plaindealer:
If fact, why are anti Muslim and northern Nigerian religious bigots all of a sudden in love with a northern Muslim group?


... they will go to bed with the devil as long as the devil is the enemy of their enemy.

Evil people without principles.

Indeed. Saraki becomes their hero once he opposed PMB and Tinubu they love to hate never mind he is a misruler who has impoverished and imprisoned Kwarans through his family's monopoly of the power structure in the State for decades. Kwara is so underdeveloped and there is nothing good the Sarakis have done for the State. Yet do Igbos care about Kwarans and their wellbeing or is it that, as an unreasonable and hate-filled people, they can ignore the atrocities of Saraki against kwaran to back him maniacally because the enemy (Saraki) of my enemy (Buhari) is my friend?

Even look at how they feverishly got behind Atiku, one of the men who has ruined Nigeria and gotten us to our pathetic status quo today, to show you they are an unprincipled and vengeful people. As long as PMB goes, they will back even the worst devil to replace him. Yet look at how Yorubas voted well for Atiku and his Igbo VP even as Buhari ran with their fellow Yoruba i.e Osinbajo?

Igbos condemn Islam and Moslems as "evil" 24/7 yet they are now fans of and the most vocal supporters of Zakzaki because of the perception he is an enemy of PMB.

They all show this hypocrisy to include their shameless leaders. Kanu claimed Yorubas should be killed before a Snake. Yet when Pa Fasoranti's daughter was killed by so-called herdmens Kanu rushed in to be condemning the development yet intelligent men will wonder why he is not happy they have killed a Yoruba he claims must die before a Snake.

Say one thing today and back another tomorrow. That is how those hungry for power and money operate in Nigeria today. It is only gullible street level agitators who swallow their message hook, line and sinker. After all, Kanu is alive today, with his family balling in London, while many gullible IPOB SE youths have been led to their death for nothing. Just look at how disgustingly Kanu preaches hate against the Yorubas yet he is in a bromance with FFK and Fayose with all of them addressing each other as "my good brother". It just shows, in this modern age, many greedy and power-hungry folks exist who believe deceiving the tribalistic and discriminatory Nigerian public is par for the course as per what they wish to achieve personally.

selemempe:
from nigeria to somalia to egypt to libya to mali to niger to northern cameroon to sudan to congo to chad.....islam is making progress very dificult for Africa

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plaindealer:



Were you hypocrites and ethnic jingoists also looking at GEJ's policies with side-eyes when he crushed the same man and killed 3 of his sons back in 2914?

Oh, I forgot, you hypocrites were too busy shouting GEJ till 2015

GEJ went after him AFTER Iranian citizen was caught moving container full of guns to Zaria. The generals in the North that coordinated the movement were left alone after intervention of Northern Elders.

Here is the story: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-weapons/weapons-seized-in-nigeria-came-from-iran-shipping-company-idUSTRE69T1YT20101030

GEJ killed that story because he was bloody incompetent and unable to see anything. Diezani and her sister didn't let that one see road. By then, IMN had already turned to problem.

When the Northern Generals went after Maitatsine in Kano, they were supposed to clear IMN and Zakzaky but they didn't because they felt he was not a problem. Back then, majority of his converts were pagan villagers and Christians so they didn't mind him and his activities.

Or do you deny that they should have cleared IMN during Maitatsine?

Las Las Saudi Arabia and Iran go turn Northern Nigeria to war zone

plaindealer:
El Zakzaky:: Religious movement or A military state within Nigeria. PICTURES.



Troubling.

when e go happen,there will be nobody to to ask or to tell the story
.am seeing stronger than boko back by Iran.

Cacawa2:
Same as with the Shiites IMN, I'm yet to see them carry arms.

Dey only involved in gross violence and actions leading to loss of lives n property couples with treat to societal peace and tranquility.

plaindealer:
I used to think this is a religious cult, but after watching their propaganda videos and seeing their military stance and profile, it's safe to conclude that the FG did the right thing by curtailing their activities. This is a clear and present danger that the FG must nip in the bud ASAP.

Their parades are well organized professionally structured with tall and well-built members with obvious strong military training, even the women are not left out.

This is more than a religious cult/

This is definitely not a religion, this looks more like a state within a state and a non-state military outfit within Nigeria.

