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People are leaving homosexual and lesbian lifestyles behind,

Don't be deceived;

Do People Change from Homosexuality? Hundreds of Stories of Hope and Transformation (Part I)

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sexuality/freedom-from-homosexuality/do-people-change-from-homosexuality-hundreds-of-stories-of-hope-and-transformation-part-1

http://www.bridgingthegapsministries.org/christianity-today-article/

I'm patiently waiting for someone to debunk all these testimonies as lies...

OkCornel:
People are leaving homosexual and lesbian lifestyles behind,

Don't be deceived;

Do People Change from Homosexuality? Hundreds of Stories of Hope and Transformation (Part I)

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sexuality/freedom-from-homosexuality/do-people-change-from-homosexuality-hundreds-of-stories-of-hope-and-transformation-part-1

http://www.bridgingthegapsministries.org/christianity-today-article/

I'm patiently waiting for someone to debunk all these testimonies as lies...

First of all, I want to thank God for the gift of life to each and everyone of us that has read every single post on this thread and have also read all the immediate above by O.kCornel, even though it is a derailment of some sort. Fyi, I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

So, I was reading each and everything in that immediate above O.kCornel post and then a rat that has been disturbing us in the house, came to join me in reading it. It became emotional as it was reading alongside me and began starting with misty eyes before crying, it cried with water streaming down its face, then it snugged closer to me, held me tight and started to hug me. I reciprocate and so hugged it back. Then it said, "MuttleyLaff, wow cool post, life changing post, your life will never be the same this post just changed my life. Something must keel a man and a rat. I won't disturb you anymore MuttleyLaff."

MuttleyLaff:
First of all, I want to thank God for the gift of life to each and everyone of us that has read every single post on this thread and have also read all the immediate above by O.kCornel, even though it is a derailment of some sort. Fyi, I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

So, I was reading each and everything in that immediate above O.kCornel post and then a rat that has been disturbing us in the house, came to join me in reading it. It became emotional as it was reading alongside me and began starting with misty eyes before crying, it cried with water streaming down its face, then it snugged closer to me, held me tight and started to hug me. I reciprocate and so hugged it back. Then it said, "MuttleyLaff, wow cool post, life changing post, your life will never be the same this post just changed my life. Something must keel a man and a rat. I won't disturb you anymore MuttleyLaff."

Muttley had a life changing discussion with a rat...

Nice stuff you must be smoking there...

Still no answers to my questions...nor any refutation to the testimonies above...

OkCornel:
Muttley had a life changing discussion with a rat...

Nice stuff you must be smoking there...

Yup, you should try it too

MuttleyLaff:
Yup, you should try it too

Lol... no thanks...

MuttleyLaff:
Nobody is. Nobody is interested in tithing, not me at least. My point has been made, if anyone likes let them drag it on as if we are talking of tithes.

You must have just woken up to know about veering off track of the thread's subject title heading. Upon all the veering off track you guys have been doing and that I hadn't minded but still accommodated youse.

Lol. You opened a thread to sell lies from GayChristians101 website. we stand with scriptures not people who dodge the Act but try to swam the whole things with terms.

So, far I have dropped the same questions in two different threads, yet you ignore them?

OkCornel:
Lol... no thanks...

All right, suit yourself but don't pretend you would have done any better and besides, you dont know what you're missing.

MuttleyLaff:
Trust TV01 to want to pull and put a spin on this one, it's hilarious. Well wait nau, let me come on proper in an hour to two time. Of course, they wallowed in sexual immorality, in the sense of, with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera, but the "gone after strange flesh" occurred after their death sentence or destruction was decided. Jesus even when at Matthew 10:14-15, He mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, He did so, only at the opportunity to highlight the importance of friendliness, being welcoming and hospitable, just like Ezekiel said, were Sodom and Gomorrah's problems.

TV01, Sodom and Gomorrah only went after strange flesh after they were doomed to be destroyed, not and never before. Read your Bible correctly and properly please. You out of all people, chau!.

@Bolded.
These are the kind of things you say that when pursuit after, you get tight up in robes.

What you are saying here in essence is that, Sodom and Gomorrah were not into homosexual practice until God determined to destroy them? In other words, their actions that night was their first attempt as a protest against God?

If your answer is Yes, then, they knew that God hated homosexuality hence did it to spite Him?

How did they Know about the impending destruction?

Were they like Nineveh warned but remained obstinate?

Who was sent to inform them, because the Bible didn't mention that the people of Sodom were warned.

Be-that-as-it-may, the Sodomites and Gomorrahites went after Strange flesh full force in protest against God warning, does this not tell you that they knew that homosexuality was a grave wickedness and a sin against God?

Shepherd00:
@Bolded.
These are the kind of things you say that when pursuit after, you get tight up in robes.

What you are saying here in essence is that, Sodom and Gomorrah were not into homosexual practice until God determined to destroy them? In other words, their actions that night was their first attempt as a protest against God?

If your answer is Yes, then, they knew that God hated homosexuality hence did it to spite Him?

How did they Know about the impending destruction?

Were they like Nineveh warned but remained obstinate?

Who was sent to inform them, because the Bible didn't mention that the people of Sodom were warned.

Be-that-as-it-may, the Sodomites and Gomorrahites went after Strange flesh full force in protest against God warning, does this not tell you that they knew that homosexuality was a grave wickedness and a sin against God?

Thank you! sir

I've not been chanced to reply, but those are exactly the right questions to that inordinate stretching and warping of the biblical narrative. I shook my head so tey. I could scarce believe what I was reading

Some of MuttleyLaffs claims are a cause for real consternation. A clear sign that this is about forcing gayhomosex into the Christian culture at all costs and nothing to do with Christian truth. . Sackcloth and ashes with great lamentation sef .


TV

TV01:
Thank you! sir

I've not been chanced to reply, but those are exactly the right questions to that inordinate stretching and warping of the biblical narrative. I shook my head so tey. I could scarce believe what I was reading

Some of MuttleyLaffs claims are a cause for real consternation. A clear sign that this is about forcing gayhomosex into the Christian culture at all costs and nothing to do with Christian truth. . Sackcloth and ashes with great lamentation sef .


TV

To think that he even quoted Matt 10:14-15 which has no bearing with the issue at hand. SMH.

Shepherd00:
So this thread ends here? MuttleyLaff, the only thing I saw you trying to do was to use terms like [b]porneia , arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos to distract people from the ACT of homosexuality.

If the words were changed, did the act change?

Oh Well! I may just be talking to myself here, as you have disappeared from your own thread.

Shepherd00:
Why do leave the bone of the issue to dwell on terms?

Muttleylaff, let's talk about 'The Act of men having sex with fellow men'. Whether at home or in pagan temples.

You keep saying Paul's usage of the term is related to the temple Prostitution.

I want us to concentrate on the Act for a while not the terms or the languages used to describe the term.

Shepherd00:
Lol. You opened a thread to sell lies from GayChristians101 website. we stand with scriptures not people who dodge the Act but try to swam the whole things with terms.

So, far I have dropped the same questions in two different threads, yet you ignore them?

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MuttleyLaff:
Trust TV01 to want to pull and put a spin on this one, it's hilarious. Well wait nau, let me come on proper in an hour to two time. Of course, they wallowed in sexual immorality, in the sense of, with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera, but the "gone after strange flesh" occurred after their death sentence or destruction was decided. Jesus even when at Matthew 10:14-15, He mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, He did so, only at the opportunity to highlight the importance of friendliness, being welcoming and hospitable, just like Ezekiel said, were Sodom and Gomorrah's problems.

TV01, Sodom and Gomorrah only went after strange flesh after they were doomed to be destroyed, not and never before. Read your Bible correctly and properly please. You out of all people, chau!.

Shepherd00:
@Bolded.
These are the kind of things you say that when pursuit after, you get tight up in robes.

What you are saying here in essence is that, Sodom and Gomorrah were not into homosexual practice until God determined to destroy them? In other words, their actions that night was their first attempt as a protest against God?

If your answer is Yes, then, they knew that God hated homosexuality hence did it to spite Him?

