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Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 5:48pm On Jun 16, 2019
AstralBody:
I have noticed you,are u ok now?
no,am not okay....

my car broke down,i have to use the bus to go work tommorow....

am pissed and angry.... angry angry
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 5:55pm On Jun 16, 2019
Ikechu12:
I always laugh when I read Afonja actually rejoicing over the Biafra war claiming another war would spell room for Biafra.

Niggeria had MORE military casualties than Biafra. Biafra had MORE civilian casualties. For those too stupid to understand what that means is that Biafran soliders killed more Niggeria did theres. Infact, Niggeria resulted to the blockade because of that factor. During the first war, Biafra had less weapons, less training and less military personnel than Niggeria yet they still did enough damage to result to Niggeria going after their unarmed civilians especially their most precious ones aka children and women to defeat them. Let that sink in.

2019 is NOT 1967. Niggeria has majority of the upper hand it had back then..

One allies.
Most nation that helped Niggeria back then; if we look at their actions when Niggeria went all over the world begging for assistance with Boko Haram will definitely provide no assistance. If not for Boko Haram invading Niget and Cameroon, both equally showed lack of interest helping Niggeria.

Likewise, the British that provided the most aid to Niggeria during the first war equally have been compromised. There's more Igbo politicians in British leadership than any other tribe in that Niggeria. I highly highly doubt those Igbos will sit quiet as Britian would provide weaponry to Niggeria to fight Igbo people. In addition to those Igbo, the Biafra agitation have equally increased some British politicians supporters hence the people that have included supporting Biafra division in their parliament were not Igbo likewise the few that signed the petition were equally not of igbo descendant.

UN and ICC
There's equally enough Igbo in that leadership for any war activities including the cowardly and pathetic way resulted to after getting slaughtered like Rams (starvation policy) will definitely not be over looked or ignored like it was last time.

Diaspora
Igbo have too many Igbos in the right places. And right education to play a role. I'll use America's military for example. There's more Igbo USA military than other ethnic groups due to alot of Igbos utilizes that avenue to gain citizenship to USA. I highly doubt those trained in US military will sit idily by while the war. Hell the first war, several Igbos in diaspora, especially the males, went home to join the military while some equally provided aids to Biafra by sending funds as well as illegal weaponry to Biafra. If I remember correctly Dik Tiger funded Biafra significantly during the first war. At that time, not that many Igbos were living aboard thus not much major foreign income came into biafra for aid. The opposite is the case in year 2019. Dick Tiger income ALONE as a boxer provided a huge amount of assistance to Biafra. Igbos now has more than 100 Dick Tigers both both in diaspora as well as in that shithole.

Insurgency
Niggeria already has multiple insurgency especially Boko Haram who are doing alot of damage to your weak ass Military. If a war breaks, that means a division of fights thus the already weak military will become weaker. After all, only an idiot would think Boko Haram will simply stop fighting to let the war end first. If anything both Biafra soliders and Boko Haram might actually team up despite their differences. As they say the enemy of my enemy is my friend. An Igbo woman is currently the only person they trust and allow to speak to them, therefore, that avenue to connect is there. In addition, judging on the level of hatred Buhari and his dumb military had created on Igbo youths, handing them weapons is another Boko Haram waiting to happen. After all, if you shoot at people without weapons multiple times daring them not to do the act you shot at them for and they still come out doing it again, the worst people to give a gun to and give reasons to shoot back are Niggas that don't give a Bleep if they live or die.

Only a bloody idiot actually believe what occurred in 1967 is what will occur in 2019. Only idiots.

Lastly, I would like to say GOOD MORNING to Nwodo and any Igbo politicians currently pissed of on Buhari's administration. When Nnamdi Kanu was informing you idiots their hate and stating we should divide ourselves out of that shithole, you pigs were busy joining your enemy to insult and attack your people. Ntoooor to every Igbo politicians especially those in APC. A big fat NTOOOOR!!!
chai....

did you just said,ipob and boko haram could join up....??

hahahaha....

Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by mvem(m): 6:09pm On Jun 16, 2019
AstralBody:
Which ever way u see it. There is an extent u can push someone,some regions has been pushed to d extreme limit!
and you think war is the solution. It wasnt the solution before and it wouldn't be. People won't learn from history... Issorite
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 6:42pm On Jun 16, 2019
noble2faith:
Brother, please I would love it if you can follow this link below to see that Yoruba's hatred towards Igbo nation is learning when compared with Igbo's hatred towards Yoruba nation. So far in this current thread, no yoruba had threatened you with genocide but check the link to see how ur pple even called for the annihilation of Yoruba nation.


https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan
we should just forget it and do like nobody said anything....

its not gonna help anything rememberin what some people said....

some igbos dont represent all igbos....

its all just personal opinions....
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by pazienza(m): 7:24pm On Jun 16, 2019
Iamgrey5:
You people are honestly pathetic

Perhaps voting for Atiku in huge numbers while demonizing APC within your region should readily come to mind.

Perhaps you people should know that we gave Jonathan more votes that year than we gave Buhari this year.

Yet, the pathetic Jonathan refused to appoint any Yoruba into any major ministry.


And point of correction, no party zones political post to another party member.

Mukinat was a PDP member.

You always try to twist history

Here is Tambwual submission himself

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/02/my-transactions-with-tinubu-tambuwal/
I don't understand the meaning of the above vacuous post.

We are talking about internal party zoning system here and not ministerial post. Stop unnnecessary diversionary tactics.

Now back to the point.

Did PDP as the majority party not zone the Speaker position to SW in spirit of equity?


Did APC zone the speaker position to SE in spirit of equity but instead lopsidedly zoned it to SW with already VP position in bag?

Did Tinubu as SW ACN leader not liase with Tambuwal who was in PDP as of then to win the speaker position from SW PDP?

If you claim SE PDP members voted for Tambuwal and were in connivance with Tambuwal and SW ACN to stop Mulikat emergence, can you post the result of the voting showing SE rep members voting for Tambuwal and not Mulikat?

If APC zoned Speaker position to SE APC and Ekweremmadu out of need to be the biggest ranked position rallied SE PDP rep members to back a roque Northern APC speaker candidate to win the APC party zoning chosen SE APC rep member , then the SW would be right to mock SE and demand we go to Ekweremmadu and PDP to get our speaker position recovered.
But that's not what happened in 2019. What happened was that SW influenced the APC central structure to eschew equity in allocation of NASS posts and took for themselves a portion that would have otherwise in the spirit of equity have been left for SE, seeing as SW already have VP position.

Every one who isn't blinded by bias would see the injustice and wickedness the SW is promoting in the name of political sophistication, and would also see that SE APC exclusion from NASS, has not same undertone as SW PDP exclusion from NASS in 2011.

While one (SE) APC exclusion was beyond it's control and orchestrated by the party lack of equity. The other
(SW) PDP exclusion in 2011 was self inflicted, after the party (PDP) had zoned the position to the zone, only for Tinubu and SW APC to scuttle it.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by noble2faith(m): 7:36pm On Jun 16, 2019
tsdarkside:
we should just forget it and do like nobody said anything....

its not gonna help anything rememberin what some people said....

some igbos dont represent all igbos....

its all just personal opinions....
Wise words!
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Iamgrey5(m): 7:44pm On Jun 16, 2019
pazienza:
I don't understand the meaning of the above vacuous post.

We are talking about internal party zoning system here and not ministerial post. Stop unnnecessary diversionary tactics.

Now back to the point.

Did PDP as the majority party not zone the Speaker position to SW in spirit of equity?


Did APC zone the speaker position to SE in spirit of equity but instead lopsidedly zoned it to SW with already VP position in bag?

Did Tinubu as SW ACN leader not liase with Tambuwal who was in PDP as of then to win the speaker position from SW PDP?

If you claim SE PDP members voted for Tambuwal and were in connivance with Tambuwal and SW ACN to stop Mulikat emergence, can you post the result of the voting showing SE rep members voting for Tambuwal and not Mulikat?

If APC zoned Speaker position to SE APC and Ekweremmadu out of need to be the biggest ranked position rallied SE PDP rep members to back a roque Northern APC speaker candidate to win the APC party zoning chosen SE APC rep member , then the SW would be right to mock SE and demand we go to Ekweremmadu and PDP to get our speaker position recovered.
But that's not what happened in 2019. What happened was that SW influenced the APC central structure to eschew equity in allocation of NASS posts and took for themselves a portion that would have otherwise in the spirit of equity have been left for SE, seeing as SW already have VP position.

