But please my people, enough of this dick measuring contest. Let us focus on lifting alaigbo up and not focus on putting the Yoruba down. Let us do our thing quietly while they do theirs. The sky is enough for us all to fly. The way we have been going on and on about Yoruba superiority abi na inferiority is too much. Let's focus on what makes us great and how we can work on that.

investnow2013:


Governor Willie Obiano attended the official opening ceremony of Dreams Restuarant and Bar located along Club Road, Awka.

The Think Home Philosophy (Aku lue uno) of Anambra State launched in 2014 by Gov Willie Obiano has continued to record successes.

Dreams Restuarant Ltd is owned by Hon. Chriscato Emeke (Former House of Representatives Member for Anambra East/West) and has branches in Abuja, Onitsha, Aguleri and now Awka.

Hon. Emeke appreciated the governor's efforts in providing security in the state which has ensured returns on investment.

Chief Obiano aplauded him and others who heeded his call and invested in the state.

Other dignitaries who were present at the event included; Prof. Solo Chukwulobelu (SSG), Chief Primus Odili (Chief of Staff to the Gov. Willie Obiano), HRM, Igwe Chukwuemeka Eri (Akajiovo Igbo and Igwe Enugwu Aguleri), Hon. Uchenna Okafor Wiper (Commissioner for Transport), Dr. Christian Madubuko (Commissioner for Commerce), Hon. Uche Okafor (House of Assembly member, Ayamelum State Constituency), Hon. Obinna Emenaka (House of Assembly member, Anambra East State Constituency) amongst others.

Obika Chidiebele Cy
Awka.

Lol. I was just here yesterday to buy sharwarma. Willie has really reduced the bar of governance if really he attended the opening ceremony of a restaurant such as this.

nwabobo:


Lol. I was just here yesterday to buy sharwarma. Willie has really reduced the bar of governance if really he attended the opening ceremony of a restaurant such as this.

Obiano has nothing more to offer ndi anambra except that. Expect the worse from willie because very soon he will be commissioning ware houses, toilets, swimming pool and tag it akulueuno initiative.

investnow2013:


Governor Willie Obiano attended the official opening ceremony of Dreams Restuarant and Bar located along Club Road, Awka.

The Think Home Philosophy (Aku lue uno) of Anambra State launched in 2014 by Gov Willie Obiano has continued to record successes.

Dreams Restuarant Ltd is owned by Hon. Chriscato Emeke (Former House of Representatives Member for Anambra East/West) and has branches in Abuja, Onitsha, Aguleri and now Awka.

Hon. Emeke appreciated the governor's efforts in providing security in the state which has ensured returns on investment.

Chief Obiano aplauded him and others who heeded his call and invested in the state.

Other dignitaries who were present at the event included; Prof. Solo Chukwulobelu (SSG), Chief Primus Odili (Chief of Staff to the Gov. Willie Obiano), HRM, Igwe Chukwuemeka Eri (Akajiovo Igbo and Igwe Enugwu Aguleri), Hon. Uchenna Okafor Wiper (Commissioner for Transport), Dr. Christian Madubuko (Commissioner for Commerce), Hon. Uche Okafor (House of Assembly member, Ayamelum State Constituency), Hon. Obinna Emenaka (House of Assembly member, Anambra East State Constituency) amongst others.

Obika Chidiebele Cy
Awka.

Anambra is in the wrong hands. I pray we don't repeat this mistake in 2021.

Correct statement

Unbiased1:
Igboland is not actually barren like that guy has being saying. Ebonyi state has as much Limestone as neighboring Cross river, the state is also endowed with Zinc and Lead ores. Ibeto once used to mine Lead ores in Ebonyi to produce his car batteries. The crude oil reserves in Anambra, IMO and Abia are enough to provide for our fuel needs. It is not compulsory we export our natural resources, we can process them to take care of ourselves. We have large gas reserves in IMO and Anambra which can be processed to meet our cooking gas needs, produce synthetic oil for the automobile industry, methanol for the chemical industry and a whole lot of other things including powering thermal power plants. We have enough land to meet up with the agricultural needs of over 5 staple foods we consume. We have Palm oil which can also be used to produce palm olein ( which we wrongly call groundnut oil because it is not red like normal unprocessed palm oil lol ), we have yam and cassava and can meet up with our rice, tomato and maize demands if we are serious.
The major reason why we shouldn't attempt to leave or break out of Nigeria now is because, we lack the most important things that can make Biafra survive even up to a year. Before we intensify our quest to disintegrate, we need to have our own source of electricity, telecommunication/internet, fuel supply, food, at least 1 international airport and a working seaport and shipping line. We currently receive electricity from Niger state and Afam power plant in Akwa ibom, we get access to telecommunication from companies based in Lagos, we get food from the north and we buy refined petroleum products from NNPC. The Nigerian government will cut supply of these things to us as the first step in punishing us if we misbehave too much. Imagine the first 2 months of Biafra without electric, fuel, internet, food etc. We need wealthy sons and daughters of Igboland to invest in those sectors I mentioned above. We already have 2 international airports even though its only one that is working, we can simply take control of the Onitsha river port if we break out but the issue there is which airline or shipping line we come to the east? Air peace may save us much stress with air travel but what of the shipping lines for import? Those foreign shipping companies cannot be relied upon. I also mentioned food. How can we separate when we don't have a final solution to rice, tomato, sugar and salt? Thank God we are currently trying in Yam and oil production. These issues should be at the front burner and not the issue of whether Yoruba are productive or not. Even if our IGR is 2 million naira per year, once we have the things I mentioned above, the negative effects of the disintegration of Nigeria will be less on people.

