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Atigba:
Where did I mentioned Egharevba said Ogiso was childless?

Did I just activate your denial mode?? Lol

I am set to show you, just a second.


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**I have been arguing to you that Ekaladerhan (son of Ogiso Owodo) was banished from Igodomigodo.


**I noted that Egharevba agrees with me, and I referenced a peer-reviewed academic article wherein Egharevba was cited to have noted same.


**You argued that Egharevba never claimed that, but that the last Ogiso Owodo was childless.

**You claimed to have all of Egharevba's books with which you can prove your point and disprove mine.


Considering the foregoing summary, is there anywhere I have misrepresented you that you have claimed to have evidence in Egharevba's books (ALL of which you claimed to have) that there was never any Ekaladerhan anywhere because the last Ogiso was childless to begin with??

Atigba:
Where did I mentioned Egharevba said Ogiso was childless?

In light of your claim that you have all of Egharevba's books with you, could you then do the needful and settle this exchange against me and in your favour.

Could you please attach the words of Egharevba from any of his books (all of which you claim to have) showing where he said or (at least) indicated that??:

**There wasn't anyone as Ekaladerhan at Igodomigodo palace at anytime.

**or where he said or (at least) indicated that : the last Ogiso (Ogiso Owodo) was childless.


Thank you! Lol

TAO11:
In light of your claim that you have all of Egharevba's books with you, could you then do the needful and settle this exchange against me and in your favour.

Could you please attach the words of Egharevba from any of his books (all of which you claim to have) showing where he said or (at least) indicated that??:

**There wasn't anyone as Ekaladerhan at Igodomigodo palace at anytime.

**or where he said or (at least) indicated that : the last Ogiso (Ogiso Owodo) was childless.


Thank you! Lol

So you couldn't find where I assert Egharevba said our last Ogiso was childless.

You are the one claiming that Egharevba said Ekallerdahan was banished to Ughoton and another scholar said he traveled from there to set up Ife.

You have not been able to prove it from original source, rather you went to a book written by a yoruba man Akintola to cite it.

The road from Ughoton lead to Ughelli in Delta State. How does it lead to Ife.

So I should take what one idiot wrote in a book just because it was published. You must be mad

TAO11:
In light of your claim that you have all of Egharevba's books with you, could you then do the needful and settle this exchange against me and in your favour.

Could you please attach the words of Egharevba from any of his books (all of which you claim to have) showing where he said or (at least) indicated that??:

**There wasn't anyone as Ekaladerhan at Igodomigodo palace at anytime.

**or where he said or (at least) indicated that : the last Ogiso (Ogiso Owodo) was childless.


Thank you! Lol

Omoluabi I really appreciate you taking that ignorant hallucinogenic boy to the cleaners.
While I appreciate your knowledge and more importantly your logic, I think it's not worth it arguing with a lad who does not know what a peer reviewed journal article is. The òdè thinks you just produce a journal article from your hat at will. He his a disgrace to the great and proud Edo tribe.
I will still beg you to continue the enlightenment for people like us with the basic ability to learn, reason and draw logical conclusions.
Eledumare a gbe e ooo, A gbe gbogbo awa Omo Yoruba nile loko.

P.s: I will like to buy you a drink.�

2fine2fast:
Omoluabi I really appreciate you taking that ignorant hallucinogenic boy to the cleaners.
While I appreciate your knowledge and more importantly your logic, I think it's not worth it arguing with a lad who does not know what a peer reviewed journal article is. The òdè thinks you just produce a journal article from your hat at will. He his a disgrace to the great and proud Edo tribe.
I will still beg you to continue the enlightenment for people like us with the basic ability to learn, reason and draw logical conclusions.
Eledumare a gbe e ooo, A gbe gbogbo awa Omo Yoruba nile loko.

P.s: I will like to buy you a drink.�

I am still waiting for her to answer me how Ekerladehan went to Ife from the land of Igodomigodo. 


Ughoton lead to Ughelli in Delta State. The Ekerladehan they are claiming turned Oduduwa in Ife; Oduduwa brought 201 deities to Ife. No single one of them is from Igodomigodo, as a matter of fact we dont have idols in our lan. Non of our culture can be traced to Ife. As am told Oduduwa came with a horse and wear cloths to Ife. We do not have horse in the land of Igodomigodo and cloths as at then.


Oduduwa brought booze casting to Ife, while brooze casting got to our land through Orominyan. She has already attest to that. We never had brooze in our land. 


