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nice write up

oalandAgents2:
Please my Igbo family why is Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB agitating for freedom? Is he not free?

Somebody else mentioned IPOB is seeking a referendum, but did not state who he is seeking that referendum from.

Is it possible to achieve referendum whilst remaining outside of the politics of the country and existing democratic structures?

Good question

Thanks

skyman200:
nice write up

oalandAgents2:
Please my Igbo family why is Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB agitating for freedom? Is he not free?

Somebody else mentioned IPOB is seeking a referendum, but did not state who he is seeking that referendum from.

Is it possible to achieve referendum whilst remaining outside of the politics of the country and existing democratic structures?

ImpossiCANT

oalandAgents2:
Ok

So when Ojukwu declared for Biafra:

He had exhausted diplomatic options.

Ongoing massive Igbo killings all over Nigeria made it urgent decision to make.

He was already a ruler of entire Igboland and had 100% support of the Igbo population.

He was Military chief capable of conducting warfare if necessary.

He had command and control of all Igbo military personnel machinery, weapons and ammunition.

Yet it was not a decision he took lightly, with the urgency created by massacres of our people he still sought and received the approval of our Royal fathers ,elders, statement and heads judiciaries in our region.

sir , but it seems you ended up talking about ojukwu ame nothing about kanu and ipob , as your topic suggested. anyi bu igbo mere ya 67-70

Did I say I have finished?

kanubiafra:
sir , but it seems you ended up talking about ojukwu ame nothing about kanu and ipob , as your topic suggested. anyi bu igbo mere ya 67-70

oalandAgents2:
Please my Igbo family why is Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB agitating for freedom? Is he not free?

Somebody else mentioned IPOB is seeking a referendum, but did not state who he is seeking that referendum from.

Is it possible to achieve referendum whilst remaining outside of the politics of the country and existing democratic structures?

You seem out to discredit kanu and IPoB. But let me keep observing.

Nnia NWODO also cried out on news tabloids that Nigerian politicians are treating IGBOS as a defeated people. Does that not mean something to you?

Anyway, freedom fighting is about breaking free from a failed political system. That's kanu's pursuit.

On your final question, it is possible. The idea is to force our corruption-ridden politicians to listen, adjust and at least, RESTRUCTURE our region for the greater good (but for IPOB, the ultimate agenda of achieving biafra over time)

zibya:
ImpossiCANT

It's possiCAN,..... By pressuring the government of the day to act on referendum in the face of the international community.

Please let us be truthful in our doings and sayings and avoid unnecessary embellishments.

There was NO massacres of Igbos in Lagos and Western Nigeria.

oalandAgents2:
There's never any justifiable reason for taking innocent lives or massacring people. The only point you need to note was massacres were taking place and were on-going.

Referendum from democratic system he chose not to participate in, why would he now expect the federal government to take him seriously?

Furthermore please correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot recall IPOB or Nnamdi ever seeking to get a mandate from the Igbo people to agitate for Biafra on our behalf, or is by force that Igbos must become Biafra?

Federal government knows all this , in short they cannot take him seriously and him himself cannot be serious.

superlightning:
You seem out to discredit kanu and IPoB. But let me keep observing.

Nnia NWODO also cried out on news tabloids that Nigerian politicians are treating IGBOS as a defeated people. Does that not mean something to you?

Anyway, freedom fighting is about breaking free from a failed political system. That's kanu's pursuit.

On your final question, it is possible. The idea is to force our corruption-ridden politicians to listen, adjust and at least, RESTRUCTURE our region for the greater good (but for IPOB, the ultimate agenda of achieving biafra over time)

oalandAgents2:
Here is what I think.
First Iam 55years old and was an infant during the first
Ojukwu led Biafra.
Having since done some research on the Ojukwu led Biafra here is what I learnt:

At the time 30th May 1967 that the Republic of Biafra was declared, the following were the facts on ground:

The Federal Republic of Nigeria of which Igboland was a territory was under the military rule of General Gowon, A Northerner who overthrew the previous military ruler General Ironsi in a bloody coup that assassinated General Ironsi and many other Igbo military officers.

