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15ssDRIVE:
With all due respect. That’s my opinion ..... you can say yours without any odd words.


One day I pray love will win rather than hatred.


If I am a definition of Mumu,then half of the world are happily mumu like me.

Happy Monday my people ....

ChieduJoshua081:
I appologise man

GrowYourSales:
The competition has started

How many apostles in Bible collected money from the church? None

How many them were rich? None

And you call what we have pastors?

gistsky:
The wicked/enemies are always too weak to be calmed at the prosperity of the righteous.
God be praised for this good news!
The Antichrist/antichristians can go and die!

drakeli:
Do you even read your Bible at all when Peter asked all the church to sell everything they had and bring the money 100% to church?

ChieduJoshua081:
Mumu. It is a gift. Olodo.

ChieduJoshua081:
Come closer. Lean forward.

Proverbs 10:22
It is the blessing of the LORD that makes rich, And He adds no sorrow to it (Rich)

2 Corinthians 8:9
For you are recognizing [more clearly] the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. His astonishing kindness, His generosity, His gracious favor, that though He was rich yet for your sake He became poor, so that by His poverty you might become rich. (Jesus was rich)



This is for you.
James 4:2
You do not have because you do not ask it of God.


Mark 10:29
29 Jesus said, “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, there is no one who has given up a house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel’s sake, 30 who will not receive a hundred times as much now in the present age—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms—along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life.
Note: in this present age.


Proverbs 3:9-10
Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the first fruits of all your crops (income);
Then your barns will be abundantly filled and your vats will overflow with new wine.
(Wealth)


Proverbs 10:22
The blessing of the Lord makes rich, and he adds no sorrow with it. (Rich)

God wants every of his servant to be rich because God himself is a rich God. my God is not poor. How can I be serving God and am poor? Not possible. You can keep spoiling in ur poverty and continue arguing.

God bless Papa. More grace sir.

GrowYourSales:
God does not promise riches to his servants.

On the contrary he provides good things for both the good and the bad.


Matt 5:45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.


Rather, he only promises to give them their daily bread. He even asked to pray for that (and not riches) in his model prayer Matt 6:9.


He even warned against riches. And said if a rich man can enter into the eye of a niddle (do you know what a niddle?) then that how easy it'll be for him to enter the kingdom of God.

The Christian life is a life of faith. Faith that what we do is right and pleasing to God whether things are going well or not cos the reward for his faith is eternal life.

His faithful servants in the past served God in favourable and unfavorable times. They were friends of God in good and in the bad times. Not in the hope for material gain from God (that's not friendship but selfishness) Not for when life was rosy or the hope of it. That's the true Christianity.

drakeli:
Do you even read your Bible at all when Peter asked all the church to sell everything they had and bring the money 100% to church?

DeSepiero:
Perhaps the greatest fraud is the selling of an invisible product for 10% of buyers' income without paying tax.

GrowYourSales:
Don't you get it.


All the riches here are not material riches.


Even if they include material riches, they were not riches for our present age. Just as you can see clearly bolded in Mark 10:29. It was for the future when Christians would attain eternal life.

This is further explained here...

Prov 10:22 says he makes us rich.

What kind of rich was referring to? The entire book of proverbs emphasize what kind of riches God is referring to or encourages anywhere in the bible such as we read in Prov 16:16


Proverbs 16:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!

What wisdom? Spiritual wisdom.

Phil 1:10 so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ What could more of importance in our spiritual life? Material riches or spiritual riches?

Prov 10:22...you quoted says he adds no pains with it.

If reference was being made to material riches why did he warn:


Matthew 6:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal


1 Timothy 6:17-18 New International Version (NIV)

17 Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. 18 Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share


Proverbs 23:4-5 New International Version (NIV)

Saying 8

4 Do not wear yourself out to get rich;
do not trust your own cleverness.
5 Cast but a glance at riches, and they are gone,
for they will surely sprout wings
and fly off to the sky like an eagle.

ChieduJoshua081:
Good luck to your serving God in Poverty. You will just cheat ur self. And who even knows if you will even make that paradise seff. Be there suffering urself. Rubish. mtcheewwww

GrowYourSales:
The competition has started

How many apostles in Bible collected money from the church? None

How many them were rich? None

And you call what we have pastors?

Blitz888:
Study your bible again.... Philipians 4 may be a great place to start.

hungryboy:
The more the masses become poorer, the more our Pastors and Politicians become richer.

emeijeh:
Papa is going places.... He gas gone global.
God be praised

Blitz888:
Study your bible again.... Philipians 4 may be a great place to start.

donbachi:
More grace

GrowYourSales:
Don't claim busy, you don't have any Bible knowledge.

See someone accusing someone of taking one part and leaving the other part.


I knew you'd pick that argument. Thank God you did..atleast you're smart and want to learn.

The Macedonian brothers supplied his need. Was he not part of the church? Couldn't he be provided for as one who was in need? Just as would be done for the any other member of the church?


You read that 1Cor 8 well. Who was the contribution made for? It was for the needy. It wasn't for him. That verse emphasis that proper arrangements where made in the church to ensure that the money that was contributed by the church wasn't used for another purpose than helping the needy at the time.


Or you think the apostles couldn't be rich with the money of the church? What gift of the spirit does the acclaimed pastor's have today that can be equalled to what the apostles had?

Understand the point: there was no time that God used the money contributed by his servants to enrich any of his prophets or priest. He cannot even think it.

You cannot be serving two gods: God and Mammon. A devoted pastor who has to change people's life cannot merge the two. They're a distraction. 1Tim 6:9

Apostle Paul was born into a royal family and was educated in the best university of his time but what did he do? He left all those things for the same of preaching the good news.

In fact he compared all of that to garbage.


Philippians 3:7-8 New International Version (NIV)

7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ


Jesus did the same. All the apostles did the same.

Jesus even said

Mark 8:34 New International Version (NIV)

34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.


Take up their what? Their cross. The Christian life is a cross to bear.

ALLNIGERIANSMAD:
how is this man carrying cocaine suceessfully

DeSepiero:
Perhaps the greatest fraud is the selling of an invisible product for 10% of buyers' income without paying tax.

Biglittlelois:
Pastors I will always respect are Kumuiyi and Olukoya cos they are not materialistic, God bless and keep them.