For the guy claiming that Igbo land is barren, let me clear that if there is a mass exodus of Igbo out various parts of Nigeria, it will spell doom for the progress of Lagos, Abuja and the entire country at large including Igbo land. Most of the companies in Lagos and Ogun are foreign companies and will hesitate to shutdown operations in any part of the country if things go wrong. Take what happened to P&G company as an example. When the country became unfavorable to them, they shut down most of their plants in Ibadan and Ogun including their newly completed 300 million dollar plant. Only the plant that produces pampams diaper is currently functioning at full capacity. If you have ever been in Lagos during December period, you will know how largely empty Lagos becomes. Most markets remain shut and business activities drop. If Lagos remains that way for at least 6 months, the foreign companies will begin to lose revenue. The target of most of these companies is Lagos and by the time there is a mass exodus out of Lagos, the companies may start looking for alternatives. Unilever once realised a manual or book of some sort containing a list of their distributors, management etc. That was when I discovered that the Obi of Onitsha was the Chairman of the non executive board of directors and after Lagos, Anambra, Abia and the east in general produced most of their distributors. Even the distributors from Lagos were mainly Igbo owned marketing companies. Imagine Unilever losing all its Igbo distributors, what do you think the company will do? Remain in Ogun state and suffer the loss like that? When the Arewa youths ordered Igbo out of their land, why were some northern leaders condemning the statement in its entirety? The governors of Kano, Kaduna and Plateau were are the fore front of making sure the Igbo never left the north. Same with the Sultan of Sokoto and Emir of Katsina, you can Google search their comments/statements to confirm.
The only form of restructuring that will benefit Igbo land is that of full autonomy, if Nigeria can't be restructured that way, let the country break up. We can't continue to be in a country that does everything possible to make sure a particular region does not progress due to hatred. As for our sons and daughters who are still investing heavily outside Igbo land, I don't blame them because, the country has made the east one of the least attractive places to invest in Nigeria. Our governors now have to visit companies, discuss and discuss just to attract barely 2 foreign companies in a whole year. The bitter truth is that as long as Igbo land remains part of Nigeria, it always be over shadowed by the west and will never achieve it's full potential.

Unbiased1:
Igboland is not actually barren like that guy has being saying. Ebonyi state has as much Limestone as neighboring Cross river, the state is also endowed with Zinc and Lead ores. Ibeto once used to mine Lead ores in Ebonyi to produce his car batteries. The crude oil reserves in Anambra, IMO and Abia are enough to provide for our fuel needs. It is not compulsory we export our natural resources, we can process them to take care of ourselves. We have large gas reserves in IMO and Anambra which can be processed to meet our cooking gas needs, produce synthetic oil for the automobile industry, methanol for the chemical industry and a whole lot of other things including powering thermal power plants. We have enough land to meet up with the agricultural needs of over 5 staple foods we consume. We have Palm oil which can also be used to produce palm olein ( which we wrongly call groundnut oil because it is not red like normal unprocessed palm oil lol ), we have yam and cassava and can meet up with our rice, tomato and maize demands if we are serious.
The major reason why we shouldn't attempt to leave or break out of Nigeria now is because, we lack the most important things that can make Biafra survive even up to a year. Before we intensify our quest to disintegrate, we need to have our own source of electricity, telecommunication/internet, fuel supply, food, at least 1 international airport and a working seaport and shipping line. We currently receive electricity from Niger state and Afam power plant in Akwa ibom, we get access to telecommunication from companies based in Lagos, we get food from the north and we buy refined petroleum products from NNPC. The Nigerian government will cut supply of these things to us as the first step in punishing us if we misbehave too much. Imagine the first 2 months of Biafra without electric, fuel, internet, food etc. We need wealthy sons and daughters of Igboland to invest in those sectors I mentioned above. We already have 2 international airports even though its only one that is working, we can simply take control of the Onitsha river port if we break out but the issue there is which airline or shipping line we come to the east? Air peace may save us much stress with air travel but what of the shipping lines for import? Those foreign shipping companies cannot be relied upon. I also mentioned food. How can we separate when we don't have a final solution to rice, tomato, sugar and salt? Thank God we are currently trying in Yam and oil production. These issues should be at the front burner and not the issue of whether Yoruba are productive or not. Even if our IGR is 2 million naira per year, once we have the things I mentioned above, the negative effects of the disintegration of Nigeria will be less on people.