How did Oduduwa left our land to set up Ife. The staff of office in our land is Eben, every where Ogiso children is located they always carried this symbol. Like the Obi of Onitsha, you can't  find it in Ife. 


Prove it to me how Ekerladehan set up Ife, outside some idiots writing rubbish.


Below is the picture of Oduduwa and our staff of office. 

Also Obi of Onitsha holding it, if you dont have this in Ife, we have no business with you people

Atigba:
So you couldn't find where I assert Egharevba said our last Ogiso was childless.

You are the one claiming that Egharevba said Ekallerdahan was banished to Ughoton and another scholar said he traveled from there to set up Ife.

You have not been able to prove it from original source, rather you went to a book written by a yoruba man Akintola to cite it.

The road from Ughoton lead to Ughelli in Delta State. How does it lead to Ife.

So I should take what one idiot wrote in a book just because it was published. You must be mad

Firstly, I noticed that I eventually got you angry! I am deeply sorry about that.


Having activated your anger mode as well as your denial mode with my rebuttals and questions;

let me now ask what your counter-claim to my claim was (if indeed it is not what you've denied above).


Remember you LIED that you have all of Egharevba's books from which you can prove your counter-claim to my own claim that:

**There was indeed a prince Ekaladerhan (son of Ogiso Owodo).

**And he was exiled.



Secondly, you keep conflating books with journal articles.


A book is written and published by every Tom, Dick, and Harry; Expert or Non-expert; Agbero or Celebrity; King or Prisoner; Professor or Cook; etc.


On the other hand, an academic journal article (such as that which I referenced wherein J. U. Egharevba was cited) is:

**a professional work within academia, produced individually or jointly by academic expert(s);


**peer-reviewed by an enclave of academic experts (in this case historians from the Historical Society of Yorubaland NIGERIA);


**and published in the apex Academic Journal of History in Nigeria.


Don't you still get the difference between a book and a reputable peer-reviewed journal article??




Moreover, do you really mean that you trust whatever picture I (TAO 11) take and share from Egharevba's book; rather than trust the scrutiny and attestation of the Historical Society of Nigeria?? C'mon "Joke". Lol


Furthermore, I also do not agree with the Edo liars and revisionists who claim that the Prince Ekaladerhan found his way to Ile-Ife from Ughoton. I am not sure why you seemingly brought it up as a point against me.


And I should make it clear to you that you are evidently not worth the stress that I should reserve and then proceed to go pick-up a copy of Egharevba's book at my univeristy's library. No, you aren't worth it.


However, IF you can demonstrate clearly to me that you presently have with you a copy of J. U. Egharevba, A Short History of Benin, (1968) with which you will compare any picture I will attach here of the relevant pages of the book;


THEN I may consider reserving a copy of the book and then proceed to pick it up tomorrow for the purpose of attaching a picture of the relevant page(s) here.


But what is the point of you being willing to trust me; and yet being unwilling to trust the Historical Society of Nigeria??

Could it be that you are just being yourself; i.e., a "JOKE"??

2fine2fast:
Omoluabi I really appreciate you taking that ignorant hallucinogenic boy to the cleaners.
While I appreciate your knowledge and more importantly your logic, I think it's not worth it arguing with a lad who does not know what a peer reviewed journal article is. The òdè thinks you just produce a journal article from your hat at will. He his a disgrace to the great and proud Edo tribe.
I will still beg you to continue the enlightenment for people like us with the basic ability to learn, reason and draw logical conclusions.
Eledumare a gbe e ooo, A gbe gbogbo awa Omo Yoruba nile loko.

P.s: I will like to buy you a drink.�

Ashe!! Thanks for your prayers.

I understand very very well that he is just being willfully blind and dodgy.

I have accessed certain things about him which includes the fact that he is deluded. And I am not even kidding.

A key step to providing help to such people is to be consistent enough to make them first reject whatever delusion they've been clouded with.

That should come first before a medical procedure, I believe.

So, what I am doing to him is more than discussing history. It is also a psychiatric therapy for him.

I hope you get my motive

Atigba:
Lol you went and copy past..


I dont know what your problem is, as I said before

I am not here for tribal superiority, my job here is to united the children of Igodomigodo worldwide which I just discovered you are one of them.


The rubbish you past up there, I acknowledged the Yorubas started writing before us. Hence, a yoruba man coded our language. Not only us but also Igbo and most of the tribes in the south south.

There might be a word he didn't understand so he used yoruba words to replaced it, that doesn't mean we have anything in common.

