₦airaland Forum

9jaRealist:
You mean like the almost 350 rotting and decomposed unburied bodies discovered at the Tri-State Crematory in Georgia a few years back?

The reality is that most poor folk in a place like the US and cremated and/or crammed into mass graves (in my original hometown of NYC, it’s out on the isolated island known as Potters’ Field). And of course a fair number of people donate their remains for medical research.

I think Africans often make too much of an emotional investment in so-called “ancestral land” (often forgetting that most humans only settled where they ended up after migrating from somewhere else), but that is frankly no different than the original owners of North America (the Native Americans) and several others do. Nonetheless, the emotional pull to return is family, extended family and community - not a piece of earth. Accordingly, as more people emigrate and congregate elsewhere, that pull will weaken but unlikely to ever completely go away.
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Isnt a crematory a place to cremate (burn) bodies, a growing choice for many in the West?
If the bodies were discovered there, it means a crime had been committed (at least misdemeanor for improperly disposing of human remains plus some sort of felony fraud). The discovery would definitely lead to charges, thats the way things work in any advanced/ decent society.
While i am not aware of that incident, it probably is the basis for an episode of Law and Order that i watched.
My experience in the USA is respect for both the living and the dead. Have visited many states here over many years, never once saw a dead body lying on the street or a dis organized burial ground. EVERY burial ground i have seen and there have been many, have all wowed me like is this really a burial ground?
No where on Earth is perfect, but there is nothing like a society that purses order, decency and punishes crime.

9jaRealist:
Without seeking to compare apples with oranges...
Would her death be any worse than sending kids to school only for them to shot up in the US? Sadly, crime is universal.
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Does it happen everyday in the US? It's very unusual for things like that to take place in the US thats why the media like CNN, BBC buzz hard.

It is not unusual a news in Nigeria. It happens almost everyday.

And you know what hypocrisy is? It's simply when boko haram kidnaps over a hundred children in Broad day light from schools and your concern is less than 4 casualties in the US. Why deceive yourself?

what a wicked world we live in.

Dredgemaster:
. Every time something bad happens to you in Lagos it's afonja but when good things happen it's because you're so brave and smart. Did anyone write you an invitation letter to come to Lagos?. Fools

Get the fvck outta here, you bitch-azz nigga. Get the strap mo'fvcka. Who told you I was in your slum ass Lagos and shyt. Run along kiddo and don't quote me no more.

flowmama:
Does it happen everyday in the US? It's very unusual for things like that to take place in the US thats why the media like CNN, BBC buzz hard.

It is not unusual a news in Nigeria. It happens almost everyday.

And you know what hypocrisy is? It's simply when boko haram kidnaps over a hundred children in Broad day light from schools and your concern is less than 4 casualties in the US. Why deceive yourself?

Mass shootings in the US averages MORE THAN ONCE DAILY!

Again, not seeking to compare tragedies or criminality (because they are ALL bad) nor apples with oranges, but in 2017 there were 577 mass shootings in the US (mass shootings defined as involving 4 or more victims), and nearly 40,000 deaths from gun violence in 2018 (which by definition does not include non-fatal victims of gun violence). In contrast, do not hear of people being pushed off a bus everyday in Nigeria.

It personally pains me to relieve the horrific statistics, but who exactly told you casualties of US mass shootings in schools are “less than 4 casualties”? Sandy Hook Elementary School were 27 deaths, mostly infants. Parkland, Florida (Stoneman Douglas High) were 17, while Columbine High School were 13, and Virginia Tech were 32, among so many others so numerous to count.

The foregoing are just school shootings, where parents sent their innocent kids to school and they returned in body bags. At least Boko Haram is terrorism and a low grade war (an insurgency), which is not any more “normal” as the attack on the World Trade Centers was. Again, the unfortunate reality is that crime and criminality is a universal phenomena. Acting like it’s peculiar to Nigeria is just obtuse.

May the souls of all the dearly departed innocents rest in eternal peace!
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babzo:
Isnt a crematory a place to cremate (burn) bodies, a growing choice for many in the West?
If the bodies were discovered there, it means a crime had been committed (at least misdemeanor for improperly disposing of human remains plus some sort of felony fraud). The discovery would definitely lead to charges, thats the way things work in any advanced/ decent society.
While i am not aware of that incident, it probably is the basis for an episode of Law and Order that i watched.
My experience in the USA is respect for both the living and the dead. Have visited many states here over many years, never once saw a dead body lying on the street or a dis organized burial ground. EVERY burial ground i have seen and there have been many, have all wowed me like is this really a burial ground?
No where on Earth is perfect, but there is nothing like a society that purses order, decency and punishes crime.

Dude, EVERY (all virtually every, bit definitely all Nigerian/African) culture respect the dead...

Thus, if you see something disrespectful of the dead ANYWHERE (including the US or Nigeria), it is not the norm. The only difference is that some societies have more resources (not necessarily more respect) and capacity to more quickly redress problems and/deviations. Nonetheless, if you watched John Oliver’s “Last Week Tonight” show on HBO about 2 weeks again, which focused on coroners, you would have discovered the rather unacceptable frequent recurrence of corpse desecration, mishandling and even abuse in the US. And these are not just the cases of people desecrating head stones, or young people shitting, peeing, smoking weed, having sex, etc. in cemeteries.
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blessedweapon:
Get the fvck outta here, you bitch-azz nigga. Get the strap mo'fvcka. Who told you I was in your slum ass Lagos and shyt. Run along kiddo and don't quote me no more.

. I'm not even your father's mate, so I have no reason to exchange words with you. One quick question though, how many people in your family lives in that slum with no hope of ever leaving?