For the guy claiming that Igbo land is barren, let me clear that if there is a mass exodus of Igbo out various parts of Nigeria, it will spell doom for the progress of Lagos, Abuja and the entire country at large including Igbo land. Most of the companies in Lagos and Ogun are foreign companies and will hesitate to shutdown operations in any part of the country if things go wrong. Take what happened to P&G company as an example. When the country became unfavorable to them, they shut down most of their plants in Ibadan and Ogun including their newly completed 300 million dollar plant. Only the plant that produces pampams diaper is currently functioning at full capacity. If you have ever been in Lagos during December period, you will know how largely empty Lagos becomes. Most markets remain shut and business activities drop. If Lagos remains that way for at least 6 months, the foreign companies will begin to lose revenue. The target of most of these companies is Lagos and by the time there is a mass exodus out of Lagos, the companies may start looking for alternatives. Unilever once realised a manual or book of some sort containing a list of their distributors, management etc. That was when I discovered that the Obi of Onitsha was the Chairman of the non executive board of directors and after Lagos, Anambra, Abia and the east in general produced most of their distributors. Even the distributors from Lagos were mainly Igbo owned marketing companies. Imagine Unilever losing all its Igbo distributors, what do you think the company will do? Remain in Ogun state and suffer the loss like that? When the Arewa youths ordered Igbo out of their land, why were some northern leaders condemning the statement in its entirety? The governors of Kano, Kaduna and Plateau were are the fore front of making sure the Igbo never left the north. Same with the Sultan of Sokoto and Emir of Katsina, you can Google search their comments/statements to confirm.
The only form of restructuring that will benefit Igbo land is that of full autonomy, if Nigeria can't be restructured that way, let the country break up. We can't continue to be in a country that does everything possible to make sure a particular region does not progress due to hatred. As for our sons and daughters who are still investing heavily outside Igbo land, I don't blame them because, the country has made the east one of the least attractive places to invest in Nigeria. Our governors now have to visit companies, discuss and discuss just to attract barely 2 foreign companies in a whole year. The bitter truth is that as long as Igbo land remains part of Nigeria, it always be over shadowed by the west and will never achieve it's full potential.

Afam power plant is in Oyigbo Rivers state, an Ndoki Igbo speaking part of old Imo state that was carved into Rivers state by the FG post civil war. Ndoki people are majorly found in Ukwa East LGA of Abia state. Their traditional headquarters is in Azumini Abia state.

Obi1kenobi:


The choice or decision will not be up to the Niger Delta. The problem will assume the dimension of an existential crisis for the North. The core North of Nigeria is already as impoverished as Somalia or South Sudan as it is now. Without Niger Delta oyel, they would basically be a walking corpse. They would go to war before allowing the Niger Delta leave with their oyel. The war would be undesirable (as war always is) but they would have no choice than to fight for their survival - and Niger Delta oyel is their means of survival. The fatal mistake was made when Ironsi's dumb ass deconstructed a working system of governance to institute a unitary system of government which has made other regions addicted to Niger Delta oyel: an addiction that will only fade when the Niger Delta oyel expires (which it will in a few decades time). The worst the Niger Delta can do if denied their independence will be to start blowing up pipelines (which will affect their own economy too). They will never be willing to actually go to war with the North.

This is why Biafra is a pipe dream. As I've pointed out severally, the North know that secession of the SE will precipitate similar agitations from the SS that holds the means of their survival (and Northerners often conflate the SE and SS together as an entity). They will never allow any "Biafra" to materialize until the last drop of oyel has been squeezed from the Niger Delta.

You always talk as if you can predict the future absolutely.

meccuno:
this obi1kenobi guy. are you sure your are really igbo? too negative.

Definitely not Igbo.

Omnibus:
Definitely not Igbo.

I am just shocked. .in as much as I will not defend Igbos when they are wrong,I will definitely not sit and watch my tribe being humiliated. And these dude you use the anonymous nature of this site to make Igbo people look bad baffles me. They never contribute positively they never speak up when it is necessary but they all come out from.their rat infested holes to start forming politically correct
. Mad people

pazienza:


Afam power plant is in Oyigbo Rivers state, an Ndoki Igbo speaking part of old Imo state that was carved into Rivers state by the FG post civil war. Ndoki people are majorly found in Ukwa East LGA of Abia state. Their traditional headquarters is in Azumini Abia state.

As long as Afam power plant is not in the east, we still have a problem. I don't consider resources in the SS as Igbo resources even if they are located on lands owned by supposed SS Igbo at least not Rivers state. I fear the so-called Igbo people in Rivers because, those guys can shock the east at anytime time. We need functioning power plants and at least 1 modular refinery in the east. Century power is about to save us in power generation while Orient has failed to boost production to 10,000 barrels per day.

Omnibus:
Definitely not Igbo.

He is Igbo o.

I know the sister on facebook.
The Sister is a Lioness on facebook. Very actively pro Igbo and pro Biafra. A strong Ipob supporter.

It's shocking that she has a brother like him.

Unbiased1:


As long as Afam power plant is not in the east, we still have a problem. I don't consider resources in the SS as Igbo resources even if they are located on lands owned by supposed SS Igbo at least not Rivers state. I fear the so-called Igbo people in Rivers because, those guys can shock the east at anytime time. We need functioning power plants and at least 1 modular refinery in the east. Century power is about to save us in power generation while Orient has failed to boost production to 10,000 barrels per day.

