The old Eastern Region was an administrative area consisting of many tribes created by the British colonial Masters in the same way Nigeria was created.

When did Kanu seek their consent to determine that they want a referendum? Who gave Kanu the mandate to ask for referendum?

Do the Governors and Houses of Assemblies of these States ask for referendum or Kanu and his group have greater legitimacy than their States' Governments?

kingzizzy:


Of course Kanu and IPOB are not free. Freedom is when you can choose where you want to be. If Kanu and his people are not free to choose if the want to be in Nigeria or not, then they are not free



Nnamdi Kanu said he wants referendum in the area that comprised of the former Eastern Region that was once declared Biafra.

It is possible to get referendum without being involved in the politics of the country. Referendum is something that is conducted on the order of the national assembly.

What Kanu is asking for is similar to what Boko Haram is asking for.


Boko Haram are asking for Borno, Yobe and eight other Northern States to be given to them to create an Islamic Country based on the Sharia Legal system and have taken arms to actualize this demand (they aren't exploring the referendum option)

kingzizzy:


Of course Kanu and IPOB are not free. Freedom is when you can choose where you want to be. If Kanu and his people are not free to choose if the want to be in Nigeria or not, then they are not free



Nnamdi Kanu said he wants referendum in the area that comprised of the former Eastern Region that was once declared Biafra.

It is possible to get referendum without being involved in the politics of the country. Referendum is something that is conducted on the order of the national assembly.

oalandAgents2:
Referendum from democratic system he chose not to participate in, why would he now expect the federal government to take him seriously?

Furthermore please correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot recall IPOB or Nnamdi ever seeking to get a mandate from the Igbo people to agitate for Biafra on our behalf, or is by force that Igbos must become Biafra?

Federal government knows all this , in short they cannot take him seriously and him himself cannot be serious.

How else do you want the mandate given? When Kanu steps in, people follow. He is a natural leader. He was reluctant but eventually had to work with senator enyinnaya abaribe to speak sense into the igbo political class. Of course they rejected sense and chose to be seen as " corrupted leaders of the defeated".

You speak of Democratic system, was it not the same kanu that gave approval for IPOB to vote if they so desire during the last election? He has being trying not to involve himself in national politics... because he is a staunch SEPERATIST.

See, if you want to embrace truth, embrace it with your alms wide open. Nigeria is a failed contraption that has deliberately refused to work itself out. Somebody wants to referendum to decide whether his people stays or leaves. He knows Nigerian politicians of all tribes are corrupt because the system itself is corrupt. Why facing a man who believes in his people's dream of a separate state of biafra?

oyatz:
What Kanu is asking for is similar to what Boko Haram is asking for.


Boko Haram are asking for Borno, Yobe and eight other Northern States to be given to them to create an Islamic Country based on the Sharia Legal system and have taken arms to actualize this demand (they aren't exploring the referendum option)

Another dubious way of comparing the incomparable. Ipob does not terrorize. Many nations of the world have separatist groups.

oyatz:
I also want referendum in Onitsha to determine whether, they should be carved into Kogi State or remain in Anambra State.

And I want referendum to allow herdsmen to carry away people like you....

oyatz:
I also want referendum in Onitsha to determine whether, they should be carved into Kogi State or remain in Anambra State.

That's why you should support Kanu so we can all get referendum and choose where we want to be

oyatz:
The old Eastern Region was an administrative area consisting of many tribes created by the British colonial Masters in the same way Nigeria was created.

When did Kanu seek their consent to determine that they want a referendum? Who gave Kanu the mandate to ask for referendum?

Do the Governors and Houses of Assemblies of these States ask for referendum or Kanu and his group have greater legitimacy than their States' Governments?

Kanu does not need to seek the mandate of of anybody just as the British did not seek anybody's mandate before they lumped everybody into Nigeria

What matters is that everybody, including Kanu, has the right of self determination which is codified in international law and ratified by Nigeria. So Kanu and his group have the right to call for referendum of anywhere. Whether Kanu gets a referendum is another issue but he is well in his rights to call for one.

