IronGalaxy:
Iwobi is overrated. And many are better than him including Tau

And maybe, one or two Madagascan players

Capiche

charlesemeka85:
one thing you fail to understand is that every team is beatable. the world is full of surprises so i see no reason you have to in shock that madagascar won nigeria today. few years ago south africa hosted spain in a friendly encounter in your country and won by a lone goal so does that mean your team is superior than theirs? you drew with seychelles away during the afcon qualifiers does that mean seychelles is on the same level with your bafana bafana?

edi287:

Of course. Just like Tau is better than Zaha and Pepe because he performed against Namibia and in the MIGHTY MIGHTY MIGHTY Belgian second division.

IronGalaxy:
I also can't remember when last did Nigeria had a decent team. Definitely the Finidi George era. The current crop are just Europe journeymen. Keep boasting about who plays where whole the likes of Madagascar keep walloping you as.ses

edi287:

So Tau hasn't performed at the CWC, didn't boss the CAF CL but according to you I'm to accept he is better than Iwobi because he performed in the Belgian second division and against Namibia - yet I'm slow?? LMAO!!! Next time don't make comparisons that doesn't make sense.
We might as well say Tau is better than Zaha and Nicolas Pépé then since he's performed better in AFCON so far.

IronGalaxy:
Nicholas Pepe is a superior player to Tau. His records at Lille point to that. He also performs well for his national team . Including Zaha


Iwobi is not unfortunately.

IronGalaxy:
Yes he is. Iwobi doesn't show up for Arsenal and for Nigeria and Tau does for both club and country.

This convo is running in circles now. I think iwobi is average and that's what I think. I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings man. I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over

charlesemeka85:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! so since finidi and co retired nigerian have not been able to qualify for the world cup,olympics and afcon?since finidi and co retired nigeria have not been able to win afcon and bronze and silver in the men's football competition in the olympics?

listen, the success of nigeria for the past decade is the investment made on grass youth football which the dividends are obvious not judging by how many players the nff u13s have produced from the year the program kicked off. over 80% of players who emerged from the scheme are with the national teams be it u17,u20,u23 and the super eagles. do you have an idea of how many nigerian kids that leaves for europe annually to sign contracts with european top academies?

i think your fa should borrow such idea rather hyping your league always

edi287:

So am i. If Iwobi is average - so is Tau. Iwobi plays better at a much superior team.
Finito.

IronGalaxy:
Nicholas Pepe is a superior player to Tau. His records at Lille point to that. He also performs well for his national team . Including Zaha

Iwobi is not unfortunately.

edi287:

Iwobi is better. He is two years younger and his records also show it.
That's why Arsenal can afford to give him a new contract after getting 25m bids while Tau is playing in the second division at Belgium.
If Iwobi is overrated - so is Tau. Tau wouldn't even play as much as Iwobi if he was at Arsenal.

darkelf:
Una wey dey follow southie argue for ball, una get time oo

By this time sef

na wa

charlesemeka85:
that means chukwueze,onyekuru and oshimeh are all miles ahead of tau because this kids who are just in their early twenties did marvelously well in their respective european team and have attracted top teams.

oshimeh have been linked with a move to milan,lille and ajax,onyekuru is been linked with teams in laliga, chukwueze is wanted by barca,liverpool and bayern.

bonaventure dennis who is a standout performer in the belgian top tier in the colors of club brugge is yet to bed capped but he is highly rated and regarded in europe than tau. this arsenal,lyon and feneberch have been linked with him. mind you he is just 22 and plays for our u23 nd plays for our u23 team

IronGalaxy:
oh." 2nd Division in Belgium" the next time I hear I'll swear puke. we all know how he got there.

IronGalaxy:
Again. It all boils down on what you can do on the field and not who you play for. For the umpteenth time

IronGalaxy:
sorry that's what I think. No Nigerian talent has matched the likes of Oliseh, Kanu, Babayaro, Babangida and co. Come on now

charlesemeka85:
you made sense but our worst players will be diamonds in your team

IronGalaxy:
yeah like our league's worst goalkeeper being your country's number one

Snap out of it. The era of Jay-jay is gone, you are just another African team now

IronGalaxy:
yeah like our league's worst goalkeeper being your country's number one

Snap out of it. The era of Jay-jay is gone, you are just another African team now

charlesemeka85:
our worst era is can never be compared to your best era

charlesemeka85:
but atleast he plays for one of the biggest team in your league

darkelf:


Na true na.

Make we dey see. The probability of us loosing in the round of 16 is high and if that happens, um betting it that Rohr would still keep his job

charlesemeka85:
our worst era is can never be compared to your best era

IronGalaxy:
smh. How old are you?

TheSuperNerd:
It may seem unpopular Dad... But dropping Iheanacho, even though deserved, was possibly one of the mistakes Rohr made. He is the only natural SS we have and is our best setpiece taker. I have said it long before now... Nacho is key to this new golden generation and will be back to continue his contributions. This is just his nadir point and he must rise to be counted worthy again.


All the same... We await whoever we are bound to take on now.

Solace earlier today did a pathway check to the final had Nigeria finished first. He said a potential quarter final meeting with Cameroun awaits and if we survive that, then a potential Semi final game vs Egypt awaits. Could we have dodged a bullet with this loss? Loolll... Time will tell

Philosopher1979:


We need kelechi nwakali in that team. He is a good attacking midfielder. Players like lukman Haruna and rabiu ibrahim should have been invited for the friendlies to see if they are still good. The team lacks attacking midfielders and creative players. The problem is the players we need are not playing for top european clubs and we make this mistake of thinking that once a player is not in leicester he is not good. We even have an attacking midfielder in our local league (i have forgotten his name). The creative side of our game needs to be worked and this fixation with European football needs to end.

I also suggest that we need to play with two attacking midfielders and not one. I mean kelechi nwakali can compliment Iwobi in midfield so as to increase our creativity. Our Journalists need to celebrate creative players and not just wingers and goalscorers. The team is not technically balanced. Also, there is a strange dependence we have on Mike Obi which is outdated and based on his performance in 2005. This is dragging back our football. Having the best striker in the world is useless or limiting if you do not have creative midfielders. Players like kevin de bruyne and lucas modric are needed in this team and NOT players like Gabriel Jesus. You dont get good tires when the engine of your car is not working.

Football is about technical depth and balance and not star players. We have lacked creative players since Okocha and this is psychological. We often REFUSE to invite creative players into our team because of "Mikel Obi mentality". This loss is a blessing in disguise. Rohr should have learnt. When the team played with Iwobi as an attacking midfielder for a year, we played well.

We are wasting Kelechi Nwakali right now because he does not have a good club. This is funny. WE NEEd CREATIVITY IN OUR MIdFIELd.
at least for now, iwobi and maybe chukwueze should be encouraged. At lease, they are the most creative players we have. Mikel is a defensive midfielder/deep laying playmaker and NOT A PLAYMAKER. We need to get over this Mikel mentality. If not, he should be dropped. Egyt has won the nations cup with home based players. There is an urgent need to search for, encourage and groom creative players for our national teams. If not even Ronaldo will not help this team. Just look at Juventus in the champions league with Ronaldo.

IronGalaxy:
Again. It all boils down on what you can do on the field and not who you play for. For the umpteenth time