It's true. The Igbos in Rivers can be unreliable, you never know where you are with them.
Ndoki is currently angling to join Ijaw National Council. That's how capricious they are. So I'm with you on acting like we just have only SE, while we take anything that comes us from SS as a bonus.

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi

This is not true. The Lagos colony was struggling prior to 1906, and wasn't so productive, which was why the British under Sir Walter Egerton decided to almagamate it with the greater productive Southern Nigeria (SE and SE) in 1906.
People talk alot about 1914 almagamation and why the North had to be merged with Southern Nigeria in 1914, but nobody talks about how barely productive Lagos colony was merged with Southern Nigeria in 1906,with the capital city of Southern Nigeria moved from Calabar to Lagos, and all the resources of Southern Nigeria, channeled towards Lagos development by the British.
Without this,Lagos was no different from other British coastal cities in Africa Like Abidjan, Lome, Monrovia, Conakry, etc.
What set Lagos on its current path was it's attachment to Southern Nigeria and was subsequently consolidated by being made the only gateway to African most populous country. Decouple Nigeria and Lagos cannot even compete with Porto novo who are already out punching it in marital business. Lagos enjoys the monopoly of Nigeria market, which it would'nt have post Nigeria.
For more on these, read this topic :https://www.nairaland.com/1019602/dont-blame-1914-amalgamation-rather

All Lagos has today is as a result of Nigerian unity.

You talk about Abuja,but she has only been Nigerian capital for just 28years,and is already looking more beautiful than Lagos, despite having to share the attention with Lagos and lacking sea port monopoly.
In contrast, Lagos had benefited from Southern Nigeria from 1906-date, and as Nigeria capital for 105 years received undivided attention and development using collective Nigerian resources mainly from original Southern Nigeria,, firstly by the British and now by the FG. 105yrs of undivided attention! Look at Abuja with just 28yrs of shared attention, a barren empty piece of bush today in 1980s, looking more beautiful than traditional cities like Ph, Enugu, Ibadan,
Kano, Kaduna, Calabar, etc . Imagine what it could look like in 2096( that's 105years of being capital city) , if Nigeria continue existing. Let that sink in!

The emboldened is revisionist history. The British formed the Southern Protectorate that merged the Lagos Colony, the Royal Niger Company (which included dominion of the SW and the hinterlands of the Eastern region by a mercantile company that later sold its rights to the British government) and Niger Coast Protectorate to consolidate all their Southern operations. It was the North that was amalgamated with the Southern Protectorate to subsidize the far less productive North, but the consolidation of colonialist operations in the South to form the Southern Protectorate had nothing to do with the East subsidizing the West. That's just false.

We're arguing in circles here about Lagos. I haven't disputed the disproportionate Federal spending on Lagos, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up. I pointed out simply that:
1) Great outlay has been made on the infrastructure of Lagos by the colonialists and the FG for the close to 8 decades it spent as Nigeria's seat of power.
2) Part of the reason for (1) above is the strategic location of Lagos that made it especially suited to be Nigeria's economic hub.
The bottomline being that Lagos has a massive infrastructural head-start over any other Nigerian city. The evolution I see coming in Lagos in the future will be gentrification: where in such a small, but highly populated city with a very competitive property market, high net-worth individuals will increasingly drive out low-income/poor people, leading to further wealth concentration in the state. This is one of the reasons residents and industries are being driven to neighboring Ogun state. I will agree to disagree, but all the theorizing about the collapse of Lagos is a fantasy. Go to Festac or Ajah or Surulere or wherever and go and tell the Igbo people there to abandon the fruit of their life labour and see what they'll tell you.

Funny enough, I believe depopulating Lagos - which is seeing its infrastructure overwhelmed by a population that it's struggling to cope with - will actually help the state. Tankers and trailers parked all over the state alone have made many areas in Lagos no-go zones where people can hardly go in or out, and road networks are overwhelmed and the state loses massive money from the gridlocks.

We are rich in natural gas. And enough crude oil to meet our domestic needs. Exploration in SE hasn't been intensive as well. I'm sure we could find more with better exploration funding.
https://www.nairaland.com/826279/imo-over-7.8-trillion-scf
Anambra still has substantial natural gas reserve.

Ondo oil wells were mostly ripped off Delta state by OBJ, while SE oil producing lands were strategically removed and added to Rivers state by dubious boundary adjustment program in immediate post civil war era. I have no doubt that a future Niger delta autonomous region would challenge most of Ondo current crude oil control areas.

Furthermore. Coming from Nigeria, the country with highest poverty rate in Africa, you have not earned the right to slate Rwanda that is doing relatively better. With also Better future forecast.
We have highly skilled artizans in our twin cities of Aba and Onitsha. A Biafran government financed natural gas pipe line and electricity to feed those small scale industries there, and we could have an industrial revolution. SE currently receive the least power supply in the country and pay more than most regions for power.

