Your mind is made up. Game I watched keenly as I always do every game? Please. It's enough. Your mind is made up. You won't see it because you don't want to.

forgiveness:


Please, watch the match again. All Nigerian's players were in the half of the Camerounians and about 5 or 6 players were in the box to receive a cross. That was part of Rohr's tactics not the movement of Chukwueze.

Humility017:


don't mind forgiveness....
he does not want to accept it that samu did well...

the problem I have with many on this thread...pride will never let them eat their humble pie..

no one knows it all...even when you resolutions fails...speak and say the truth

You wey just want Ighalo, Simon and Musa commot for team.

forgiveness:


He started the first match but I don't think he created a single chance though he showed us what we Nigeria fans love to see.

U are as good as ur last game, and in that last game, he created 3 in 30mins while the guy he replaced had none in 60. Against Madagascar, same guy came on and had zero impact, zero chance


Chucks intro changed the dynamics of the game against Cameroun, Moses's had none against MIGHTY Madagascar

Jarus:


year 2 and SS3 no dey different nah.

I repeat class for pry 2, if not nah year 1 I go dey for uni. and I start school late sef.

so we fit be mate o

o boy you know how many times I write JAMB, biko make we no dey disgrace ourselves here o na play i dey play o

forgiveness:


You wey just want Ighalo, Simon and Musa commot for team.

Lol... That's basically our front three naa.... Haba!

How Humility go want make all of them out naa.... No naa... I think it is only Ighalo he even bitterly wanted dropped... Egbon... You are funny ooo... take am easy naa... See as you just cancel out the whole front three just to pin it on Humility... Cool down ooo....

I hope he becomes serious this time around and gets a club in Belgium Pro League

Earthquake3:
Nwakali trains with his Arsenal teammates

tbaba1234:
Cameroon has caused Nigeria some deep pain. The younger folks will not understand the satisfaction, every time we beat them..

Walahi I just pray and hope we get to beat them like 4 to 5 times at the final of afcon during my lifetime that's the only way I can forgive Cameroon for does painful childhood defeat.

na that final own dey pain pass o

Bash92:
Walahi I just pray and hope we get to beat them like 4 to 5 times at the final of afcon during my lifetime that's the only way I can forgive Cameroon for does painful childhood defeat.

My observations

1. We started the game pretty well by pressing them which was why we could see their defense making errors, but we just couldn't capitalize and make them pay for it.

2. At a point in the game, it almost seemed like we were playing against a Brazilian team and before you could say anything we were 2 goals down.

3. Akpeyi is a standard of measurement already, other goalkeepers call use him as a reference point to measure their ineptitudes. He'd always remind us at least once in every 90 minute period why he's Akpeyi.

4. Our fullbacks faced superior wingers today and were found wanting on few occasions, nevertheless, they had an impressive outing.

5. Chukwueze's a gem, his introduction saw that we had 3 clear chances at goal and even a shot for himself that could have went in. he's been an impressive addition to the team so far. I don't miss Victor Moses.

6. Our match against Madagascar where musa had to control the ball then try rounding up the GK before he scores and yesterday when he controlled a pass before attempting a shot that was blocked, I've been watching Onyekuru for a while now and these are the kind of goals he scores, he picks his angle and bang!!

7. Ighalo proved me wrong, yesterday was his day.
8. I still want Rohr out, except the NFF would see reasons to appoint a better tactician to support him.

Snapshot 1....... The moment the Cameroonians parked the bus, all our players pressed/moved upfront. The moment Omeruo passed the ball to Awaziem. Who drew two players?

Snapshot 2...... The moment Awaziem received the ball from Omeruo. Notice all our players were running into the box to receive the cross. Chukwueze was left unmarked and was waiting to receive the pass(he was asking for the ball). Where were the two players he drew away for Awaziem to cross?

Snapshot 3. The moment the LB tried to close up on Awaziem but he crossed the ball before he reached him.

