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Atigba:
Go and carry out the assignment I gave to you and stop the argument.

What is your age sef

You didn't give any "assignment".

I replied each and every single one of all your ignorant and unsubstantiated claims and I replied them in full.

I am yet to see any claim which you made that I have not crushed. Lol



And on your question of what my age is:

I am quite shocked as to how you think that would help you provide even one shred of evidence to back up even one of your numerous unsubstantiated claims.

TAO11:
In response to you ignorant and unsubstantiated claim that "Edo people has [sic] nothing to do the with Ife except ...":

An ancient Edo tradition on the origin of the Edos found in S. B Omoreige's "Edo History" --- an unpublished typescript publicized c. 1970 --- claims with a flow chart that:


Oghene (God) created Iso (Sky), Ason (Night), and Avan (Day), and that from Iso(Sky) descended: Ame (Water) and Oto (Earth).

The flow chart continues to claim that:

Uzon (i.e. the Ijaw people) descended from Ame (Water), and that from Oto (Earth) descended: Igbon (i.e.the Igbo people), Idu (i.e. the Edo people), and Olukumi (i.e. the Ile-Ife people).


This ancient Edo tradition clearly shows the common ancestry of the Igbos, the Edos, and the Yorubas according to the Edos themselves.

[Refer to: Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, 2003, p. 312. ]



Another ancient Edo tradition of their origin (known as "Iso Norho" or the myth of the pouring sky) adds more details to the foregoing as follows:


Uhe (Ile-Ife) was (originally) occupied by Olukumi (Yoruba), Idu (Edo), Igbon (Igbo), and Izon (Ijaw).


It stated that Oto (Earth) had committed incest and as a result Iso (Sky) issued Ame (Flood) as punishment for the act.


Oghene (God) is then said to have come to the rescue because he "did not want the children to suffer undue hardship."


Oghene (God) is said to have "By means of a chain ... poured sand on the flood water to form dry land for their habitation."


After Idu's death, his children (Akka, Efa, and Emehi) are all said to have "to migrate from Uhe to the present site of Benin City --- then called Ubini --- where they displaced a group of original settlers Ivbirinwineko ("dwarfs from the spirit world" )."

[Refer to: Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, 2003, pp. 312 - 313. see also: Michael Crowder: The Story of Nigeria, pp 63. ]



It is seen very clearly from the foregoing Edo tradition of origin that not only do the Edos share common ancestry with the Yorubas, they both originally inhabited Ile-Ife alongside the Igbos and the Ijaws before they (i.e. the Edos), the Igbos, and the Ijaws later obviously resettled. -

Notice that this is according to two different tradition of origin of the Edos themselves.


The foregoing tradition of origin of the Edos is also somewhat corroborated and augmented by more solid historical documentation in the works of experts like Amaury Talbot, J. U. Egharevba, Dmitri M. Bondarenko among others.


I hope you now agree with your own tradition on your origin. Lol

Lol you went and copy past..


I dont know what your problem is, as I said before

I am not here for tribal superiority, my job here is to united the children of Igodomigodo worldwide which I just discovered you are one of them.


The rubbish you past up there, I acknowledged the Yorubas started writing before us. Hence, a yoruba man coded our language. Not only us but also Igbo and most of the tribes in the south south.

There might be a word he didn't understand so he used yoruba words to replaced it, that doesn't mean we have anything in common.

Like I said, the only thing we have in common with the yorubas is the guy oduduwa who conquered them, his descendants came into our land around 12 century and conquered part of our land called Ille binu.

We dont share the same culture, we dont eat the same food nothing, I dont hate the Yorubas but that is the plain truth.

For superiority, I dont need to deep into history, go and ask your people how they got to South America and Europe.

We were selling you people as slaves.

Atigba:
Lol you went and copy past..


I dont know what your problem is, as I said before

I am not here for tribal superiority, my job here is to united the children of Igodomigodo worldwide which I just discovered you are one of them.


The rubbish you past up there, I acknowledged the Yorubas started writing before us. Hence, a yoruba man coded our language. Not only us but also Igbo and most of the tribes in the south south.

There might be a word he didn't understand so he used yoruba words to replaced it, that doesn't mean we have anything in common.