How did they Know about the impending destruction?

Were they like Nineveh warned but remained obstinate?

Who was sent to inform them, because the Bible didn't mention that the people of Sodom were warned.

Be-that-as-it-may, the Sodomites and Gomorrahites went after Strange flesh full force in protest against God warning, does this not tell you

Shepherd00 will you already just calm down please. I am going to do this in short bursts because I've realised that you dont like reading long posts. You always gung-ho reply to all my post's comments, especially any that borders on the subject or issue of homosexuality, SSA people or SSA acts, you especially do this , I know from lack of understanding, due from your level of awareness and the perception from where or how you see things. Awareness, is a mental and spiritual thing, but you respond and "attack" my posts on this subject, with unnecessary and additional emotional, irrational, not based on any good reasons, false religious flavorings.

Shepherd00, a drowning man will clutch at any available straw in sight. You Shepherd00, when, out of control and not getting things together, like to begin and start clutching at straws.

Case in point #1, at 7:33pm On June 17, 2019, here is you typing: "This is the homosexual site where you copy and paste from. By all mean they try to pervert the Word of God to suit them. Rev. M.Turner is a gay pastor whose gay partner is Bill and has been together for 37yrs and got recently married."

I responded to "Case in point #1" and you, with: "Shepherd00, have you got evidence or proof of me copying the contents from that site or any other sites for that matter. Be careful how you slander a moG. I've warned you before, please take heed of the warning, I beg you. I wont say more than that."

Case in point #2, at 3:15pm On Jun 18, you typed, accusing me of plagiarism again, saying I've been presenting someone else's work and ideas as my own, that I've been stealing another author's publication(s):"Pls MuttleyLaff don't lie. When you crashed into my thread claiming God was not against homosexuality, I asked you for scriptural backings to your claims. You threw in what you copied from 'www.gaychristians101. The 'Loving, faithful, consensual SSR,s. That led us to VBCampaign's thread where TV01 demanded the same from you."

Case point#3, today almost two hours ago at 8:49pm, you laughed and thrice reinforced a lie to slander me again by typing: "You opened a thread to sell lies from GayChristians101 website. We stand with scriptures not people who dodge the Act but try to swam the whole things with terms."

Shepherd00, for the record, and I reiterate, I dont know who Rev. M.Turner is, I have never, before until you mentioned him, heard of him and I have never, even up till now, ever visited his website.

Number two for the record, I only visited GayChristians101 website, just after elated177 mentioned and pasted the website, for all to see and typed at 8:51pm On May 27 2019, this about me:The research that babbler has been babbling all over the place are the heresies he lifted from that heretical site, gaychristain101. After the elated177 mention of the site and upon visiting it, I found the site and its content to be a coincidence and remarkable that great minds think alike, whereas "average & small" minds unfortunately all along and together, have been too, on this thread

Now I'll let you on why I was hiatus during the recent brouhaha and that's what it was, just as TV01 so perfectly put it, really was a noisy and overexcited activities thing going on. I discovered and its from learned observations, that if you keep your mouth shut, be quiet and still, people soon will show their true colors unintentionally, they begin to feel freer and freer to tell anything, begin to misyarn, begin to talk rubbish, talk trash, talk wrong things and become anxious to show themselves up.

I wanted to see true colours of posters, so far commenting on this thread, so I just went silent, waiting in the background, watching behind curtains and paying attention to every single noise made. It paid off, as I got to see the true colors of everyone, each exposed themselves for who they really are, fakes and real ones, good at being fakes too revealed themselves.

It is funny and bizarre that lots of posters are taking a ride with me in this my limo, but what I really want, are posters to deconstruct with me, not those asking me vacuous and off the beaten path questions

I have low tolerance for hypocrites like O.kCornel because when a.lBHAGDADI asks O.kCornel to show him Bible verse of God explicitly disapproving tithe, O.kCornel can’t and refuses to, so I find it hilarious how O.kCornel is now asking for Bible verse of God explicitly approving SSA relationship from me. It is downright comical O.kCornel can’t see what a hypocrite he O.kCornel is, for him, of all people, having the audacity to ask that off the beaten path question and try to use that type of line of questioning, with me, especially when unlike me, is unable to ever oblige a.lBHAGDADI. I have said it many times, that even though, the question is easily responded to many times over, I will not cross that bridge, before I myself come to it, but it just falls on deaf ears.

Hypocrite(s) is more dangerous than a liar and dishonest person, a dishonest person deceives and cheat, but a hypocrite betrays and swindles.
Sincerity is an openness of heart, it is found in very few people. What an insincere individual of a person O.kCornel is. I am sorry, I had him mistaken.

Hypocrisy is the mother of all evil. Sexual orientation discrimination and homophobia are still her favourite children. Jesus Christ hated the hypocrites and warned against hypocrisy. He, in Matthew 23:13-35, "cursed" hypocrites seven times. Mtcheew. I pray the "curse" wont be any poster on this thread portion's.

Fyi, as previously stated I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

This post seems to be ending up going to be too long for your liking Shepherd00, so I'll pause here to continue on another post, as I have read yet another of your typical shooting from the hip comments, this latest one, is you, responding to TV01 comment, and at which you typed: "To think that he even quoted Matt 10:14-15 which has no bearing with the issue at hand. SMH." but my brother, you that if I should start to continue to type, this post no go end ooo and you no go fit read am to the end finish.

Shepherd00:
So this thread ends here? MuttleyLaff, the only thing I saw you trying to do was to use terms like porneia , arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos to distract people from the ACT of homosexuality.

If the words were changed, did the act change?

Oh Well! I may just be talking to myself here, as you have disappeared from your own thread.

Shepherd00, when the Bible is talking of adultery, fornication, incest, polygamy or whatnot it isnt talking against the ACT of sexual intercourse, nor is it distracting anyone from the ACT of sexual intercourse. In the same manner Shepherd00, porneia, arsenokoites , and malakoi/malakos isnt talking of the act of homosexuality per se, but is touching and talking of the abuse of the act, like the cruelty or violence of the act, like using the act to bad effect, for a bad reason, purpose or misuse to cheat, be unfaithful, etcetera

Shepherd00, porneia has to do with prostituing, arsenokoites has to do with prostituing, as well as, sleeping around, having casual sex and/or having multiple partners, and as for malakoi/malakos, I have previously said that one of the original meanings of "malakoi/malakos" in the first century was, it being an effeminate man who pretties himself with daily shaving of the face in the Greek manner, using makeup, hair coloring, putting on jewelleries and fancy clothing to attract male & female customer with whom to have sex.

Click here for or to see: clip idea of who and what a "malakoi/malakos" looks like
Shepherd00, about this same malakoi/malakos, I also previously gave the above instagram link. It shows the nomadic Wodaabe community belonging to the Fulani ethnic group in Naija, with make-up on, though they are not into temple ritual sex etcetera, I did say that, India is the last bastion of where this temple ritual sex with temple male prostitutes cum malakoi/malakos etcetera practised by the Canaanites in Leviticus times and by the heathen gentiles in Paul's Rome and Corinth times, is to date, still done in the 21st century. They are not called "arsenokoites" or sodomites in India, but are called by another word vernacular native to their way of speaking or particular to that area's lingo

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MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, when the Bible is talking of adultery, fornication, incest, polygamy or whatnot it isnt talking against the ACT of sexual intercourse, nor is it distracting anyone from the ACT of sexual intercourse.

The Bible is very clear on those sins, just like it is on homosexuality. Besides, no fornicator, adulterer, prostitute, incestuous, or polygamist is out there screaming that God created them with those tendencies. They are not rummaging through the Holy Rid with spyglasses looking for scriptures that remotely hints that their sins could be put on God. I see only homosexuals.

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, porneia has to do with prostituing, arsenokoites has to do with sleeping around, having casual sex and/or having multiple partners, and as for malakoi/malakos, I have previously said that one of the original meanings of "malakoi/malakos" in the first century was, it being an effeminate man who pretties himself with daily shaving of the face in the Greek manner, using makeup, hair coloring, putting on jewelleries and fancy clothing to attract male & female customer [/b]with whom to have sex.

