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Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 2:22pm On Jun 08, 2019
Najib would defend the honor of Muhammad at the cost of human lives

najib: I was told about the beauty pageants issue, and the protest is Justified how dare that man (I have forgotten his name) say that prophet Muhammad S.A.W will choose an unchaste as his wife?
So what!? Does that give any Muslim any right to pick melee weapons and start wounding and killing? What nonsense is this? This riot shed so much blood and destroyed so much property, yet what matters to you most is the 'honor' of your prophet?

Also, see how he refers to the participants of the beauty peagent as 'unchaste', as if he knows all these women in their private life. I've said it days ago, we have to be careful exposing our females to fanatic Muslims because these Muslims are very sick and perverted minded folks who look down upon at non-hijab wearing women.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 2:23pm On Jun 08, 2019
And, No. I'm no fan of beauty peagent, I believe women should not be judged based on their looks. Speaking of looks, that includes hijab or headscarf. I believe women without headscarf and hijab should not be treated with any less respect than women with them.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 2:23pm On Jun 08, 2019
I also support the boycott of Denmark why will they draw the messenger of Allah S.A.W? Did the Muslims ask them? Or do they love the messenger of Allah S.A.W more than us? If you know that when you try to touch a scorpion and it will sting and you go ahead to touch will you blame it?
Sorry, but Muhammad was an historical figure, just like Ceaser, Alexander the great. Muslims have no copyright protection over Muhammad. Non-Muslims have every right to draw Muhammad. Non-Muslims are not bound by sharia law, especially in secular countries.

Also, see the silly analogy with scorpions he makes here. Nigeria educational system is a failure, it graduate uneducated literates. There is more focus on grades and passing exams than understanding concepts, and that's why we produce graduates that can't think for themselves but rather prefer to live by the thinking of their ancestors.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 2:26pm On Jun 08, 2019
A scorpion tail belongs to a scorpion. Muhammad does not belong to anyone. He was a public figure and every member of the public have a right to express their opinion about him. Please see my thread on Qur'an and Human Right; https://www.nairaland.com/4789914/quran-human-rights-freedom-equity#72569170
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 12:51pm On Jun 09, 2019
Najib's Chronic Ignorance & Pathological Bias

najib: This are just tactics by the west to justify the atrocities made against Muslims. Till today America is yet to provide the evidence of WMD's they accuse Sadam Hussein of. They're the one's that sponsored and trained Osama bin Laden, but they later called him and the Talibans terrorists.
All of these are half-truth that spread among ignorant Muslims by hearsay, rather than rational inquiries.

US trained bin Laden, a fighter among the Mujahideen to help the Afghans resist the Soviet invasion. May be the US had selfish reasons for doing so, but I'm sure without their help, Afghanistan won't even stand a chance against the Soviets.

Whatever terror bin Laden put his acquired training to, after the war, cannot be blamed on the US. As for the Taliban, they are not on the US list of terrorist organizations.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 12:52pm On Jun 09, 2019
They let Palestinians die like insects everyday
This is not entirely true. US has been funding the international aid for Palestinians until last year. Look, there are 1.6 million Palestinians in Israel. I do not seek to absolve US of all blame, but can we be realistic in our judgments?
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 12:52pm On Jun 09, 2019
support the attrocities on Yemenies and, turn a blind eye to the massacre of the Rohingiyans, sponsor IS and install CIA agents and freemasons as Presidents of a country, while they steal and prepare the world for the coming of the anti-christ.
Hmm .... Typical Muslim apologists, always blaming everyone else for Muslim problems. Never willing to shoulder responsibility. Which do you lose sleep over? That some Muslims are oppressed and persecuted or that some human beings are oppressed and persecuted? I mean I'm confused.

It didn't seem to matter to you earlier that Nigerians were killed in a riot that sparked from alleged blasphemy against Islam, so why does it matter that people in Burma are victimized by the government. Didn't you defend Wahhabis for their massacres of hundreds of Muslims for shirk in the early last century?

Please, be honest and stop discrimination. Oppose all oppressions, not only oppressions against Muslims by non-Muslims.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by Empiree: 10:44pm On Jun 09, 2019
user.mane:
Najib's Chronic Ignorance & Pathological Bias



All of these are half-truth that spread among ignorant Muslims by hearsay, rather than rational inquiries.

US trained bin Laden, a fighter among the Mujahideen to help the Afghans resist the Soviet invasion. May be the US had selfish reasons for doing so, but I'm sure without their help, Afghanistan won't even stand a chance against the Soviets.