Like the Vatican City aka Holy See


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Gandollar:
That this group even has a military arm means we are doomed in the hands of this pissful religious people in Nigeria. And buhari with his foolish ego is giving them the opportunity to test their might.

with Iran pulling the strings

El Zakzaky:: Religious movement: Yes.
It's also a military Imposition, a kind of Parasite sucking vital blood of Nigeria for its existence to paralise Nigeria.
It is not a military state within Nigeria. Buhari doesn't like Bureaucracy.
Buhari's Script Writers planned against The Iranian Elsaksaky's Imposition by Fulani Herdsmen Terrorism and Ruga-settlements.
Our mistake is Buhari doesn't know Iran, doesn't know the difference between Sunniis and Shiits and doesn't know God enough. The King of Saudi warned him in 2015 to beware of El-saksaky. That's all he knows.
I have warned that Elsaksaky and family be sugabanned from Nigeria.


Troubling.

gameboyo:


Do you have any other thing to say?

Guy shut up! These are the boys and girls brigade of the Anglican church of which I was proudly one during my boyhood,This has nothing to do with a religious organisation that carries arms

Cacawa2:
How about boys brigade, man-o-war, Salvation army?

Mon o war is non religious but others are

plaindealer:






What is this one talking about? The Nigerian Army under Jonathan killed many of his followers, including 3 of his sons in one single attack.

You people love to run your mouth, but you don't know anything.

From your tone, body language and actual words said here, it's not difficult to see that you are a wahabi fundamentalist. ISIS ISWAP and co are all Sunni inspired.

Last last religion na scam

plaindealer:



Then go and start your own thread to talk about herdsmen. It's simple, no need to derail the thread with your herdsmen issues..

don't remind me what ibb said in 1993

kayroc:
GEJ went after him AFTER Iranian citizen was caught moving container full of guns to Zaria. The generals in the North that coordinated the movement were left alone after intervention of Northern Elders.

Here is the story: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-weapons/weapons-seized-in-nigeria-came-from-iran-shipping-company-idUSTRE69T1YT20101030

GEJ killed that story because he was bloody incompetent and unable to see anything. Diezani and her sister didn't let that one see road. By then, IMN had already turned to problem.

When the Northern Generals went after Maitatsine in Kano, they were supposed to clear IMN and Zakzaky but they didn't because they felt he was not a problem. Back then, majority of his converts were pagan villagers and Christians so they didn't mind him and his activities.

Or do you deny that they should have cleared IMN during Maitatsine?

What is making you mix things up so badly.
Can you please calm down, sort out your thoughts and say things in a coherent manner?
Thanks.

Hameex:
Last last religion na scam

No greater truth has been said on nairaland since 2005


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People blaming Buhari administration on the way he has handled this El zalzaky issue should kindly read this extract from Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Zakzaky
Ibraheem Zakzaky was born on 5 May 1953 (15 Sha’ban 1372 AH), in Zaria, Kaduna State. He attended the Provincial Arabic School, Zaria (1969-1970), the School for Arabic Studies, Kano from 1971-1976, where he obtained the ‘Grade II’ Certificate, and the Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria (1976-1979), where he earned a first-class bachelor's degree in Economics. The degree was denied to him by the university authorities due to his Islamic activities.[7] During his university days, he was active in student Islamic unionism, where he became the secretary-general of the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN) at the Main Campus of the university (1977/78), and later became Vice President (International Affairs) of the National Body of the MSSN in 1979.[8]

Sheikh Zakzaky giving a lecture at ABU's mosque in the 1990s.
The same year, he is said to have become so impressed with the 1979 Iranian Revolution that he wanted one at home. Later, Zakzaky went to Iran, ultimately becoming a Shia cleric. At home, he became the leader of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria and turned it into a vehicle for proselytizing and gaining followers in the 1990s. As a result of his activities, millions have converted to Shia Islam in a country once with hardly any Shia population.[9]

Cacawa2:
How about boys brigade, man-o-war, Salvation army?

White man brought that with their region from the beginning

beejaay:
How about knights in the church?every Religious group in this country have some group of soldiers like this, dressed in different ways..

Starting media war on the zakys already!!!

Religions is really the opium of the masses....

White man brought that with their Christian religion

anonimi:


What is making you mix things up so badly.
Can you please calm down, sort out your thoughts and say things in a coherent manner?
Thanks.

What I am saying is that this issue with Zakzaky didn't start today. Zakzaky went to Iran in the early 1980s with the full knowledge of military intelligence back then.