You added 'And female customers, for good measure, since you know that no woman who seeks to sleep with a man will be attracted to a male dressed as a female. You can't bring yourself to say that these men dress this way to attract homosexual men abi? Well, that is what they were, men who are out to have other men bend them over.

DISGUSTING.

MuttleyLaff:
b][url=picture idea of who and what a malakoi/malakos looks like]https://www.instagram.com/p/By0iFA6goIQ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet[/url][/b]
Shepherd00, about this same malakoi/malakos, I gave the above instagram link, it shows the nomadic Wodaabe community belonging to the Fulani ethnic group with make-up on, though they are not into temple ritual sex etcetera, I did say that, India is the last bastion of where this temple ritual sex with temple male prostitutes cum malakoi/malakos etcetera practised by the Canaanites in Leviticus times and by the heathen gentiles in Paul's Rome and Corinth times, is to date, still done in the 21st century. They are not called "arsenokoites" or sodomites in India but are called by another word
vernacular to that area

What am I to do with all these?

Can we call a spade, a spade and not a gardening tool for once?

MuttleyLaff. Men who have sex with other men are called what?
You keep talking about the location where these things are done, but I'm asking you the name of the Act.

The Act mentioned in Genesis 19 and Judges 19 where men attempted to have sex with other men, is called what?


Give THAT ACT A MAN.

Shepherd00:
The Bible is very clear on those sins, just like it is on homosexuality. Besides, no fornicator, adulterer, prostitute, incestuous, or polygamist is out there screaming that God created them with those tendencies. They are not rummaging through the Holy Rid with spyglasses looking for scriptures that remotely hints that their sins could be put on God. I see only homosexuals.

I havent finished typing responding to all your outstanding questions nau brother, but if you want us to park here, no problem.

Exactly the point Shepherdoo, they cant, because the Bible like you succintly put is CLEAR on those sins, unlike homosexuality, which the Bible never said anything about committed, faithful, caring, kind, love until death do part SSA relationships being wrong, bad or evil. It is a lie, SSA persons arent looking through the Holy Rid with spyglasses looking for scriptures that remotely hints that their sins, because they already know no such scriptures exists. Suck it up man, give it a rest biko.

If it is adult consenting, as in, everyone is of age, its a committed, faithful, caring, kind, love until death do part SSA relationship and doesn’t involve a minor, kids or an animal, then God has no problem with it.

Shepherd00:
You added 'And female customers, for good measure, since you know that no woman who seeks to sleep with a man will be attracted to a male dressed as a female. You can't bring yourself to say that these men dress this way to attract homosexual men abi? Well, that is what they were, men who are out to have other men bend them over.

SMH, omo, you are so-so green and naive. Nwanne their services are for both male and female patrons, this is what transpired in Rome and Corith. In today's modern times, it is happening in India.

Shepherd00:
DISGUSTING

You might be the first to tell me because no one, not even bigshots, like TV01, elated177, jesusjnr, Ranchhoddas, ThothHermes, shadeyinka, alBHAGDADI, ujnwachukwu, solite3, bloodofthelamb, OLAADEGBU, Bejusttoall have been able to muster courage to tell me what specifically is disgusting about and in a committed, faithful, caring, kind, love until death do part SSA relationships

Shepherd00:
What am I to do with all these?

Its a fyi, an instagram video clip idea of who and what a "malakoi/malakos" looks like, when they are prettied up with powder on face and jewelries etcetera on. Are they scaring looking to you, is that why you ask

Shepherd00:
Can we call a spade, a spade and not a gardening tool for once?

My sentiment too, lets not call a spade a fork anymore

Shepherd00:
MuttleyLaff. Men who have sex with other men are called what?

They are called SSA persons

Shepherd00:
You keep talking about the location where these things are done, but I'm asking you the name of the Act.

It depends Shepherd00, it could be an act involving prostituting, cheating, lying, sleeping around, hurting someone, forcibly having carnal knowledge with someone against their will, having carnal knowledge without consent, the list goes on.

Shepherd00:
The Act mentioned in Genesis 19 and Judges 19 where men attempted to have sex with other men, is called what?

Genesis 19 is attempted gang rape of men act and Judges 19 is attempted gang rape of a man act

Shepherd00:
Give THAT ACT A MAN.

I dont understand what you mean by this line

MuttleyLaff:
Trust TV01 to want to pull and put a spin on this one, it's hilarious. Well wait nau, let me come on proper in an hour to two time. Of course, they wallowed in sexual immorality, in the sense of, with idolatry, promiscuousity, cheating, sleeping around, infidelity, children abuse, temple prostituting etcetera, but the "gone after strange flesh" occurred after their death sentence or destruction was decided. Jesus even when at Matthew 10:14-15, He mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, He did so, only at the opportunity to highlight the importance of friendliness, being welcoming and hospitable, just like Ezekiel said, were Sodom and Gomorrah's problems.

TV01, Sodom and Gomorrah only went after strange flesh after they were doomed to be destroyed, not and never before. Read your Bible correctly and properly please. You out of all people, chau!.

Shepherd00:
@Bolded.
These are the kind of things you say that when pursuit after, you get tight up in robes.

What you are saying here in essence is that, Sodom and Gomorrah were not into homosexual practice until God determined to destroy them? In other words, their actions that night was their first attempt as a protest against God?

If your answer is Yes, then, they knew that God hated homosexuality hence did it to spite Him?

How did they Know about the impending destruction?

Were they like Nineveh warned but remained obstinate?

Who was sent to inform them, because the Bible didn't mention that the people of Sodom were warned.

Be-that-as-it-may, the Sodomites and Gomorrahites went after Strange flesh full force in protest against God warning, does this not tell you that they knew that homosexuality was a grave wickedness and a sin against God?

I keep telling you, that you are a bible illiterate, you dont properly read your Bible, you dont read it well enough and you hardly brush your Bible up, this is why you are suffering from all these appalling truth decay. Please don't take this the wrong way or take offence, I said all that, humbly with love because if you know Sodom and Gomorrah of Genesis 14, you would accept and agree that it shouldn't need to find itself where it found itself in Genesis 19, to be destroyed, especially after how God earlier, liberated it from the clutches of prolonged cruelty or unjust treatment. SMH, you guys, especially you Shepherd00, I thank God for the gift of grace because sometimes I feel like wringing somebody's...

TV01:
Thank you! sir

I've not been chanced to reply, but those are exactly the right questions to that inordinate stretching and warping of the biblical narrative. I shook my head so tey. I could scarce believe what I was reading

Some of MuttleyLaffs claims are a cause for real consternation. A clear sign that this is about forcing gayhomosex into the Christian culture at all costs and nothing to do with Christian truth. . Sackcloth and ashes with great lamentation sef .


TV

Has anyone put a gun to another's head to become a SSA person? Has anyone reported that he or she has been approched and proselytized to become a SSA person? SMH. Mtchew.

Many posters don’t seem to know this though, but you can read something you disagree with on the Religion forum and easily just move on with your life nau.

Shepherd00:
To think that he even quoted Matt 10:14-15 which has no bearing with the issue at hand. SMH.

Both of you TV01 and Shepherd00 are a case and a half. You both just unneccesarily enjoy sucking up to each other sha. It is an observation, not to be taken as insulting.
Now please explain to me what according to your understanding what strange flesh specifically means or meant in that passage, will you, hmmm?

I'll wait for who is going to be brave enough to have a first go, before I continue, as Shepherd00 doesnt like long posts

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00 will you already just calm down please. I am going to do this in short bursts because I've realised that you dont like reading long posts. You always gung-ho reply to all my post's comments, especially any that borders on the subject or issue of homosexuality, SSA people or SSA acts, you especially do this , I know from lack of understanding, due from your level of awareness and the perception from where or how you see things. Awareness, is a mental and spiritual thing, but you respond and "attack" my posts on this subject, with unnecessary and additional emotional, irrational, not based on any good reasons, false religious flavorings.