Snapshot 4. The moment we parked the bus after we equalised and stole the ball after we pressed with few players to score the winning goal.


We should be more objective when analysing games.

ChrisKels:


U are as good as ur last game, and in that last game, he created 3 in 30mins while the guy he replaced had none in 60. Against Madagascar, same guy came on and had zero impact, zero chance


Chucks intro changed the dynamics of the game against Cameroun, Moses's had none against MIGHTY Madagascar

I don't like where this discussion is heading. I am not about to see a Chuks vs Simon debate get escalated. Listen Chriskels and Forgiveness. I like both players....


Vs Guinea, I said Chukwueze will never put in the monstrous workrate Simon put in up and down that flank offensively and defensively. And offensively, Simon was well above average while he was excellent defensively. That is one.

Vs Cameroun, Simon's workrate always tending more to the scale of excellence in defence more than in attack didn't augur well for us and was not going to get us over the line against the Indomitable lions. This is where Chuks trumps him. In being overly much more offensive and super threatening on the attack with the far higher tendency to make magic happen out of anything. Plus the fact that his threat is well known and will always make any coach double up on him thus altering the opponents' defensive structure at any given point in the game.


In summary, Simon got the workrate and will provide better cover for your Full back than Chuks.
But Chuks got the magic feet of crazy attacking intents and ability to create something outta nothing. He offers average or below average when it comes to covering your fullback.

Going forward... I feel Chukwueze's attacking madness will take us further and get us out of holes much more comfortably than Simon's approach of more workrate in defence than creativity in attack.



Now.... End this talk... I will tolerate no escalation of the matter. Both players are loved by me and I see their importance based on tactical set ups and team approaches and ultimately Team goals.


This is what a rising golden generation should like like!!! The competition is great!

We are the Super Eagles.... And we are still Africa's most unpredictable team.

Joebie:
na that final own dey pain pass o

That's why I want us to beat them in 5 finals, so that they we feel what we feel back then.

TheSuperNerd:
How many did we create before Chuks' intro and how many were created after his introduction?

Stop this path you are taking to make Chuks look bad becos you just favor Simon more. It is not fair at all. I have explained the tactical happenings behind Chuks' intro and what it led to even before he saw even more of the ball. That lad alone created space on the right of our attack by his off-the ball movements.... How is that hard to understand? In 30 mins he gave the highest number of key passes and created the most chances all game not adding those created by others after his intro and you claim we created more before he came in. Bia Egbon... Just drop this talk. Your point is aimed at justifying Simon starting over Chuks.

Please this team needs to go further in this competition and even possibly win it. We cannot do that by always defending and defending from the flanks. So if you find a better and faster way of achieving a task, you will ignore it because you just prefer the old time-draining way? Is that it?

Where did I make Chukwueze look bad? Are you trying to set me up?

Well, all you said are just your opinions. I don't care who starts at this stage.

TheSuperNerd:




I don't like where this discussion is heading. I am not about to see a Chuks vs Simon debate get escalated. Listen Chriskels and Forgiveness. I like both players....


Vs Guinea, I said Chukwueze will never put in the monstrous workrate Simon put in up and down that flank offensively and defensively. And offensively, Simon was well above average while he was excellent defensively. That is one.

Vs Cameroun, Simon's workrate always tending more to the scale of excellence in defence more than in attack didn't augur well for us and was not going to get us over the line against the Indomitable lions. This is where Chuks trumps him. In being overly much more offensive and super threatening on the attack with the far higher tendency to make magic happen out of anything. Plus the fact that his threat is well known and will always make any coach double up on him thus altering the opponents' defensive structure at any given point in the game.


In summary, Simon got the workrate and will provide better cover for your Full back than Chuks.
But Chuks got the magic feet of crazy attacking intents and ability to create something outta nothing. He offers average or below average when it comes to covering your fullback.