Like I said, the only thing we have in common with the yorubas is the guy oduduwa who conquered them, his descendants came into our land around 12 century and conquered part of our land called Ille binu.

We dont share the same culture, we dont eat the same food nothing, I dont hate the Yorubas but that is the plain truth.

For superiority, I dont need to deep into history, go and ask your people how they got to South America and Europe.

We were selling you people as slaves.

You keep proving me right again and again that you're very ignorant.

S. B. Omoreige whose account I have related above is an Edo historian.

Not only that, he is the first Edo historian to ingeniously come up with the "apocryphal" account of how a certain prince Ekaladerhan miraculously made his way to become king in Ife after been banished from Igodomigido.

So, please tell me more about how Omoreige is a liar.


Regarding every other claim you made above, please remember to recognize the difference between making a claim and proving it.

Hence, bring forward your proof.

MoneyMan5:
According to Olugbo of Ugbo himself even Oba Erediuwa said Oduduwa was from Eastern part of Ile Ife in his memoirs

Olugbo of Ugbo himself also said Oduduwa was from Eastern part of Ile Ife

Olugbo is right and Oba of Benin was also right.

Atigba:
I'm not just any body here, my ancestors sent me here to do some work. I will start soon, you can follow me because you are one of Igodomigodo descendant.

Your comment here is clearly one of a psychiatric patient battling delusion of grandeur

Please seek help very urgently!

My comment here should serve as the first step to your finding help.

TAO11:
You keep proving me right again and again that you're very ignorant.

S. B. Omoreige whose account I have related above is an Edo historian.

Not only that, he is the first Edo historian to ingeniously come up with the "apocryphal" account of how a certain prince Ekaladerhan miraculously made his way to became king in Ife after been banished from Igodomigido.

So, please tell me more about how Omoreige is a liar.

Omoreige is liar?

Yes he is, there is no prince called Ekaladerhan banished in our land that went to found Ife. Oduduwa is not from our land, he is from Mecca and I have explained that already here.

The fraudulent history he wrote ordered by Oba Erediawa for supremacy reason. I am a direct descendant of Ogiso, I know my history more than those Orominyan descendants.

This is the primary reason why am here to expose some deep truth overtime as I gather my Igodomigodo children.



S. B. Omoreige is not the first historian of our land, Jacob Egbarevba is the first historian. He published the short history of Benin in 1935. In that book there is nothing like Ekallerdahan there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_U._Egharevba

Atigba:
Omoreige is liar?

Yes he is, there is no prince called Ekaladerhan banished in our land that went to found Ife. Oduduwa is not from our land, he is from Mecca and I have explained that already here.

The fraudulent history he wrote ordered by Oba Erediawa for supremacy reason. I am a direct descendant of Ogiso, I know my history more than those Orominyan descendants.

This is the primary reason why am here to expose some deep truth overtime as I gather my Igodomigodo children.



S. B. Omoreige is not the first historian of our land, Jacob Egbarevba is the first historian. He published the short history of Benin in 1935. In that book there is nothing like Ekallerdahan there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_U._Egharevba

Please point out where I said Omoregie is THE FIRST HISTORIAN OF YOUR LAND. Lol


I will help you because I had said Omoregie is:

"The first Edo historian to ingeniously come up with the "apocryphal" account of how a certain prince Ekaladerhan miraculously made his way to became king in Ife after been banished from Igodomigido."

Prior to Omoregie (c. 1970) such an account was unheard of in Benin kingdom and in the world.


So, now that you've called Omoregie a liar, are you then prepared to reject his account which states that an Edo prince banished from Igodomigodo went to become king in Ile-Ife??



You obviously know nothing!


Now that you've aligned and identified with Egharevba (instead of Omoregie), are you then prepared to accept Egharevba's account (the first ever Edo account) which says that:

"... Ekaladerhan refuse to leave Ughoton where he eventually DIED"

see: J. U. Egharevba, A Short History of Benin, 1968, pp. 2-3.

CITED IN

"The Origin of Eweka Dynasty: A Study in the Use and Abuse of Oral Traditions", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol. 8, No. 3. (1976), pp 22.