Funny how you'd call my stance 'false religious flavoring', when all you have been doing is present your personal logic gleaned from sin laden gay pastor who by all means tries to pass himself off as a man of God.

You are brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to you. What happened to the Ex-gay people who are no longer gay?

A man who was born male can never become something other than a man. If these people were born Gay, how could they change from being that?

Are they lying that they were?

You have huffed and puffed and tried to replace terms with the Act of homosexuality, but deep down in you, you know the truth.

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, a drowning man will clutch at any available straw in sight. You Shepherd00, when, out of control and not getting things together, like to begin and start clutching at straws.

You mean I clutch at straws by kicking your arse into curbs?

MuttleyLaff, you are a funny man. You opened this thread to expose all the lies held against homosexuality with facts from scriptures, when you were caught with your hand right in the cookie jar trying to steal scriptures, you started lying, saying you never said you were going to present scriptures, neither did you say God permits homosexuality.
All of a sudden you developed amnesia.

Lolzzzzz. Biko puo.

MuttleyLaff:
Case in point #1, at 7:33pm On June 17, 2019, here is you typing: "This is the homosexual site where you copy and paste from. By all mean they try to pervert the Word of God to suit them. Rev. M.Turner is a gay pastor whose gay partner is Bill and has been together for 37yrs and got recently married."
I responded to "Case in point #1" and you, with: "Shepherd00, have you got evidence or proof of me copying the contents from that site or any other sites for that matter. Be careful how you slander a moG. I've warned you before, please take heed of the warning, I beg you. I wont say more than that."

Case in point #2, at 3:15pm On Jun 18, you typed, accusing me of plagiarism again, saying I've been presenting someone else's work and ideas as my own, that I've been stealing another author's publication(s):"Pls MuttleyLaff don't lie. When you crashed into my thread claiming God was not against homosexuality, I asked you for scriptural backings to your claims. You threw in what you copied from 'www.gaychristians101. The 'Loving, faithful, consensual SSR,s. That led us to VBCampaign's thread where TV01 demanded the same from you."

Let folk go and read the links I posted here of what you posted here is not there verbatim.

MuttleyLaff:
Case point#3, today almost two hours ago at 8:49pm, you laughed and trio reinforced a lie to slander me again by typing: "You opened a thread to sell lies from GayChristians101 website. We stand with scriptures not people who dodge the Act but try to swam the whole things with terms."

Shepherd00, for the record, and I reiterate, I dont know who Rev. M.Turner is, I have never, before until you mentioned him, heard of him and I have never, even up till now, ever visited his website.

Number two for the record, I only visited GayChristians101 website, just after elated177 mentioned and pasted the website, for all to see and typed at 8:51pm On May 27 2019, this about me:The research that babbler has been babbling all over the place are the heresies he lifted from that heretical site, gaychristain101. After the elated177 mention of the site and upon visiting it, I found the site and its content to be a coincidence and remarkable that great minds think alike, whereas "average & small" minds unfortunately all along and together, have been too, on this thread

A coincidence indeed. Even the Pastor you mentioned who you claimed also saw that what Paul wrote was not about Homosexuality but temple Prostitution mentioned in that same site was a coincidence also MuttleyLaff?

Na small pikin you think say you dey follow talk?

MuttleyLaff:
Now I'll let you on why I was hiatus during the recent brouhaha and that what it was just as TV01 so perfectly put it, really was a noisy and overexcited activities thing going on. I discovered and its from learned observations, that if you keep your mouth shut, be quiet and still, people soon will show their true colors unintentionally, they begin to feel freer and freer to tell anything, begin to misyarn, begin to talk rubbish, talk trash, talk wrong things and become anxious to show themselves up.
I wanted to see true colours of posters, so far commenting on this thread, so I just went silent, waiting in the background, watching behind curtains and paying attention to every single noise made. It paid off, as I got to see the true colors of everyone, each exposed themselves for who they really are, fakes and real ones, good at being fakes too revealed themselves

Was that the reason you mentioned that character? I had to report him abi Na her, it got banned for peace to return.

And yes, I saw the fake in your friend Albagadi who is full of curses, yet claims he has the spirit of Christ.

That was snaky of you.

MuttleyLaff:
It is funny and bizarre that lots of posters are taking a ride with me in this my limo, but [b]what I really want, are posters to deconstruct with me, not those asking me vacuous and off the beaten path questions[/b]

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You brought a case that you can't win from the Bible stand point and all who could deconstruct with you saw that and stepped back. You cannot win trying to pass homosexuality is godly, it won't work

MuttleyLaff:
I have low tolerance for hypocrites like O.kCornel because when a.lBHAGDADI asks O.kCornel to show him Bible verse of God explicitly disapproving tithe, O.kCornel can’t and refuses to, so I find it hilarious how O.kCornel is now asking for Bible verse of God explicitly approving SSA relationship from me. It is downright comical O.kCornel can’t see what a hypocrite he O.kCornel is, for him, of all people, having the audacity to ask that off the beaten path question and try to use that type of line of questioning, with me, especially when unlike me, is unable to ever oblige a.lBHAGDADI. I have said it many times, that even though, the question is easily responded to many times over, I will not cross that bridge, before I myself come to it, but it just falls on deaf ears

So, you are now Pro-Tithe?

What makes OKcornel a hypocrite?

And, why do you refer to his questions as the 'beaten Path question?'.

because Albagadi took sides with you, you jumped for something you stood or stands against? Isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?

You will not cross the bridge to answer why some people come out of Homosexuality? Why? because you are still in it abi? when you come out it, you'd know what to answer.

MuttleyLaff:
Hypocrite(s) is more dangerous than a liar and dishonest person, a dishonest person deceives and cheat, but a hypocrite betrays and swindles.
Sincerity is an openness of heart, it is found in very few people. What an insincere individual of a person O.kCornel is. I am sorry, I had him mistaken.

Hypocrisy is the mother of all evil. Sexual orientation discrimination and homophobia are still her favourite children. Jesus Christ hated the hypocrites and warned against hypocrisy. He, in Matthew 23:13-35, "cursed" hypocrites seven times. Mtcheew. I pray the "curse" wont be any poster on this thread portion's.

Fyi, as previously stated I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

Maybe you shd point out this hypocrisy you hammer at here. What are his acts of hypocrisy?

All the talk here is very unnecessary. My question is yet to be touched.

Two men having sex, that act is called what?

MuttleyLaff:
This post seems to be ending up going to be too long for your liking Shepherd00, so I'll pause here to continue on another post, as I have read yet another of your typical shooting from the hip comments, this latest one, is you, responding to TV01 comment, and at which you typed: "To think that he even quoted Matt 10:14-15 which has no bearing with the issue at hand. SMH." but my brother, you that if I should start to continue to type, this post no go end ooo and you no go fit read am to the end finish.

How on earth does what Christ said there connects with the issue at hand?

Pls, tell me what you call the act of two men having sex, since it's not homosexuality.

MuttleyLaff:
First of all, I want to thank God for the gift of life to each and everyone of us that has read every single post on this thread and have also read all the immediate above by O.kCornel, even though it is a derailment of some sort. Fyi, I am using "O.kCornel", because I dont want to give him notice formally or officially, of this comment.

So, I was reading each and everything in that immediate above O.kCornel post and then a rat that has been disturbing us in the house, came to join me in reading it. It became emotional as it was reading alongside me and began starting with misty eyes before crying, it cried with water streaming down its face, then it snugged closer to me, held me tight and started to hug me. I reciprocate and so hugged it back. Then it said, "MuttleyLaff, wow cool post, life changing post, your life will never be the same this post just changed my life. Something must keel a man and a rat. I won't disturb you anymore MuttleyLaff."

But, how does this response relate to OkCornel's post about people leaving homosexuality?

Shepherd00:
But, how does this response relate to O.kCornel's post about people leaving homosexuality?