Our land is very much fertile. I don't know where you got the barren thoughts from. Northern Anambra, entire Ebonyi and Southern Imo and Abia are very rich/fertile and sparsely populated areas. Agricultural output in modern world depends on value of human resources and not on land mass. This is why Netherlands,Israel and other smaller nations are agriculturally more productive than Nigeria.

Ndiigbo who grew in Igboland will not exchange our beautiful rain forrest with lush green trees and shrubs for anything in the world. Only people brought up outside Igboland utter such talk.


Well, Igbo natural human resources shine brighter than all, considering we suffered a civil war set back but are current on Par with any other Nigerian group, if not better. Yorubas inherited the Nigerian private sector after the well marshalled Heist of indigenization policy. Wealth is generational, the children of these Yoruba aristocrats who took those companies are currently the ones still controlling many of them today, which gives the false impression of Yoruba on the whole doing well. Read this:https://www.nairaland.com/2516282/before-forget
In contrast, the Igbo wealth is fluid and not crystallized in the hands of aristocrats.

A lot of posters here are having problems with the concept of "relative" statements. The context of everything I've been saying is that the SE region is the least naturally endowed of Nigeria's 6 geopolitical zones - not that the SE is endowed with nothing. I haven't said Anambra or Imo or wherever have no oil reserves or that Ebonyi don't have limestone etc. I've simply said they are less endowed than other regions. I think many of you need to pick up a map and stare at the SE on it: looking at its size, or looking at its location relative to other zones etc. That is the most disadvantageously positioned zone in the country. Easily. I don't know why we're arguing something that self-evident. It should be the easiest thing to concede cos our disadvantageous geography is hardly our fault. Like I said earlier, there are states that I'd swap the whole SE land for: like Benue with its massive arable land. Or Kogi with its waters, and massive arable land, and massive mineral deposits, . Or Taraba and its massive arable land, and the lovely Mambilla plateau and its waters. Or Cross River with all its arable land, and landscape, and sea access and international borders.
Every year that NBS release statistics, we are bottom in production of solid minerals, including the most recent one:
https://www.proshareng.com/news/Oil%20&%20Gas/Nigeria-Produced-55.85m-Tonnes-of-Solid-Minerals-in-2018---NBS/44488
Why are you finding it so hard to concede that the SE is not the land of milk and honey?

I think you are biased. You underestimate the obvious cracks in the Yoruba religious tolerance tales, while exaggerating the squabbles in Igbo inter denominational Christian divisions.
Oraukwu progressive union is very united and had worked well for Oraukwu progress. Our people are very able to unite over denominational differences and hardly do open confrontations ensue as a result.
Muric wasn't paid by anyone. He is a typical Yoruba Muslim. I had lived in Yoruba land too, and personally know that like every narratives they tend to manufacture and push, the Yoruba so called religious tolerance is overrated.



It has big significance. It highlights a culture incapable of peaceful resolution of conflicts. This reared its ugly head in western region too, when the region broke down in political turmoil,despite being solely mono ethnic then. You can't just wish away the fact that in checkered Yoruba history, they have not done a great work when they had to just deal with each other and not unite against other groups in bigger Nigerian union. It is a pointer to the fact that a Yoruba only country will be full of political turmoil and instability, so much that it could hinder it's progress.



Exactly my point. Yorubas despite what they say, dread Nigeria disintegration. Contrary to the narrative you are pushing, Yorubas are not neutral as far as issue of Nigeria unity is concerned. They are firmly for a United Nigeria and would work for it, this I'm sure of. Anyone who wants out of Nigeria must factor Yoruba as a viable threat to counter.
I refuse to believe they believe they can thrive outside Nigeria as a country. Their lips service to wanting regionalism is treacherous at best. Their actions say otherwise.

I doubt you are focused on Igbo aspirations, you are more interested in worshipping your Yoruba benefactors, friends and in-laws. Which is why I'm more inclined at bursting your bubble on them.

I wouldn't really care to talk about Yorubas, except that I find many Igbos here have an unhealthy obsession with them (the mutual resentment between both sides is certainly more bitter on the Igbo side) and demonize them and ascribe supernatural powers of manipulation and deception and low cunning etc on them. Hilariously, an Igbophobic Yoruba would parrot the exact same thing about Igbos and their unseemly ambitions and greed etc. It's almost as if life is a little more complicated than "we are good, and they are bad" and everyone just needs to recognize the humanity and individualism of others and stop grotesque generalizations. Where I find the greatest irony in the anti-Yoruba bile and bitterness I see here is that whether you like it or not, you will never accomplish your objectives (whether the Presidency, or Biafra or whatever) without finding common ground with those that you are so bitter about. Where I also find it strange is that Yorubas are an easy people to relate with - unlike the intransigent, unbending, ruthless North - and share our progressive values. This is why we can go to Lagos and be chanting "no man's land" that we would not dare do in the North because of our understanding of our host's tolerance.
I swear there will be a lot of tears in Igbo land when a Yoruba man wins the 2023 elections if you keep radicalizing yourselves with this level of deep resentment.