Besides, what type of person or people doesnt want the right to decide where they want to be or what country they belong to? Only a complete idiot or slave will deny himself the right to choose

Unik3030:
how can u tell us d basis for an event is irrelevant when u want us to care about d event. it's like telling us to invest in a building n the foundation is irrelevant. how can u tell me no justifiable reason when we have an igbo coup b4 d war? ask yourself, did the igbos not taunt d north by putting a picture of nzeogwu on sarduanas corpse? u dissapoint me with that response of yours n d age u quoted. nothing meaningful about your half baked write up with your irrelevant basis with your age

let me answer ur question...

the real reason igbos were massacred was that the first coup was wrongfully termed an igbo coup just as u did now.(even u urself know that some yorubas nd other tribes were involved..granted tho,igbos were in the majority)... And by the way...that ur second point about igbo mocking the north is is false..

now compare this figures= About 30 people were killed in The first coup.
while about 500 people were killd in the second coup.
wat did u notice?

helinues:
I always try to avoid Biafra issues cos people who are not on the same page with you always take it wrongly. But let me make my own contributions towards achieving it.

I am taking Ojukwu and Kanu out of the pictures.

There is an adage in my region " If you are not yet in possession of the golden sword, never ask about the person whom killed your father.

The manner and approach SE are currently going about Biafra can't be achieved even in 100 years time.

In Nigeria, each regions have their own versions of what transpired during the civil war, if I should believe our own versions, then Igbos are the betrayal but that's probably the motives of the writer from my region.. Which I believe same things happened to other stories from other regions.

All regions are claiming innocents, while we pretend to be one Nigeria even though no single trusts among each other.

Ndigbo needs a regional new party. Moderate Igbo should lead the party not any of this current politicians..

The current Igbo leaders and politicians can not negotiate anything on behalf of Igbo except what's going to benefits them.

The truth and honest is Igbos are creative and successful if whatever they do.. If they can replicate same back at home, build your region, invite investors at the same time making underground move about how to achieve biafra..

At least after 2 elections cycle, even if Biafra was yet to be achieved, presidency aspiration should be high, restructuring Nigeria supposed to be another certain agenda..

Let me add, you cant get biafra by thinking everybody is your enemy.. If that's the thought, remember you are also enemy to your enemies..

All the best

Yoruba boy mind your business..No one asks for your thoughts or opinions on this.

..If you were so smart,Fulani Herdsmen will not be holding sway in your region..

Just mind your damn business biko.

NkayStory:



Yoruba boy mind your business..No one asks for your thoughts or opinions on this.

..If you were so smart,Fulani Herdsmen will not be holding sway in your region..

Just mind your damn business biko.

Exactly what we are saying, even if he's a Yoruba as you insinuated, it is people like him and other Nigerians that you ought to be lobbying to get the referendum and secession clause into the constitution but of course, all you do is insult them and expect them to support you.

If I may ask you, are the Fulani herdsmen not in your region too, remove the log of wood in your eyes before searching for shaft in someone else's eyes.

Yyeske:
Exactly what we are saying, even if he's a Yoruba as you insinuated, it is people like him and other Nigerians that you ought to be lobbying to get the referendum and secession clause into the constitution but of course, all you do is insult them and expect them to support you.

If I may ask you, are the Fulani herdsmen not in your region too, remove the log of wood in your eyes before searching for shaft in someone else's eyes.

Always blabbing on Biafran threads like one with mental issues..Yoruba boy i am not here to answer your stupid questions therefore take your L and scram...

.I repeat mind your business cos your silly thoughts and opinion are useless.

I should lobby him and you because you are who again?...Yeye dey boom.

Bethel4Life:
let me answer ur question...

the real reason igbos were massacred was that the first coup was wrongfully termed an igbo coup just as u did now.(even u urself know that some yorubas nd other tribes were involved..granted tho,igbos were in the majority)... And by the way...that ur second point about igbo mocking the north is is false..

now compare this figures= About 30 people were killed in The first coup.
while about 500 people were killd in the second coup.
wat did u notice?

it was not an igbo coup but only igbo officers were left out of the killing, please tell me what I don't know. y not google d picture n check history books b4 u argue with me.

NkayStory:



Always blabbing on Biafran threads like one with mental issues..Yoruba boy i am not here to answer your stupid questions therefore take your L and scram...

.I repeat mind your business cos your silly thoughts and opinion are useless.

I should lobby him and you because you are who again?...Yeye dey boom.

When you are done crying, you'll still tell us how far you, Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB have gone into your referendum, secession and Biafra. Crying to me on nairaland won't give them to you

Unik3030:
it was not an igbo coup but only igbo officers were left out of the killing, please tell me what I don't know. y not google d picture n check history books b4 u argue with me.

Don't mind that one, a coup where military, traditional and political leaders from other regions were killed but not even one in the old Eastern region.

Yyeske:
When you are done crying, you'll still tell us how far you, Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB have gone into your referendum, secession and Biafra. Crying to me on nairaland won't give them to you

You carried your mouth and body odour to my mentions only to claim i am 'crying' to you...You must have some chronic mental issues.

