arrest. Stop being one of those who hates the truth.

He's been criticized,

True,

But why single out Christians for being critical..

Why not just Nigerians?

He's being hypocritical..

Roman 6:23
For the wages of sin is death ; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


I hope you understand.
Goodnight

Bacteriologist:
The same Jesus that came to set a father and his son against each other? That Jesus that died in the middle east so, I, an African can be saved? From what he will do to me if I don't accept him? Lmao

donbenie:
He's been criticized,

True,

But why single out Christians for being critical..

Why not just Nigerians?

He's being hypocritical..

Cos Naira Marley is a Muslim and biblically, it's wrong for a Christian to criticise or judge someone outside your religion that was what Dr freeze was trying say.

eelbay:
Roman 6:23
For the wages of sin is death ; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


I hope you understand.
Goodnight

Using Bible verses to justify the authenticity of the Bible? Lmao can't say I'm surprised. How else would a dogmatised religionist explain a book written by drunk misogynistic men?

hopexter:
Cos Naira Marley is a Muslim and biblically, it's wrong for a Christian to criticise or judge someone outside your religion that was what Dr freeze was trying say.

Well,

We live in a secular society and I doubt being a Christian or Muslim comes into the discourse..

Everything should not be placed under the Prism of religion..

Should we first check the religion of a suspect before expressing an opinion?

For something that clearly has nothing to do with religion?

This "leaking mouth" just had to talk right? Always trying to be up in every ones' business. Pu**y!

Inteltower:
I have observed your arguments so let's by logic
enlighten you on the Existence of God .am a grad
sociologist.
in studying man in the society... here are basic
facts
man is inherently social & subject to being social &
by social he relates with his fellow man,
environment & resources, & reasonably man can't
survive or progress long being anti social.
with what has been established above we can draw
to this conclusion where there is Social there is
dependency, where there is dependency there is
functionalism, where there is functionalism there is
order, where there is order there is a design.
this will lead us back to the concept "Social"
I have developed a sociological theorem called
"social orderism" in here it emphasizes that the
universe itself began from an existencial design
(contenders: Darwinism, Creationism, Big bang
theory).
the first & last fail to concur to the earlier linear
concepts that lead to each other in a defining
circle & which you my friend can't refute on those
facts outlined. Darwinism fails to explain why
humans are social & big bang theory fails to
explain at the heart of their assumption why your
eyes are at the position they are & even why must
there be eyes, did the so called micro organism in
the great big bang had a meeting to discuss which
body parts to make & their positions , why the
complex yet simple inter dependent functioning of
the human parts.

first of look at yourself in the mirror, you have parts right?
in your "belief" it means the environment & human cells were blessed with intelligence to decide it needed an ear, tongue, brain, eye lashes etc even to be at the different places they are now.
your problem isn't the belief... but your downright unwillingness to listen & be open minded.. ask me question & I will answer you.
stop being misguided by self conception but revelation


Creationism answers the questions of design &
why man is social to me.. much closer than the
two which atheists subscribe too.
having explained the reason why a God exist by
these clear facts
Now why the Christian God not Allah or Buddha
etc.
its because of three important things
1)Salvation from sin & death through Christ (here
Islam failed) it recognized our corrupted flaws &
unwanted behaviours that harms us & each other.
(read & learn more insight of that salvation plan)
2) the two commandments of love received from
Christ
3) the vital role of the Holy spirit in the world now
& personally.
I hope this helps...
I agree only a fool would say there is no God
but also a cursed man would know & see the truth
but doesn't want to believe out of enmity because
how God's will runs counter to theirs.
thanks

A graduate of Sociology wrote this? First is that, your write-up is badly structured. Second, you ended up refuting established theories and providing an alternative that confusely satisfies only your ignorance and the tenacity to hold on to such falsehood. Did I hear you say that your theory of creation explains human being as social animal better? Read the whole of Genesis 4, and observe how disjointed, invalid and unsound the reasoning is. I had to reply you because you claimed you were a graduate. A sociologist for that matter.

Bacteriologist:
The same Jesus that came to set a father and his son against each other? That Jesus that died in the middle east so, I, an African can be saved? From what he will do to me if I don't accept him? Lmao

You missed it, friend. it is the love of God that would make a father and his son go against each other. You have to make a choice to obey God or your earthly father. The scripture needs to be fulfilled regarding concerning his life. Friend, I repeat I have said worst things concerning Christianity, but today I know better. Pray sincerely from your heart that Christ Jesus should reveal himself to you. I love you, but Christ loves you more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVIrSlxXx7Y

Bacteriologist:
Christians are equally as oppressive as Islam. Especially when they're the majority, as is the case in the Southern part of Nigeria.

It might be a slightly better option to Islam. But both religions are actually two sides of the same coin and are for completely insane and ignorant people.

I, for one, look forward to the death of Abrahamic religions. And at the rate quality education spreads, it doesn't look too far in sight.