If you believe you can ask MuttleyLaff to show you in the Bible where God approves SSA relationship, but you don’t want someone like a.lBHAGDADI to ask you O.kCornel, to show him in the Bible where and when God no more approves tithe, then you O.kCornel, are a hypocrite. The hypocrite is the one who says don’t ask me that kind, type or line of question but then goes ahead to ask MuttleyLaff a line of question of similar format. SMH. You can never seem to trust anyone nowadays anymore.

My brother, you see now, if one trick doesnt work, why not pull another from the bag of tricks. He's seen that he has hit a brickwall, as its sunk in that I'll not cross that bridge until I come to it, so he's now licked his wounds and re-strategized with another ploy.

Wasnt it you Shepherd00 who said Rev what-is-his-name again, Turner or something is a christian for 34 years or something, with his lover hmmm? Archbishop Tutu's daughter, that we've talked about is a believer too. It relates with just as, soja come, soja go, barrack still dey.

MuttleyLaff:
If you believe you can ask MuttleyLaff to show you in the Bible where God approves SSA relationship, but you don’t want someone like a.lBHAGDADI to ask you O.kCornel, to show him in the Bible where and when God no more approves tithe, then you O.kCornel, are a hypocrite. The hypocrite is the one who says don’t ask me that kind, type or line of question but then goes ahead to ask MuttleyLaff a line of question of similar format. SMH. You can never seem to trust anyone nowadays anymore.

My brother, you see now, if one trick doesnt work, why not pull another rom the bag of tricks. He's seen that he has hit a brickwall, as its sunk in that I'll not cross that bridge until I come to it, so he's now licked his wounds and re-strategized with another ploy.

Wasnt it you Shepherd00 who said Rev what-is-his-name again, Turner or something is a christian for 34 years or something, with his lover hmmm? Archbishop Tutu's daughter, that we've talked about is a believer too. It relates with just as, soja come, soja go, barrack still dey.

Mr. Muttley, you are a certified and shameless liar for claiming I have issues with certain questions al.BHAGDADI asked me on tithing...

I've said it time and over again on this thread and all over nairaland pro-tithers should show us where God demanded for money as tithe both in the old or new testament! OR where and when the early Christians (especially of non-Jewish origin) practiced tithing... whenever they ask for where God or Jesus abolished tithing...

Repeat this lie and I'll bring those threads to expose your lies here...


For you of all people to hide under tithing as an excuse is disgustingly pathetic...

Later you'll lie again and say you're not raising tithing issues on this thread...

The same way I've asked you questions on this thread is the same way I've also asked al.BHAGDADI questions, but you've always brought up diversions like this to dodge those questions...

There's no hiding place for you on this matter...

OkCornel:
Mr. Muttley, you are a certified and shameless liar for claiming I have issues with certain questions al.BHAGDADI asked me on tithing...

I've said it time and over again on this thread and all over nairaland pro-tithers should show us where God demanded for money as tithe both in the old or new testament! OR where and when the early Christians (especially of non-Jewish origin) practiced tithing... whenever they ask for where God or Jesus abolished tithing...

Repeat this lie and I'll bring those threads to expose your lies here...


For you of all people to hide under tithing as an excuse is disgustingly pathetic...

Later you'll lie again and say you're not raising tithing issues on this thread...

The same way I've asked you questions on this thread is the same way I've also asked al.BHAGDADI questions, but you've always brought up diversions like this to dodge those questions...

There's no hiding place for you on this matter...

Mr OkCornel, this is no tithing issue, no one is making anything a titithing issue and so stop behaving like a cry-baby, like as if you're hoping for boobs to appear. Shepherd00 brought up this issue up after I aired my mind about it and I've since said the chapter is closed and not to be discussed by me again. So, why are you trying to re-open a closed and ended chapter ern. Move on man, move on with life. Biko ndo, jor. The thing no be fight, I was just saying ni ooo. It's TGIF, so lets thank God its Friday then instead.

Now other thing said, is that, I can turn your measly question on its head, turn the table on you and ask you, with the same type line of questioning that show in the Bible where God disapproved SSA relationship, where God said committed trusting, kind, caring faithful, love that is until death do part SSA relationship is evil, wrong and ba, hmm?

You must be high on "agbo jẹdi jẹdi", if you think, I'll be crossing that bridge before I come to it. I will not cross that bridge, before I myself come to it, just falls on your deaf ears, abi?
#sipstea, not strong coffee like Shepherd00 does

Shepherd00:
Funny how you'd call my stance 'false religious flavoring', when all you have been doing is present your personal logic gleaned from sin laden gay pastor who by all means tries to pass himself off as a man of God.

You still havent learned anything as usual and I am not surprised

Shepherd00:
You are brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to you. What happened to the Ex-gay people who are no longer gay?

I am brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to me because I dont suffer hypocrites gladly, especially the ones like him, who take pride and delight in their hypocrisy

Shepherd00:
A man who was born male can never become something other than a man

They are men of course by gender but have sexual orientations towards or for same sex

Shepherd00:
If these people were born Gay, how could they change from being that?

This is like you asking me how come some lefthanded people born that way, change from that to being righthanded, when it is obvious the reason why they changed

Shepherd00:
Are they lying that they were?

Why should they lie? Tell me nau, hmm?

Shepherd00:
You have huffed and puffed and tried to replace terms with the Act of homosexuality, but deep down in you, you know the truth.

You got that right, I know the real truth and know the facts too but you are more confused than a fart, let loose in a fan-making factory

Shepherd00:
You mean I clutch at straws by kicking your arse into curbs?

You always have been a dreamer. Yup, I know you did in your dreams

Shepherd00:
MuttleyLaff, you are a funny man. You opened this thread to expose all the lies held against homosexuality with facts from scriptures, when you were caught with your hand right in the cookie jar trying to steal scriptures, you started lying, saying you never said you were going to present scriptures, neither did you say God permits homosexuality.
All of a sudden you developed amnesia.
Lolzzzzz. Biko puo.

I like to see the proof and evidence of this another allegation and slander you've become accustomed to dishing out against me

Shepherd00:
Let folk go and read the links I posted here of what you posted here is not there verbatim.

It is verbatim, those are your exact words in green and red, even with time and date stamps too, so can easily be tracked to confirm

Shepherd00:
A coincidence indeed. Even the Pastor you mentioned who you claimed also saw that what Paul wrote was not about Homosexuality but temple Prostitution mentioned in that same site was a coincidence also MuttleyLaff?

Great minds think alike, dont you know that Shepherd00, hmm?
Oh you mean Pastor John MacArthur, the one that bloodofthelamb highly respects and holds in the utmost regard? Oh no, he had no choice, than to change, and so conceded and admitted the context had to do with temple prostitution and SSA acts done under idolatry influences after facing up with reality and the facts that showed and confirmed all this when looked at contextually Shepherd00.

Shepherd00:
Na small pikin you think say you dey follow talk?

[img]https://s3/images/Shepherd00kidPhone.jpg[/img]
Now that you first brought up the matter of small pikin, I wouldnt be surprised if you are, as I doubt if you and especially those other particular ones on this thread can dial this phone shown above. You wouldn’t even know where to start, you and all those 70s/80s/90s babies and millennials. Can you or any of them, dial the phone, even with a padlock on it or dial a number without touching the dial? Nah, I didnt think you or any of the others pikin could. Pikin matter closed as I rest my case.

Shepherd00:
Was that the reason you mentioned that character?

It was my only way to jolt O.kCornel memory and to make himsee the error of his way, with that hypocritical type line of questioning he was trying on me., especially when I knew he never tolerated it nor obliged alBHAGDADI with it.

Shepherd00:
I had to report him abi Na her, it got banned for peace to return.

Stop snitching because where I come from, it's embrassing being a snitch

Shepherd00:
And yes, I saw the fake in your friend Albagadi who is full of curses, yet claims he has the spirit of Christ.

He is true to himself, not being sneaky like our mutual friend O.kCornel

Shepherd00:
That was snaky of you.

No, it wasnt, it was just business as usual and nothing personal to it. Besides, if you know your Bible well enough, you'll know, there is a time to be snaky and be harmless as doves as well whilst being snaky, especially if you're about to be unfairly devoured, so you just fight fire, back with fire and God no go vex.

