mountmoriah:
on point

Okay

Cindino20:


Corrected....thanks

You're welcome

Temi1:
People in the house, please what is the minimum thickness a German floor on proper dry land should have?

From standard it is 125mm

Winz2017:
Pls, i need advice from all (pro). i intend to get married next year August and I just bought a land which i seriously want to develop immediately before Christmas
*Land size = 100 by 50
* 2 bedroom Flat
Although I sketched the Below Floor-Plan myself, and my Architect Friend rounded the plan up (I like a big lounge + big dinning)

In our local palace language (How much go fit build this 2bedroom flat from foundation to roofing level)

*POP Ceiling (No)
*PVC Ceiling (Yes)
*PVC Sliding window (Yes)
*House fence (No)
*borehole (No)

Check my signature, I will give you the estimate

Jalofun:
Good day everyone, I need your help for the quotation of how many planks of wood for roofing a house with this dimension 46 x 72.
Planning to make use of metcoppo aluminium.

I will appreciate your comments.

The pitch of the roof will affect the estimate, that is how high the roof will be, especially the length of the king post. The plan of the building will also affect.


However, an estimator/QS can make reasonable assumption and give the estimate without those details.


But the details are important for accuracy

holina:
6 NOS mini flats on ground floor and 6 nos mini flats on upper flow 3 down 3 up which is better

I always advise people to build vertically. We need to take advantage of the vertical.

Land is an appreciating asset whose supply is highly limited..... You can maximum a little space to get more by building in storeys.


The other portion of the land (the space left) will appreciate in years to come. It will be a better asset

diordaves:


The difference is the cost of decking relative to the cost of land in the area.

If the cost of decking is more expensive than the same size of land, then 6 number of ground floor mini flats are better. If the cost of decking is cheaper than the cost of land of the same size, then up and down mini flats are better.

So for example, if 100x50 is 5 million, but decking is 3 million, then up and down is better. But if 100x50 is N500k and decking is 3 million, no need for decking. Just buy two plot or three.

You build vertically if land is very expensive and build horizontally if land is cheap.

You made a very good point but few things were not considered.


One is: The cost of foundation (substructure) for a bungalow is not the same with that of a storey building. The additional cost in foundation should be considered too

adanny01:


I totally agree but to add a little more, the decking not only serves as additional land, it also serves as roofing and ceiling of the 3 flats on ground. So, the cost of roofing and ceiling of 3 flats should be added to cost of buying extra land for proper cost comparison.

Using the example you made



On this example, if 100x50 is N1.5m plus roofing and ceiling 3 of 6 flats is 1.5m making 3 million and decking is 3 million, it now cost the same both ways, this will only lead to personal preference. Even at the same cost, you will have minor differences such as more parking area or unbuilt space with the additional land.

Kudos!


Please the additional cost in foundation (substructure) should be taken into consideration too

holina:
6 NOS mini flats on ground floor and 6 nos mini flats on upper flow 3 down 3 up which is better

You need a comparative cost analysis to make the best decision.

The comparative analysis of the two alternative will help you to select the optimum alternative subject to your constraints.


If you don't mind, I can do this for you.


All the additional cost of the storey building (suspended slab, foundation/substructure, and the upper floor) will be compared with the cost of land and cost of another bungalow.


This comparative cost analysis will help you to make the best choice subject to your constraints and preferences.


If you have drawings or sketch you can send a pm

Thanks so much for your comment.

boay:


The pitch of the roof will affect the estimate, that is how high the roof will be, especially the length of the king post. The plan of the building will also affect.


However, an estimator/QS can make reasonable assumption and give the estimate without those details.


But the details are important for accuracy

boay:


Kudos!


Please the additional cost in foundation (substructure) should be taken into consideration too

While considering additional cost on foundation and others that has been mentioned,

It will be wise to note that on the case of a storey building;
1) the same foundation carries the two buildings while for a bungalow you have to do two

2) The same roof covers the two buildings but for a bungalow you will need to do two roofs

3) the suspended floor for the upper floor is already serving as the ceiling system for the lower floor, but for a bungalow you will need to do a ceiling system for it.

Then, going up gives some added design edges like proper ventilation, natural lighting, aesthetics and security to an extent.