Every one who isn't blinded by bias would see the injustice and wickedness the SW is promoting in the name of political sophistication, and would also see that SE APC exclusion from NASS, has not same undertone as SW PDP exclusion from NASS in 2011.

While one (SE) APC exclusion was beyond it's control and orchestrated by the party lack of equity. The other
(SW) PDP exclusion in 2011 was self inflicted, after the party (PDP) had zoned the position to the zone, only for Tinubu and SW APC to scuttle it.
I don't understand the above uncoordinated post but take a look at Tambwual own interview.

If you are not driven by emotional sentiment; you will clearly see where Tambwual himself admitted that he tried to convince Tinubu about four different times until it was clear to Tinubu that ACN votes was never going to be sufficient to elect Mukinat as he already had majority of PDP, CPC and ANPP votes.

@ Zoning

Clearly nothing was zonned to any region if someone from another geopolitical zone from within thesame party still contrasted for the same position and got the backing of majority of his party members.support

@ other positions.

When the it was clear that Northwest was not going to back down for the Wast, why didn't the PDP zone the position of the deputy speaker to the west, why was it conveniently given to the South East? You must think the South west are really stupid.

What the position of secretary to the federation? a position the president appoints

What of top ministerial slots like ministry of petroleum, defense and co

What of the central Bank?

What of the Chief Judge of the federation?

The PDP didn't deem it feat to appoint Yorubas into any of these aforementioned positions despite the fact they enjoyed a massive support from the Yorubas.

@ zoning positions to the East in APC

South East only has two senators and 3 0r 4 house of representatives from APC, you gave APC only 10% of your votes on two occasions. You practically marginalize anyone in southeast associated with the APC... How in the world do you expect them to zone offices to you?

Unlike your case, Jonathan got nearly 70% of Yoruba votes and there were more than 5PDP senators and more than 20 house of representative members when we were marginalized.

Please don't take South west for a fool.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by pazienza(m):
Iamgrey5:

I don't understand the above uncoordinated post but take a look at Tambwual own interview.

If you are not driven by emotional sentiment; you will clearly see where Tambwual himself admitted that he tried to convince Tinubu about four different times until it was clear to Tinubu that ACN votes was never going to be sufficient to elect Mukinat as he already had majority of PDP, CPC and ANPP votes.
There is no empirical evidence to prove that Tambuwal would have still emerged without SW coordinated ACN support of Tambuwal.
National assembly elections are usually full of intrigues and nothing is set on stone until the result is out.
Tambuwal words mean nothing if you don't have pre NASS election stats to back this up. The PDP members backing Tambuwal were mainly PDP rebels like himself who were also being courted and wooed by Tinubu to join the APC being formed by union of PDP rebels, CPC, ANPP, and Rocha controlled APGA faction. Even the PDP members with Tambuwal were Tinubu and SW ACN allies.

Clearly nothing was zonned to any region if someone from another geopolitical zone from within thesame party still contrasted for the same position and got the backing of majority of his party members.support
It's on record that PDP zoned the Speaker position to SW in 2011. It's also on record that Tambuwal was a renegade who rebelled against party formula and got massive and total support from SW to edge out Mulikat.
NASS elections is full of intrigues. Party members can chose to disobey party directives as we saw with PDP members who defied party consensus candidate Ndume, to vote for Lawan.
However, the party has to be seen to have officially made the right decisions by allocating position in equity and leave the rest to the conscience of members. APC hasn't done this. It outrighly opted to officially marginalize the SE APC caucus, while handing double ration to SW APC. If you want to rationalize why you think SE should get marginalized for SW double ration, you can go on. But what we will not tolerate is you pretending like PDP didn't officially zone the Speaker to SW, while APC couldn't officially zone the Speaker to SE.

@ other positions.

When the it was clear that Northwest was not going to back down for the why didn't the PDP zone the position of the deputy speaker to the west, why was it conveniently given to the South East? You must think the South west are really stupid.
Let's stick to the topic for now. The topic is party internal zoning system for sharing of top 6 posts and place of inclusiveness and equity.
Stick to topic. We are not talking about appointments for now. SE has been severely marginalized by APc on appointments, and let's not forget that we only had a post in NASS on 2015 because of Ekwerremadu rendezvous with Saraki. APC had no plans to carry SE along officially, both in NASS and Appointments since 2015.
But like I said, let's stick to NASS and top six elective posts for now.