And yes, Yorubas favor "one Nigeria", but also favor restructuring that one Nigeria. Restructuring is an article of faith among the entire Yoruba intelligentsia. That they oppose your secession agitation doesn't make them a "threat". That's just a ridiculous statement. That English people worked against Scottish independence agitations doesn't make England a threat to Scotland. I just find it weird the way you radicalize yourself to this state of mind. Your people aren't irreproachable angels while other people are devils. But if you want to keep castigating devils that obstruct your objectives, start with every single politician in Igbo land that clearly do not represent these interests of yours (which is pretty much every single elected or appointed Igbo politician) and leave Yorubas out of it.

Curlieweed:


The way Obiora regurgitates propaganda is scary. It’s difficult to believe that an Igbo person is unaware that the Lower Niger was the real estate that attracted the British to form Nigeria in the first place. If it was not very valuable, the Royal Niger Company will not have received the Royal Charter in the first place.

I am also surprised that he’s unaware that the low oil production in Igboland is engineered. The military government kept the oil fields in the Anambra basin unexplored because they wanted to use that as “strategic reserves”, while fruitlessly searching for oil at the Chad basin. They also carved huge chunks of oil bearing communities from the SE into Rivers State. We are not even talking about oil bearing Igbo communities west of the Niger.

Why would it be "engineered"? That doesn't make any strategic sense. Our oil-dependent economy needs more oil reserves which will lead to a boost in our output. The Anambra basin, and Benue trough and Chad basin and Sokoto basin etc all hold potential. There has been greater focus on the Chad basin among many that hold promise, but oil exploration is a multi-billion dollar investment and unequal attention does not necessarily mean there is some conspiracy involved.

In any case, I have always felt that the argument about natural endowments is misplaced because there are many examples of countries with the great natural advantages that are literal basket cases.

There are also many nations with very serious disadvantages that have been able to turn their proverbial lemons into lemonade. The important thing is a strong and shared will to succeed. Our people say, “onye kwe, chi ya kwe”. This is also true in the collective.

Sure. I agree totally. But sub-saharan Africa's most thriving economies like South Africa, and Gabon, and Botswana are resource-rich. North Africa's highest standards of living are in Libya (at least before the West decapitated its leadership) and Algeria which are resource-rich. The Arab world's highest standard of living are in resource-rich Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia etc - far richer than those with few resources like Yemen or Jordan, or Syria. So let's not pretend natural resources don't matter. They certainly help a lot. The importance is certainly magnified even more in 3rd world countries, which unlike Europeans or Far East Asians with their very sophisticated, industrialized economies, struggle with diversification.

meccuno:
I am just shocked. .in as much as I will not defend Igbos when they are wrong,I will definitely not sit and watch my tribe being humiliated. And these dude you use the anonymous nature of this site to make Igbo people look bad baffles me. They never contribute positively they never speak up when it is necessary but they all come out from.their rat infested holes to start forming politically correct
. Mad people

Trying to impress that's it. Never contributing anything positive or proffering solutions about his people's problems only to show up when it's time to bash them .
Avoid such people.

Obi1kenobi:


Why would it be "engineered"? That doesn't make any strategic sense. Our oil-dependent economy needs more oil reserves which will lead to a boost in our output. The Anambra basin, and Benue trough and Chad basin and Sokoto basin etc all hold potential. There has been greater focus on the Chad basin among many that hold promise, but oil exploration is a multi-billion dollar investment and unequal attention does not necessarily mean there is some conspiracy involved.



Sure. I agree totally. But sub-saharan Africa's most thriving economies like South Africa, and Gabon, and Botswana are resource-rich. North Africa's highest standards of living are in Libya (at least before the West decapitated its leadership) and Algeria which are resource-rich. The Arab world's highest standard of living are in resource-rich Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia etc - far richer than those with few resources like Yemen or Jordan, or Syria. So let's not pretend natural resources don't matter. They certainly help a lot. The importance is certainly magnified even more in 3rd world countries, which unlike Europeans or Far East Asians with their very sophisticated, industrialized economies, struggle with diversification.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories. The decision not to exploit the Anambra Basin was a political one and not based on economics. The FG clearly stated that they were keeping those resources as "strategic reserves". I did not manufacture the term.

Secondly, oil bearing Igbo communities were deliberately carved into Rivers State. In some cases, single communities like Egbema were split into two and the portion with greater oil reserves carved into Rivers State. The Ndokis in Rivers State are still yearning to join their kin in Abia State. This is not a theory. It is a historical reality.

I don't understand why you think that countries in sub-saharan Africa need to follow a different path to development than other parts of the planet. No country on the planet was created with "very sophisticated, industrialized economies". People had to develop the infrastructure, sytems and knowledge base that created the emergence of those industrialized economies.

in the early '60s, the Eastern Regional government piped gas to industrial estates in Aba and PH. They also established Nigersteel, the first steel rolling mill in the country. At that time, some of these economies in East Asia like South Korea were not doing better. South Korea was just emerging from a devastating war ('50s) and most of the industrial infrastructure was located in North Korea.

In terms of natural endownments, very few countries on the planet can match Congo (DRC), yet they are a basket case. Similarly, Nigeria has enormous resources, yet they were rated the 14th most fragile country on earth(2018). Every country has strenghts and weaknesses. The path to success lies in how they are able to leverage their strenghts and minimise the impact of their weaknesses. In some cases, nations have beeen able to turn weaknesses into competitive advantages.