When he returned and started gathering converts, he was the subject of numerous security reports. Shagari did nothing to nip his activities in the bud because he was seen as one of them. Back then, the rivalry between Saudi Arabia (Sunni) and Iran (Shia) was not that pronounced, so the Northern Generals did not see him as a threat.

He was allowed to keep gaining converts and gaining grounds in Nigeria even though security reports rightly stated that his activities were incompatible with the long term survival of the Nigerian State if left unchecked.

Around that time Buhari came in and he too was given the same briefing on Zakzaky. Buhari did not stop him, instead he focused on his partial and selective anti-corruption war. Buhari left el-Zakzaky to grow.

When the Maitatsine crisis broke out, the same security agency said that IMN and Zakzaky should be crushed finally, but the Generals did nothing. They left this guy to keep gaining ground.

Obasanjo took over and was advised to go after IMN and Zakzaky. OBJ did not do anything, due to his desire for third term. He wanted to pacify the north by not only permitting Zamfara to introduce Sharia, but by avoiding anything that might antagonize the northerners. This left Zakzaky to keep growing.

The northern security establishment kept ignoring this man until now that he simply cannot be stopped because he has been on ground for too long. He has thousands of followers that are serious about being willing to die on his orders.

GEJ came in, and he too was shown the problem of el-Zakzaky. Back then, in the lead up to 2011 election, northern generals decided that they would use Zakxaky to cause problems for GEJ and that is how they set up that plan to ship him weapons from Iran. The shipment was intercepted, but the generals that organized the transfer were let go after intervention by Northern elders.

The same northerners, in 2015 decided that they would use Zakzaky against Jonathan if he didn't concede the 2015 elections. They had agreed that Zakxaky and his Shia would protest and constitute nuisance after election if GEJ didn't go.

In exchange for this service, Zakzaky was to be given fee reign in Zaria and was even promised political representation in Kaduna by el-Rufai. When the time came to pay up and give the man what they promised, they turned on him and now his followers are protesting.

Zakzaky was left to grow by the northerners for their own reasons. He did not just wake up today. That man should have been dealt with in the 80s but the short sighted northern generals let him keep growing until now they don't know how to get rid of him.

Cacawa2:
How about boys brigade, man-o-war, Salvation army?

Those are registered and duly recognized. Please be objective and don't let sentiment drive your judgment.

plaindealer:
I used to think this is a religious cult, but after watching their propaganda videos and seeing their military stance and profile, it's safe to conclude that the FG did the right thing by curtailing their activities. This is a clear and present danger that the FG must nip in the bud ASAP.

Their parades are well organized professionally structured with tall and well-built members with obvious strong military training, even the women are not left out.


This is more than a religious cult/


This is definitely not a religion, this looks more like a state within a state and a non-state military outfit within Nigeria.

God bless you. It takes an ample wisdom to understand the potential threat of a particular group, growing in thousands by the day, putting up such military prowess in terms of strength and armourage, and gradually out numbering the military workforce of a state.

There are tendency that such group could rebel against the government force in future, there are tendency of a desperate politician using them to hijack power knowing knowing that the group is dominated by illiterates who lacks the adequate understanding of right and wrongs on literary edifice.

Moreover, it the sect is actually aimed at religious progress as claimed, Islamically, white attire is most honourable and recommended by the prophet, then why those military training and black uniform if not for evil intention.

I expected them to engage in those acts recommended by the prophet, like horse ridding, wrestling among others...

The few occasions I was privileged to enroute Alzazaky's territory in Zaria, sincerely speaking it was entirely a different phase from what we hear from the media.

As much as its against the code of conduct to open fire on an "unarmed" citizen of a country, there are however a limitation to 'stand down order' in peace keeping operation under rules of engagement especially when engaging people with tendency of violence.

Various live recording of the confrontations with both Nigerian Army and Nigerian police showed these guys carrying stones and light weapons while advancing towards the security personnel, are those stones and sticks not enough to kill and render havoc on innocent citizens like them? we heard gun shots even in the videos of their previous engagement with Military in Zaria, yet we say they are not armed.

How do we think it feels for a security interface leader to account for his members massacred by a supposed "un-armed" group with stones and stick.

Why do we like to sabotage ourselves due to hatred taken too far...

I'm much convinced that some Nigerians would have been so happy and and applaud a news of a particular group killing numbers of Nigerian security personnel for reason known to them..

We won't progress if we don't change our mentality and political orientation in this country.

Peaceful protest is a fundamental right and it is often done with placards and coordinated voice. Sticks and stone are not objects of peaceful protest.

May God save us from know and unknown evil.