Are you then prepared to accept Egharevba's account that a son of Oduduwa named OBAGODO was the founder of IGODOMIGODO land where he took the title OGISO??

The following are Chief Egharevbas precise words:


"Many, many years ago, Odua ["Oduduwa"] of Uhe ["Ile-Ife"] the father and progenitor of the Yoruba kings sent his eldest son Obagodo --- who took the title of Ogiso --- with a large retinue all the way from Uhe to found a Kingdom in this part of the world."

see: J. U. Egharevba: A Short History of Benin,1936 (1st ed.: Lagos), pp. 7.



Are you prepared to accept Egharevba's account that:

"The head of the royal corpse was subsequently exhumed and taken to the royal ancestral grave at Ile-Ife for burial: but this was only done in every third reign"

see: J. U. Egharevba, Benin Law and Custom, (CMS Nigeria Press, Port Harcourt, 1946), p. 72

CITED IN

"The Origin of Eweka Dynasty: A Study in the Use and Abuse of Oral Traditions", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol. 8, No. 3. (1976), pp 32.


It appears that whoever and wherever you run towards between Omiregie's tradition of the ancient Edos and Egharevba's historical account; you can't escape the obvious fact that:


The autochthonous EDOS (from the Ogisos days) are originally from Uhe (Ile-Ife).

TAO11:
Please point out where I said Omoregie is THE FIRST HISTORIAN OF YOUR LAND.

I said Omoregie is the first

You read my message again, I said Jacob is the first historian of our land. If there was anything like Ekallerdahan he would have stated it in many of his publications, which Oba Eradiawa later destroyed his works.

Omoregie is a fraud

Teeisaac:
D one in LAUTECH logo

Good one

Though dem suppose change that book to keyboard

Atigba:
You read my message again, I said Jacob is the first historian of our land. If there was anything like Ekallerdahan he would have stated it in many of his publications, which Oba Eradiawa later destroyed his works.

Omoregie is a fraud

This one obviously doesn't know what he is doing. Lol

Pay attention and let me then educate you:

Benin history states that a certain prince Ekaladerhan was banished from Benin (then Igodomigodo) to Ughoton.

All Bini historians including Egharevba (1934) and the redactionist Omoregie (c. 1970), as well as those who came after them all agree with that.

The difference between Egharevba (the first Edo historian) and all those who came after him from Omoregie onward is that:

While Egharveba mentions clearly that no Benin prince became king in Ife, other Binis starting from Omoregie (c. 1970) all insist that prince Ekalderhan after being banished to Ughoton later found his way to Ile-Ife to become king Oduduwa there.

So, now think again: who is the liar and fraud?

Chief Egharevba who states clearly that prince Ekaladerhan did not leave Ughoton where he died OR S. B. Omoregie et al (including your Oba Erediauwa who all later relied on Omoregie's revision) who insist without citing their informants that the Bini prince became king Oduduwa in Ife.


Ignorance and arrogance is the cause of your present self inflicted injury.

Lol

TAO11:
This one obviously does not know what he is doing. L

Pay attention and let me then educate you:

Benin history states that a certain prince Ekaladerhan was banished from Benin (then Igodomigodo) to Ughoton.

All Bini historians including Egharevba (1933) and the redactionist Omoregie (c. 1970), as well as those who came after them all agree with that.

The difference between Egharevba (the first Edo historian) and all those who cane after him from Omoregie till date is that:

While Egharveba mentions clearly that no Benin prince became king in Ife, other Binis starting from Omoregie (1970) all insist that prince Ekalderhan after being banished to Ughiton later found his way to Ile-Ife to become king Oduduwa there.

So, now think again: who us the liar and fraud?

Chief Egharevba who states clearly that prince Ekaladerhan did not leave Ughoton where he died OR S. B. Omoregie et al. who insist that the Bini prince became king Oduduwa in Ife.


Ignorance and arrogance is the cause of your present self influcted injury.

Lol

Which book did Egharevba state that Ekaladerhan was banished from our land?

Atigba:
Which book did Egharevba state that Ekaladerhan was banished from our land?

You weren't paying attention because I already cited it.