Going forward... I feel Chukwueze's attacking madness will take us further and get us out of holes much more comfortably than Simon's approach of more workrate in defence than creativity in attack.



Now.... End this talk... I will tolerate no escalation of the matter. Both players are loved by me and I see their importance based on tactical set ups and team approaches and ultimately Team goals.


This is what a rising golden generation should like like!!! The competition is great!

We are the Super Eagles.... And we are still Africa's most unpredictable team.

My analyses are not about Simon and Chukwueze's comparison but about the tactics that won us the game.

I don't know where you read about that from me. It was you who tried to bring it up but I dodge am.

TheSuperNerd:



Lol... That's basically our front three naa.... Haba!

How Humility go want make all of them out naa.... No naa... I think it is only Ighalo he even bitterly wanted dropped... Egbon... You are funny ooo... take am easy naa... See as you just cancel out the whole front three just to pin it on Humility... Cool down ooo....

He can't deny it.

Oasis007:
''The question is easy to answer, you know when you have some offensive players like Oyongo, the left-back from Cameroon, who is coming forward all the time and you have an offensive strong player like Chukwueze but defensively not so good like Simon Moses, who plays in his club a more defensive position because they play 3-5-2.

''He's playing on the right or the left side, so we decided to start like this to have stability in the team and to bring in Chukwueze in the good moment. He came in after 16 minutes in the second half.

'"I don't believe that it changed the result but it helped us to win and to score the two goals.''

- Gernot Rohr

Cc ChrisKels, SuperNerd, Humility017, Forgiveness, Charlesemeka85.

The last statement says it all. EOD

Madagascar Vs Congo

I have got MADG for the win

ChrisKels:


From the first paragraph, what was needed to stop Onyongo from coming forward was a daring winger not a defensive one. Chuks came in and Onyongo stopped the forward movements, the the threat Onyongo was posing got nullified instantly. With a defensive winger, Onyongo was always in our own half hence, taking the fight to our dormot, but Chucks came in, and sent him back to his own half, and that gave us the Victory. KPOM

The coach of the year.

U need to see the video of our boys swimming after the match. Choi Ighalo can swim sha



U also need to see the Benin dressing room celebration. Na only yoruba songs dem dey sing. Ose, Ose ooo, Ose ooo, Ose baba...!!!

Oasis007:


He wasn't off Bruh!

He was clearly off.

komekn:


The way objectivity and rational are thrown to the dogs anytime a favoured player is mentioned, has become a trend here.

And we begin to give accolades for nothing.

And when you don't join the emotive hallelujah praise singers for thier favoured player you are labelled a HATER.

Say the truth whenever you have the opportunity to do that. It will set you free.

forgiveness:



The coach of the year.

Lol yeye man. Go carry ur brothers from Benin come back here for us abeg. That Allagbe boy go be a great addition

Starboytwo:
And you people should try not to paint one player bad to praise another.....I didn't see a bad player yesterday, well except for the 2 goals which I would blame omeruo for...

Simon Moses has been one of our strongest performer in this Afcon, saying anything contrary is blasphemous....he has continually put up a very brave defensive display for the Super Eagles, I don't know if any of you guys ever play football, but if you wanna know how valuable Simon is, kindly call awaziem and ask him about Simon.....that guy is any right backs dream.....

But like I said yesterday, in that match, we don't need to defend much and as such chukwueze was clearly needed, infact if it was onyekuru that came on, we would have still scored because that Cameroon team was not a team to DEFEND against but ATTACK at every opportunity....

Moses Simon great game, Peter Etebo great game, all the super eagles players gave a great fight yesterday....I had a good night sleep....unto South Africa....

You are right on point. Gbam.

EEGA:
How come Ighalo and Musa were free from their markers after his introduction?

For real? Do you really belive he freed up Musa and Odion? How did he manage to do that? How many successful dribbles did he complete that caused Musa and Odion to be free? Odion tried to be in the box at all times, what does Chukwueze have to do with that?