AdekunleAkofe:
People blaming Buhari administration on the way he has handled this El zalzaky issue should kindly read this extract from Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Zakzaky
Ibraheem Zakzaky was born on 5 May 1953 (15 Sha’ban 1372 AH), in Zaria, Kaduna State. He attended the Provincial Arabic School, Zaria (1969-1970), the School for Arabic Studies, Kano from 1971-1976, where he obtained the ‘Grade II’ Certificate, and the Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria (1976-1979), where he earned a first-class bachelor's degree in Economics. The degree was denied to him by the university authorities due to his Islamic activities.[7] During his university days, he was active in student Islamic unionism, where he became the secretary-general of the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN) at the Main Campus of the university (1977/78), and later became Vice President (International Affairs) of the National Body of the MSSN in 1979.[8]

Sheikh Zakzaky giving a lecture at ABU's mosque in the 1990s.
The same year, he is said to have become so impressed with the 1979 Iranian Revolution that he wanted one at home. Later, Zakzaky went to Iran, ultimately becoming a Shia cleric. At home, he became the leader of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria and turned it into a vehicle for proselytizing and gaining followers in the 1990s. As a result of his activities, millions have converted to Shia Islam in a country once with hardly any Shia population.[9]

Thank you for this.

Zakzaky was permitted to operate freely because he was part of the ultra-Islamist intellectual youth that the northerners used. Sanusi was also in this group and it is suspected that Muttallab was a part of it.

When he returned from Iran, his movement was not destroyed because he was seen as one of the "allowed" extremists.

beejaay:
How about knights in the church?every Religious group in this country have some group of soldiers like this, dressed in different ways..

Starting media war on the zakys already!!!

Religions is really the opium of the masses....

I don't think the Zaria people will agree with you on this. You can travel to Zaria and ask how people were terrorize by this your so called religious soldier. Don't ever compare this movement with other church or religious "soldiers", I repeat don't ever.

It seems you have more information than the government

kayroc:
The North doesn't know what they are doing by going after el-Zakzaky at this point. The northern generals that held sway back in the 80s when this thing started did nothing to crush him because he was one of them back then.

Iran has been giving these guys strong funding and Shiism has always been a religion that produces martyrs and praises martyrdom. Some of the first suicide bombers were Shiites and the Ayatollah once described suicide bombs as thier own nuclear weapons.

IPOB would not face Nigerian State security like this. Not even OPC would face police to this extreme. Niger Delta militants only did hit and run raids on soft targets, but these Shiites are going live to Abuja to show themselves. Have we seen this before? Of course not.

What Buhari doesn't understand is that the Shia have always been suicidally brace fighters. They are fighting in Yemen with just AK 47 and camels against Saudi Air Force and have not given up even though thier children are starving to death. These people are like Hydra. Kill one and that death only rallies more to the war.

Zakzaky and IMN has come to stay. When they warned this same Buhari in the 80s about this same Zakzaky, he didn't do anything- he was too busy jailing Igbos and other Southerners. It was Alex Ekwueme he could see to chase around. Now he is here holding Zakzaky because he knows he has no good options here.

If Zakzaky is released, the number of converts to Shiism will grow because not means government backed down. If they kill him, his Shiites will begin suicide attacks.

Stupid APC politicians. When they worked to give Zakzaky weapons in run-up to 2015 elections they didn't know. I hope you still remember that time that Iranians were bursted trying to move container of weapons to Zakzaky during Jonathan era? This was who they wanted to give it to. Instead of Jonathan to go after those traitorous Generals, he listened to so-called Northern Elders and killed the case. Now see.

Zakzaky is simply asking for what they promised him, which is greater autonomy for his sect and full recognition to operate in Zaria, as well as 2 seats in House of Assembly. It was not too much to give him for the number of people he was willing to sacrifice, but el-Rufai is afraid and ran to Buhari saying he is being blackmailed.

Watch as these Shiites show that they are not afraid tonight and die. For now, they have not started attacking Kaduna House of Assembly because they still want Buhari to release Zakzaky first. El-Rufai that thinks that he can crush Shia from behind Buhari in run up to 2023 doesn't know what he has done.

Let us be watching.

I didn't see any weapon or a machetes in thier hands here but but chanting �

plaindealer:
I used to think this is a religious cult, but after watching their propaganda videos and seeing their military stance and profile, it's safe to conclude that the FG did the right thing by curtailing their activities. This is a clear and present danger that the FG must nip in the bud ASAP.