Whatever terror bin Laden put his acquired training to, after the war, cannot be blamed on the US. As for the Taliban, they are not on the US list of terrorist organizations.
How do you feel about this now?

https://www.theonion.com/cia-issues-posthumous-apology-after-new-evidence-clears-1831607536

Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by aadoiza: 1:28am On Jun 10, 2019
Empiree:
How do you feel about this now?

https://www.theonion.com/cia-issues-posthumous-apology-after-new-evidence-clears-1831607536
Oh my word!! I wonder why this is not making bold headlines on mass media across the globe.
It's a big shame that the world believed Osama to be the boogeyman all along without any evidence just 'cos America said so, but our brain-dead atheists would demand proof of God's location before believing. As long as the west says so it is knowledge to them, no verifiable proof needed.

Anyone who is half-educated would have known from the outset 9/11 was an inside job; a precursor to waging a relentless war against Islam.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 2:48am On Jun 10, 2019
aadoiza:
It's a big shame that the world believed Osama to be the boogeyman all along without any evidence just 'cos America said so.
9/11 was not the only charge level against bin Laden. He doesn't become a sympathetic victim just because he had no hand in 9/11. He was behind many terror attacks especially with the Talibans in late 90's.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by Empiree:
aadoiza:
Oh my word!! I wonder why this is not making bold headlines on mass media across the globe.
It's a big shame that the world believed Osama to be the boogeyman all along without any evidence just 'cos America said so, but our brain-dead atheists would demand proof of God's location before believing. As long as the west says so it is knowledge to them, no verifiable proof needed.

Anyone who is half-educated would have known from the outset 9/11 was an inside job; a precursor to waging a relentless war against Islam.
it is very shameful.. they all kept mute since report came out in January. I was speechless when i noticed it was january. I thought it was last month when i saw it on fb last month. They feel ashamed. Eventually they will report it
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by aadoiza: 10:18am On Jun 10, 2019
usermane:
9/11 was not the only charge level against bin Laden. He doesn't become a sympathetic victim just because he had no hand in 9/11. He was behind many terror attacks especially with the Talibans in late 90's.
This guy's face was plastered all over the media for what? A crime he never committed, which infamously shot him up to a most unenviable position of the most wanted man in the world and was reportedly making videos in which he claimed responsibility for it. And I should believe he was behind some other attacks just because the same people who wrongfully and intentionally made the boogeyman, a household name in terrorism, said so. It's never gonna happen!!
As things stand now, you'll have to come up with a convincing proof than mere hearsay and western-driven mass media propaganda. I stopped buying their bullshit a long time ago.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by aadoiza: 10:49am On Jun 10, 2019
Empiree:
it is very shameful.. they all kept mute since report came out in January. I was speechless when i noticed it was january. I thought it was last month when i saw it on fb last month. They feel ashamed. Eventually they will report it
When I saw the date I thought my half asleep-half awake state was messing with my vision. Islam became synonymous with terrorism for this singular, premeditated, callous act of the american government on its own citizens, which they misleadingly blamed on Islam and their spawn, Al qaeda.

They dented and sullied the image of Islam using propaganda via their media and when they were supposed to bring to light their deliberate malfeasance on Islam—which would have, at least, redeemed its battered image to a certain degree—they refused to use the same media but rather used an unconventional means. This alone proves everything was well calculated but their ass-licking stooges would still turn a blind eye to it.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 11:18am On Jun 10, 2019
aadoiza:
This guy's face was plastered all over the media for what? A crime he never committed, which infamously shot him up to a most unenviable position of the most wanted man in the world and was reportedly making videos in which he claimed responsibility for it. And I should believe he was behind some other attacks just because the same people who wrongfully and intentionally made the boogeyman, a household name in terrorism, said so. It's never gonna happen!!
As things stand now, you'll have to come up with a convincing proof than mere hearsay and western-driven mass media propaganda. I stopped buying their bullshit a long time ago.
Well, I learnt a few years ago in a Taliban documentary that Mullah Omar confirmed from from bin Laden that he has nothing to do with 9/11. Hence Omar refused to turn in bin Laden after the terror attack.

It is bad that the crime was pined on him. But, he was a part of the Talibans of Afghanistan who of course killed employed murderous terrorist tactics on Afghans that refused to surrender to their rule.

You can do your homework on the Talibans, you don't have to take my words for it.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by Empiree: 2:50pm On Jun 10, 2019
userm.ane:
It is bad that the crime was pined on him. But, he was a part of the Talibans of Afghanistan who of course killed employed murderous terrorist tactics on Afghans that refused to surrender to their rule.

You can do your homework on the Talibans, you don't have to take my words for it.
Remove clog from your eyes and smell coffee.