Again, like I said before, this discussion is misplaced. As an Igbo man, I understand that the most important thing is the shared will to succeed.

Omnibus:
Trying to impress that's it. Never contributing anything positive or proffering solutions about his people's problems only to show up when it's time to bash them .
Avoid such people.

I can't stand that guy, walahi!

Would have said that he's definitely not Igbo, but after seeing the likes of Igbokwe, Onochie (that one claims not to be Igbo to boot ), and Kenneth Okonkwo, i've sadly come to realise that self-hating Igbos actually exist.....sad individuals that either place their selfish pecuniary interests above that of their ethnicity or who have hung around Igbo haters a bit too long and have now imbibed their disdain for Ndigbo! To this miserable lot, Igbos are responsible for their situation in Nigeria due to their 'wicked' ways, and but for this their negative attitude, the Fulani and Yoruba (both sterling examples of loving, tolerant and pious conduct as far as they're concerned) would have smothered them with love and begged them to come and be president!

meccuno:
I am just shocked. .in as much as I will not defend Igbos when they are wrong,I will definitely not sit and watch my tribe being humiliated. And these dude you use the anonymous nature of this site to make Igbo people look bad baffles me. They never contribute positively they never speak up when it is necessary but they all come out from.their rat infested holes to start forming politically correct
. Mad people

Very useless guy, I careless to quote him, thank God such idiot doesn't exist in my family, I would've kill him myself, big time efulefu, you can never see him contribute positively to any Igbo thread or defend Igbo interests, always quick to call you out when ever he see you attacking the enemies, seriously I can't hide my feelings for these guys, the idiot and that nonso what ever.

BeautifulMind2:

Very useless guy, I careless to quote him, thank God such idiot doesn't exist in my family, I would've kill him myself, big time efulefu, you can never see him contribute positively to any Igbo thread or defend Igbo interests, always quick to call you out when ever he see you attacking the enemies, seriously I can't hide my feelings for these guys, the idiot and that nonso what ever.

Nwokem, chill abeg. The thing never reach that level.

We are Igbo people and we should not allow other people ( who don't share our egalitarian ethos) to influence us negatively towards intolerance. Obi is simply follwing the best Igbo traditions and exercising his right to free speech. If we don't examine the negative aspects of issues, we stand the chance of being blindsided by the unexpected. In risk managment, you are usually required to do a threat assessment which forms a basis for managing risks.

My only issue with him is that he doesn't understand how to pass his concerns across in a way that makes it worthy of consideration by the intended audience. He also needs to fact check propaganda before sharing with others.

BeautifulMind2:

Very useless guy, I careless to quote him, thank God such idiot doesn't exist in my family, I would've kill him myself, big time efulefu, you can never see him contribute positively to any Igbo thread or defend Igbo interests, always quick to call you out when ever he see you attacking the enemies, seriously I can't hide my feelings for these guys, the idiot and that nonso what ever.

He is delusional. i have friends like that. they are very many. educated peeps who think that being politically correct is whats up. but gradually they eyes are getting open. i dont hesitate to tell them how it is. when the chips are down, do you think that an outsider would help you instead of his own? there are people like that but in the minority. when there are crises, even that minority would follow what the majority says.

Xander85:


I can't stand that guy, walahi!

Would have said that he's definitely not Igbo, but after seeing the likes of Igbokwe, Onochie (that one claims not to be Igbo to boot ), and Kenneth Okonkwo, i've sadly come to realise that self-hating Igbos actually exist.....sad individuals that either place their selfish pecuniary interests above that of their ethnicity or who have hung around Igbo haters a bit too long and have now imbibed their disdain for Ndigbo! To this miserable lot, Igbos are responsible for their situation in Nigeria due to their 'wicked' ways, and but for this their negative attitude, the Fulani and Yoruba (both sterling examples of loving, tolerant and pious conduct as far as they're concerned) would have smothered them with love and begged them to come and be president!

If I may ask you, of the prominent names you mentioned, who in your lineage past present and maybe future has gotten to the level those people are? Your unguarded hate is simply because of their political leaning which they are entitled to just as you are entitled to yours.
Next time you visit your village, call on your grandparents and/or other people of their generation to explain the popular Igbo saying "Igbo amaghi Eze" meaning Igbo knows no king so that you can understand why the Igbos are said to be republicans in nature, forget what you see in nollywood.
You don't like his guts for saying the incontrovertial truth which you can't counter, when I call you and your likes bigots now, you get angry

Xander85:


I can't stand that guy, walahi!

Would have said that he's definitely not Igbo, but after seeing the likes of Igbokwe, Onochie (that one claims not to be Igbo to boot ), and Kenneth Okonkwo, i've sadly come to realise that self-hating Igbos actually exist.....sad individuals that either place their selfish pecuniary interests above that of their ethnicity or who have hung around Igbo haters a bit too long and have now imbibed their disdain for Ndigbo! To this miserable lot, Igbos are responsible for their situation in Nigeria due to their 'wicked' ways, and but for this their negative attitude, the Fulani and Yoruba (both sterling examples of loving, tolerant and pious conduct as far as they're concerned) would have smothered them with love and begged them to come and be president!

i have a friend who was born in oyo state. he is igbo. speaks Yoruba fluently. initially, he didn't take all these things seriously until it dawned on him. he is very educated. but i can tell you authoritatively that when the chips are down i mean when it involves fighting for mother land. you see all his credentials, he would keep them aside and carry a gum for defense. relax. those igbos wont know what hit them.