Like I said, the only thing we have in common with the yorubas is the guy oduduwa who conquered them, his descendants came into our land around 12 century and conquered part of our land called Ille binu.

We dont share the same culture, we dont eat the same food nothing, I dont hate the Yorubas but that is the plain truth.

For superiority, I dont need to deep into history, go and ask your people how they got to South America and Europe.

We were selling you people as slaves.

Ignore that fake. He comes with different monikers after every defeat by superior argument. He is same as Olu.

Let them keep throwing jargons to their kids the fact remain that Ekhaladerhan is Oduduwa the father of Oramiyan and grabs father of Oba Eweka the first.

N.B: No Yoruba tribe EVER conquered any part of Benin or step foot in any part our land agreesively,we sent for our son(Ekalederhan aka Oduduwa) who refused to return and inturn send his son (Oramiyan).

TAO11:
Firstly, I noticed that I eventually got you angry! I am deeply sorry about that.


Having activated your anger mode as well as your denial mode with my rebuttals and questions;

let me now ask what your counter-claim to my claim was (if indeed it is not what you've denied above).


Remember you LIED that you have all of Egharevba's books from which you can prove your counter-claim to my own claim that:

**There was indeed a prince Ekaladerhan (son of Ogiso Owodo).

**And he was exiled.



Secondly, you keep conflating books with journal articles.


A book is written and published by every Tom, Dick, and Harry; Expert or Non-expert; Agbero or Celebrity; King or Prisoner; Professor or Cook; etc.


On the other hand, an academic journal article (such as that which I referenced wherein J. U. Egharevba was cited) is:

**a professional work within academia, produced individually or jointly by academic expert(s);


**peer-reviewed by an enclave of academic experts (in this case historians from the Historical Society of Yorubaland NIGERIA);


**and published in the apex Academic Journal of History in Nigeria.


Don't you still get the difference between a book and a reputable peer-reviewed journal article??




Moreover, do you really mean that you trust whatever picture I (TAO 11) take and share from Egharevba's book; rather than trust the scrutiny and attestation of the Historical Society of Nigeria?? C'mon "Joke". Lol


Furthermore, I also do not agree with the Edo liars and revisionists who claim that the Prince Ekaladerhan found his way to Ile-Ife from Ughoton. I am not sure why you seemingly brought it up as a point against me.


And I should make it clear to you that you are evidently not worth the stress that I should reserve and then proceed to go pick-up a copy of Egharevba's book at my univeristy's library. No, you aren't worth it.


However, IF you can demonstrate clearly to me that you presently have with you a copy of J. U. Egharevba, A Short History of Benin, (1968) with which you will compare any picture I will attach here of the relevant pages of the book;


THEN I may consider reserving a copy of the book and then proceed to pick it up tomorrow for the purpose of attaching a picture of the relevant page(s) here.


But what is the point of you being willing to trust me; and yet being unwilling to trust the Historical Society of Nigeria??

Could it be that you are just being yourself; i.e., a "JOKE"??

I think you have mental illness, this will be the last time I will reply you.

At first you claimed the Aworis has no link with the binis and i showed you the Oba of Lagos interview where he narrate the Aworis story and his relationships with the binis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/amp

You ran away from there and started claiming an exiled benin prince ruled Ife and established many kingdom in yoruba land. What an irony to see a yoruba person finally believed that story. You were defending it here, or you were just trolling. That means you dont stand for anything, you just want to argue. With this I will never take you serious here.

You started quoting peer reviewed journals and scholar to buttress your points. You were the first person that mentioned Egharevba write up here. I now challenged you to show me his work where he made such statements.
You went and showed me a secondary source, a book written by a yoruba Akintola.

Until you show me Egharevba original source, am done with you.

Bye and I will never show you Jacob's Egharevba books.

Atigba:
I think you have mental illness, this will be the last time I will reply you.

At first you claimed the Aworis has no link with the binis and i showed you the Oba of Lagos interview where he narrate the Aworis story and his relationships with the binis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/amp

You ran away from there and started claiming an exiled benin prince ruled Ife and established many kingdom in yoruba land. What an irony to see a yoruba person finally believed that story. You were defending it here, or you were just trolling. That means you dont stand for anything, you just want to argue. With this I will never take you serious here.

You started quoting peer reviewed journals and scholar to buttress your points. You were the first person that mentioned Egharevba write up here. I now challenged you to show me his work where he made such statements.
You went and showed me a secondary source, a book written by a yoruba Akintola.