You still wanna quote ahadith they fabricated to justify their boolsh!t after much evidences pointed at "them"?

Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:11pm On Jun 10, 2019
Najib's failure to see the fault of Muslims in their own failures

najib: I am not justifying the killing of innocent non-Muslims and those who do it will face Allah on the day of Judgement, I didn't know that non-muslims were killed.
Which mean you do not read before you judge. You just open your mouth on matters you don't know about.

I was not comparing Islam to a scorpion I am just giving you an example.
Nope. You were comparing Muslims to a scorpion and Muhammad to the tail of scorpion. How embarrassing to Muslims.

Who is it in the world that doesn't know how the Muslims regard Muhammad S.A.W.
Who in the world doesn't know doesn't know poor, peaceful and innocent Muslims will attack Charlie Hebdo & kill for blasphemy against Muhammad?
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op):
Islam has never done anything like massacre in its history before. We spread the word of Allah, where ever the people start to kill the Muslims and stop the word of Allah from spreading it is obligatory upon the Muslims to fight them. Anyone who does something order than this is on his own.
Ignorance, but could I expect any less from someone that doesn't read before he speaks? This is the same fellow that keeps yelling "jaheel!" at me, because I said the Qur'an erroneously teach that man was created from clot.

Massacre of Banu Qurayza was by Muslims.
Muslims executed about 600 Jewish men on charges of treason, without trial. Every male with pubic hair was executed while the prepubscent males and all the females were enslaved.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:15pm On Jun 10, 2019
Muslims started wars against so many non-Muslim empires after Muhammad's death. This continued until about the 18th century when Christendom became the superpowers. At this point, Muslims began to claim all their wars were defensive. If tomorrow the Muslim world becomes the superpowers, they'll resume their offensive jihad.

Here are a few offensive wars by Muslims;

Invasion and conquest of most of Byzantine empire.
Invasion and conquest of Persia.
Invasion and conquest of India.
Invasion and conquest of Constantinopole - Turkey
Invasion and conquest of North Africa.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:16pm On Jun 10, 2019
Apart from India & Persia, the rest were Christian territories. May be the Christian west thirst for vengeance. Could it be why they have been funding wars in the Muslim world?

Now this ignoramus would have us believe that Muslims only used violence to defend their lives or when the people stop the word of Allah from spreading. Big Lies. Lies after lies after lies. Hadith documents how Muslims waged war;
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:17pm On Jun 10, 2019
First they invite people to Islam. If the people reject Islam, they're fought if they are pagans. If they are people of the book, they have the option of paying periodic tribute to Muslims. If they still refuse to pay tribute, then they are fought. Always, they end up fighting as no non-Muslim territory give up their faith or wealth without a fight.

This is the horrible truth about Muslim history. I was ashamed, Oh God, I knew I was ashamed when I learnt the truth about how bloody Muslim early history is. Christian early history was far purer until long after Christ, when Christianity became the state religion.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:18pm On Jun 10, 2019
You're right but it's not as easy as you think. The presence of the French and British people have disunited the Muslims and many tribes around the world. So it's not as easy as you think. Besides it's all prophesy that's happening when the time comes the forces of evil shall crawl on their knees.
Here we go again. "It is the west that is behind all Muslim problems. They disunited Muslims, fund terrorism, and trained bin Laden." As if blaming the west is not enough, najib turns to the prophecy card. "All these have been prophesied".

Haha, a prophecy is a destiny revealed. If Allah destined the predicament of Muslims then why blame the west? This is just another cheap tactics to excuse Muslims from owning up to their own failures.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:20pm On Jun 10, 2019
Najib invites tru2god to study Islam

An advice to tru2god:
if you're truly true2god then you should study Islam from the orthodox creed if you continue jumping around you'll not see the truth. Start from the bottom to the top, not from the top to the buttom. Islam doesn't have any faults it is the Muslims who have faults.
Of course, if you believe in hitting misbehaving wives, believe that two different sea waters or salt and fresh water are separated by an inviolable barrier, believe that mountains prevent the earth from shaking, then Islam is the has no fault in it.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:29pm On Jun 11, 2019
Najib's unfounded adoration for the flawed righteous caliphs

najib: I swear by Allah there are no leaders from amongst the Christian rulers that are even close to the piety of Abubakar R.A, Umar R.A, Uthman R.A and Ali R.A. All the people that caused fitnah are lovers of the world and Allah will Judge them.
OK, lets' see the history of these 4 caliphs. Najib's role models, the likes of which Christians have none to offer.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:30pm On Jun 11, 2019
Abu Bakr deprived an orphan, the prophet's daughter of her inheritance