I can see the nighmares you have over Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB has flipped you over to insanity..That is the only explanation for this early morning junk from you cone-head on my mentions.

oalandAgents2:
Here is what I think.
First Iam 55years old and was an infant during the first
Ojukwu led Biafra.
Having since done some research on the Ojukwu led Biafra here is what I learnt:

At the time 30th May 1967 that the Republic of Biafra was declared, the following were the facts on ground:

The Federal Republic of Nigeria of which Igboland was a territory was under the military rule of General Gowon, A Northerner who overthrew the previous military ruler General Ironsi in a bloody coup that assassinated General Ironsi and many other Igbo military officers.

Major General Ojukwu was the military Chief administering the Eastern region of the federal government of Nigeria at the time.

He was fully trained in warfare and I believe had served in military mission in war zone at home and abroad (UN peace keeping).

For most of the 11 months since Gowon had assumed power, a massacre of Igbos had been taking place not only in Northern States but also in Lagos and West. And Gowon had been unwilling or unable to bring these massacres to an end.

Ojukwu had exhausted all diplomatic options available to him in bring the crisis of the killings Igbos all over the country to an end; including sending envoys to meet General Gowon to persuade him to do whatever is necessary to stop Igbo massacres.

A summit with Gowon in Aburi Ghana took place and both of them reached an agreement known as the Aburi Accord, which was a plan to restructure Nigeria into a confederation and take steps to end ethinic tribal violence and killings.

Ojukwu in the face of unending massacres of Igbos had given Gowon's Federal govt an ultimatum by which time the Aburi Accord would begin to be implemented and Igbo killings brought to an end. Gowon seemed on able or unwilling to implement the Aburi Accord.

The Igbo masses were now pressuring Ojukwu to do something to save Igbo lives in the face of continued killings.

Ojukwu consulted Igbo Elders, Traditional rulers , Statemen and Heads of judiciary both current and retired, they gave him the mandate to declare the independent Republic of Biafra on May 30th 1967. I was 3 years old.

Ojukwu had complete backing of 100% of The Igbo population and had command over all existing Igbo military personnel and weapons and ammunition and machinery already in Igboland.

In an emotion- causing part of his speech as he declared the independent Republic of Biafra he addressed those Igbos still running for their lives, telling them to stay strong and to be assured that once they can cross that line in the land they will be safe from massacre.

I am getting emotional now. Will be back.

Ojukwu then remain in the trenches with the Nigerian troops for almost 3 years before Biafra was defeated by Gowon 's Nigerian troops who had the Support from UK , US , Russia (Soviet Union), and of course all ty the other tribal groups of the federation. An estimated 1million Igbo lives were lost a fair proportion of those died of starvation as Nigerian forced closed off off all ports and roads to supply us with food.

Ojukwu went into exile after the war ended and Igbo people returned to the rule of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

I was 6 years old by that time and old enough to understand and remember overwhelming mood of the Igbo people at that time, was relief that our suffering was over and that we had survived the war.

For his leadership Ojukwu remains an irrevocable leader and father in Igbo hearts and on his return from exile in 1983, he urged Igbos to accept Nigeria and work hard get their share of opportunities within federal Nigeria.

Chief Ojukwu died in 2011 age 78 having himself reintegrated into Nigeria democratic system and even sought elected office.

Well done my brother. I am impressed you are stimulating intellectual debate on the biafra question and not insults, threats and blackmail as employed by Kanu and his IPOB group. I am even none has called you efulefu, slave or afonja, maybe they are becoming more restraint.
Before I continue let me disagree with some of your narrative.
First, there is no record of massacres of Igbos in Lagos and in the West. Such unfounded allegations would be taken as malicious lies by the yorubas, it was in the north that Igbos were being massacred. If you have any reference to Igbos being massacred in Lagos in 1966 - 67, please educate us.

Secondly, I do not see the direct connection between the massacre or Igbos in other parts of Nigeria with declaration of Biafra. Yes, it was unfortunate and even criminal that Igbos were being massacred, and General Gowon did or could not stop it (the same thing that Gowon himself accused General Ironsi and hence his counter coup. He accused General Ironsi of not prosecuting the January 1966 murderers).
But, the Aburi accord was not about stopping the massacre of Igbos, it was about granting the south east under Ojukwu autonomy. The Aburi accord would not have stopped the Igbos massacres. It would have only made Ojukwu not be under the authority of Gowon.

