enemyofprogress:
bros that word is not leaving o

Living

Any other mistake ?

Nigerians wake up..

AgentOfAllah:

Who said anything about "expecting" fairness? Nah, you fight to the death for it!


This is a dangerous and demonstrably false mindset. Strong people can fight for and have given their lives to protect weak people.


What are you on about, and what has this got to do with the plight of Black Americans?


What do you think I am doing when I call attention to the often ignored historical context through which the present situation of black Americans can be viewed?



Please educate me. How have most Igbos picked themselves up? What is the population of Igbos in Nigeria and what percentage of those are doing well economically?

Don't be fooled by idiotic feel-good drivel promoted by the elite to distract you from the stark reality of your situation. You will hear silly things like: "Igbos are the most successful businessmen", "Yorubas are the most educated ethnic group", "Hausas are the most honest people", and similar crap. The truth is that there are only two tribes in Nigeria today, and you will know them by their economic situation: The proletariat who do all the work for crumbs, and the bourgeoisie, who exploit all these fake ethnic and religious divisions to keep the proletariat poor and desperate enough to work for crumbs. Wake up and know who your real enemies are, comrade!

interesting

RTSC:
Nigerians are benefiting from the hard work of african americans. We should give respect to who it is due.

All their civil rights struggle from rosa park, Dr king, malcolm x, e.t.c and now recently "black lives matter" movement.

Many of them paid with their lives and are still paying it.

You can't blame african americans for having a victim mentality.
They are victims of the system.

Oh c'mon!

Victims, victims & victims!!! Don't you folks get tired of repeating same stuff every time? Everyone has been slaved for ages and these individuals have moved on without acting victimised. Arabs enslaved blacks more than the Europeans yet no one mentions that.

Regarding the bold, why is the movement not focusing on black-on-black deaths? Like those that happen in Chicago and environs?

@Topic: I doubt that statement. Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean etc Americans are more successful and richer than Nigerian-Americans.

AgentOfAllah:
Don't fall for this crap!! This is a brazen divide and conquer tactic to shame historically disenfranchised black Americans into believing that it was they, themselves, not slavery, not racist jim crow laws, that caused their current situation. The American society owes black Americans a debt that must be repaid. To blame them for the situation in which they find themselves is to play fast and loose with history, and it doesn't help solve their situation.

Why should descendants be held responsible for their ancestors' sins? Besides, with "diversity", "inclusion" and good old "affirmative action", has the debt not being repaid? When will you ask the Arabs to do same?

Tears just came out of my eye while reading this, I don't know if its tears of joy but am just so impressed

timesup234:
Yes man! I am everywhere destroying the illusion of the American dream which in reality is a nighmare

While you keep mixing concrete in delta state..If you channel your energy on more positive things like getting a proper education you would hv gone far in life.

Ugosample:


this guy again?

Very stupid guy, to think of he is in one remote village in delta is very funny.

Gerrard59:


Oh c'mon!

Victims, victims & victims!!! Don't you folks get tired of repeating same stuff every time? Everyone has been slaved for ages and these individuals have moved on without acting victimised. Arabs enslaved blacks more than the Europeans yet no one mentions that.

Regarding the bold, why is the movement not focusing on black-on-black deaths? Like those that happen in Chicago and environs?

@Topic: I doubt that statement. Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean etc Americans are more successful and richer than Nigerian-Americans.

Errr....no, Arabs didn't enslave blacks more than Europeans. Most of the black people outside Africa are found in Europe, America, South America and Central America and the Caribbean/West Indies because of the legacy of European slave trade. Arabs never came close to the industrial scale exploitation of black bodies in chattel slavery.

And black-on-black violence has always been a focus of the African-American intelligentsia and elites and grassroots movements and even black churches? Who said you must focus on the singular issue at the expense of other issues of institutionalized mass incarceration, over-policing and police brutality?

Ugosample:



The world is a CRUEL place
You don't expect fairness from anyone

If you are weak, you will be eaten up
That is the way of the world

Arabs raided Europe for centuries
Europe did not succumb

If they did, theur story would have been different today

Arabs raided and plundered Africa
Europe raided and plundered Africa too

i get your point,,as you are looking at it from a moral angle.
but then the world is the way it is
You have to pick yourself up..