@ zoning positions to the East in APC

South East only has two senators and 3 0r 4 house of representatives from APC, you gave APC only 10% of your votes on two occasions. You practically marginalize anyone in southeast associated with the APC... How in the world do you expect them to zone offices to you?

Unlike your case, Jonathan got nearly 70% of Yoruba votes and there were more than 5PDP senators and more than 20 house of representative members when we were marginalized.

Please don't take South west for a fool.
This is not about SE. This is about SE APC members who worked hard for the party despite the resistance they face at home.
Are you saying they don't deserve equity in a party they helped build and for all their efforts?
Democracy is all about inclusiveness.

SW was not marginalized by PDP in 2011. PDP officially zoned the speaker position to SW in 2011. NASS internal politics and Tinubu sabotage resulted in SW losing out.
Has APC officially zoned the speaker position to SE, and Gbajabiamilla managed to still emerge victorious. No one would have blamed APC. But that's not the case here.
What you are virtually saying is that SE APC members are not to get equity in APC and you tried to justify why the party can not officially let equity be, good enough. But don't try to obfuscate issues by entangling it with PDP in 2011, where the party officially went for equity and left the rest to fate. There is simply no basis for analogy between the intrigues of 2011 NASS and 2019.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Iamgrey5(m): 8:32pm On Jun 16, 2019
pazienza:
Iamgrey5:

I don't understand the above uncoordinated post but take a look at Tambwual own interview.



There is no empirical evidence to prove that Tambuwal would have still emerged without SW coordinated ACN support of Tambuwal.
National assembly elections are usually full of intrigues and nothing is set on stone until the result is out.
Tambuwal words mean nothing if you don't have pre NASS election stats to back this up. The PDP members backing Tambuwal were mainly PDP rebels like himself who were also being courted and wooed by Tinubu to join the APC being formed by union of PDP rebels, CPC, ANPP, and Rocha controlled APGA faction. Even the PDP members with Tambuwal were Tinubu and SW ACN allies.



It's on record that PDP zoned the Speaker position to SW in 2011. It's also on record that Tambuwal was a renegade who rebelled against party formula and got massive and total support from SW to edge out Mulikat.
NASS elections is full of intrigues. Party members can chose to disobey party directives as we saw with PDP members who defied party consensus candidate Ndume, to vote for Lawan.
However, the party has to be seen to have officially made the right decisions by allocating position in equity and leave the rest to the conscience of members. APC hasn't done this. It outrighly opted to officially marginalize the SE APC caucus, while handing double ration to SW APC. If you want to rationalize why you think SE should get marginalized for SW double ration, you can go on. But what we will not tolerate is you pretending like PDP didn't officially zone the Speaker to SW, while APC couldn't officially zone the Speaker to SE.



Let's stick to the topic for now. The topic is party internal zoning system for sharing of top 6 posts and place of inclusiveness and equity.
Stick to topic. We are not talking about appointments for now. SE has been severely marginalized by APc on appointments, and let's not forget that we only had a post in NASS on 2015 because of Ekwerremadu rendezvous with Saraki. APC had no plans to carry SE along officially, both in NASS and Appointments since 2011.
But like I said, let's stick to NASS and top six elective posts for now.





This is not about SE. This is about SE APC members who worked hard for the party despite the resistance they face at home.
Are you saying they don't deserve equity in a party they helped build and for all their efforts?
Democracy is all about inclusiveness.

SW was not marginalized by PDP in 2011. PDP officially zoned the speaker position to SW in 2011. NASS internal politics and Tinubu sabotage resulted in SW losing out.
Has APC officially zoned the speaker position to SW, and Gbajabiamilla managed to still emerge victorious. No one would have blamed APC. But that's not the case here.
What you are virtually saying is that SE APC members are not to get equity in APC and you tried to justify why the party can not officially let equity be, good enough. But don't try to obfuscate issues by entangling it with PDP in 2011, where the party officially went for equity and left the rest to fate. There is simply no basis for analogy between the intrigues of 2011 NASS and 2019.
@ emboldened

You are a joke

Do you know what empirical evidence means?

Tambwual himself said you can go and subtract APC votes and he will still have won in a open interview grin And nobody disputed it.

Perhaps you go and do the mathematics for yourself.

No PDP deliberately marginalized Yorubas because it was PDP votes that made Tambwual the speaker.