Major General Ojukwu was the military Chief administering the Eastern region of the federal government of Nigeria at the time.

He was fully trained in warfare and I believe had served in military mission in war zone at home and abroad (UN peace keeping).

For most of the 11 months since Gowon had assumed power, a massacre of Igbos had been taking place not only in Northern States but also in Lagos and West. And Gowon had been unwilling or unable to bring these massacres to an end.

Ojukwu had exhausted all diplomatic options available to him in bring the crisis of the killings Igbos all over the country to an end; including sending envoys to meet General Gowon to persuade him to do whatever is necessary to stop Igbo massacres.

A summit with Gowon in Aburi Ghana took place and both of them reached an agreement known as the Aburi Accord, which was a plan to restructure Nigeria into a confederation and take steps to end ethinic tribal violence and killings.

Ojukwu in the face of unending massacres of Igbos had given Gowon's Federal govt an ultimatum by which time the Aburi Accord would begin to be implemented and Igbo killings brought to an end. Gowon seemed on able or unwilling to implement the Aburi Accord.

The Igbo masses were now pressuring Ojukwu to do something to save Igbo lives in the face of continued killings.

Ojukwu consulted Igbo Elders, Traditional rulers , Statemen and Heads of judiciary both current and retired, they gave him the mandate to declare the independent Republic of Biafra on May 30th 1967. I was 3 years old.

Ojukwu had complete backing of 100% of The Igbo population and had command over all existing Igbo military personnel and weapons and ammunition and machinery already in Igboland.

In an emotion- causing part of his speech as he declared the independent Republic of Biafra he addressed those Igbos still running for their lives, telling them to stay strong and to be assured that once they can cross that line in the land they will be safe from massacre.

I am getting emotional now. Will be back.

Ojukwu then remain in the trenches with the Nigerian troops for almost 3 years before Biafra was defeated by Gowon 's Nigerian troops who had the Support from UK , US , Russia (Soviet Union), and of course all ty the other tribal groups of the federation. An estimated 1million Igbo lives were lost a fair proportion of those died of starvation as Nigerian forced closed off off all ports and roads to supply us with food.

Ojukwu went into exile after the war ended and Igbo people returned to the rule of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

I was 6 years old by that time and old enough to understand and remember overwhelming mood of the Igbo people at that time, was relief that our suffering was over and that we had survived the war.

For his leadership Ojukwu remains an irrevocable leader and father in Igbo hearts and on his return from exile in 1983, he urged Igbos to accept Nigeria and work hard get their share of opportunities within federal Nigeria.

Chief Ojukwu died in 2011 age 78 having himself reintegrated into Nigeria democratic system and even sought elected office.

9ix write up...just one thing "Biafra is not all about igbos"..

Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB should tax their members and conduct the referendum without waiting for the zoo or Jubrin from Sudan to do it for them.

superlightning:
Nnamdi Kanu is a clan prince who graduated from London Metropolitan University. He studied Political Economics.

With the disaffection he gradually developed for the Nigerian Political system and his desire for a better standard of life for eastern Nigeria, he initially moved for the restoration of the defunct regional system of government via MASSOB. This was before 2012, he later opted for biafra unconditionally.

But on seeing the impossibility of the goal partly due to MASSOB leader's (uwazurike's) compromise on the eventual reality of Biafra, and also, the lack of respect for the rule of law towards national equity by Nigerian politicians, he gave up lobbying through Nigeria's politicians.

Then came the formation of IPOB, a registered freedom fighting movement in over 30 countries worldwide and Radio Biafra, the tool he used in propagating the biafran cause.

He didn't force an IPOB establishment... The members naturally followed him. Kanu is bold, assertive, informed and charismatic, these leadership qualities made it easy for him to win followers.

He was arrested and jailed for "hate speech", yet the real agents of division are still out there killing maiming and raping Nigerians.

All he asks for at the moment is a REFERENDUM to conducted to know those wants to remain in Nigeria or opt for biafra. Is that a crime?