Igbos were ruined by Nigeria in the late 60s and early 70s
but we picked ourselves up.
even tho some igbos still have victim mentality

but still
most picked themselves up
and look at where we are today in the economic space in Nigeria

Thanks so much. Please make it louder. Chinese in Malaysia have been discriminated against so much yet they earn more money than ethnic Malays. Same Malaysia kicked out Singapore (which is predominantly composed of ethnic Chinese), yet Singapore picked up and became more developed and richer than Malaysia today. Same Singapore was occupied by the Japanese, yet that didn't hinder them from progressing and being best buddies with today's Japan. Same Japanese enslaved and committed heinous atrocities against Koreans yet that didn't stop the Koreans from advancing and being a major trading partner with Japan. Yet again, same Japanese committed atrocities in China but the Chinese did not allow that slow their development. Today, China is Japan's biggest trading partner.

If after more than 400 years, some people still blame slavery (whereas every race has once been under slavery), then they are deluded!

edi287:
Keep deceiving yourselves. People like Candace Owens are only using this to spite AAs. When Trump called Africa a shit hole - why didn't the likes of Candace come out and say this?? Did she and her silly gang don't praise him and say he was right??
For the morons who are getting gassed up by this nonsense should remember Nigeria is
- Poverty Capital of the world
- More than 70 percent live on less than a $1 a day
- lack of constant water and power supply.

Compare the elite Black American folks to Naija folks and you'll see the difference is minimal at best.
I'm not trying to undermine the achievement of naija folks in the states but some ignorant folks should not get carried away and stop dick riding this bimbo Candace Owens.

Like you have been around the country to access the statistics of people living in less than a dollar a day?
How much is a $1 that an average Nigerian cannot afford? Someone will just wake up and be writing craps just to get noticed.
It’s you & your family that are living in less than a dollar. Slow poke!

Tolexander:
Unfortunately, the Americans don’t know anything like Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo. All they know is Nigerians.

The reason we all have to join hands together to condemn every criminal acts perpetrated by Nigerians outside there and praise the hardworking ones promoting our country.

i just gave u ur 1k like

Obi1kenobi:


Errr....no, Arabs didn't enslave blacks more than Europeans. Most of the black people outside Africa are found in Europe, America, South America and Central America and the Caribbean/West Indies because of the legacy of European slave trade. Arabs never came close to the industrial scale exploitation of black bodies in chattel slavery.

And black-on-black violence has always been a focus of the African-American intelligentsia and elites and grassroots movements and even black churches? Who said you must focus on the singular issue at the expense of other issues of institutionalized mass incarceration, over-policing and police brutality?

Regarding blacks found disproportionately in the west is because they were allowed to live. However, same cannot be said for the Arabians who massacred or castrated the blacks there.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-silence-about-black-slavery-in-the-arab-world/

On the aspect of gun violence, well, that is what happens when the family system is broken down by years of feeding bottle welfarism and gangsterism which has baby-mamaism as a negative result. You have a set of humans who are not brought up properly and majority with a single parent even when stats show that children who grow up in a two parent household do better in life than those from a single parent family even after adjusting for variables. You have a system where erring kids in schools cannot be disciplined because it "hurts their feelings" and as a result, they distort the learning environment for those who desire to learn. Yet again, a system that doesn't promote hard work and closely knitted homes cannot outdo those who promote these values.

Sure, all ills must be looked at holistically, however, if after over half a century of "progressive politics", years of black dominated leadership and even a black presidency, these ills still remain. Then, other solutions should be explored.

Tolexander:
Unfortunately, the Americans don’t know anything like Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo. All they know is Nigerians.

The reason we all have to join hands together to condemn every criminal acts perpetrated by Nigerians outside there and praise the hardworking ones promoting our country.

Correct

adebayo1998:
It's the Yoruba tribe that are making waves all over the world

Oh shit...i wasn't expecting this but... Here you are again.... Tribalism isn't the way to go sir... Please

When you are init for the dollars, why won't you work overtime and play to be extra nice?

Gerrard59:


Thanks so much. Please make it louder. Chinese in Malaysia have been discriminated against so much yet they earn more money than ethnic Malays. Same Malaysia kicked out Singapore (which is predominantly composed of ethnic Chinese), yet Singapore picked up and became more developed and richer than Malaysia today. Same Singapore was occupied by the Japanese, yet that didn't hinder them from progressing and being best buddies with today's Japan. Same Japanese enslaved and committed heinous atrocities against Koreans yet that didn't stop the Koreans from advancing and being a major trading partner with Japan. Yet again, same Japanese committed atrocities in China but the Chinese did not allow that slow their development. Today, China is Japan's biggest trading partner.

If after more than 400 years, some people still blame slavery (whereas every race has once been under slavery), then they are deluded!

That's right.... It's time for us to get out s**t together

Gerrard59:


Why should descendants be held responsible for their ancestors' sins? Besides, with "diversity", "inclusion" and good old "affirmative action", has the debt not being repaid? When will you ask the Arabs to do same?