As someone said, every tribe has different narrative of the war. Every body feels like victim and saw the others as aggressors.

NkayStory:



Yoruba boy mind your business..No one asks for your thoughts or opinions on this.

..If you were so smart,Fulani Herdsmen will not be holding sway in your region..

Just mind your damn business biko.

See where hatred is leading you to...instead of you to pondered on my suggestions, instead you are attacking me..

Everything is not about politics..

You do not need to quote me cos no sense in what you wrote above.

helinues:


See where hatred is leading you to...instead of you to pondered on my suggestions, instead you are attacking me..

Everything is not about politics..

You do not need to quote me cos no sense in what you wrote above.

I am telling you to mind your business...The opinion of a yoruba person like you on Biafran issues are meaningless and DOA..It has been proven over and over again.

..I have come across your posts and opinions regarding Igbos here,therefore no right-thinking SEner will take you or your kind serious..

Just mind your business..simple

helinues:


See where hatred is leading you to...instead of you to pondered on my suggestions, instead you are attacking me..

Everything is not about politics..

You do not need to quote me cos no sense in what you wrote above.

You should've known that that is what IPOB has made them be, they can never ponder or reason anything themselves except it does it for them, coupled with the fact that they are very insulting just as IPOB taught them.
Kids brainwashed to hate and always full of bile for themselves and other citizens, parents and grandparents should be blamed for this for not passing down the true narratives to them or perhaps they themselves didn't know about it

NkayStory:



I am telling you to mind your business...The opinion of a yoruba person like you on Biafran issues are meaningless and DOA..It has been proven over and over again.

..I have come across your posts and opinions regarding Igbos here,therefore no right-thinking SEner will take you or your kind serious..

Just mind your business..simple

You should be ashamed of yourself.. Who da hell are you to tell me to mind my business about my brothers? Or do you think everyone is a bigots like you? Okoro still gave me transactions yesterday while you are hating on the internet..

My comments was on the first page, nobody has ever quoted me instead they give likes.. Do you mean you are smarter than those Ndigbos?

You don't just comment if you don't have any reasonable thing to say..

Get out of my mentions..

Yyeske:
You should've known that that is what IPOB has made them be, they can never ponder or reason anything themselves except it does it for them, coupled with the fact that they are very insulting just as IPOB taught them.
Kids brainwashed to hate and always full of bile for themselves and other citizens, parents and grandparents should be blamed for this for not passing down the true narratives to them or perhaps they themselves didn't know about it

Honestly, the comments irritated me this morning.. They believed they are the only one who has monopoly of stupidity..

oalandAgents2:
Referendum from democratic system he chose not to participate in, why would he now expect the federal government to take him seriously?

Furthermore please correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot recall IPOB or Nnamdi ever seeking to get a mandate from the Igbo people to agitate for Biafra on our behalf, or is by force that Igbos must become Biafra?

Federal government knows all this , in short they cannot take him seriously and him himself cannot be serious.

When I started reading through your post, I thought you are a serious person, but I finally realized you are a mischievous person who is hopelessly ignorant and uneducated... your chief motive here is to discredit NNAMDI KANU, and your tactic in achieving that is to first seem to support ojukwu in other to blind people from your dirty work... You are probably not an Igbo person. And most of your stated historic facts are wrong.

Now let me address your ignorance, you asked if NNAMDI KANU first consulted the people and sort for their mandate before agitating for Biafra....a person not enlightened enough will not understand the game you are trying to play here. To enlighten your ignorance, NNAMDI KANU is not personally agitating for Biafra, he is demanding for a REFERANDUM from the government so that the PEOPLE can decide for themselves if they want Nigeria or Biafra....that is the ultimate mandate of the people you are asking for.... You probably don't know this...cus I can see you are not educated enough, if educated at all

helinues:


You should be ashamed of yourself.. Who da hell are you to tell me to mind my business about my brothers? Or do you think everyone is a bigots like you? Okoro still gave me transactions yesterday while you are hating on the internet..

My comments was on the first page, nobody has ever quoted me instead they give likes.. Do you mean you are smarter than those Ndigbos?

You don't just comment if you don't have any reasonable thing to say..

Get out of my mentions..

You should get lost biko..your 'Okoro' brothers where to where?..shior!

Who gave you 'likes'..your yoruba brothers gave you 'likes' you are talking nonsense.,

Common get lost and mind your business...,Go use the 'likes' have have some food to eat since it is that important to you...

I repeat mind your effing business..Your opinion is not needed on Biafran issues

Period!

helinues:


Honestly, the comments irritated me this morning.. They believed they are the only one who has monopoly of stupidity..