And no, SE APC is virtually non existing becauseTwo is not equal to Fifteen.

You guys will have been singing a different song had it been Atiku had won.

Stop disturbing me with long meaningless epistles.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by pazienza(m): 8:41pm On Jun 16, 2019
Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

You are a joke

Do you know what empirical evidence means?

Tambwual himself said you can go and subtract APC votes and he will still have won in a open interview grin And nobody disputed it.

Perhaps you go and do the mathematics for yourself.

No PDP deliberately marginalized Yorubas because it was PDP votes that made Tambwual the speaker.

And no, SE APC is virtually non existing becauseTwo is not equal to Fifteen.

You guys will have been singing a different song had it been Atiku had won.

Stop disturbing me with long meaningless epistles.
The joke is on you. Tambuwal is a politician. I'd rather have the facts and figures myself than what he said. He wasn't the umpire to the NASS election, was he?

So provide the figures that showed SE and SS PDP members backed Tambuwal over Mulikat or forever keep your teacherous mouth shut.
The burden of proof is on you. Provide the stats.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by johntolu:
Yyeske:
Don't spit on the Igbos because of some misguided miscreants please, I'm Igbo too and I remembered that that thread and even tried cautioning some of our brothers, several Igbos did same.
Don't throw the baby and the dirty water away, we still have sensible Igbos who are proud of being Nigerians and they are in the far majority.
Stop taking what you see on social media as the fact on ground please.
Thanks for your mature comment, my brother.
I want to state that it is not a crime for any ethnic nationality to clamor for self determination.
What breeds bad blood and distrusts when calls for self determination is being made by a particular tribe, is when other ethnic nationalities are being blackmailed and harassed when demands for self determination is being made by a particular group.
The mere fact that notable Yoruba leaders were not in support of the Biafran cause during the civil war and during recent agitations for Biafra, does not in any way, suggest that some Yorubas are not sympathetic towards your cause.

The only thing permanent in politics is self-interest. Time was, when the Igbo Nation, was the preferred bride of the Hausa-Fulanis, in political alliance in Nigerian politics. All the juicy posts both in the 1st & 2nd Republic, besides the Prime Minister and President posts, went the way of the Igbo Nation while the Yorubas, were in opposition and there was no cry of 'Oduduwa Republic or death', by the Yorubas.
The Igbo Nation should learn how to play opposition politics while it lasts and wait for when their preferred political party will be voted to power.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Ikechu12: 4:31am On Jun 17, 2019
tsdarkside:
chai....

did you just said,ipob and boko haram could join up....??

hahahaha....
Who is this idiot on my mentions. Ewu go and learn how war is fought all over the fucking world. Enemy unite when they have one singular enemy they are trying to defeat you dumbass. This has been proven REPEATEDLY by every fucking war fought in history including internal conflict. Pick up a fucking book and read for once in that miserable shit you call a life. Get educated..it's a good thing
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Ikechu12:
Greenback:
To hell with and your evil thoughts.

When SS people voice their opinions that doesn't go with your warped thoughts,you childishly label them "attached".

Only a bastard will deny his origin and claim to belong to where he ain't from.

I hope you ain't one
Splashme:
Oga, I'm not from SE .
I also know what I'm talking about

There's a strong bond between these two sister regions and your opinion is irrelevant
Their voting pattern should tell you
That Yyeske dude is Yoruba pretending to be Igbo from Anambra like most of them on this forum pretending to be igbo. Don't ever expect anything sensible from that coward
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 5:03am On Jun 17, 2019
Ikechu12:
Who is this idiot on my mentions. Ewu go and learn how war is fought all over the fucking world. Enemy unite when they have one singular enemy they are trying to defeat you dumbass. This has been proven REPEATEDLY by every fucking war fought in history including internal conflict. Pick up a fucking book and read for once in that miserable shit you call a life. Get educated..it's a good thing
but ipob and boko teamin toghether is more than ridiculous....
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Ikechu12: 5:20am On Jun 17, 2019
tsdarkside:
but ipob and boko teamin toghether is more than ridiculous....
Truly you're the definition of an idiot. I repeat Go get yourself educated.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 5:23am On Jun 17, 2019
Ikechu12:
Truly you're the definition of an idiot. I repeat Go get yourself educated.
whats all this insults about....??

did i insulted you tellin you that your assumption is crazy....??

you,fruitcake....

do anyhow and see how you will be rushed,wheather with boko haram or not....
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 7:34am On Jun 17, 2019
Ikechu12:
This is my last post to your ignorant ass.