He has warned against the herdsmen attack, that was why he instituted a vilgilante group. But lo, dubious Nigerians claim he wants to cause mayhem. Now everyone is weeping with 'style'. Good morning.

I want a United and equitable Nigeria, but what I want does not exist. So, my sweetheart now is biafra and I pray for the day it comes.

So Igbos all just abandoned their properties in Lagos and Western Nigeria because they wanted to gift to the natives?

oyatz:
Please let us be truthful in our doings and sayings and avoid unnecessary embellishments.

There was NO massacres of Igbos in Lagos and Western Nigeria.

So Igbos all just abandoned their properties in Lagos and Western Nigeria because they wanted to gift them to the natives? There is no embellishments here it is a matter of historical record go and do research.

oyatz:
Please let us be truthful in our doings and sayings and avoid unnecessary embellishments.

There was NO massacres of Igbos in Lagos and Western Nigeria.

superlightning:
It's possiCAN,..... By pressuring the government of the day to act on referendum in the face of the international community.

Ahahahahah LoL. Pressuring a government to dismember it's own territory? That is what is impossiCANT. You'd have a better shot at it If you raise an army and go to war and If you're waiting on the international community to come help you, think again

Igbos abandoned their properties all over Nigeria, on the eve of the Civil war and moved to Biafra.

Prof Chinua Achebe, a key figure in the Biafran Government in his book 'There was a Country' gave a detailed account of how he drove from Lagos to the East passing through many towns/villages without anyone molesting him.

Please quote any credible source that shows that Igbos were massacred in Western.


The massacres you are referring to happened in NORTHERN Nigeria and started months before the declaration of Biafra.

oalandAgents2:
So Igbos all just abandoned their properties in Lagos and Western Nigeria because they wanted to gift them to the natives? There is no embellishments here it is a matter of historical record go and do research.

Afospecialk:
Nigeria just started massacre of our people for no reason ?

am I missing something here ?

Lol

oalandAgents2:
So Igbos all So some Igbos just abandoned their properties in Lagos and Western Nigeria because they wanted to gift them to the natives join Biafra? There is no embellishments here it is a matter of historical record go and do research.

Fixed!

Yes (to answer your question)

oalandAgents2:
There's never any justifiable reason for taking innocent lives or massacring people. The only point you need to note was massacres were taking place and were on-going.

So you were 3years old and you saw how your igbo brothers were massacred in Lagos and west for no just reason. Without any proof. And you want me to believe you uhn. So why did you omit the casino bombing by biafran armies in Lagos?

oyatz:
Igbos abandoned their properties all over Nigeria, on the eve of the Civil war and moved to Biafra.

Prof Chinua Achebe, a key figure in the Biafran Government in his book 'There was a Country' gave a detailed account of how he drove from Lagos to the East passing through many towns/villages without anyone molesting him.

Please quote any credible source that shows that Igbos were massacred in Western.


The massacres you are referring to happened in NORTHERN Nigeria and started months before the declaration of Biafra.

I wonder o. He should come and show his proof.

Sofistcatdmoron:
My mgbati mgbati sons of Afonja morons will flood here soon

Lol, so alleged cowards massacred the mighty brave Osus. Tell me something.

Unik3030:
bro,u are being emotional here, don't forget to every action there is an equal n opposite reaction. so kindly tell us what led to the massacre instead of trying to make us believe that they just woke up someday n started killing the igbos for no reason

He won't tell you. Don't bother yourself.

food4tot:
There are people who like being kings in the slum, that might be how you reason but it's not for me.
No my friend, I'm just someone who doesn't mind being an ordinary person in a tolerant and prosperous society.

stop showing poor reasoning here, use Singapore as a case study and understand what freedom is all about

oalandAgents2:
It is irrelevant, the point that needed to be made was that Igbos were being massacred, this thread is simply trying to highlight the situation on ground that made the Igbos take the decision to unilaterally declare the independent Republic of Biafra.

