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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 5:33pm On Jun 05, 2019
JAWBONE:


If you are talking about extras here, it's the Ethiopian one that should then cost more. Don't try to spin this around. Corruption is clearly involved in the Nigerian. A governorship aspirant in Lagos state made reference to this in the last elections.



































1. Ethiopia is a country, Lagos is a state in Nigeria

2. Ethiopia is constructing a rail project, but Lagos is constructing Metro rail project with 10 lane freeway and BRT bus access

3. Ethiopia borrowed money from China, Lagos state is self-funding their metro rail

4. Ethiopia is not building a metro system with many rail bridges, on swampy land in Iganmu, across the Lagos Lagoon and the Lagos Marina



The Lagos Metro rail is the largest public works in Africa, it's what sovereign Nations embark with sovereign wealth on, not states.

As we speak, work is still going on non-stop.

Again, if you are going to compare, do so intelligently with facts, knowledge and accurate information to compare with because it is really silly and ignorant to keep comparing unrelated projects in different countries with different sets of issues, terrain and basic facts.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by JAWBONE(m): 5:57pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:








1. Ethiopia is a country, Lagos is a state in Nigeria

2. Ethiopia is constructing a rail project, but Lagos is constructing Metro rail project with 10 lane freeway and BRT bus access

3. Ethiopia borrowed money from China, Lagos state is self-funding their metro rail

4. Ethiopia is not building a metro system with many rail bridges, on swampy land in Iganmu, across the Lagos Lagoon and the Lagos Marina



The Lagos Metro rail is the largest public works in Africa, it's what sovereign Nations embark with sovereign wealth on, not states.

As we speak, work is still going on non-stop.

Again, if you are going to compare, do so intelligently with facts, knowledge and accurate information to compare with because it is really silly and ignorant to keep comparing unrelated projects in different countries with different sets of issues, terrain and basic facts.






Cost has nothing to do with your first and third point. The chinese will not charge more because Lagos is a state or because it is self-funded by LASG (which I doubt). And please backup your other points with figures if you can. Yes the nature of the projects differ but when you look at the magnitude of both projects and their respective price difference, there are questions that needs to be answered.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Splashme: 5:59pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:
If you are going to compare, at least equip yourself with detailed facts like specifications and factors like rail tunnels, rail bridges, rail stations and so on.

Peddling figures and making blind comparisons based on figures without facts and details is ignorance and mental laziness.

Lazy Nigerian youths


And you honestly think all the factors you listed here don't apply in the Ethiopia line?

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by kernel01: 6:00pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:





Keep quiet.

These are 2 different projects with different details and specifications. There are zero bases for any kind of comparisons

Why do you people think so dumbo and rettarded?


People are dumbo and rettarded because they choose to think like you.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 6:04pm On Jun 05, 2019
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JAWBONE:


Cost has nothing to do with your first and third point. The chinese will not charge more because Lagos is a state or because it is self-funded by LASG (which I doubt). And please backup your other points with figures if you can. Yes the nature of the projects differ but when you look at the magnitude of both projects and their respective price difference, there are questions that needs to be answered.
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Question:

Are the projects in Ethiopia and Nigeria the same?


Answer that question and see how rretarded you sound.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 6:07pm On Jun 05, 2019
Splashme:



And you honestly think all the factors you listed here don't apply in the Ethiopia line?

They don't and if they do, why is it hard for you people to show us the contract specifications, requirements and even general details for us to see, compare and judge instead of trying to con and fool people that they are the same and that the cost should be the same.


Show us the facts and let's take it from there.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Vikkoh(m): 6:09pm On Jun 05, 2019
OP research before you post jare.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 6:09pm On Jun 05, 2019
kernel01:



People are dumbo and rettarded because they choose to think like you.


No, it is rretarded to say 2 different projects that they know nothing about in 2 different countries are the same and should have the same construction cost, that's rretarded and ignorant.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by JAWBONE(m): 6:20pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:
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Question:
Are the projects in Ethiopia and Nigeria the same?

Answer that question and see how rretarded you sound.
Yes. they are both railway projects constructed by the same company.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Splashme: 6:24pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:
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Question:

Are the projects in Ethiopia and Nigeria the same?


Answer that question and see how rretarded you sound.


Bro, are you OK?
How dare you compare this Lagos-Ibadan crap to the Ethiopia double track electric speed railway?

Stop defending glaring corruption!
Buhari, Amaechi, APC are big thieves and this rail project just exposed them once more.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by kernel01: 6:31pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:



No, it is rretarded to say 2 different projects that they know nothing about in 2 different countries are the same and should have the same construction cost, that's rretarded and ignorant.

No! I totally disagree with you. It's the same company it's not as if we're building Supersonic trains, it's all locomotive, so... What can inflate the price of single rail to be costlier to a double rail?

Man, look Electric trains cost more, because it requires more double steel pole from one pole to the other.