Until you show me Egharevba original source, am done with you.

Bye and I will never show you Jacob's Egharevba books.

**First, I am very sorry once again for getting you angry with my refutations and questions.


**Second, regarding your link and reference to Oba Akiolu, I wouldn't need to run away. Lol!

What I did instead was to prove to you from a careful analysis of the text that the parts which deal with AWORI, etc. are (from a thematic and stylistic point of view) clearly and obviously not the words of Oba Akiolu; but rather the account and analysis of the Edo writer Gabriel Omohinmin. I showed that he deliberately and strategically blurred the delineation.

[Refer again to the analysis I had done earlier in that regard for details, more clarity, or a refresher]


I also demostrated that Oba Akiolu is not an Awori (to start with) and he never claimed to be an Awori.

In light of that, I asked why you even made an attempt, in the first place, to want to cite Oba Akiolu as an authority and expert on the Aworis, when he himself is not even an Awori (to start with), nor is he an expert/historian. And neither did he claim to be any of these.



**Third, I never claimed anywhere that any Bini prince ruled as king in Ile-Ife. I guess you're hallucinating sir.

Instead, I have consistently and repeatedly condemned such account as "apocryphal", and I have always condemned such writers (Omoregie, Edebiri, Akenzua, Iyare, Erediauwa, et al.) as liars and revisionists.

[I advice that you should invest some quality time into learning and appreciating written English]


** Fourth, regarding J. U. Egharevba, I have consistently and repeatedly maintained that he confirms that the Benin prince was banished from Benin to Ughoton.


But that he differed with the aforementioned revisionists in that, he added that the prince died in Ughoton, contrary to the foregoing revisionists who claimed that the prince made his way from Ughoton to Ife to become king.


And to substantiate my attribution to Egharevba in this particular regard, I have consistently and repeatedly made reference to his "A Short History of Benin (1968)" as cited in "The Origin of Eweka Dynasty" published in the Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria.


On seeing my reference, quotation and screenshots you obviously involuntarily tripped, unknowingly felt defeated, and uncontrollably lost your mind.


But you had to save-face after all that. Hence you irrationally and absurdly remarked to the effect that you would rather trust my own citation of Egharevba; rather than trust the Historical Society of Nigeria's citation of Egharevba on the same issue. Lol


Who really am I in the scheme of History, in comparison to the Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria?? God I thank you oo! Lol.


You are obviously very ashamed to make peace with reality because you think you have come too far to do that.


**Fifth, regarding your closing remark that you won't show me Egharevba's book, I'd say:


From a standpoint of pragmatic empiricism (i.e
considering the fact that you have NEVER cited even one shred of actual evidence to substantiate any of your numerous claims); I say without any shadow of doubt that:

Yes, you won't share any real excerpt from any book. You've never had any such history of sharing any real thing since we started.


You won't share any excerpt from any book because you obviously can't give what you don't have. You have no books. Lol.


And I have enough access to diverse academic resources which cites Egharevba. So, why should I wait on you to cite Egharevba on my behalf??


Moreover, I do not see enough reasons (not even a joke like you) to endure the stress of reserving a copy of any of Egharevba's work (from my university's library); when I can actually remotely access relevant digital citations of same works from prestigious academic peer-reviewed journal articles, with my personalized account, via my university's subscription to diverse digital resources.


Having said all that, I like to wish you defeat in your fight against reality.

This is not a good bye! Lol

Born2Breed:
Ignore that fake. He comes with different monikers after every defeat by superior argument. He is same as Olu.

Let them keep throwing jargons to their kids the fact remain that Ekhaladerhan is Oduduwa the father of Oramiyan and grabs father of Oba Eweka the first.

N.B: No Yoruba tribe EVER conquered any part of Benin or step foot in any part our land agreesively,we sent for our son(Ekalederhan aka Oduduwa) who refused to return and inturn send his son (Oramiyan).

Prolog3111

Even your own Atigba doesn't agree with you on any of the craps you put up here.

He is of the Ogiso dynasty, and he believes (as he has been claiming) that the Yorubas INVADED his land, SCRAPPED his OGISO monarchy and INSTALLED A FOREIGN MONARCHY which came to be known, till date in Benin kingdom, as the OBA monarchy.


He doesn't believe in the made up account that a certain fictitious Izoduwa, or Idoduwa, or Imadoduwa, or Omonayan found his way to become king in Ife --- A fabrication of the 1970s.