Noone needs you to insult to identify you as stupid. You are literally the stupidest person I've witnessed on this forum. I've seen your post, hell I've argued with you before and everything I've witnessed about you, not once I've I ever witnessed any type of intellect in the ignorance you display. Shit, everybody has occasionally displayed stupidity a time or another on this forum but they have equally made a comment that display some form of education occasionally. In your case, nobody has ever witnessed you write anything that displayed you have half a sense. Hell, if I remember correctly, I've told your dumbass to stop quoting me because each time I read anything from you, I feel like I lost some brain cells just communicating with you. Listen to wtf I said and STOP quoting me..

Secondly, only someone as braindead as you would think Biafra soliders = IPOB only. Who fucking mentioned IPOB in my post. slowpoke READ the fucking topic you are on before diving in to write out your opinion and once again justifying to us how braindead you are like most people on this forum think you are.

Since you are too slow to READ, let me break it down for you. The topic is possiblity of a second war involving Biafra vs. Niggeria.

Boko Haram enemy as we known now is Niggerian military
If a war breaks, Biafran enemy as we know would be Niggerian military.
Both group have similar enemy and naturally like every war/fight fought out there, group with differences usually unite to defeat a common fucking enemy. Hell even if you're too stupid to read a book, fucking TV shows equally display that human behavior in it's storyline. Like I said, pick up a book for once... It's actually a good thing. Now Bleep off my mention you 1mbecile.
do you normaly communicate like this with other people....??

i know people,if you talk like this to them face to face,they would gladly punch you in the face....

cheer up,man....last i checked,we are still not at war....

or you declared war on nigeria that we dont know about....??
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Yyeske(m): 7:54am On Jun 17, 2019
johntolu:
Thanks for your mature comment, my brother.
I want to state that it is not a crime for any ethnic nationality to clamor for self determination.
What breeds bad blood and distrusts when calls for self determination is being made by a particular tribe, is when other ethnic nationalities are being blackmailed and harassed when demands for self determination is being made by a particular group.
The mere fact that notable Yoruba leaders were not in support of the Biafran cause during the civil war and during recent agitations for Biafra, does not in any way, suggest that some Yorubas are not sympathetic towards your cause.

The only thing permanent in politics is self-interest. Time was, when the Igbo Nation, was the preferred bride of the Hausa-Fulanis, in political alliance in Nigerian politics. All the juicy posts both in the 1st & 2nd Republic, besides the Prime Minister and President posts, went the way of the Igbo Nation while the Yorubas, were in opposition and there was no cry of 'Oduduwa Republic or death', by the Yorubas.
The Igbo Nation should learn how to play opposition politics while it lasts and wait for when their preferred political party will be voted to power.
Exactly my point, one love bro.
Cheers and have a great day.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Yyeske(m): 7:55am On Jun 17, 2019
Ikechu12:
That Yyeske dude is Yoruba pretending to be Igbo from Anambra like most of them on this forum pretending to be igbo. Don't ever expect anything sensible from that coward
See this Somali Jew commenting here
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsdarkside(m): 8:01am On Jun 17, 2019
Yyeske:
See this Somali Jew commenting here
this is crazy....

i already communicated alot with you,and i know you are igbo....

its alright....i dont want to offend you....
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by mbos: 2:25pm On Jun 17, 2019
BuhariAdvocate:
Use your brain fighting terrorist is different from civil war .terrorist operate based on information,if another civil war occur again we will close our borders and send those who are not from our region to their region so they can help their people fighting federal government.
but the so called terrorist has done more harm than the civil war,,,,be it herdsmen, bandits or boko haram.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by tsfisheriesm: 2:35pm On Jun 17, 2019
etrouble:
Bring it on Igbos. Start another war and give the Nigerian Army life specimen for shooting practice.

Over three million of you were used for pepper soup and suya and more millions of your mothers, sisters, aunties, daughters and nieces were used as sex slaves were you declared war against the Federal Republic in 1967, yet you are still shouting and threatening war, go on, do it, pick up arms and ammunition against the Federal Republic again and let's settle this once and for all.