I will cite it again though because you've obviously become quite humble.

see: J. U. Egharevba, A Short History of Benin, 1968. as well as every other English edition of the original 1933 Edo work: Ekhere Vb Itan Edo

TAO11:
You weren't paying attention because I already cited it.

I will cite it again though because you've obviously become quite humble.

see: J. U. Egharevba, A Short History of Benin, 1968. as well as every other English edition of the original 1933 Edo work: Ekhere Vb Itan Edo

You are bloody liar

I have all his books here with me snap the page and show me where he said we banished a prince who went to found ife

Atigba:
You are bloody liar

I have all his books here with me snap the page and show me where he said we banished a prince who went to found ife

Hahahahaha!!!

You appear very defeated with your lie and frustration.

Anyways I am always here to school you.

First, nowhere did I state to you that Egheravba writes that the banished prince went to found Ife.


For the sake of relieving your confusion, what I wrote was that Egharevba notes in his works that the Prince was banished from Benin (then Igodomigodo) to Ughoton.


I added that (unlike others like Omoregie and Oba Erediauwa who said that the banished prince later went to become king Odudduwa in Ife), Egharevba notes in his works that Ekaladerhan did not leave Ughoton at all because he later died there.

[I am assuming you can read English].


Regarding the evidence for whether or not Egharevba really stated that the Prince Ekaladerhan was truly banished from Benin to Ughoton; see quote and screenshot below:


"... His only heir, Ekaladerhan, who would have succeeded him had earlier been exiled to Ughoton ..."

see: J. U. Egharevba A Short History of Benin, (1968). cited in "The Origin of Eweka Dynasty", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria pp. 22 -23.

Atigba:
You are bloody liar

I have all his books here with me snap the page and show me where he said we banished a prince who went to found ife

Having provided you with pictures as you requested, lol; could you then cite ANY page from ANY of Egharevba's works where he says otherwise??

That is, where he says prince Ekaladerhan was NEVER banished from Benin (Igodomigodo)

Lol!



NB:
I knew you were lying. You have no books as you claimed. Otherwise, meet my challenge above.

Lol

TAO11:
Hahahahaha!!!

You appear very defeated with your lie and frustration.

Anyways I am always here to school you.

First no where did I st to you that Egheravba writes that the banished prince went to found Ife.


For the sake of relieving your confusion, what I wrote was that Egharevba notes in his works that the Prince was banished from Benin (then Igodomigodo) to Ughoton.

I added that (unlike others like Omoregie and Oba Erediauwa who said the banished prince later went to become king Odudduwa in Ife), Egharevba notes in his works that Ekaladerhan didn't leave Ughoton at all because he later died there.

[I am assuming you can read English].


For the evidence of whether or not Egharevba really stated that the Prince Ekaladerhan was truly banished from Benin to Ughoton; see quote and screenshot below:

"... His only heir, Ekaladerhan, who would have succeeded him had earlier been exiled to Ughoton ..."

see: J. U. Egharevba A Short History of Benin, (1968). cited in "The Origin of Eweka Dynasty", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria pp. 22 -23.

There is no name called Ekallerdahan in our land.

It is a fictitious character invented by Eradiawa, the only guy that was banished in our land to Ughoton is Ogiso Awodo. Who they are fraudulently claiming is the father of Ekelerdahan.

Ogiso Awodo died childless, the reason we banished him to Ughoton is because he executed a pregnant woman. We later called him back.

Ughoton is the ancestral home of the Urhobos, they took him in, Urhobos is one of our clam.

TAO11:
Hahahahaha!!!

You appear very defeated with your lie and frustration.

Anyways I am always here to school you.

First, nowhere did I state to you that Egheravba writes that the banished prince went to found Ife.


For the sake of relieving your confusion, what I wrote was that Egharevba notes in his works that the Prince was banished from Benin (then Igodomigodo) to Ughoton.


I added that (unlike others like Omoregie and Oba Erediauwa who said that the banished prince later went to become king Odudduwa in Ife), Egharevba notes in his works that Ekaladerhan did not leave Ughoton at all because he later died there.

[I am assuming you can read English].