Their parades are well organized professionally structured with tall and well-built members with obvious strong military training, even the women are not left out.


This is more than a religious cult/


This is definitely not a religion, this looks more like a state within a state and a non-state military outfit within Nigeria.

Islamisation of The Nigeria state Buhari & presidency cabals Yorubaxit
With the recent spike in Terrorist (herdsmen, shites, etc) activities all over Nigeria (radical and unprovoked killings), it's safe to say this is Jubril Al Sudan aka (Muhammad Buhari) next phase in his brutal Islamisation agenda.
Before you can understand this brouhaha, you need to head to the world stage(America & Britain Vs Iran and it's radical Islam movement
Jun 4 2017 the original president Muhammad Buhari (old & fragile as seen in the clip released by the US media) was invited to the US Whitehouse to give an account on why Christians were being killed, he blamed it on radical Islam's from Muslim countries (mainly Iran and it's counterparts).
Excerpt from the video
"This are people are mainly professionals trained to shoot & kill all their life"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH6VwjX617g
A week after this meeting, over 200 Christian were killed in a massacre in plateau State
After this interview the cabal were angry at how the original Buhari could divulge such information, soon after this he was taken out of the picture and replaced with the more younger and vibrant (Jubril).
YORUBA Wakeup
Nigeria have been infiltrated and as time goes by and seemingly backed by the impunity of the Jubril (buhari) Administration, This terrorist have gotten bolder killing our people (sons and daughters) without fear (they are in our midst) leaving deaths & destruction in their wake, this people won't stop unless they are stop.
Some Yoruba states have been compromised on the government level, look closely
The Solution
Yorubaland States should come together and break off from Nigeria while we still can, we've got all the resources we need right here or we (Yoruba) risk everything, look closely and you will see a nation where Hope has being replaced by something else. How did we get here as a country, a nation once revered for bringing liberty to Africa but the deeds have been done
Let's take bake our Money, Control, Security from the Federal government, Nigeria (an emblem of massive debt & corruption ) have served it purpose ( which is to gain independence from our colonial masters) and it should be led to rest, the tribes have got noting keeping them together as a nation
If you think this cabals will relish the presidency in 2023, you are dreaming (only a Northerner) and they've got the votes.
The LORDS will be done. Non negotiable
If Brexit is happening "Yorubaxit" can happen, we be the size of Ghana and that's perfectly okay, we support evil out of fear (Fela, mko Abiola, funsho Williams and lot of others paid the price) but no more.
YORUBA ANI LATI RO NU OOO
Their War on Religion will fail utterly, believer keep your faith, ( All authority belongs to Christ).
We need Guidance (Christ) for we fight not against flesh but spiritual evil (roaring lion) seeking to devour Nigeria. Exalt God and He will exalt you

nabiz:
everybody have freedom of worship and right as far as your right or mode of worship does no violate other people right. Forget about post a picture. The question should be HAVE THEIR ACTIVITIES VIOLATE SOMEBODY'S RIGHT? OR IS IT AGAINST NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION?

Yes, it does... Ask the people of Zaria, they will tell you the havoc they have caused since 1980

plaindealer:
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I don't subscribe to lies and fabricated rubbish and tribal sentiments.

Must you low self-esteem and tribe obsessed people turn every conversation into igbo this and igbo that?

Is the topic about igbo people?

You people are so tribally disgusting and annoying.

c dis wan wey dey talk ur piple dey useless and blinded by stupidity go nd have sense

Remember,when boko haram started,they were not bearing arms...but began this way.

Cacawa2:
How about boys brigade, man-o-war, Salvation army?

Exactly the same thing in my mind now. We have different voluntary organisations in our churches and mosques which are not armed but just a social organisations in the religious environment. Btw, what about sharia police in the north being propelled by the Sunni Muslims which is gradually turning into terrorist organisation?
Whoever the OP be, s/he is a Sunni Muslim terrorist and sympathiser.

1shortblackboy:
government propaganda machine una well done. all the pictures posted are of people marching with flags. no weapons spotted. which law have they broken? boys brigade and the Royal rangers of assemblies of God all have marching parades like this why picking on the shiits. stop bringing the islamic dichotomy of the sunnis and shiit issue into Nigeria





pic1 boys brigade lagos
pic 2 boys brigade yenegoa
pic 3&4 royal rangers

You bringing in boys bridge and royal rangers is awesomely stupid, have those two groups clashed with police or any military agency before