Shepherd00:
You brought a case that you can't win from the Bible stand point and all who could deconstruct with you saw that and stepped back. You cannot win trying to pass homosexuality is godly, it won't work

Shepherd00, I know a defeated warrior when I see one and as I know myself also, I know my capabilities, I have no need, to fear the result of a hundred battles. I've said it before, but will still repeat it here again. Victorious warriors, like myself, win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

Shepherd00:
So, you are now Pro-Tithe?

This nwanne doesnt know anything. Does one go back to a vomit, huh?

Shepherd00:
What makes O.Kcornel a hypocrite?

That chapter is closed. I am no more going to discuss it

Shepherd00:
And, why do you refer to his questions as the 'beaten Path question?'.

It's exactly what it is

Shepherd00:
because Albagadi took sides with you, you jumped for something you stood or stands against? Isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?

You know, as well as I know he took no sides with me, at least not on the subject discussed on this thread

Shepherd00:
You will not cross the bridge to answer why some people come out of Homosexuality? Why? because you are still in it abi? when you come out it, you'd know what to answer.

Dont make me laugh. Dreamer.

Shepherd00:
Maybe you shd point out this hypocrisy you hammer at here. What are his acts of hypocrisy?

You've got your fingers stuck in your ears, right, abi?

Shepherd00:
All the talk here is very unnecessary. My question is yet to be touched.

Two men having sex, that act is called what?

Now you have your hands covering your eyes or you haven't been reading. I am not surprised, as reading long posts, has always been a challenge for you.

Shepherd00:
How on earth does what Christ said there connects with the issue at hand?

Jesus mentioned hospitality, at His only and ever mention of Sodom and Gomorrah. The city proved they really are and were unfriendly, unwelcoming to strangers, this they even demonstrated when with trying to gang rape beings that to them appeared to be male human beings. I have already talked about how Sodom should have known better not to be maltreating other people, also told how Ezekiel explained what Sodom's sin, over the years, was, so I wont repeat myself here again, and if you hadnt read it, then so be it. Remember what I said in one of my previous posts, about the outcry of people, that rose to heaven and God, hmm?

Shepherd00:
Pls, tell me what you call the act of two men having sex, since it's not homosexuality

For the last time, its called SSA act, and that's not for the lack of a nicer or better word.

Shepherd00:
But, how does this response relate to OkCornel's post about people leaving homosexuality?

#IfYouKnowYouKnow
If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know

MuttleyLaff:
You still havent learned anything as usual and I am not surprised

I am brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to me because I dont suffer hypocrites gladly, especially the ones like him, who take pride and delight in their hypocrisy


They are men of course by gender but have sexual orientations towards or for same sex

This is like you asking me how come some lefthanded people born that way, change from that to being righthanded, when it is obvious the reason why they changed

Why should they lie? Tell me nau, hmm?

And, I asked for his acts of hypocrisy. Are you going to point them out?

Wow MuttleyLaff. you brought in dexterity to compare with the act of homosexuality again? You are unbelievable. God created two workable hands that one is more functional that the other is a non-issue whatsoever.
And, I can't see it being mentioned as detestable or sin by God.
Guy your desperation to hold unto something is wow.

MuttleyLaff:
You got that right, I know the real truth and know the facts too but you are more confused than a fart, let loose in a fan-making factory

When are you going to present these facts? When this thread gets to 100 Pages?
Noise maker.

MuttleyLaff:
You always have been a dreamer. Yup, I know you did in your dreams

I like to see the proof and evidence of this another allegation and slander you've become accustomed to dishing out against me

Why did you leave VBCampaign's thread and mind to this? You made so much noise about the facts or the real truth about homosexuality you had but were changed by Bible translators. But, alas, you ended up presenting logic of homosexual men and women who wanted to eat their cakes and still keep it.
All the scriptures you grabbed at blew on your face, yet you remain obstinate/reprobated in your filth.

MuttleyLaff:
It is verbatim, those are your exact words in green and red, even with time and date stamps too, so can easily be tracked to confirm

MuttleyLaff:
Great minds think alike, dont you know that Shepherd00, hmm?

Wow. Muttleylaff, you are really slow. I expected you be humble enough to admit you read that article, agreed with the presentation and decided to also post it here, instead of trying to lie that the ideas are yours. So much for great mines.

This is not a Christian trait Muttley.

MuttleyLaff:
Oh you mean Pastor John MacArthur, the one that bloodofthelamb highly respects and holds in the utmost regard? Oh no, he had no choice, than to change, and so admitted the context had to do with temple prostitution and SSA acts done under idolatry influences after facing up with reality and the facts that showed and confirmed all this when looked at contextually Shepherd00.

What has bloodofthelamb and who he highly respects to do here? Why not talk about the fact that it is in that same article, the same article you said was a coincidence that both you and the writer wrote the same thing, that Pastor John MacArthor was quoted as saying homosexuality in the Bible was not actually homosexuality, but temple Prostitution?
That was also a coincidence? or you and Pastor MacArthor have a personal correspondence?

MuttleyLaff, you are slimy like a snake. You leave the main point to dwell on trivia with the hope to shade the truth.

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/Shepherd00kidPhone.jpg[/img]
Now that you first brought up the matter of small pikin, I wouldnt be surprised if you are., as I doubt if you and especially those other particular ones on this thread can dial this phone shown above. You wouldn’t even know where to start, you and all those 90s babies and millennials. Can you or any of them, dial the phone, even with a padlock on it or dial a number without touching the dial? Nah, I didnt think youor any could. Pikin matter closed as I rest my case.

And, this is coming from a great mine o. More like a juvenile on drugs. Oh, wait, you are an Indian hemp smoking Christian. I shouldn't be surprised.

MuttleyLaff:
It was my only way to jolt O.kCornel memory and to make himsee the error of his way, with that hypocritical type line of questioning he was trying on me., especially when I knew he never tolerated it nor obliged alBHAGDADI with it.


[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=79530321]Stop snitching because where I come from, it's embrassing being a snitch

In other words, you'd have liked it if she remained and turned this place into a market right?
You are indeed a Christian.

MuttleyLaff:
He is true to himself, not being sneaky like our mutual friend O.kCornel

Unlike you, OKcornel maintains his stance as an anti-tither. But, you who called him hypocrite were anti-tith last time I checked, but here you are on the same bed with a pro-tither Albagadi. Why? because you thought he'd side with you on this issue.

Maintain a stance. Stop switching sides. Only a hypocrite does that, yet you put it on OKcornel.

MuttleyLaff:
No, it wasnt, it was just business as usual and nothing personal to it. Besides, if you know your Bible well enough, you'll know, there is a time to snaky and harmless as doves as well, especially if you're about to be unfairly devoured, you just fight fire, back with fire, God no go vex.

And, here you just admitted to mentioning that character with the sole purpose of It causing confusion here hoping it will derail the thread and release you from the robes strangulating you here.
This is ingenious MuttleyLaff.

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, I know a defeated warrior when I see one and as I know myself also, I know my capabilities, I have no need, to fear the result of a hundred battles. I've said it before, but will still repeat it here again. Victorious warriors, like myself, win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

Braggart. Where did you get this from? Certainly not from the Holy Spirit.
Victorious Warriors like yourself who employ derailment tactics by inviting a sidekick to teargas the thread to theough the place is confusion, to get you off the hook? Yes, you Know a defeated warrior when you see one.

MuttleyLaff:
This nwanne doesnt know anything. Does one go back to a vomit, huh?

That chapter is closed. I am no more going to discuss it

Oh, it's OK to label someone as a hypocrite, but you wouldn't proof any reason for your accusations abi?

People shd just believe he's a hypocrite because you say so?

MuttleyLaff, the only hypocrite I see here is you.

MuttleyLaff:
It's exactly what it is

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=79530321]You know, as well as I know he took no sides with me, at least not on the subject discussed on this thread

You shd attempt answering it and see how the shit will come back splashing on you. lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Dont make me laugh. Dreamer.

