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NigelCundy:
Thank you and thanks to everyone who gave an advice. You talked about where I want to be in the next five years. Could you please expatiate?
I already made a wrong choice 7 months ago (4 weeks after my NYSC) when I chose a sales job paying relatively high at the expense of knowledge (I didn't seek advice).
I regret that choice because it mentally and physically drained me but I feel the circumstances may be different in that NNPC offers a good opportunity for growth and development aside from the juicy benefits.

I'd appreciate if you can help me clearly define the choices and the impacts it might have based on your own experiences.

Thank you.

NigelCundy:
Good morning everyone. Please, I need your advice on this.

Which one would you pick:
1. Masters Degree in Canada (Not Scholarship)
2. NNPC Graduate Trainee (If successful)

Your advice and reasons will be highly appreciated.

Cc:
Xfire
Jarus
Mosgoon

geektrovert:
In 2019, you can get a funded MSc with the right information and patience.

If I were in your shoes, after resuming for NNPC (based on your assumption), I will wait for a year or two, then discuss with my line manager about taking a study leave. Then I will go to Canada for my MSc.

BenFlash:
Truth is, as much having a masters gives you a miniscule advantage over non-masters holder, based on my recruiting experience, what recruiters really look out for is your work experience and what you can bring to the table. If we restrict it to just GT roles with no much experience, I can beat my chest that a GT with just B.Sc or B.Tech. but with impressive past projects under his belt will most certainly be favoured over a Masters holder with little or no project. In fact, in most roles, professional certification takes precedence over masters.

Why You may ask? It is because M.Sc. is generally academic, while professional certifications have been designed to address skill gaps in specific career paths.

geektrovert:
In 2019, you can get a funded MSc with the right information and patience.

If I were in your shoes, after resuming for NNPC (based on your assumption), I will wait for a year or two, then discuss with my line manager about taking a study leave. Then I will go to Canada for my MSc.

joobseekar:
Errm errm... this is not a career section nau, before you know it, some people will start telling us how they're working with Microsoft, Intel, or have offers in waiting for them from Apple, Huwaei, Amazon and the likes, and the "mosgoon déjà vu" will start again.


Let's be focus on NNPC "pulease".

joobseekar:
Errm errm... this is not a career section nau, before you know it, some people will start telling us how they're working with Microsoft, Intel, or have offers in waiting for them from Apple, Huwaei, Amazon and the likes, and the "mosgoon déjà vu" will start again.


Let's be focus on NNPC "pulease".

mosgoon:
You made the decision a bit easier by saying your masters is unfunded. Trust me, you do not want to go for an unfunded masters 90% of the time.

Now considering that, the next thing you need to do is evaluate the risks involved. Perform a risk-benefit analysis. I do that everytime, it's the most logical and profitable way to go about things. i even did it with the false allegations made here against me when i was thinking of leaving the thread. Now think like this

What do i stand to lose/gain if i go for an unfunded masters while forfeiting an NNPC offer :
Pros : Potential to earn more after completion, once in a lifetime opportunity if the school is MIT-Caltech-Stanford-ETH-UCB etc, Being more competitive after school due to added knowledge

Cons: Cost of study, Possible debt, Opportunity cost due to wasted experience that could have been gotten at NNPC, missing hands on experience, missing networking opportunities, missing an early start to climb the corporate ladder if you are not keen on academics, missing career advancement opportunities offered by big companies like NNPC/Shell/Exxon etc which may rival or even better the current masters opportunity: MBA/MS-Executive programs -Certifications, Getting a competitive edge in workforce.

You have other personal pros and cons, adding everything up and weighing the pros and cons,map out a cost/benefit graph and decide without bias. It almost always works out better for you in the end

Best of Luck!

Would connect later with you as promised when this is all done.

bobowaja:
I just tire..... Na Wetin go take the whole day be this again.

@ the bolded, someone already left PWC, Globacom and SHELL offers for unfunded further studies.... Let's wait as we see more wonders

BenFlash:
Intelligence does not hide, whether haters like it or not. Well articulated, In fact I don't really care if you are also behind Jarus' moniker now.

AstraLuna:
Must you take us all back to express your sef. Please, its passed

Tatabonzo:
Congratulations people!!!Expect your calls from Monday. Resumption is from 1st August to 1st october!!!

AstraLuna:
Must you take us all back to express your sef. Please, its passed

bobowaja:
How is someone else's decision to a**lick any of your business? Bia bros, face front

BenFlash:
Later, you will still come and beg for my a**licking zobo at local men joint. Issorait, lol

BenFlash:
You are right about me expressing myself but taking you back is totally up to you.

bobowaja:
Bros u no fit deny me that zobo o....
Don't look for my trouble biko
Good morning

AstraLuna:
Now that we are clear, we can now move forward to more important and relevant talks. Okay?