BeautifulMind2:

Very useless guy, I careless to quote him, thank God such idiot doesn't exist in my family, I would've kill him myself, big time efulefu, you can never see him contribute positively to any Igbo thread or defend Igbo interests, always quick to call you out when ever he see you attacking the enemies, seriously I can't hide my feelings for these guys, the idiot and that nonso what ever.

What are you still waiting for, we have prominent Igbos known out there who care less about your political views, why not go killing them before searching for someone to kill in your family, empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

meccuno:
i have a friend who was born in oyo state. he is igbo. speaks Yoruba fluently. initially, he didn't take all these things seriously until it dawned on him. he is very educated. but i can tell you authoritatively that when the chips are down i mean when it involves fighting for mother land. you see all his credentials, he would keep them aside and carry a gum for defense. relax. those igbos wont know what hit them.

Let's wait till when the chips are down as predicted by you in reality before you start talking, the chips should not only come down on nairaland.

Yyeske:
What are you still waiting for, we have prominent Igbos known out there who care less about your political views, why not go killing them before searching for someone to kill in your family, empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

Leave that insecure idiot . He is frustrated with life and thinks afonjas and nonso are the cause

Yyeske:
Let's wait till when the chips are down as predicted by you in reality before you start talking, the chips should not only come down on nairaland.

as of yesterday.....i dont take you seriously. you are like Lauretta onochie and that igbo dude in Apc. you will sell your birthright for a plate of porridge. and if you are not Igbo may you never see well for deceiving people.

NonsoWow:
Leave that insecure idiot . He is frustrated with life and thinks afonjas and nonso are the cause

I tire for those bigots who think that every Igbo man, woman and child must reason and act same way and failure to fall in line qualifies as a saboteur, Hausa or Yoruba. I just can't understand their warped and weird reasoning at all. We were not all born at the same time, same environmental, same interaction with the rest of the world to start thinking same way but these bigots think everyone must be beaten into line because they are loud and their opinions is best for everyone.

meccuno:
as of yesterday.....i dont take you seriously. you are like Lauretta onochie and that igbo dude in Apc. you will sell your birthright for a plate of porridge. and if you are not Igbo may you never see well for deceiving people.

While battering your brain if I'm Igbo or not, please go to your village and ask your grandparents or people of their generation what "Igbo amaghi Eze" means because it's obvious that your parents may not even understand because if they did, they ought to have passed the knowledge to you just as my parents did to me. Ask them about the age grade system practiced in Igboland too and how and why they were set up and operated in the past.

Yyeske:
If I may ask you, of the prominent names you mentioned, who in your lineage past present and maybe future has gotten to the level those people are? Your unguarded hate is simply because of their political leaning which they are entitled to just as you are entitled to yours.
Next time you visit your village, call on your grandparents and/or other people of their generation to explain the popular Igbo saying "Igbo amaghi Eze" meaning Igbo knows no king so that you can understand why the Igbos are said to be republicans in nature, forget what you see in nollywood.
You don't like his guts for saying the incontrovertial truth which you can't counter, when I call you and your likes bigots now, you get angry

Is this necessary or are you deliberately derailing the discussion (especially with the highlighted) with inflamatory comments?

Yyeske:
While battering your brain if I'm Igbo or not, please go to your village and ask your grandparents or people of their generation what "Igbo amaghi Eze" means because it's obvious that your parents may not even understand because if they did, they ought to have passed the knowledge to you just as my parents did to me. Ask them about the age grade system practiced in Igboland too and how and why they were set up and operated in the past.

if you are then why the long epistle? fvctard.....

Yyeske:
I tire for those bigots who think that every Igbo man, woman and child must reason and act same way and failure to fall in line qualifies as a saboteur, Hausa or Yoruba. I just can't understand their warped and weird reasoning at all. We were not all born at the same time, same environmental, same interaction with the rest of the world to start thinking same way but these bigots think everyone must be beaten into line because they are loud and their opinions is best for everyone.

It is frustration. PDP losses in 2015 & 2019 hit them very hard. They are struggling to recover and are just using the idea of biafra to ease the pain of defeat. Their frustration will never end .

Curlieweed:


Is this necessary or are you deliberately derailing the discussion (especially with the highlighted) with inflamatory comments?

If you had read some few last comments before I came in, didn't you see how one poster was lambasting some prominent Igbos because of their political leaning, or shouting he'd kill any family member of his if the person should have a different political opinion against his? It is such harsh talk and behaviour that must be done away with from among our people so I'm not trying to derail but trying to correct them. And yes, anybody who isn't tolerant of others views can be said to be a bigot and there's nothing inflammatory about that