And what has Adam and Eve plus the three sons they had got to do with this?

Huncle Daddy Freeze before you tell us anything.....
Go and reply your letter. Thank You

Bacteriologist:
How did humanity begin? That's easy; As a result of LONG years of continuous adaptation and evolution. This is a proven fact. Unlike your creationist bullshït.

And no. Your ability to grasp this simple concept is not a valid argument against it.

Mr. Sane so u believed big bang also??.......eya......u think say na only u don read book.

Bacteriologist:
Every Tom, Dïčk and Harry knows that fundamental Christians represented by a large majority of the Nigerian population are SHAMELESS HYPOCRITES.


They would all come for Naira Marley while they fear to castigate bigger scam artists in their pastors who milk them of the little they have.

Religion has been rejected in the progressive world and it is coming to Africa to settle and gain ground. It's up to me and you to resist this madness that is peculiar to Religion and it's followers.

why y'all are trying to shove this ' no religion ' thing down our throats beats me, really! can u not be on your zone and let us the foolish sheeps to bask in our foolishness and be on our own nevertheless the bible warned us ages ago so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised

Bacteriologist:
I couldn't care less if you've once been a Buddhist or who you respect or you don't respect. Christianity is as bad as Islam. And like I said, both are tools of modern slavery.

Counter my premise with facts or forever remain silent.

you just looking for a fight

Bacteriologist:
I couldn't care less if you've once been a Buddhist or who you respect or you don't respect. Christianity is as bad as Islam. And like I said, both are tools of modern slavery.

Counter my premise with facts or forever remain silent.

Certainly, I can't engage you in an argument because you reek of dyslexia.

I wasn't against your beliefs nor your war against religion, I was just pointing you to the point that you brought a topic totally unrelated to the thread here. Is it too much to understand ?

Maybe, I should say, boy, use your brain next time you wander into a thread.

Bacteriologist:
I don't banter with irredemably stupid bigots brainwashed by mythical tales.

don't dress scantily: carefully avoids and minimize obscene behaviour like sexual harassment and rape. we could use more of that in this world. don't drink achohol (not too much of it anyway is what religious books say):actually curtails violence and abuse in so many homes and societies. we definitely need more of that... don't abort the baby stay @ home:abortion is the taking away of the life of a potential human being with potentials yet unknown. that's actually murder of person and resource (we want none of that)and if actually women can actually balance their lives (career women or otherwise) and that of their marriage/family, we would see a drastic reduction of divorces and separation . our grandmas actually stayed at home and we barely saw marriages that lasted 6 months .nobody. wants a broken home especially not the kids we are trying to bring into this world
finally don't dance don't laugh:there is no church in this world (don't know 2% bout Muslims and mosque) where you go and would not see one of those or both or more at the same time, no church anywhere! even my bible encourages us to make merry for our God is a God of Happiness (the biblical David danced till he was almost naked) you kid now but you'll understand when you get older.. alright?

LiveByNight:
This is a clear case of.corrupt.politcians vs the youth

The politicians and government are stealing and don't want to your to steal.too.. when the youth steal.the politicians use the price and efcc to intimidate the youth why?

I don't.supoort fraud but the efcc should start with the government!!

you dey talk trash

did this thieving politicians publicly declare their support for what they do.


naira Marley is a rascoon

alBHAGDADI:
When we call Daddy Freeze an Antichrist, his dumb followers cry foul without knowing nor seeing his errors which aren't errors but deceit.

Here, he's saying Christians don't have the right to judge Naira Marley because some pastors according to him have faults too. He's basically saying wr shouldn't exercise our God given rights as sons of God, which is to judge. Can you see how Antichrist he is.

He quoted a scripture without understanding it. The worst part is that he quoted from the NLT version which is Satan's own Bible. Read thread below to know more.

https://www.nairaland.com/4957299/bible-sword-butter-knife-why

Now, we as Christians have the right to not only judge those in church but those outside. We are to judge ALL THINGS and no man can judge us.

1 Corinthians 2:15-16 (KJV)
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things , yet he himself is judged of no man.

The Bible says we Christians are going to be the ones to judge angels, how much more things like Naira Marley's issue.

1 Corinthians 6:3 (KJV)
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Jesus Christ himself said we can judge but not hypocritical judgement. We can't judge if the pastor of our church is a Yahoo boy who duped foreigners on the internet. Some for might think pastors collecting tithe are Yahoo boys. No, they are not because God commanded it. But there are so e false prophets with fake churches doing that. But a real man of God is ordained to collect tithe for the ministry. If you believe Freeze who got his doctrine on judgement wrong, what makes you think he's right on tithing that Jesus himself endorsed as seen in Mathew 23:23?

Keep following Freeze until you end in hell where he belongs.

Keep following your yahoo pastor until you end up in hell.

You think your vote counts?












Your are pessimistic. May be not all but most votes count . As for the followers,they are nothing but pure sycophants.