The best of it like someone mentioned earlier is the Z factor "time", the value of the land in years to come will be much more higher than the current value of the suspended slab.

gbadexy:

Putting it properly, all water based paints are emulsion, be it satin, matte, silk or regular emulsion.
I've not been abroad but I don't think what they refer to as emulsion paint in general terms is the same as what we call it here.
Even by nigerian standard, what we refer to as the premium grade now used to be the standard grade until not too long ago that some companies started doing budget grade and even they still have the former general standard grade as their premium now.
So in nigerian market, we have the budget grade which some brands are known for, we have the premium grades that some brands are also known for, we also have matte emulsion which is quite different from the premium emulsion, then we have the silk, satin etc.
Some refer to premium grade emulsion as matte because of the quality, some even refer to premium grade emulsion with tiny grains as matte but if you come across imported paints, what they refer to as matt is simply a matted (dulled) form of sheen paint and they still have some level of sheen and are cleanable.
Why basic and premium emulsion paint don't require screeding is not mainly due to presence of fillers but due to the absence of any form of sheen. Any slight shinning reflects irregularities and imperfections on the wall and the reflection is lower in ideal matte due to the lower sheen than satin, so in essence it doesn't show irregularities much and could be used on un screeded wall but that doesn't mean it's not there.
I will edit and post pictures from matte applied on primed and walls not primed from my gallery later and you notice the difference.
Edited: the two first ones are matte applied on ordinary plaster and the last two are matte applied on a primed wall. Notice the smoothness and brightness of both.

Good day,

Is there any affrodable alternative to achieve that level of smoothness of screeded walls?

I ve just ran the numbers for screeding and it doesnt look nice at all . At 900 per sqm a standard room (height: 3m length:3.6m) will cost ca.40K naira according to the quote i got. In a house with 6 bedrooms , 2 living rooms, 2 kitchens, external walls and fence, it seems like an uphill task.

Abeg make una help local man..na house person wan build i nor wan go moon

Thanks in anticipation for a favourable reply.

PS: anyone with experience can contribute too

RedMapleConsult:


While considering additional cost on foundation and others that has been mentioned,

It will be wise to note that on the case of a storey building;
1) the same foundation carries the two buildings while for a bungalow you have to do two

2) The same roof covers the two buildings but for a bungalow you will need to do two roofs

3) the suspended floor for the upper floor is already serving as the ceiling system for the lower floor, but for a bungalow you will need to do a ceiling system for it.

Then, going up gives some added design edges like proper ventilation, natural lighting, aesthetics and security to an extent.

The best of it like someone mentioned earlier is the Z factor "time", the value of the land in years to come will be much more higher than the current value of the suspended slab.

That's my point.


You're right

adanny01:


I believe that a corner piece doesn't always mean a bigger land than a regular one but some features more people desire in an estate.

A corner piece has one less neighbor, more natural light, more fresh airflow, more street parking, more street visibility, more garden area etc the downside is there is no privacy in the compound if the fence is short or no fence estate, more street noise, more gardening cost, and for those countries where you are require to clear ice on walk way, you have more walkway to cover. A hurricane will batter such a house more than any other etc.

The twin duplex will depend on its size.

Thanks very much for your input sir.

The land is a 600sqm land though.. They told is to pay more for the corner piece and my mum seem to prefer it.

Thanks for the input again

Cindino20:


Good day,

Is there any affrodable alternative to achieve that level of smoothness of screeded walls?

I ve just ran the numbers for screeding and it doesnt look nice at all . At 900 per sqm a standard room (height: 3m length:3.6m) will cost ca.40K naira according to the quote i got. In a house with 6 bedrooms , 2 living rooms, 2 kitchens, external walls and fence, it seems like an uphill task.

Abeg make una help local man..na house person wan build i nor wan go moon

Thanks in anticipation for a favourable reply.

PS: anyone with experience can contribute too

Good morning sir,
I can naturally make alternate suggestions based on the product and the cost.
Someone who gave you a quote of N900 may base it on a basecoat of N12000 per drum.
I know that good pop cement screeding starts from N550 upwards per sqm so the price you were given could still be contested and driven down.
At N7000 per drum and average rate of N200 per sqm for application, my ready mixed screeding putty basecoat is around N580 per sqm.
As per the alternate to screeding, you may use a primer applied in 3 coats and sand papered before painted.
I base the primer and number of coats on my brand formulation with very high solid content intended to give significant thick coat that can be sand papered.
A drum is N5000 and covers approximately 25 sqm for the 3 coats. That's N200 per sqm for materials.
As per the application, you negotiate for the cost of painting only. they don't negotiate price for application of primer separately since it's done together with painting.