You obviously have been following my exchange with him with your usual closed mind; or you have not really been following at all.


And the guy you just called on for support and reinforcement knows me too well. He would never show up

Lastly, I am not whoever you think I am. Stop pretending like you know me from anywhere. It's an almost blind forum here.

Yomit71:
silly girl, which edo greatness are you talking of? is it in prostitution?
you guys should just be grateful because in the system of things you're just inferior.
see minority feeling pompous

minority? really? if not for some yoruba's who rewrite history to suit them u will not be saying such.

jneutron4000:
Madam, I dont understand why you take am personal, first understand the word Myth. You are telling the story as if you were dere. I guess Ogiso just appear without coming from somewhere. I dont care if Yoruba history and that of Edos might have crossed but with all sincerity in my heart I dont want Edo to be part if Yoruba. I want distinctive between Yoruba and Benin.

ask around the benins never claimed the ogisos appeared out of nowhere

Atigba:
Stop writing nonsense here, Oduduwa is from Mecca

Your Oba of Benin is a descendant of Orominyan

Orominyan brought war to Benin around 12th century and conquered Benin

The story you propagate here is fake story written by Oba Erediawa for supremacy

.


nope. you are the one peddling lies. research, the Benin own history has been there before oba erediauwa ancesion

Atigba:
Oduduwa is not from Igodomigodo, he is from Mecca who conquered Ife and later his grandson Orominyan brought war to Igodomigodo and conquered part of it that he names Ille Ibinu which the Portugueses turned to benin.

wrong

Atigba:
We have no link with the Yoruba people, the only major tribe in Nigeria we shared the same ancestors is Igbo.

Benin has nothing in common with the Yorubas, except the Oba of benin who is a Yoruba citizen

wrong

DateMynd44:
what that guy said it's true, I just don't know why you're in sifia pains.
Edo people borrow their culture from both igbo and Yoruba.
Benin don't have a culture of there own.

Edo people have low self esteem. they respect and Adore yorubas a lot.
one even denied me her daughter to marry because I'm Calabar and went ahead and mentioned that it's only Yorubas whom Benin adore that will marry there daughter

because of a disappointment that's why ur writing trash. if you have nothing to contribute and no fact , why do u bother commenting.

fatiaforreal:
And what greatness did you have before Oranmiyan and the obaship institution?
If truly you had greatness in your Ogiso era, why the immediate transition to Oba with a man coming from Ife? Think and stop fooling yourself!

there was greatness in igodomigodo. if you feel it's wrong take it up with the ancestors

proxillin:
Go and read. I hope u will learn new things from this link. Dont be intellectually lazy

https://www.informationng.com/2015/06/confirmed-biblical-queen-sheba-died-and-buried-in-nigeria-photos.html

this has been debunked severally by leading historians and archaelogist

Atigba:
Are you okay, how do Nigerians that travelled from here to Lybia do it.

He probably use horse, Oduduwa came with two hundred and something idols to Ife, he brought bronze casting to Ife. He was some kind a jihadist

The only aboriginal king i know I yoruba land is the oba of ugbo. He couldn't defeat those guys.

Others were conquered, the real rulers of Ife then were Obatala.

I have taken upon myself to know what actually happened, how oduduwa came to Ife. Certainly not from Igodomigodo, or from yoruba land.

shows the incoherence and inconsistency of ur tale. so Nigeria's trek from Nigeria to Libya Do you know the average distance travelled by a horse, especially a large caravan of them with a large retinue of persons? Where the horses specially bred to be able to weather the discrepancies in climatic and topographical conditions? pls learn about travel logistics of that era and see if your claims will not appear to be flimsy at best and a pathetic and laughable. it's best to claim that the civilizations are descended from the great Sudanese civilization through the Nok civilization.

proxillin:
Not Lamoru...Lamurudu... A Yoruba pronunciation for Nimrod.

Anyone from the middle East is regarded as Meccan.

All Odudua divination and Oral history strongly links with Nimrod Tower of Babel..

wow a civilization that died well over a 1000yrs before the earliest claim of there being Yoruba my gosh

Atigba:
Yes, the only kingdom he did not conquered is the Ugbo which is the reason I said earlier he is the oboriginal king in yoruba land.

For your information I am a direct descendant of Ogiso. Forget about those binis that are arguing about oduduwa most dont know their history.
Oba Eradiawa destroyed our history in the 80s for supremacy reason. But we know our history and how orominyan came into our land

really present a record to this claim and I can match u with one of my own from before oba erediauwa coronation

Atigba:
Go and ask any Ilaje elder where his ancestors came from and come back to me.