Mr. Gerrard59 has 4 children. Ade, Bade, Tade and Wade. Uncle Tom has 3 Children. I don't care what their names are.

One night, Uncle Tom raids Mr. Gerrard59's house and kidnaps Ade, Bade and Tade, takes them across the sea, then forces them to build a fantastical mansion in a mythical city called Washington DC for free, so that he and his three children can live in security and comfort, happily ever after. And happily, they lived.
In fact, Uncle Tom grew very old and died, his three children also grew old and died they had many grand children, and all of them continued to enjoy the benefits of the magnificent estate Uncle Tom had the foresight to build....with the free labour of Gerrard59's Ade, Bade and Tade.

Gerrard59 is now long dead too. In fact, Ade, Bade, Tade and Wade too are all dead. But they left descendants of theirs. Wade's descendants are in a mythical continent called Africa. Ade's, Bade's and Tade's descendants remain under the service of Uncle Tom's descendants.

Unfortunately for Uncle Tom's descendants, they only lived happily, but not ever after. Ade's, Bade's and Tade's descendants are now many enough to cause riots and make their continued captivity very expensive for Uncle Tom's descendants to maintain. Uncle Tom's descendants, being clever, decide to finally free the descendants of Gerrard59.

However, remember that Uncle Tom's descendants still 'own' that fantastical edifice in Washington DC that Ade, Bade and Tade built for free. Now, they can rent it out, sell it, lease it, convert it into a private museum of American history and continue to make a killing (mind buggling profit, that is to say) out of it. Uncle Tom's descendants have all the requisite capital to stay rich. Gerrard59's kid are set free, but left with nothing to look after themselves, despite the fact that it was their free labour that gave Uncle Tom's descendants their privileged advantage.

But wait a minute! I lied!! That labour that built the magnificent edifice in Washington DC wasn't free. It was stolen!! Remember that Uncle Tom actually stole Gerrard59's Ade, Bade and Tade in the first place.

When a thief steals something and the thief's children continue to take advantage of that stolen property long after the thief is dead. My question to you is as follows:

Is it appropriate to ask the thief's children to return what was stolen to the children of the original owner?

If your answer to the above is yes, then you agree that this has nothing to do with children paying for the sins of their ancestors, and everything to do with giving back stolen things to their original owners; in this case, the descendants of Gerrard59.

Get this: America was built on stolen labour. And until the fruits of the stolen labour is returned to the original labourers, the American society will always owe a debt to Black Americans. ALWAYS!!

That's the best I can do to help you understand this situation. If you still don't get it, I can't help.

And yes, I'd say the same about the Arabs, but this discussion isn't about Black Arabs, it's about black Americans!

adebayo1998:
It's the Yoruba tribe that are making waves all over the world

no the yoruba guy succeeded in explaining how his people are poor and and how he spends..alot..SMH

We are blessed as a people and nation but for leadership that's where the error lies

Heffalump:



Another tribalist on the loose again.

They refer to hard working Nigerians, you're here talking about your Afonja nation.

Be patriotic for Christ, at least!

You too need to work on your own tribalism. You can correct him without calling him Afonja.

Infinityk:

Lol nigerians are not in top 50 of smart ppl,if we are to go by countries
Don't bring some crap about some dumb little achievement Nigerians make abroad
Watch fareed zakaria GPS on CNN
And cry for d black race after statistics upon statistics are released

Have you read tiger mom

https://nypost.com/2014/01/04/tiger-mom-some-groups-are-just-better-than-others/

Also read this
Data show Nigerians the most educated in the U.S.
BACHELOR'S AND BEYOND
In America, Nigerians' education pursuit is above rest
Whether driven by immigration or family, data show more earn degrees
https://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php

Exactly. I will definitely work harder. My dream must come to pass.

raumdeuter:


Have you read tiger mom

https://nypost.com/2014/01/04/tiger-mom-some-groups-are-just-better-than-others/

Also read this
Data show Nigerians the most educated in the U.S.
BACHELOR'S AND BEYOND
In America, Nigerians' education pursuit is above rest
Whether driven by immigration or family, data show more earn degrees
https://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php

Be fooling yourself, u hear?

Tolexander:
Unfortunately, the Americans don’t know anything like Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo. All they know is Nigerians.

The reason we all have to join hands together to condemn every criminal acts perpetrated by Nigerians outside there and praise the hardworking ones promoting our country.