https://www.nairaland.com/4577731/ongoing-painting-pictures-nairalanders-lekki

Primer was used for the internal and external of the building in the thread above. The internal pictures are towards the end of the pages.

gbadexy:

Good morning sir,
I can naturally make alternate suggestions based on the product and the cost.
Someone who gave you a quote of N900 may base it on a basecoat of N12000 per drum.
I know that good pop cement screeding starts from N550 upwards per sqm so the price you were given could still be contested and driven down.
At N7000 per drum and average rate of N200 per sqm for application, my ready mixed screeding putty basecoat is around N580 per sqm.
As per the alternate to screeding, you may use a primer applied in 3 coats and sand papered before painted.
I base the primer and number of coats on my brand formulation with very high solid content intended to give significant thick coat that can be sand papered.
A drum is N5000 and covers approximately 25 sqm for the 3 coats. That's N200 per sqm for materials.
As per the application, you negotiate for the cost of painting only. they don't negotiate price for application of primer separately since it's done together with painting.

https://www.nairaland.com/4577731/ongoing-painting-pictures-nairalanders-lekki

Primer was used for the internal and external of the building in the thread above. The internal pictures are towards the end of the pages.

Thank you very much for your answer.

I will check the thread.

The work with primer looks really good. It seems it was not a first time painting. Can one get such results for newly plastered wall? Do you have any thread where primer was applied to a newly built house?

Once again thanks for your time.

C.

Cindino20:


Thank you very much for your answer.

I will check the thread.

The work with primer looks really good. It seems it was not a first time painting. Can one get such results for newly plastered wall? Do you have any thread where primer was applied to a newly built house?

Once again thanks for your time

C.

It's a new building that has never been painted sir.
I have some I didn't have permission to post but I could send them to you.

gbadexy:


It's a new building that has never been painted sir.
I have some I didn't have permission to post but I could send them to you.

thanks... check email.

Cindino20:


thanks... check email.

alright sir. The email is nginnovative@gmail.com though.

gbadexy:

alright sir. The email is nginnovative@gmail.com though.

I see

I tried the ol' NL PM before seeing this. Sent!

Royruky:
Good morning my people. I saw a video of a remodeled kitchen where the tiles were removed and the walls were screeded and painted. Can someone help with how well to protect the WALLS especially with respect to the area of the kitchen sink where the walls come in contact with water regularly.

I am thinking of using SATIN PAINT for the kitchen walls. Thanks

Possible, you can install back splash at sink level. I believe this would take care of water coming in contact with your wall and prevent your paint from losing its appealing qualities in quick time.

Cindino20:


Good day,

Is there any affrodable alternative to achieve that level of smoothness of screeded walls?

I ve just ran the numbers for screeding and it doesnt look nice at all . At 900 per sqm a standard room (height: 3m length:3.6m) will cost ca.40K naira according to the quote i got. In a house with 6 bedrooms , 2 living rooms, 2 kitchens, external walls and fence, it seems like an uphill task.

Abeg make una help local man..na house person wan build i nor wan go moon

Thanks in anticipation for a favourable reply.

PS: anyone with experience can contribute too

Prepare your wall,then apply primer and paint. If u need a good painter can recommend

boay:



You made a very good point but few things were not considered.


One is: The cost of foundation (substructure) for a bungalow is not the same with that of a storey building. The additional cost in foundation should be considered too

Both type of builds will need foundations!

What extra money it will cost you to build a foundation for a Multi-storey (compared to a bungalow), will pan out in what eztra it will cost you to build TWO foundations for two bungalows, compared to a single building with multiple floors.

So, the best measure is the analysis given by the gentleman diordaves, IMO.

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gbadexy:


It's a new building that has never been painted sir.
I have some I didn't have permission to post but I could send them to you.

Can you kindly send the pictures to my mail: royrukevwe@gmail.com

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Royruky:


Can you kindly send the pictures to my mail: royrukevwe@gmail.com

Alright sir.

Daboomb:


Both type of builds will need foundations!

What extra money it will cost you to build a foundation for a Multi-storey (compared to a bungalow), will pan out in what eztra it will cost you to build TWO foundations for two bungalows, compared to a single building with multiple floors.

So, the best measure is the analysis given by the gentleman diordaves, IMO.

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