I wont discuss lagos with you, except you are ignorant you should be aware we once run that city. Eko is our name camp. We used it to camp slaves and sell to the white men.

As for Ekiti. Ado Ekiti mean Edo children in Ekiti

Prince Ado is the name of the first Oba of benin (Eweka). The name Orominyan gave him.

Edo mean Ado.

totally going of the rails in ur ado(edo) origin

Oranmiyan ni ajagun segun.

Idiniyi ti a fi ma nki Oranyan ni wipe:

O ba ina ja, o da ina.
O ba oorun ja, o da oorun.
O ba agbada ja lese omi, o dagbada.
Gbajure.

Oranmiyan, Akin Orun.
Okunrin pupa Iyana.
Okunrin gagagugu ti ngba ojutoro wole.
Onile o ju opopo.
Abule gogoro.
Atofarati ma jaya lolo.
Elenpe Iwagun.
O wa'gun f'eru.
O wa'gun f'omo.
Akin nile.
Akin logun.
Ofodofodo.
Ofodo fodo.
Ofoyara, Fo kanga.
At'odo ati Iyara.
Ko si kan to le da baba duro.
Gbajure.

Born2Breed:
There are different sides to a story. The Yoruba's have theirs and the Benin's also have theirs.

Believe your side and let us believe our own side.

Just like the conversation that transpired between Oba Akenzua and Ooni Aderemi.

Ooni Aderemi said to Oba Akenzua.. "our son is welcomed back home"
Oba Akenzua said to Ooni Aderemi... "if Ooni calls me his son,he is right and if I call him my son, I am right"

During the coronation of Oba Ewuare 2, he said in the presence of Ooni Ogunwusi. ..."you cannot tell me my story and I cannot tell you yours"


We are here to celebrate the greatness of Oba Oramiyan, Aalafin Oramiyan and Ooni Oramiyan.

Even with your rhetoric, your Bini King admitted that the ọbà or obà is of Yoruba origin, which was part of the obà Ewuare II's speech to the world when he firstly appeared publicly.


You see,he or she that bow not to his ancestors will naturally diminish out of recognition and existence.Bini Oba knows the truth about his own history. Meanwhile,enjoy your opinion until the ‘code breaker' uses ancient writing to null your fake and illusionary stories.

Amujale:
Oranmiyan ni ajagun segun.

Idiniyi ti a fi ma nki Oranya ni wipe:

O ba ina ja, o da ina.
O ba orun ja, o da orun.
O ba agbada ja lese omi, o dagbada.
Gbajure.

Oranmiyan akin orun.
Okunrin pupa Iyana.
Okunrin gagagugu ti ngba ojutoro wole.
Onile o ju opopo.
Abule gogoro.
Atofarati ma jaya lolo.
Elenpe iwagun.
O wa'gun f'eru.
O wa'gun f'omo.
Akin nile.
Akin logun.
Ofodofodo.
Ofodo fodo.
Ofoyara, Fo kanga.
At'odo ati Iyara.
Ko si kan to le da baba duro.
Gbajure.

Bundaweber:
shows the incoherence and inconsistency of ur tale. so Nigeria's trek from Nigeria to Libya Do you know the average distance travelled by a horse, especially a large caravan of them with a large retinue of persons? Where the horses specially bred to be able to weather the discrepancies in climatic and topographical conditions? pls learn about travel logistics of that era and see if your claims will not appear to be flimsy at best and a pathetic and laughable. it's best to claim that the civilizations are descended from the great Sudanese civilization through the Nok civilization.

I don't know Nigeria but Yorubas. And people did travelled to this present day part of West Africa. Sometimes, I wonder how people like jump into conclusion without considering factors that can not negate the migration of people. Have you never thought of people camping in between migrating? Do you know who were the coptic christain in Egypt? You see, one of the greatest grandeur undoing in lives of many of your likes is that you people underestimated the people who built an elephant tusk with Semitic inscription that predated Nigeria. Yes ,it is true. Go understand the meaning of pitchfork in your glorious Egypt, Greek, Roman etc to be compared with Opa Oranimiyan staff. Only and only if you knew who the Yoruba ancestors who were, the chosen people of God , perhaps you will understand.

I have seen a lot of gibberish on this forum and I do laugh over it because, people are actually not ready to learn.