Regarding the evidence for whether or not Egharevba really stated that the Prince Ekaladerhan was truly banished from Benin to Ughoton; see quote and screenshot below:


"... His only heir, Ekaladerhan, who would have succeeded him had earlier been exiled to Ughoton ..."

see: J. U. Egharevba A Short History of Benin, (1968). cited in "The Origin of Eweka Dynasty", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria pp. 22 -23.

You are a fraud, show me Egharevba book where he assert that Ekallerdahan is our prince.

You are showing me rubbish writing by a Yoruba man AKINOLA.

I have all his books here with me, show me

Snap the page in Egharevba book and show me

Atigba:
There is no name called Ekallerdahan in our land.

It is a fictitious character invented by Eradiawa, the only guy that was banished in our land to Ughoton is Ogiso Awodo. Who they are fraudulently claiming is the father of Ekelerdahan.

Ogiso Awodo died childless, the reason we banished him to Ughoton is because he executed a pregnant woman. We later called him back.

Ughoton is the ancestral home of the Urhobos, they took him in, Urhobos is one of our clam.

I have said it earlier that you're the personification of "JOKE"


**You indicated that it is Egharevba whose account you trust instead of Omoregie. Lol.


**And upon citing you Egharevba (the earliest Edo historian) as you requested (even in picture form), you've made a sharp u-turn to impliedly call even your beloved Egarevba a liar.


**I have cited you S. B. Omoregie's Edo History (c. 1970)


**I have mentioned to you Omo N'Oba Erediauwa.

While you cited ZERO evidence, you insist they are all wrong, and that it is your own personal wishful thinking which is right.


**I guess E. Akenzua's "Benin Was Never a Republic (1971)" is also wrong and you are right.


**I guess D. U. Edebiri's "Whence the Igodomigodos' (1970)" is also wrong and you are right.


**I guess A. Iyare's "Bini, Ife Dynasties: The True Focus on Our Historical Past (1973)" is also wrong and you are right.


**I guess all other innumerable Edo writers on Bini history are all wrong (on their UNANIMITY that prince Ekaladerhan of Igodomigodo was exiled from Benin to Ughoton) and you are right.




Moreover, your face-saving false unsubstantiated claim that Ekaladerhan was invented by Omo N'Oba Erediauwa is also not helpful to your cause because the claim is absurd.


Omo N'Oba Erediauwa's first known pronouncement on Bini history was during his coronation of 1978-9, and his first publication on Benin history was in 2004.

How then could he have invented a name and a story which is present in prior works of Egharevba (1934), Omoregie (c. 1970), Edebiri (1970), Akenzua (1971), and Iyare (1973)??

Again, you're a JOKE.

TAO11:
I have said it earlier that you're the personification of "JOKE"


**You indicated that it is Egharevba whose account you trust instead of Omoregie. Lol.


**And upon citing you Egharevba (the earliest Edo historian) as you requested (even in picture form), you've made a sharp you turn to implied by call even your beloved Egarevba a liar.


**I have cited you S. B. Omoregie's Edo History (c. 1970)


**I have mentioned to you Omo N'Oba Erediauwa.

While you cited ZERO evidence, you insist they are all wrong, and that it is your own personal wishful thinking which is right.


**I guess E. Akenzua's "Benin Was Never a Republic (1971)" is also wrong and you are right.


**I guess D. U. Edebiri's "Whence the Igodomigodos' (1970)" is also wrong and you are right.


**I guess A. Iyare's "Bini, Ife Dynasties: The Tre Focus on Our Historical Past (1973)" is also wrong and you are right.


**I guess all other innumerable Edo writers on Bini history are all wrong (on their UNANIMITY that prince Ekaladerhan of Igodomigodo was exiled from Benin to Ughoton) and you are right.




Moreover, your face-saving false unsubstantiated claim that Ekaladerhan was invented by Omo N'Oba Erediauwa is also not helpful to your cause becauSe the claim is absurd.


Omo N'Oba first known pronouncement on Bini history was during his coronation of 1978-9 and his first publication on Benin history was in 2004.

How then could he have invented a name and a story present in prior works of Egharevba (1934), Omoregie (c. 1970), Edebiri (1970), Akenzua (1971), and Iyare (1973)??