The Fulanis will be happy to use the Biafra land for Cattle Colony and Gracing while Yorubas will use the remaining for Cocoa Farm.
Mumu no good on.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by NkayStory(f): 3:00pm On Jun 17, 2019
TooNoisy:
From 2011 - 2015, the SW and NE had no representation in the top 6 positions. The SE had 2 - Deputy Senate President and Deputy Speaker, but there was no talk of civil war. Now the SE has no representation and they are talking of civil war.

You guys keep hating on everyone else, thinking you can do it all alone yet when you lose you start screaming.

Please don't blame the North. Atiku (a northerner) chose Obi as his running mate but lost. If Atiku won I am sure you wouldn't be screaming. Move on already and better luck next time.
No problem...just go and form your Oduduwa or Arewa republic in peace and leave SE out of your nonsense Nigeria..

Period!
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by NkayStory(f): 3:08pm On Jun 17, 2019
Guestlander:
The National Democratic Coalition (NADECO), a platform of distinguished Nigerians committed to securing and protecting democracy in Nigeria, met at the weekend in Lagos "to rise and defend democracy in our dear country." Below is the statement issued at the end of the meeting attended by chieftains such as Dr. Amos Akingba, Chiefs Ayo Opadokun and Ayo Adebanjo and many others including the group's Chairman, Rear Admiral Ndubuisi Kanu:

The events in the Southeast and in particular, Abia State, which was invaded with a large contingent of the soldiers amount to an unconstitutional and gradual takeover of power by the military.

On Sunday September 10 2017, the Nigerian Armed Forces invaded Southeast Nigeria, and in particular Abia State with a large contingent of soldiers, armored tanks and other military paraphernalia. In Abia State, the soldiers' invaded communities, tortured civilian population, over-awed the constitutionally elected governor and civil institutions of the state, and declared the Independent People of Biafra (IPOB) a terrorist organisation, in defiance of the judgment of the Federal High Court. All of these actions are unconstitutional and represent an illegal take-over of the functions of the National Assembly, the Abia State House of Assembly and the legal authorities.

The Army High Command has announced further that the "Operation Python Dance" will be a regular event and that another similar activity named "Operation Crocodile Smile" will be carried out in the South South and Southwest.

The actions of the Military, we restate are inconsistent with the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and may be the beginning, if not checked, of the unwitting or witting subversion of democracy in Nigeria.

We therefore call for an urgent action by Nigerians to see to it that we put a stop to this gradual return to military rule. All lovers of democracy in Nigeria need to stand up and raise their voices against this retrogressive political development in our country.

NADECO has long affirmed that the way to restore justice, equity and fair play to our polity is to return to True Federalism. It is rather unfortunate that some political actors are trying to confuse Nigerians regarding the true meaning of federalism. This effort to misinform, especially by some political parties, is a dangerous play and deceitful ploy.

The 1959 and the 1963 Federal and Regional constitutions of Nigeria described essentially what True Federalism is. For emphasis may we remind us what true federalism means:

- Independent federating units come together to form a federation.

- These federating units cede some of their powers and responsibilities to the central government.

- The federating units provide the resources to run the services ceded to the central government.

- The federating units maintain their autonomy to run their affairs without let or hindrance, outside those services or responsibilities they have collectively transferred to a central government.

That is true federalism in short. But the problem with Nigeria, and what is causing all the agitations and instability, is that we have an inverted federation, which the military converted Nigeria to.

Here, it is now the Central Government (Federal) that is creating the federating units, they now collect all the resources and decide what to give to the federating units; they take all the powers and cede what they like to the so-called federating units. This is the problem.

All the cry for restructuring is simply to restore the Nigeria Federation to a proper federation. Why should this offend some people to the extent that they are now using every method including military incursion to prevent it?

Attention of all is here drawn to the undeniable fact that to date, No, repeat No, political leader in/of the so-called North has done as much as the Sardauna; no political leader in/of the so-called East has done more than Michael Okpara; and no political leader in and of the West (mid-West inclusive) has done as much or more than Chief Obafemi Awolowo. If any "political leader" has, let him or her rise and say so. Why was, why is that so? It is indisputably obvious that the structure (True Federalism) they were operating was a big, indeed the major foundational and contributory factor.

It is clear to us that unless Nigerians fully understand and address what is at stake, those who benefit from the continued instability of Nigeria will continue to create confusion and delay Nigeria from achieving its manifest destiny.