Dredgemaster:
. I'm not even your father's mate, so I have no reason to exchange words with you. One quick question though, how many people in your family lives in that slum with no hope of ever leaving?

None bro, None.

Lest I forget, you're an idiot. Fvck outta here punk ass nigga. I'm not your mate either. Check yourself son

blessedweapon:
None bro, None.

Lest I forget, you're an idiot. Fvck outta here punk ass nigga. I'm not your mate either. Check yourself son

. Ok Grandpa, sorry for making you cry, you can stop wailing now

luminouz:
That 'dump' is ur ancestral land...so u will die in a strange land bereft of ur ancestral kindred!!! Nothing and no one to mourn ur passing or point to ur grave...no historical significance of ur existence in ur homeland,a lost soul,a stranger,unwanted and alone!!!

Shame on u!!!

LOL �, shame on you, nothing means anything to a dead being, if u like praise him or curse him it doesn't mean Jack once u are dead. Yes I will be glad to die and be buried in a foreign country where I lived my life peacefully and stress free than die in this useless country called Nigeria because u want people to remember your grave smh �‍♂️ omoko..

joungblood:
LOL �, shame on you, nothing means anything to a dead being, if u like praise him or curse him it doesn't mean Jack once u are dead. Yes I will be glad to die and be buried in a foreign country where I lived my life peacefully and stress free than die in this useless country called Nigeria because u want people to remember your grave smh �‍♂️ omoko..

Easy hommie! I know ur suffering and hungry but if every of ur ancestors leave the country,who will develop it to the extent it is now? Do u see Chinese saying stuffs like u? Or even Ghanaians? They went back to their country and now they are deporting Nigerians...if you don't develop this land,who will?
Everytime u leave for abroad,a branch of ur family tree dies and can't be replaced, hundreds of thousands of ur ancestral culture,beliefs,lore,history and knowledge of native plants,cures,recipes,skills are also lost. Soon enough,ur land become a colony of the whites cuz u have nothing native to ur culture left in ur descendants. Its called a cultural shock/vacuum...and ur offsprings will be lost in a world where there is no culture!! Nothing left of home/motherland for them to hold on to,as their origin!

You staying or leaving the country won't change a thing.. U talking about all this talk of coming back to Nigeria to build the country and stuff.. Oga Nigerians are always coming back to the country when they go out n make money, we always do, so many people go abroad hustle and come back with money to this useless country then start up a company that produces something but the people/government will rather buy from the foreigners or from the white man's products than our own.. How many of our government dey support young peoples ideas? They don't care nor value it, so what is wrong with going somewhere else where it is appropriated.. Look at the news today, people go abroad stay some years when they come back Nigeria it's either police mistakenly kill them or u here say someone for village use juju kill them because of jealousy... Look at Canada, they have a program that gives visa and stay to skilled people.. Those guys are so wise collecting people from all over the world with good skills and ideas to build and better their country.. Look at Nigeria and see the way skills and ideas are wasting and dying by the minutes,smh �‍♂️ n u telling me one should stay n develope the country, Oga forget all those nonsense talk about ancestors and shit.. I am not living my life to please any fucking ancestors or some old beliefs and bla bla bla.. Bullshit.
It will take many years before Nigeria can be anything near ok as a country. With so much wealth and natural resources we are still among the poorest. Please don't get me started abeg.. Let them present a visa to Europe to live forever to every Nigerians and let's see if everyone will not take it.. Including you that is here

luminouz:
Easy hommie! I know ur suffering and hungry but if every of ur ancestors leave the country,who will develop it to the extent it is now? Do u see Chinese saying stuffs like u? Or even Ghanaians? They went back to their country and now they are deporting Nigerians...if you don't develop this land,who will?
Everytime u leave for abroad,a branch of ur family tree dies and can't be replaced, hundreds of thousands of ur ancestral culture,beliefs,lore,history and knowledge of native plants,cures,recipes,skills are also lost. Soon enough,ur land become a colony of the whites cuz u have nothing native to ur culture left in ur descendants. Its called a cultural shock/vacuum...and ur offsprings will be lost in a world where there is no culture!! Nothing left of home/motherland for them to hold on to,as their origin!

joungblood:
You staying or leaving the country won't change a thing.. U talking about all this talk of coming back to Nigeria to build the country and stuff.. Oga Nigerians are always coming back to the country when they go out n make money, we always do, so many people go abroad hustle and come back with money to this useless country then start up a company that produces something but the people/government will rather buy from the foreigners or from the white man's products than our own.. How many of our government dey support young peoples ideas? They don't care nor value it, so what is wrong with going somewhere else where it is appropriated.. Look at the news today, people go abroad stay some years when they come back Nigeria it's either police mistakenly kill them or u here say someone for village use juju kill them because of jealousy... Look at Canada, they have a program that gives visa and stay to skilled people.. Those guys are so wise collecting people from all over the world with good skills and ideas to build and better their country.. Look at Nigeria and see the way skills and ideas are wasting and dying by the minutes,smh �‍♂️ n u telling me one should stay n develope the country, Oga forget all those nonsense talk about ancestors and shit.. I am not living my life to please any fucking ancestors or some old beliefs and bla bla bla.. Bullshit.
It will take many years before Nigeria can be anything near ok as a country. With so much wealth and natural resources we are still among the poorest. Please don't get me started abeg.. Let them present a visa to Europe to live forever to every Nigerians and let's see if everyone will not take it.. Including you that is here

SMH...for you!!!

One love bro!!!

Dredgemaster:
. Ok Grandpa, sorry for making you cry, you can stop wailing now

say hi to your grandma(my girlfriend) for me.

One love(keep us together) bro!!![/quote]

If you don't forgive, you give the past the opportunity it needs to keep you away from the future you desire