I'm dreaming that you'd ever come out of sodomy abi? My bad. enjoy sir.

MuttleyLaff:
You've got your fingers stuck in your ears, right, abi?

No, my ears are quite open. What did he do to warrant you labeling him a hypocrite? You said the topic is closed, in other words, we shd just believe you?

MuttleyLaff:
Now you have your hands covering your eyes or you haven't been reading. I am not surprised, as reading long posts, has always been a challenge for you.

Lolzzzzz. Reading long posts is not a challenge to me. I didn't read your long post on purpose. I had asked you in good faith to react to my post addressing them to me, you agreed, only to turn around and answered everyone who made a post here, and I said I won't read it, because becos I couldn't read it.

MuttleyLaff, you are really living up to your task of misrepresenting issues and people. You may think this is Christian, but it's Satan's act
And, you hadn't answered that question of which you accused me of covering my eyes from.

I asked you that question in this thread, twice, you ignored it. You mentioned me in another thread, I asked it there again, you said we shd come back here, I did. Asking it here was the 4tm I asked it, yet you didn't answer, but you are accusing me of being blind to your answers.

Ingenious MuttleyLaff.

MuttleyLaff:
Jesus mentioned hospitality, at His only and ever mention of Sodom and Gomorrah. The city proved they were unfriendly, unwelcoming to strangers by even trying to gang rape beings that to them appeared to be male human beings. I have already talked about how Sodom should have known better not to be maltreating other people, also told how Ezekiel explained what Sodom's sin, over the years, was, so I wont repeat myself here, if you hadnt read it, so be it.

This, you mentioned in another thread. When I asked you when inhospitable character earned a sentence of death or is referred to as an abomination, detestable, unnatural and vile by God, you went into hibernation. But here you are mentioning it again.

Now, let's look at what and why Jesus mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah is Matt 10.

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

This is rejection of the person of Jesus Christ and the goods news which he is.

He says on the day of judgement the case against these type will be more severe (sifia) than of the sodomites, why? because sodomites didn't have someone warn them against the impending judgement, but these people have the gospel, albeit, reject it.

What is the relationship between what the Lord said here with what the sodomites did?

Now let's see how the Lord handled real inhospitable and unfriendly people.

Luke 9:52-56 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

And when his disciples James and John saw this, ~~~they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?~~~

~But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.~
~~For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them~~. And they went to another village.
This was The Lord's reaction to those lacked character. And, in no where in Scripture are we told that men shd be burnt with Fire for not welcoming others. This is also from a pro-gay website. I had read it before.

But, you'd say you are a great mind who thinks in the line with what they wrote.

MuttleyLaff:
For the last time, its called SSA act, and that's for the lack of a nicer or better word.

#IfYouKnowYouKnow
If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know

In other words, Act done in a Same Sex Relationship abi?
At what point in God's Green earth was this SSR Act instituted? Pls don't tell me they were a minority, because it the Lord's hand is in it, I couldn't have been ignored.

Who do we look up to in the scriptures who did this? I mean amongst God's people. Since, all the ones you mentioned were done by those outside of God's covenanted people. That chapter in Isaiah you talked abt, can we pls see it?

If this SSR was divinely ordained and patterned by Jesus, at least one of his own wld ve been mentioned as an Archetype. Instead, we see those who either didn't marry at all, or were polygamists.

You mentioned that the Lord highly Praised the people in SSR Act above those is Hetero Act. Pls give the scripture for those reading.


Don't forget that, many who are afflicted with this tendencies are secretly reading what we post here, some trying to settled in their minds that it is okay to be Gay, but some ashamed that they are, looking for a way out.

If you can Scripturally proof that God indeed permits, approves and has not odds against SSR, many will be relieved and live peaceful lives. But, so far, all you do here from the beginning of this thread till now, is present human logic and try to pass it as godly, then you are a disappointment to them.


There's no amount of screaming and asserting that there's nothing wrong with a faithful, loving, committed, bla, bla, bal, SSR that will make it right.

So, speak the truth, (which at this point I seriously doubt you know what it is), so that your conflicted audience will find despite.

MuttleyLaff:
Mr OkCornel, this is no tithing issue, no one is making anything a titithing issue and so stop behaving like a cry-baby, like as if you're hoping for boobs to appear. Shepherd00 brought up this issue up after I aired my mind about it and I've since said the chapter is closed and not to be discussed by me again. So, why are you trying to re-open a closed and ended chapter ern. Move on man, move on with life. Biko ndo, jor. The thing no be fight, I was just saying ni ooo. It's TGIF, so lets thank God its Friday then instead.

Now other thing said, is that, I can turn your measly question on its head, turn the table on you and ask you, with the same type line of questioning that show in the Bible where God disapproved SSA relationship, where God said committed trusting, kind, caring faithful, love that is until death do part SSA relationship is evil, wrong and ba, hmm?

You must be high on "agbo jẹdi jẹdi", if you think, I'll be crossing that bridge before I come to it. I will not cross that bridge, before I myself come to it, just falls on your deaf ears, abi?
#sipstea, not strong coffee like Shepherd00 does

Hahahahahahaha. Shey Na you dey buy the strong Coffee for me? You no well.

MuttleyLaff:
If you believe you can ask MuttleyLaff to show you in the Bible where God approves SSA relationship, but you don’t want someone like a.lBHAGDADI to ask you O.kCornel, to show him in the Bible where and when God no more approves tithe, then you O.kCornel, are a hypocrite. The hypocrite is the one who says don’t ask me that kind, type or line of question but then goes ahead to ask MuttleyLaff a line of question of similar format. SMH. You can never seem to trust anyone nowadays anymore.

My brother, you see now, if one trick doesnt work, why not pull another from the bag of tricks. He's seen that he has hit a brickwall, as its sunk in that I'll not cross that bridge until I come to it, so he's now licked his wounds and re-strategized with another ploy.

Wasnt it you Shepherd00 who said Rev what-is-his-name again, Turner or something is a christian for 34 years or something, with his lover hmmm? Archbishop Tutu's daughter, that we've talked about is a believer too. It relates with just as, soja come, soja go, barrack still dey.

It is said that he has been Gay for 34 yrs, and if he has pretended to be a Christian for those yrs, that is his and the business of whom he serves.

Many Satanist are posing as pastors, serving their master from within its no skin off my nose. It doesn't surprise me one bit. Why? Didn't the Lord warn us to look out for them?
They are everywhere and shall be there till the Lord returns. Their fruits evidences who they are.

Tutu's daughter is a believer in who? Yeah right!!!!
You've heard of Thorns and Thistles abi? Yeah, these are those that the Master referred as thus. It is their fruits that reveals who they are.
The Lord cannot say 'Go into the world and Multiply', but you turn around and pour it on a barren ground and clap for yourself saying, I keep my Lords commandments.

We know who believes in Christ's, by their acts of Love and obedience, which translates into keeping his commandments.

If you Love me, keep my Commandments. And the commandment is 'Go into the world and Multiply.

Deceive yourself and talk about surrogacy, you'd be digging your grave deeper.

Like I told you before, Everything Jesus created bears fruits for posterity sake. And the earth was created to make returns. SSR makes no returns to the Universe and to God. Anyone or anything who/that violates that design dies. Ask the Fig Tree. and this other Fig Tree in Luke 9...

C.E.V Luke 13:6-9 Jesus then told them this story: A man had a fig tree growing in his vineyard.

One day he went out to pick some figs, but he didn't find any. So he said to the gardener,

“For three years I have come looking for figs on this tree, and I haven't found any yet. Chop it down! Why should it take up space?”

The gardener answered, “Master, leave it for another year. I'll dig around it and put some manure on it to make it grow.

Maybe it will have figs on it next year. If it doesn't, you can have it cut down.”

This, right here is what awaits the likes of Tutu's daughter and Mr Turner.

Haven received the nourishment from the Lord, yet remain unfruitful. They ought to give something in return, but ..., they chose to be barren. And the Lord says, non shall be barren in his land.

Sir, you can't serve God in disobedience.