Fatimah daughter of Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sent a messenger to Abu Bakr demanding from him in inheritance of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) from what Allah bestowed on him at Medina and Fadak, and what remained of the fifth of Khaibar. Abu Bakr said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) has said: We are not inherited. Whatever we leave is sadaqah. The family of Muhammad will eat from this property. I swear by Allah I shall not change it from the former condition of its being sadaqah as it was in the time of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). I shall deal with it as the Messenger of Allah dealt with it. Abu Bakr, therefore, refused to give anything to Fatimah from it.
Abu Bakr's arrogance & sense of entitlement to the seat of caliph

Abu Bakr said: "Am I not the most deserving of it among the people, am I not the first to become Muslim, am I not the person of such and such, am I not the person of such and such."
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:31pm On Jun 11, 2019
Umar, fought with his wife in presence of his guest

"I was a guest (at the home) of 'Umar one night, and in the middle of the night he went and hit his wife, and I separated them. When he went to bed he said to me: 'O Ash'ath, learn from me something that I heard from the Messenger of Allah" A man should not be asked why he beats his wife, and do not go to sleep until you have prayed the Witr."' And I forgot the third thing."
Umar, bullies a man for reciting the Qur'an differently

I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Messenger
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:32pm On Jun 11, 2019
Ali, burnt humans alive

That 'Ali burnt some people who apostasized from Islam. This news reached Ibn 'Abbas, so he said: "If it were me I would have killed them according to the statement of Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'Whoever changes his religion then kill him.' And I would not have burned them because the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'Do not punish with the punishment of Allah.' So this reached 'Ali, and he said: "Ibn 'Abbas has told the truth."
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:33pm On Jun 11, 2019
Uthman's nepotism and corruption cost him his life

I have no hadith on Uthman, but every one knows he was hated in his days, which led to revolts against reign and his eventual murder. Uthman's opponents condemned him particularly for embezzlement and nepotism, favoring his clan for the top ruling position.

But Sunnite scholars fabricated stories whitewashing Uthman. It is one of those stories that najib tells tru2god here;
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:34pm On Jun 11, 2019
Since when that Jew named Abdullah ibn Sabah became a Muslim in order to cause problems amongst the Muslims. He started to spread lies about Usman R.A in Medina, he failed. Then he went to greater Syria, were there wasn't a great presence of the companions of the messenger of Allah S.A.W, he succeeded in this until he was able to cause the death of Usman R.A.
Of course, if the Muslims fell into civil war because of the lies of one Jew, then their community must've been spineless to begin with.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 5:35pm On Jun 11, 2019
The Unspoken Truth of the 'Righteous Caliphs'

There is nothing adorable about the first 4 Muslim caliphs. They led offensive wars, they enslaved and were power greedy. If you seek the other side of the story on these caliphs, please read Dr. Ahmed Subhy Mansur's extensive research publication on them;

The Unspoken Truth of the 'Righteous Caliphs'
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:17pm On Jun 12, 2019
Empyree's history of antisocial behavior

Before I delve into Empyree's ignorance and misinformation on this thread, I'd like to delve in his psyche.

Empyree is a lot like najib - Ignorant and ill tempered. Unlike najib, he is not new on this board, he's learned to check his temper over the years. But he still has his moments, which, trust me, I have found myself at the receiving end at times.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by usermane(op): 4:17pm On Jun 12, 2019
There is another thing, however, that separate Empyree from najib. Something that caused me to realize this fellow can be very toxic to deal with. And that is Emotional/Psychological manipulation. In the past, I've explained that he employs abusive tactics often employed by narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths.

He often intimidates his opponents, he would troll and taunt them, guilt trip them in order to have the last word or laugh. One moment, he's approving them, and the next moment he is demonizing them. And soon enough, he is loling with them again. This is not normal behavior.
Re: Mariah Carey Performed Live In Saudi Arabia (near Makkah): Thread Commentary by Empiree: 4:31pm On Jun 12, 2019
^^^

Why are you perambulating cheesy

Just say it out loud that I am 'bipolar' grin cheesy grin cheesy

And do i need t tell you too that you have grown over the years from hiding behind hijab to exposing your real intent?. Lately it has become your norm to defend evil openly in 'islam section'. The recent one was your today's comment trying to defend homosexual. You have been defending vices lately and you have twisted verse of Quran in the past years. But today, you actually came out to deny the ayat outright which means you are in the borderline btw kufr and belief.

And yes, I intimidate my opponents, troll and taunt them from miles away. It is the sunnah of the prophet grin His enemies were scared of him from afar equivalent to a month journey.
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