I cannot even answer the question even if I wanted to because as a victim, I can only second guess or speculate on the motives of the perpetrators of the massacres which would likely vary from one region to another.
The main thing to understand that there is no justifiable reason ever of massacre of innocent men women and children.

A chronic lair like you have no answer to give

oalandAgents2:
Referendum from democratic system he chose not to participate in, why would he now expect the federal government to take him seriously?

Furthermore please correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot recall IPOB or Nnamdi ever seeking to get a mandate from the Igbo people to agitate for Biafra on our behalf, or is by force that Igbos must become Biafra?

Federal government knows all this , in short they cannot take him seriously and him himself cannot be serious.

Another big point at the bolded

oalandAgents2:
Did I say I have finished?

you never finished yet you have started answering questions without finishing your essay? a topic you created since 7am and you never finish am by 5pm ? yet it has reached 2nd page. and you did not case to write to be continued ? take am easy

OP I hope you are planning on opening your own Biafraland forum...

oalandAgents2:
Please my Igbo family why is Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB agitating for freedom? Is he not free?

Of course Kanu and IPOB are not free. Freedom is when you can choose where you want to be. If Kanu and his people are not free to choose if the want to be in Nigeria or not, then they are not free

Somebody else mentioned IPOB is seeking a referendum, but did not state who he is seeking that referendum from.

Is it possible to achieve referendum whilst remaining outside of the politics of the country and existing democratic structures?

Nnamdi Kanu said he wants referendum in the area that comprised of the former Eastern Region that was once declared Biafra.

It is possible to get referendum without being involved in the politics of the country. Referendum is something that is conducted on the order of the national assembly.

oalandAgents2:
Referendum from democratic system he chose not to participate in, why would he now expect the federal government to take him seriously?

Furthermore please correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot recall IPOB or Nnamdi ever seeking to get a mandate from the Igbo people to agitate for Biafra on our behalf, or is by force that Igbos must become Biafra?

Federal government knows all this , in short they cannot take him seriously and him himself cannot be serious.

this post and your other comments shows you are on different page with kanu/ipob so pls when will you go out there and start your own movement and get it right

kingzizzy:
Do you care why Boko haram is massacaring people? It can never be justified so there is no point.

When herdsmen go out and massacre communities, nobody cares about the reason because massacre is never justified

Nothing on earth ever justifies the killing of unarmed and defenceless men, women and children. Only a fool will be looking for a reason to justify the mass-murder of people.

dont try to avoid d question by wiping emotional sentiment, u made us understand that igbos were massacred. we get that point, what happened b4 dat? were they d only tribe in Nigeria? y was other tribes not massacred too? are u trying to tell us they just woke up one day n started killing the igbos? bro don't compare boko Haram with what led to d civil war, they are two different things.

oalandAgents2:
It is irrelevant, the point that needed to be made was that Igbos were being massacred, this thread is simply trying to highlight the situation on ground that made the Igbos take the decision to unilaterally declare the independent Republic of Biafra.

I cannot even answer the question even if I wanted to because as a victim, I can only second guess or speculate on the motives of the perpetrators of the massacres which would likely vary from one region to another.
The main thing to understand that there is no justifiable reason ever of massacre of innocent men women and children.

how can u tell us d basis for an event is irrelevant when u want us to care about d event. it's like telling us to invest in a building n the foundation is irrelevant. how can u tell me no justifiable reason when we have an igbo coup b4 d war? ask yourself, did the igbos not taunt d north by putting a picture of nzeogwu on sarduanas corpse? u dissapoint me with that response of yours n d age u quoted. nothing meaningful about your half baked write up with your irrelevant basis with your age

I also want referendum in Onitsha to determine whether, they should be carved into Kogi State or remain in Anambra State.

kingzizzy:
Of course Kanu and IPOB are not free. Freedom is when you can choose where you want to be. If Kanu and his people are not free to choose if the want to be in Nigeria or not, then they are not free



Nnamdi Kanu said he wants referendum in the area that comprised of the former Eastern Region that was once declared Biafra.

It is possible to get referendum without being involved in the politics of the country. Referendum is something that is conducted on the order of the national assembly.