Again, you're a JOKE.

You only wrote a super story that Egharevba mentioned Ekallerdahan prince banished in our land and I told there was no body like that banished in our land except Ogiso Awodo who executed a pregnant woman.

You went and cite a yoruba man history book instead of Egharevba original source.

Atigba:
You are a fraud, show me Egharevba book where he assert that Ekallerdahan is our prince.

You are showing me rubbish writing by a Yoruba man AKINOLA.

I have all his books here with me, show me

Snap the page in Egharevba book and show me

Hahahaha!


I am proud of myself that I'm already making somebody work hard.


I am also a Yoruba in case you've forgotten.


If I snap you a picture of Egharevba's book, why would you accept it if you won't accept it from another Yoruba (i.e. Akinola)??


To educate you, the work namely: "The Origin of Eweka Dynasty" which cited J. U. Egharevba is not a one-man-show book, rather it is an academic peer-reviewed journal article published in the The Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria


Nigerian historians are all foolish and wrong, while the unknown Atigbo who claims to be an Accounting academic is wise and correct.

I have mentioned something to you earlier about Delusion of Grandeur

Atigba:
You only wrote a super story that Egharevba mentioned Ekallerdahan prince banished in our land and I told there was no body like that banished in our land except Ogiso Awodo who executed a pregnant woman.

You went and cite a yoruba man history book instead of Egharevba original source.

Hello!!!

That is not A BOOK!

That is an academic peer reviewed journal article published in the Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria and which cites Egharevba.


Do you even know the difference between a Book and a Journal article??

Atigba:
You only wrote a super story that Egharevba mentioned Ekallerdahan prince banished in our land and I told there was no body like that banished in our land except Ogiso Awodo who executed a pregnant woman.

You went and cite a yoruba man history book instead of Egharevba original source.

Moreover, while all these is going on, please be constantly reminded that you have not cited even one single shred of reference to buttress any of your innumerable claims.

TAO11:
Hahahaha!


I am proud of myself that I'm already making somebody work hard.


I am also a Yoruba man in case you've forgotten.


If I snap you a picture of Egharevba's book, why would you accept it if you won't accept it from another Yoruba man (i.e. Akinola)??


To educate you, the work namely: "The Origin of Eweka Dynasty" which cited J. U. Egharevba[/i] is not a one-man-show book, rather it is an academic peer-reviewed journal article published in the [b]The Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria


Nigerian historians are all foolish and the unknown Atigbo is wise and correct.

I have mentioned something to you earlier about Delusion of Grandeur

I am ogiso, you yoruba cannot be telling something you know nothing about. There is no character called Ekaladerhan in our family. The last Ogiso they claimed gave birth to him was childless.

How can a man who died childless give birth to someone. Ekelerdahan dont even have meaning in my language. May be you should tell me the meaning

Atigba:
I am ogiso, you yoruba cannot be telling something you know nothing about. There is no character called Ekaladerhan in our family. The last Ogiso they claimed gave birth to him was childless.

How can a man who died childless give birth to someone. Ekelerdahan dont even have meaning in my language. May be you should tell me the meaning

I guess you're starting to heed my advice that you should CITE your references.

So, who are the "THEY" in your comment here?

Mention these authoritative sources and let's quickly verify your claims.

Atigba:
I am ogiso, you yoruba cannot be telling something you know nothing about. There is no character called Ekaladerhan in our family. The last Ogiso they claimed gave birth to him was childless.

How can a man who died childless give birth to someone. Ekelerdahan dont even have meaning in my language. May be you should tell me the meaning

And that reminds me:

Since you have all of J. U. Egharevba's work, why not quickly do a snapshot of the pages where Egharevba said that Ogiso Owodo had no heir. Lol!


If you do that, this debate would quickly be settled in you favour and you would have educated someone like me among several other. Lol

In fact, doing that would mean that YOU would be proven RIGHT

While ALL THE NIGERIA HISTORIANS who peer-reviewed the journal article I referenced earlier (which "lied" on Egharevba) would have been proven WRONG.

I'm waiting.

Yes you can do this.

TAO11:
I guess you're starting to need my advice that you should CITE your references.

So, who are the "THEY" in your comment here?