Brainniest:
I think I will just have to comment...
Man you are UNSCRUPULOUSLY METICULOUS. You have already made your point even by your first post. Digging deep just shows it is been done out of hate and not of a heart that likes to research as you earlier claimed. You can't throw away the baby with the bad water. Mosgoon might have his own flaws of self aggrandizement and all that but tell me a man that is perfect. You cannot deny the fact that he has been useful in many ways even more than you. For example, just go through this thread if you can and evaluate his response to people, he has been one of the most courteous person on this thread. Even when someone (one of the haters) tried picking quarrel with him, the guy just maturedly let it slide. Not to mention his tips on some issues and the expensive LOMS he gave for free. So, will you now rub this off and just cruxify him for his self ostentation(which could be his foible of which we all have our own foibles that we have to work on) ?
Live and let live.... Nobody holy pass!
Good morning everyone..... Wishing us a promising and rewarding week ahead.

Opzyyy:
Thanks a lot for your contributions @ tejiri4, ginalex, johnpotter660, benflash and big Jarus. I appreciate it. Lol "what if they throw her in sales or marketing", I thought so to.

One other thing, she's not going for audit but tax. You think such skills will help in other industries in the future?

Please what are the specialized departments that one can even work in a bank apart from sales, operations, customer service. Asking for myself.

Modified.

NigelCundy:
Good morning everyone. Please, I need your advice on this.

Which one would you pick:
1. Masters Degree in Canada (Not Scholarship)
2. NNPC Graduate Trainee (If successful)

Your advice and reasons will be highly appreciated.

Cc:
Xfire
Jarus
Mosgoon

BenFlash:
How you dey bobo?

Jarus:
I'm a tax professional myself. It has its merits and demerits.

Main pros:

1. As it is a very specialised branch of Accounting/Law, it will be less competitive when he wants to move from practice (Big 4) to the industry (company). He does not have to compete with other accountants. What this means is, you beat the competition from other accountants (mainly auditors) when a tax opening is advertised. There are a lot of accountants and any opening for accounting/finance position is usually very competitive.

2. Also, more and more companies are becoming tax conscious, and setting up tax department, which means the demand for tax professionals will continue to rise.

3. Somehow, it also has job security when you move to industry. Because it is a very specialized field, they cannot just move just any other accountant there unlike other units within Finance department. If the department is lean (i.e just 1 or 2, or max 3 people in tax department, depending on size of company), tax department is almost immune from layoff.

Main cons:

1. It is too restrictive, unlike other aspects of accounting. You can hardly apply for any role outside tax (eg Finance Manager) and be considered. They will tell you are too specialised. Audit guys have better advantage here.

2. With few exceptions, you are least likely to be promoted Finance Manager or CFO among the other accountants within a company because you are too specialized. An exception is a PwC Tax Partner that was recently made CFO of Forte Oil.

Jarus:
Get work (NNPC) experience before going for masters. But masters is now very important, especially for those eyeing international job market.

Most international jobs (OPEC, World Bank, AfDB, OFID, IMF etc) these days require minimum of Masters for experienced hires. .

Black11:
Baba e weak me sef

Jarus:
I'm a tax professional myself. It has its merits and demerits.

Main pros:

1. As it is a very specialised branch of Accounting/Law, it will be less competitive when he wants to move from practice (Big 4) to the industry (company). He does not have to compete with other accountants. What this means is, you beat the competition from other accountants (mainly auditors) when a tax opening is advertised. There are a lot of accountants and any opening for accounting/finance position is usually very competitive.

2. Also, more and more companies are becoming tax conscious, and setting up tax department, which means the demand for tax professionals will continue to rise.

3. Somehow, it also has job security when you move to industry. Because it is a very specialized field, they cannot just move just any other accountant there unlike other units within Finance department. If the department is lean (i.e just 1 or 2, or max 3 people in tax department, depending on size of company), tax department is almost immune from layoff.

Main cons:

1. It is too restrictive, unlike other aspects of accounting. You can hardly apply for any role outside tax (eg Finance Manager) and be considered. They will tell you are too specialised. Audit guys have better advantage here.

2. With few exceptions, you are least likely to be promoted Finance Manager or CFO among the other accountants within a company because you are too specialized. An exception is a PwC Tax Partner that was recently made CFO of Forte Oil.

Jarus:
I'm a tax professional myself. It has its merits and demerits.

Main pros:

1. As it is a very specialised branch of Accounting/Law, it will be less competitive when he wants to move from practice (Big 4) to the industry (company). He does not have to compete with other accountants. What this means is, you beat the competition from other accountants (mainly auditors) when a tax opening is advertised. There are a lot of accountants and any opening for accounting/finance position is usually very competitive.

2. Also, more and more companies are becoming tax conscious, and setting up tax department, which means the demand for tax professionals will continue to rise.

3. Somehow, it also has job security when you move to industry. Because it is a very specialized field, they cannot just move just any other accountant there unlike other units within Finance department. If the department is lean (i.e just 1 or 2, or max 3 people in tax department, depending on size of company), tax department is almost immune from layoff.

Main cons:

1. It is too restrictive, unlike other aspects of accounting. You can hardly apply for any role outside tax (eg Finance Manager) and be considered. They will tell you are too specialised. Audit guys have better advantage here.

2. With few exceptions, you are least likely to be promoted Finance Manager or CFO among the other accountants within a company because you are too specialized. An exception is a PwC Tax Partner that was recently made CFO of Forte Oil.

BenFlash:
If you had a more important and relevant talk you would have shared it since and stopped wasting your time quoting me, please free me my brother.