Yoruba boy mind your business..,You lots opinion on Biafran issues is not needed...Never have or never will be..

Deal with it.

helinues:


Honestly, the comments irritated me this morning.. They believed they are the only one who has monopoly of stupidity..

Just take it easy with them, do you think it is easy to be brainwashed and still remain sane? Anytime you feel insulted by them, just understand their psyche and don't get yourself worked up.

NkayStory:



You should get lost biko..your 'Okoro' brothers where to where?..shior!

Who gave you 'likes'..your yoruba brothers gave you 'likes' you are talking nonsense.,

Common get lost and mind your business...,Go use the 'likes' have have some food to eat since it is that important to you...

I repeat mind your effing business..Your opinion is not needed on Biafran issues

Period!

You are a disgrace to Ndigbo..

And these are the people what will be looking for God's fearing partner, meanwhile common dog Dem no fear..

Life doesn't evolved on politics only..

Pretend to read your jargons as a visitor and be the judge if any single sense is inside.

Make I find something better to do jare instead of engaging with someone who is looking for someone to abuse/attack online.

Newspaper stands are open.. Your mates are waiting for you.

Peace!

Yyeske:
Just take it easy with them, do you think it is easy to be brainwashed and still remain sane? Anytime you feel insulted by them, just understand their psyche and don't get yourself worked up.

Most of those miscreants are youths that have never left their communities...

I can never be pinched by their trouble making.. Cos average Igbo dont even have time to talk about politics..

Me still don't understand how people will continue to be repeating same mistakes over and over again

helinues:


You are a disgrace to Ndigbo..

And these are the people what will be looking for God's fearing partner, meanwhile common dog Dem no fear..

Life doesn't evolved on politics only..

Pretend to read your jargons as a visitor and be the judge if any single sense is inside.

Make I find something better to do jare instead of engaging with someone who is looking for someone to abuse/attack online.

Newspaper stands are open.. Your mates are waiting for you.

Peace!

*yawns*...You are blowing hot air in your face alone...Let Osinbanjo, Tinubu or Gbaja et al thread come up and your deceitful head will rear itself where you will deride Igbos in your worship of tinubu..

Now you think you have an opinion on Biafra because of 'your love'

Common scarm from this space fast!.,Who does not know you people with your sneaky,double-egded ways.

No be today.

banom:


When I started reading through your post, I thought you are a serious person, but I finally realized you are a mischievous person who is hopelessly ignorant and uneducated... your chief motive here is to discredit NNAMDI KANU, and your tactic in achieving that is to first seem to support ojukwu in other to blind people from your dirty work... You are probably not an Igbo person. And most of your stated historic facts are wrong.

Now let me address your ignorance, you asked if NNAMDI KANU first consulted the people and sort for their mandate before agitating for Biafra....a person not enlightened enough will not understand the game you are trying to play here. To enlighten your ignorance, NNAMDI KANU is not personally agitating for Biafra, he is demanding for a REFERANDUM from the government so that the PEOPLE can decide for themselves if they want Nigeria or Biafra ....that is the ultimate mandate of the people you are asking for.... You probably don't know this...cus I can see you are not educated enough, if educated at all

Kanu does not have the authority and is not in a position to demand anything. Kanu is just a Nigerian British citizen residing in the UK. At best he has an opinion just like any other Nigerian.

banom:


When I started reading through your post, I thought you are a serious person, but I finally realized you are a mischievous person who is hopelessly ignorant and uneducated... your chief motive here is to discredit NNAMDI KANU, and your tactic in achieving that is to first seem to support ojukwu in other to blind people from your dirty work... You are probably not an Igbo person. And most of your stated historic facts are wrong.

Now let me address your ignorance, you asked if NNAMDI KANU first consulted the people and sort for their mandate before agitating for Biafra....a person not enlightened enough will not understand the game you are trying to play here. To enlighten your ignorance, NNAMDI KANU is not personally agitating for Biafra, he is demanding for a REFERANDUM from the government so that the PEOPLE can decide for themselves if they want Nigeria or Biafra....that is the ultimate mandate of the people you are asking for.... You probably don't know this...cus I can see you are not educated enough, if educated at all

I think you are the one who needs some education on this, it is never one person or group that can request for something as big as a referendum or secession, it is the the representatives of the people that can do that and they include the traditional and political leaders.
No Igbo group, LGA, state, NASS member from the SE had asked Nnamdi Kanu or IPOB to speak for them or you can give us a link to when he consulted with the people