On behalf of the entire silent readers association of Nairaland(west african branch), we wish to crown you the most popular Nairalander ever... im practically screaming... omo see your likes .... okay now back to the erudite speech, you have, by the power invested in me, over taken the previous holder of this position (i have forgotten his user name but will do a research on it), and hereby is entitled to the following privilleges;

-followership from my monika(kfb)
-recognition from Seun (owner of Nairaland) and
-exclusive authority to demand that Seun, the owner of Nairaland, makes you a mod for the people


modified @Built2last (previously crowned most liked post) please kindly now crown our new legend ...
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Tolexander:
Unfortunately, the Americans don’t know anything like Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo. All they know is Nigerians.

The reason we all have to join hands together to condemn every criminal acts perpetrated by Nigerians outside there and praise the hardworking ones promoting our country.

Thanks my brother.

Since I joined Nairaland, this is the comment with the highest likes I've seen. Boy!! Over 1000 likes.

That's a sign that we Nigerians, irrespective of tribe or creed want the progress of this country.

Nigeria shall be great again

Infinityk:


Be fooling yourself, u hear?

I thought you wanted to discuss the facts, Apparently your diatribe is low on facts

according to Census data bolstered by an analysis of 13 annual Houston-area surveys conducted by Rice University.


Although they make up a tiny portion of the U.S. population, a whopping 17 percent of all Nigerians in this country held master's degrees while 4 percent had a doctorate, according to the 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 37 percent had bachelor's degrees.

To put those numbers in perspective, 8 percent of the white population in the U.S. had master's degrees, according to the Census survey. And 1 percent held doctorates. About 19 percent of white residents had bachelor's degrees. Asians come closer to the Nigerians with 12 percent holding master's degrees and 3 percent having doctorates.

The Nigerian numbers are "strikingly high," said Roderick Harrison, demographer at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that specializes in researching black issues

AgentOfAllah:


I'm surprised my first response to you got deleted. I'm not sure what I wrote that warranted its deletion. I think i made some pretty compelling arguments as to why Slavery and Jim Crow laws are responsible for current predicament of black Americans. It would have been useful for Nigerian immigrants to see and understand how white folks try to avoid responsibility for their past sins by using them as validation seeking pawns so as to isolate black Americans. Now, I can't be bothered to rewrite it.

Jesus Seun, what's wrong with your zealous moderators?

Bro, everything you saying is the definition of entitlement. Thinking that America owes you anything is pure entitlement. And yeah essentialism is a bad thing. Not all black Americans feel entitled. Some go to school and work their asses off. They make it in life and live well. But the majority of them wanna be rappers and gangsters wanna be the next hot rapper. Even the ones that have no talent. Education is not their thing. In America, just a simple high school cert is enough for you to live fine. The government even gives financial aid for low income families to go to college. This is what most Nigerian and immigrant kids benefit from. That system was designed for black Americans to use, but they wouldn't. Nigerians are using it and they living fine. Now, truthfully this a glass ceiling limitation on minority in which you can only rise to a certain level, but that doesn't mean the company wont recorgnise you if you are a star. That's why people love Nigerians, we dont feel entitled for anything. We see it as an opportunity and we intend to make the best use of it. Educated or hard working black Americans are doing perfectly fine.

booscy:
We come Yankee come play for snow abi?
My friend besides we being hardworking, everybody dey wait to hear from you back home, because once dem give you visa, you don hammer.

We no need fall handiooooooo!!!!!

Lol

Just few more points. Have you heard about the hashtag #Blackgirlmagic ?. When have you ever heard of #whitegirlmagic, or #asiangirlmagic? Nah! Other races hustle in silence and their achievements make the waves for them. Other races long to contribute to the most important things. Science techs, businesses, environments e.t.c. they worship 2pac and think celebrities are Gods. I'm not saying it's bad to wanna be a celebrity, but when we talking about power, only the learned own it. I cant even begin to write all I wanna say it's so freaking emotional

my annoyance is dat our leaders do not want d country to upgrade,no matter d dream u hav to catapult naija to d standard of developd nations,som ppl mindset has bn programd to kill dreams so dat we wont get there,eg d aboki muslims

Switup:
On behalf of the entire silent readers association of Nairaland(west african branch), we wish to crown you the most popular Nairalander ever... im practically screaming... omo see your likes .... okay now back to the erudite speech, you have, by the power invested in me, over taken the previous holder of this position (i have forgotten his user name but will do a research on it), and hereby is entitled to the following privilleges;

-followership from my monika(kfb)
-recognition from Seun (owner of Nairaland) and
-exclusive authority to demand that Seun, the owner of Nairaland, makes you a mod for the people


modified @Built2last (previously crowned most liked post) please kindly now crown our new legend ...
-

Na emeijeh...but e neva reach

But las las e go REACH