NADECO, a platform constructed by distinguished Nigerians, former Nigerian Public Office Holders, leaders of ethnic nationalities, civil society organisations, labour unions, professional and business leaders, youth and women among others is disturbed by the current seeming attempts by partisan political operators and others tending to confuse the Nigerian public and particularly our young people about the clear and unambiguous meaning of federalism, which universally represents a system of government whereby there is a distribution of power particularly between a central government and the constituent units wherever it is practised as opposed to centrist/unitary government.

Nigerian Independent Constitutional Arrangement was a Federal System in 1960. Federalism as a term had been more than sufficiently and critically explained and understood by peoples of Nigerians through the strategic advocacy of NADECO, its various affiliate bodies and activists in various fora since 1994.

The word "True" came into our national narratives partly as a result of the annulment of June 12, 1993 election that was won by Basorun MKO Abiola, and whereby the sectional politicians in military uniform led by Gen. Ibrahim Babangida and Gen. Sani Abacha got him, MKO arrested for claiming his just mandate, detained him, humiliated him, and eventually got him killed.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201709260377.html

Good morning to Ohaneze. When the people in NADECO started the restructuring chorus, Ohaneze was silent. Some even tried to color it a Yoruba agenda.
Blablabla...We do not owe hou zilch neither will we be unequally yoked with you horubas and hausas

Morre and more Igbos are seeing the need for seperation from you folks, by any means necessary even the ones who were not so keen before....

It is a matter of time,just watch.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by NkayStory(f): 3:21pm On Jun 17, 2019
Iamgrey5:
In 2011

Igbos had

Deputy senate and deputy speaker position.

Nnamdi Kanu was caught on a video recording in London protesting for the unity of Nigeria.

At that time, the North West also had two leadership positions, while the Southwest and Norheast were greatly marginalized.

Funny Jonathan and PDP scored a very low percentage of votes from the same Northwest region during the subsequent elections. cheesy


In 2019, Igbos don't have any key positions in Nigeria. The north east and Southwest now have two spots each in the top position in Nigeria

Surprisingly, Igbos who are one of the major beneficiary of the 2011 regime are either talking about a war or an independent utopian country.


Isn't the world wonderful. grin
No need for long boring stories....just go form your odua or arewa country in peace.

We are sick and tired of sharing one country with you yorubas and awusas and would do something urgent about it sooner or later..
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by NkayStory(f): 4:00pm On Jun 17, 2019
Naajjii:
Go and have your Biafra nobody is holding you. You called The president names , he his jibril from sudan and all that and worked against him. Now you are complaining. Are you the only tribe in Nigeria? Alot of tribes don't even have a single appointment in this government.
You people will have to wait till next election and behave properly otherwise you get your Biafra which will be the best option for you.
He is still jubril of sudan,we are still calling him names,will never regret not voting for him and we will still demand our stake in this useless country or we wreck it..It is up to you.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by NkayStory(f): 4:06pm On Jun 17, 2019
legitnow:
He stated the fact there in plain English.


2019 is not 1960s.


Buhari has a reputation as a brutal dictator, and Biafra file is open at the UN/ICC.


NO US support with Trump and we have Israel watching from the sky like an Eagle.


Without Igbo political elite, getting in the way, all hell will all but certainly break lose.


Note Igbo political elite played a major role to tame Kanu.


These Igbo political elite, are the people Buhari want to marginalise, thinking he is marginalising Igbos that are already fixated on Biafra, big mistake.
You are so right my brother..so right..

The saving grace of these 'one nigeria" iddiotss are the Igbo political elites whom buhari is stuppiddly alienating..

E go do afonjas and ndi awusa like film-trick soon.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by Guestlander: 6:29pm On Jun 17, 2019
NkayStory:
Blablabla...We do not owe hou zilch neither will we be unequally yoked with you horubas and hausas

Morre and more Igbos are seeing the need for seperation from you folks, by any means necessary even the ones who were not so keen before....

It is a matter of time,just watch.
Hurry up and see how much you are missed.
Re: Beware Of Another Civil War – Ohanaeze Ndigbo Warns Nigerians by NkayStory(f): 7:12pm On Jun 17, 2019
Guestlander:
Hurry up and see how much you are missed.
Good one..stuff your nonsense 'June 12' advise were the sun does not shine going forward...Your epistles were meaningless
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