My last question, how could Chukwueze have freed up Musa who was operating on the opposite flank?
How is that even possible judging by the geometry and size of a normal pitch?

ChrisKels:


Hahahahaha mumu human being, when be ur POP bro, abi u done already. Otondo

2 months time ...over here where I'm serving , we say Insha Allah

this Madagascar na werey o, they wan wound drc today, see shot o

somehow:
So why are some people expecting us to use fast players against South Africa when we know they are the king of fast play/counter account in this tourney?

They play a lot of counter-attacking football, they pass a lot too and knows how to locate each other. They make few passing mistakes if anyone notice. so I think a 4:4:2 should be used against them. We also need ball holders (Which I doubt we have), so if we can't have a ball holder, can we as well let them have most of the ball so as to stop them from their counter-attacking tactic? You only use counter if you have less of the ball.

Just saying and I am opened to further disecting of these points.

That is exactly what Rohr will do.

Humility017:


yea he kept them busy and disorganized their plans....

who knows had it been he was not introduced even if we score... the Cameroonians would have pressured our defense and with their skill they would have gotten a goal.
so the lad did a thorough job...

ighalo also should be commended... he came to party yesterday.

Ighalo was on beast mode yesterday.

Well deserved MOTM performance.

But, can't help thinking he wasted a hat trick when he left a gaping open net to play the ball straight at Onana with the match 3-2. He costed Chukwueze an assist and himself, a hat trick.
He needs to be more clinical. Such misses could yet again prove fatal like they did in 2018 World Cup against Russia.

Can we get this Dutch female Goalkeeper to stand inbetween the poles come Wednesday. She has been awesome with 4 terrific saves. I think she'll do better than any of our 3 Goalkeepers.

Goke7:
this Madagascar na werey o, they wan wound drc today, see shot o

They're already dealing with DRC 1-0 already

forgiveness:



The last statement says it all. EOD

"I don't believe that it changed the result but it helped us to win and to score the two goals. ''

The bolded is the koko. Helping u get the win or score the two goals that gave u the win is equal to changing the result, bkus the two goals changed the result from 2-1 to 2-3.

Rohr no dey contradict urself just to appear fair

Better luck next time, my good man, sir Forgiveness

Starboytwo:
And you people should try not to paint one player bad to praise another.....I didn't see a bad player yesterday, well except for the 2 goals which I would blame omeruo for...

Simon Moses has been one of our strongest performer in this Afcon, saying anything contrary is blasphemous....he has continually put up a very brave defensive display for the Super Eagles, I don't know if any of you guys ever play football, but if you wanna know how valuable Simon is, kindly call awaziem and ask him about Simon.....that guy is any right backs dream.....

But like I said yesterday, in that match, we don't need to defend much and as such chukwueze was clearly needed, infact if it was onyekuru that came on, we would have still scored because that Cameroon team was not a team to DEFEND against but ATTACK at every opportunity....

Moses Simon great game, Peter Etebo great game, all the super eagles players gave a great fight yesterday....I had a good night sleep....unto South Africa....

Simon Moses was pants yesterday.
Likewise Omeruo.
Moses offerred nothing at all going forward, it meant that Cameroon full backs happily joined the attack to torment Nigeria full back on that wing, because they feared no threat from rigid, tepid and uninspiring Moses.

Let's start calling a spade a spade. Omeruo was culpable in the Cameroon second goal. Awareness was zero and was always panicking around the eighteen yard box, nearly scored an own goal.

People don't like telling themselves the truth, that's the problem of this place.
If Nigeria continue playing Moses, they will lose to SA. Moses defensive play doesn't stop the team from conceding, yet he offers next to nothing attacking wise.
Better unleash players who pose real attacking threat, best form of defense is always attack.
Moses is the type of player you bring on to see off a game you are winning. He shouldn't be starting if you want goals, which win matches.