In fact, I guess you've not boarded Nigerian trains before, don't let me share my experience with you. Because it's bitter.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Splashme: 6:51pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:



No, it is rretarded to say 2 different projects that they know nothing about in 2 different countries are the same and should have the same construction cost, that's rretarded and ignorant.


Oga, which part of Nigeria are you from?
You're acting too dumb

The rate Ghana, our West African neighbor is paying China is similar to what Ethiopia paid.
So, why is only Nigeria's rate exceptionally high even with a far less scope of work?

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by RichBoy247: 6:57pm On Jun 05, 2019
Splashme:
The difference is too much
Buhari, Amaechi, APC are big thieves.

Thieves are building railways and roads. What did your lord and saviour Goatluck build in his 6 wasted years? What did PDP build in its 16 wasted years besides building Mama Peace looting accounts? As for the people looting under Buhari's government, when Buhari leaves, they will give account, then Thunder will strike them and their family.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jun 05, 2019
AutoJosh pls can you help to give more clarity abt dis?
We need to know what's up
Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Splashme: 7:19pm On Jun 05, 2019
RichBoy247:


Thieves are building railways and roads. What did your lord and saviour Goatluck build in his 6 wasted years? What did PDP build in its 16 wasted years besides building Mama Peace looting accounts? As for the people looting under Buhari's government, when Buhari leaves, they will give account, then Thunder will strike them and their family.


Oga, is Buhari's govt funding the Lagos-Ibadan railway?

Is signing a loan agreement with China for a project an achievement?

Who cannot do such a simple task?

Didn't GEJ do it in the case of Abuja-Kaduna railway, airport terminals and Abuja MetroLine projects?

See, I only respect leaders who prudently manage resources and fund their own projects.

Engaging China to fund a project with massive loans for future generations to pay is not an achievement.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Bragalane: 7:21pm On Jun 05, 2019
Everyday one NL I have no idea how foolish PDP apologists live on even when the truth is starring them in the face.

Foolish fools among you compared two project concentrating on the cost disparity, more intelligent Nigerians are pointing the difference n possible valid reason that is glaring why the cost of Nigeria is higher but what will foolish PDP lunatics rant about when you can’t put up intelligent debate.

You people are too pathetic n despicable, you lot make me sick.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Oga, you can rant from now till you grow white hairs, it doesn't change the fact that you are a corruption apologist and looter. Arrant gibberish! grin grin grin
Nigerians will be shocked when the life of this government expires. Massive looting supported by their apologists like this illiterate I am quoting now happening silently.
you be looter oga na why u dey vex. Abeg no go kee yourself illiterate like u grin dey use your brain wey God dash yoi

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Bragalane: 7:25pm On Jun 05, 2019
Very true bro.

May it never be well with PDP n each of it supporters n their entire household for spending 16 good year without completing the rail project.


JAWBONE:


Eductated Nigerian youth, please can you tell us how a longer and more sophisticated railway project built by the same company will cost less, or was the Nigerian rail built on water or land reclaimed from sea? Mind you, the Ethiopian railway was completed in six years, we are still dragging our feet here for decades. Disgusting humans like you will go to the ends of the earth to defend a clear case of corruption when it favours your pockets. Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens, bunch of bloody sycophants, enemies of state, enemies of progress, fair-weather activists, brown-envelope critics.
Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Shikini: 7:37pm On Jun 05, 2019
Vikkoh:
OP research before you post jare.


Those are facts.
Google to confirm
Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 7:47pm On Jun 05, 2019
JAWBONE:


Yes. they are both railway projects constructed by the same company.



You're a comedian..

How old are you gan sef

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Shikini: 8:12pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:
If you are going to compare, at least equip yourself with detailed facts like specifications and factors like rail tunnels, rail bridges, rail stations and so on.

Peddling figures and making blind comparisons based on figures without facts and details is ignorance and mental laziness.
Lazy Nigerian youths


The way you Zombies reason surprise me.
How much do they pay you guys biko?

Why not google images of Ethiopia rail line rather than assuming in your small mind that they
are no tunnels nor bridges? You even included rail stations. So, a 756km rail line will not have rail
stations?

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by contigiency(m): 8:24pm On Jun 05, 2019
deomelo:
If you are going to compare, at least equip yourself with detailed facts like specifications and factors like rail tunnels, rail bridges, rail stations and so on.

Peddling figures and making blind comparisons based on figures without facts and details is ignorance and mental laziness.


Lazy Nigerian youths

You are the true son of your father.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Justiceleague1: 9:25pm On Jun 05, 2019
Bragalane:
Everyday one NL I have no idea how foolish PDP apologists live on even when the truth is starring them in the face.

Foolish fools among you compared two project concentrating on the cost disparity, more intelligent Nigerians are pointing the difference n possible valid reason that is glaring why the cost of Nigeria is higher but what will foolish PDP lunatics rant about when you can’t put up intelligent debate.

You people are too pathetic n despicable, you lot make me sick.


Pele o,baba


lolsssssss
grin
Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:48pm On Jun 05, 2019
Bragalane:
Everyday one NL I have no idea how foolish PDP apologists live on even when the truth is starring them in the face.