Excerpt from here - https://www.thedailybeast.com/gay-open-marriages-need-to-come-out-of-the-closet

In a 2013 column for Slate, Hanna Rosin called non-monogamy the gay community’s “dirty little secret,” citing a study from the ’80s, which showed that up to 82 percent of gay couples had sex with other people. That number sounds about right to me, but here’s the thing: It’s not dirty and it’s hardly a secret, at least if you know where to look.

Monogamish couples are a constant presence on apps like Grindr and Scruff, which allow gay men to connect with other men to chat or hook up. Users commonly describe themselves as “dating,” “in an open relationship,” “partnered,” or “married,” while others set up an account with their partner if they’re looking to play together.

I spoke to one couple that hasn’t let marriage get in the way of their Scruff account. Eric, 34, and Martin, 33, walked down the aisle last October after dating for five years. Like many gay couples, they were initially monogamous, although with “infrequent and informal” exceptions. “Think post-bar bathhouse outings,” Eric explained. But after creating a profile together on Scruff a few years ago, the couple agreed on a set of boundaries. “We only sleep with people together, we have to both communicate with the person to some extent before we meet up, and the guy has to very clearly be attracted to both of us,” Eric said.

Like nearly everyone I spoke to, the pair had few gay friends that were in monogamous relationships, and Martin believes it’s because there are fewer rules and expectations around gay relationships. “I think we don’t have heteronormative templates that we have to subscribe to,” Martin said. “There’s just not that same kind of pressure to be monogamous when you’re gay.”

...urgh!

MuttleyLaff:
I am brazenly walking pass the questions OKcornel presents to me because I dont suffer hypocrites gladly, especially the ones like him, who take pride and delight in their hypocrisy

MuttleyLaff you can lie! Fess up, no answer. OkCornel don land knockout blow


TV

TV01:
Excerpt from here - https://www.thedailybeast.com/gay-open-marriages-need-to-come-out-of-the-closet

In a 2013 column for Slate, Hanna Rosin called non-monogamy the gay community’s “dirty little secret,” citing a study from the ’80s, which showed that up to 82 percent of gay couples had sex with other people. That number sounds about right to me, but here’s the thing: It’s not dirty and it’s hardly a secret, at least if you know where to look.

Monogamish couples are a constant presence on apps like Grindr and Scruff, which allow gay men to connect with other men to chat or hook up. Users commonly describe themselves as “dating,” “in an open relationship,” “partnered,” or “married,” while others set up an account with their partner if they’re looking to play together.

I spoke to one couple that hasn’t let marriage get in the way of their Scruff account. Eric, 34, and Martin, 33, walked down the aisle last October after dating for five years. Like many gay couples, they were initially monogamous, although with “infrequent and informal” exceptions. “Think post-bar bathhouse outings,” Eric explained. But after creating a profile together on Scruff a few years ago, the couple agreed on a set of boundaries. “We only sleep with people together, we have to both communicate with the person to some extent before we meet up, and the guy has to very clearly be attracted to both of us,” Eric said.

Like nearly everyone I spoke to, the pair had few gay friends that were in monogamous relationships, and Martin believes it’s because there are fewer rules and expectations around gay relationships. “I think we don’t have heteronormative templates that we have to subscribe to,” Martin said. “There’s just not that same kind of pressure to be monogamous when you’re gay.”

...urgh!

Look at what TV01, out of frustration and desperation, brought up from searching the dregs and scraping the bottom of the barrel, he even is doing a largely factitious urgh at it.

Conventional wisdom has it that nobody in a faithful, committed, truthful, caring kind, love until death do part relationships wants a cheating partner, wants a partner that sleeps around, wants a lustful and covetous partner, wants an emotionally manipulative partner, wants an abusive, violent or cruel partner, wants a partner with sexual interest in prepubescent children, wants a partner sexually involved with a minor, kids or animal(s). Nobody wants a promiscuous partner TV01, whatever kind of romantic sexual relationship they are in

TV01:
MuttleyLaff you can lie! Fess up, no answer. OkCornel don land knockout blow


TV

When we are done deconstructing the lies and myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union then maybe you can table the alleged lies you accuse me of. There is nothing to confess. It isnt my problem if none of youse, know the Bible well enough to tell it doesnt anywhere in it disapprove of SSA relationship. Nobody is going to spoon feed anyone on this thread, especially not the one who dont deserve being spoon fed. I am not going to provide someone with so much information that they ought have already known from studying and thus showed themselves approved to God and be an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth. Yup, you're right, poor chap landed a knockout blow and knocked himself out

MuttleyLaff:
Look at what TV01, out of frustration and desperation, brought up from searching the dregs and scraping the bottom of the barrel, he even is doing a largely factitious urgh at it.

Conventional wisdom has it that nobody in a faithful, committed, truthful, caring kind, love until death do part relationships wants a cheating partner, wants a partner that sleeps around, wants a lustful and covetous partner, wants an emotionally manipulative partner, wants an abusive, violent or cruel partner, wants a partner with sexual interest in prepubescent children, wants a partner sexually involved with a minor, kids or animal(s). Nobody wants a promiscuous partner TV01, whatever kind of romantic sexual relationship they are in

When we are done deconstructing the lies and myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union then maybe you can table the alleged lies you accuse me of. There is nothing to confess. It isnt my problem if none of youse, know the Bible well enough to tell it doesnt anywhere in it disapprove of SSA relationship. Nobody is going to spoon feed anyone on this thread, especially not the one who dont deserve being spoon fed. I am not going to provide someone with so much information that they ought have already known from studying and thus showed themselves approved to God and be an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth. Yup, you're right, poor chap landed a knockout blow and knocked himself out

You seem dead to me. How can you be this brazen?

Who do you like dis?

Shepherd00:
You seem dead to me. How can you be this brazen?

Who do you like dis?

I've warned you before about your choice of words towards a moG. My God is a vengeance able God, and I wouldn't want you in any way feel His wrath because of you continuing to persist in this your bad behaviour. Be warned again Shepherd00. Clean up.

MuttleyLaff:
I've warned you before about your choice of words towards a moG. My God is a vengeance able God, and I wouldn't want you in any way feel His wrath because of you continuing to persist in this your bad behaviour. Be warned again Shepherd00. Clean up.

I'm shaking with fright.

Shepherd00:
I'm shaking with fright.

You better be. Don't say you werent warned and don't come looking for me to gain assistance against whatever fate befalls you

MuttleyLaff:
Look at what TV01, out of frustration and desperation, brought up from searching the dregs and scraping the bottom of the barrel, he even is doing a largely factitious urgh at it.

Conventional wisdom has it that nobody in a faithful, committed, truthful, caring kind, love until death do part relationships wants a cheating partner, wants a partner that sleeps around, wants a lustful and covetous partner, wants an emotionally manipulative partner, wants an abusive, violent or cruel partner, wants a partner with sexual interest in prepubescent children, wants a partner sexually involved with a minor, kids or animal(s). Nobody wants a promiscuous partner TV01, whatever kind of romantic sexual relationship they are in

When we are done deconstructing the lies and myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union then maybe you can table the alleged lies you accuse me of. There is nothing to confess. It isnt my problem if none of youse, know the Bible well enough to tell it doesnt anywhere in it disapprove of SSA relationship. Nobody is going to spoon feed anyone on this thread, especially not the one who dont deserve being spoon fed. I am not going to provide someone with so much information that they ought have already known from studying and thus showed themselves approved to God and be an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth. Yup, you're right, poor chap landed a knockout blow and knocked himself out

So are you ready to tell us those who confessed and forsook their homosexual and lesbian lifestyle after encountering Jesus are liars?

That their testimonies are lies?

OkCornel:
So are you ready to tell us those who confessed and forsook their homosexual and lesbian lifestyle after encountering Jesus are liars?

That their testimonies are lies?

I am prepared and ready to tell you that to each their own and most especially that Jesus takes you just the way you, so far you are in a romantic, trusting, kind, faithful, caring, not cruel to anyone, mutual love that is till death do part SSA relationship.