Mention these authoritative sources and let's quickly verify your claims.

The reason why am using they is because there are things many people dont understand about us.

In benin city there are two countries in benin city. The Oba dynasty which is Orominyan descendants and Ogiso dynasty which is Igodomigodo descendants.

The people on the other side Oba dynasty is telling Ogiso dynasty their history they have no knowledge about. They arrived in our land 12 century ago and the events happened before they arrived.

Not only that, they are even telling the Ife people where they came from their own history.

Can a child tell his father where he comes from. No


We the Ogisos knows our history, the fraudulent history the Oba dynasty in Benin is propagating has been rejected by the Oni of Ife.

We the Ogisos reject the same history. They are the only one in between.

Atigba:
The reason why am using they is because there are things many people dont understand about us.

In benin city there are two countries in benin city. The Oba dynasty which is Orominyan descendants and Ogiso dynasty which is Igodomigodo descendants.

The people on the other side Oba dynasty is telling Ogiso dynasty their history they have no knowledge about. Not only that, they are even telling the Ife people where they came from their own history.

Can a child tell his father where he comes from. No


We the Ogisos knows our history, the fraudulent history the Oba dynasty in Benin is propagating has been rejected by the Oni of Ife.

We the Ogisos reject the same history. They are the only one in between.

Don't stress yourself explaining the REASON WHY YOU USED "THEY".

Just tell us WHO THE "THEY" are. Lol

Are these "THEY" everyday people like yourself??

Are these "THEY" every Tom, Dick and Harry like yourself, or are they well-known and recognized historians whose statements are verifiable??


Please tell us. Everyone is waiting to learn from you, Oh ye Ogiso. Lol

Tell us and let's put Omo N'Oba Erdiauwa to shame as well as every other Edo writer to shame. Lol

TAO11:
And that reminds me:

Since you have all of J. U. Egharevba's work, why not quickly do a snapshot of the pages where Egharevba said that Ogiso Owodo had no heir. Lol!


If you do that, this debate would quickly be settled in you favour and you would have educated someone like me among several other. Lol

In fact, doing that would mean that YOU would be proven RIGHT

While ALL THE NIGERIA HISTORIANS who peer-reviewed the journal article I referenced earlier (which "lied" on Egharevba) would have been proven WRONG.

I'm waiting.

Yes you can do this.

Egharevba was a chief in Oba palace, a different dynasty.

TAO11:
Don't stress yourself explaining the REASON WHY YOU USED "THEY".

Just tell us WHO THE "THEY" are. Lol

Are these "THEY" everyday people like yourself??

Are these "THEY" every Tom, Dick and Harry like yourself, or are they well-known and recognized historians whose statements are verifiable??


Please tell us. Everyone is waiting to learn from you, Oh ye Ogiso. Lol

Tell us and let's put Omo N'Oba Erdiauwa to shame as well as every other Edo writer to shame. Lol

I have already mentioned names

Atigba:
Egharevba was a chief in Oba palace, a different dynasty.

But at least you recognize him as an historian in your own words and you mentioned that his books (ALL of which you claimed you have) states that:

Ogiso Owodo had no child.

Please share a picture of where he said that in his books which you claimed to have.


Doing that would mean case closed against me.

Thanks, I'm waiting.

TAO11:
But at least you recognize him as an historian in your own words and you mentioned that his books (ALL of which you claimed you have) states that:

Ogiso Owodo had no child.

Please share a picture of where he said that in his books which you claimed to have.


Doing that would mean case closed against me.

Thanks, I'm waiting.

Where did I mentioned Egharevba said Ogiso was childless?

Atigba:
I have already mentioned names

No you didn't.

All you said was that the Ogiso country and Ooni agree with what you're saying.

But I cant remember any VERIIABLE work published by the Ooni or published by the so-called OGISO COUNTRY claiming that:

Ogiso Owodo had no child.


But instead of even to as far as the Ooni and the so-called Ogiso country (which are clearly unverifiable), why not simply do what is easy??


And which is to take a picture of one of Egharavba's books (ALL of which you claimed you have with you) and then attach it here to show me and others where Egharevba says that:

Ogiso Owodo had no child.