Foolish fools among you compared two project concentrating on the cost disparity, more intelligent Nigerians are pointing the difference n possible valid reason that is glaring why the cost of Nigeria is higher but what will foolish PDP lunatics rant about when you can’t put up intelligent debate.

You people are too pathetic n despicable, you lot make me sick.

Enemy of the state, first cure yourself of ignorance and foolishness before you bring your madness to the cyberspace.
Please go back and read what the article says very well and stop being dumb. It is quite obvious that you did not read with comprehension unless you were drunk while reading it.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 12:37am On Jun 06, 2019
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Splashme:



Bro, are you OK?
How dare you compare this Lagos-Ibadan crap to the Ethiopia double track electric speed railway?

Stop defending glaring corruption!
Buhari, Amaechi, APC are big thieves and this rail project just exposed them once more.
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1. Your co unintelligent people are doing the comparison, not me.

2. If you are going to compare and claim corruption, you first have to give us the construction the details, contract specifications, built in post-construction maintenance and management agreement, training and other contingencies associated with such projects, land cost and compensation, cost or labour and materials in both environments.

3. When you are done furnishing us with the contract details and documentation, we'll take it from there, but for now, you have nothing but ignorant rumours, internet stock photos and lazy assumptions.

4. If you really are interested in fighting corruption, then do the needful, do some research and dig up credible facts and knowledge about both projects.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 12:46am On Jun 06, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Enemy of the state, first cure yourself of ignorance and foolishness before you bring your madness to the cyberspace.
Please go back and read what the article says very well and stop being dumb. It is quite obvious that you did not read with comprehension unless you were drunk while reading it.




Apart from the cost of relocating some facilities, especially the Nigerian Army 81 Ordinance Corps in Yaba which is estimated at over N5 billion, there is also the relocation of oil and gas pipelines within the Lagos axis. Also, the commitment of government to connect the rail line to the country’s premier port in Apapa comes at a huge cost going by recent presentations made to the minister by the contractor and technical consultant.

Also, the Apapa Port rail sidings initially estimated at 2.4km in the project are now to extend to 6.4km for seamless connection of the standard gauge to all port terminals.


https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/1-5bn-lagos-ibadan-fast-rail-fec-gets-cost-overrun-request-from-amaechi.html


The first article was about cost over which sounds justifiable to me and also why we keep telling you people to stop comparing Ethiopia rail project and the one in Nigeria.

From the rubbish you people posted, it clearly explained similar points we've been making about side issues and spending like paying compensations and dealing with other contingencies like relocating military facilities, relocating gas pipelines, extending tracks by miles.

Are they facing similar challenges in Ethiopia? No, and you can not prove anything.

Inability to read and comprehend shouldn't be one of your many personal issues.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 12:51am On Jun 06, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Criminal element and enemy of the state you cannot defend the indefensible.
I spit on you!

Defend what?. Your ignorant, unintelligent and kindergarten rubbish?

Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by NigeriaIsDoomed: 12:58am On Jun 06, 2019
deomelo:


Defend what?. Your ignorant, unintelligent and kindergarten rubbish?

You are lucky to be a Nigerian, if it were China you and those corrupt government officials would have been executed by now to deter other criminal elements.
Continue to support criminals because of the crumbs you are picking from the table.
Folks like you is why Nigeria has been stripped of everything by criminals since 1960.

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 1:00am On Jun 06, 2019
JAWBONE:


Yes. they are both railway projects constructed by the same company.


The projects are the same because they are both railway projects constructed by the same company?

So, Toyota Camry car in Nigeria and Ethiopia share the same cost just because they are made by the same company?



I hope and pray that you people are not the smartest people in your village because if so, your village is doomed. grin grin

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Shikini: 2:36am On Jun 06, 2019
Splashme:
The difference is too much
Buhari, Amaechi, APC are big thieves.

My brother ....

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Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by Shikini: 3:52am On Jun 06, 2019
gratiaeo:
That is Nigeria government for you.


It's very sad
Re: Railway Projects: Cost Comparison Between Nigeria Vs Ethiopia by deomelo: 4:03am On Jun 06, 2019
Splashme:



Oga, is Buhari's govt funding the Lagos-Ibadan railway?

Is signing a loan agreement with China for a project an achievement?

Who cannot do such a simple task?

Didn't GEJ do it in the case of Abuja-Kaduna railway, airport terminals and Abuja MetroLine projects?

See, I only respect leaders who prudently manage resources and fund their own projects.

Engaging China to fund a project with massive loans for future generations to pay is not an achievement.




Also with Chinese loan, even though his administration generated over $400 billion oil wealth on top of the ECA and other reserves they looted.

GEJ and Okonjo stole $2.3 billion and gave it to Dasuki to share with their PPDP cronies from Fayose, to FFK, Metuh and others.

That $2.3 billion is enough to build the same Lagos Ibadan Railway we are talking about.

You people need to get your facts right

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