A40:
Melo needs to go to Europe or China abeg. This whole song and dance is getting painful to watch

DeeMain:


Just read what you wrote here.and read your earlier accusations. You'll find there's no match. Where is the wild accusation that he accepts all the praise and none of the blames?

If your argument is that Lebron's needs as a superstar or media celebrity and the fan boys frenzy can affect the team or some individual players or like Griffin said his ability to enjoy his job of managing the team, that's a fair argument. Not many can handle the pressure that comes with Lebron.

His media and fan boys followership are as a result of what he brings to the table in any of the team's he's played on. He is a special player. He earned it.

He enjoys the spotlight just like Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan in their days but to cook up lies and mischaracterize him and his legacy is pure hating.

Was watching Isiah Thomas's The Point show and saw how the Splash brothers were gushing about how special Lebron is and what it feels like playing against him and how the Warriors try to counteract the Lebron effect in their games and Isiah Thomas comparing the Lebron effect to how they felt playing against MJ and how the Pistons prepared elaborate plans for him. You would think they were fan boys too but no, they were acknowleging how rare what Lebron brings to the table is, his greatness.

No need debating the rest of your criticism. At least you have the honesty to accept your hating.

Roland17:


You guys have absolutely no argument to make in this case and it is very clear with your emotional takes. I made my case and highlighted the onus of my argument and have stuck to it. More importantly my points have not delved away from the onus of my argument. Why is that anyone who criticizes LeBum is assumed to have taken shots at his legacy? Isn’t that a distressing proof that the man hates criticism and detests taking responsibilities? Is LeBum above fair criticisms that make logical sense especially from people who have the credibility? You are even helping me make my point with the Splash brothers comment because they clearly said “playing against” versus “playing with”.

Where is all the noise about Charles Barkley’s comment? Everyone wants to bark at Griffin because he is not a former player but no one wanted to attack Chuck when he called LeBum whiny? They know Chuck will baptize them as e dey hot!!!Yet you guys think LeBum is tough skinned!! Once again, the media is controlling the narrative of this discuss by saying Griffin is nothing without LeBum and to that I will say “fair argument” but on the flip side Griffin also gave LeBum everything he asked for to win a championship even to the detriment of the Cavs team and the Cavs are paying for it today.

May I remind you that Griffin gave Bums like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith ridiculous extensions and took the Cavs over the luxury tax numerous times because they are LeBum’s minions? Who gave TT a $80 million buck extension in the NBA? Today, the Cavs are stuck with contracts of those two Bums and guess what? they are unable to move them. Yet Griffin has not earned the right to criticize LeBum? Griffin has on record given LeBum praise for his greatness and talent but the one time he makes a fair criticism he is a hater? You guys are ridiculous and unbelievable at this point.

So a fair shot against LeBum is always because he is hated. He enjoys the media accolades yet he is not tough enough to handle the criticisms when they come from the same media. I won’t be shocked if Griffin is termed racist because he called out LeBum.

Roland17:




"LeBron is getting all the credit and none of the blame. And that's not fun for people,"

When has Lebron taken responsibility for anything that has happened to his teams? When and where? Where was he when a sick Dirk and the Mavs took him to the cleaners? Should I go on? The mere fact that LeBum's fans can remotely argue that Griffin's comments are slanderous buttresses my opinion that LeBum is overtly sensitive, hates criticisms and detest taking responsibilities. The championship LeBum won in Cleaveland means just as much as any he won with the "Assembly". So what is the deal? Griffin assembled talents around Lebum to ensure he achieved his goal of winning a ring in his home town, yet, Griffin is not good enough or lacks the credibility to speak his mind about LeBum? Does Griffin have a point? Because apart from AD, no other superstar during this offseason was interested in teaming up with LeBum. Could Griffin be saying the hard truth no one is courageous enough to let out?

Again what did Griffin say that can be said to be grievous or demonic against LeBum? When LeBum's team win, he gets all the accolades and glory but when he loses, it is the fault of others. isn't that the truth? The mainstream media is driven by his machination and despite his numerous failings during the finals, someone else took the heat for his mistakes. Do you guys want me to write the litany of excuses that have been made for LeBum's failings that do not include LeBum taking responsibility? Worse still, important shots like the Ray Allen shot, Kyrie clutch never get relevance they deserve in the narration of LeBum's glory. My argument has absolutely nothing to do with D. Griffin, for all I care, the man is in a better place but please and please, don't come with how he is the best thing since sliced bread, yet, he can not chew sourdough when it is hot.

DeeMain:


Griffin is grief stricken and has backtracked. He says it's the media circus and the pressure it brought on him that was the problem, fullstop.

The criticism about the pressure and stress involved in trying to deliver rings every year is fair. Same as the long term effect of such a short term focused strategy.

I don't see it as a Lebron problem alone though, I see it as a management decision and the consequences therefrom.

But there was one ring and four consecutive play off finals to show for it.

Every other thing you said are lies and hate made flesh.

Hate is evil.

And a waste of human resource and energy.

Ocon:
— No star want to play with LeBron

— LeBron has never won anything without 2 All stars

Which one should we believe?

DeeMain:


Is this just pure hate or are you suggesting he shouldn't have commented over someone in authority slandering his legacy?

Roland17:


You guys have absolutely no argument to make in this case and it is very clear with your emotional takes. I made my case and highlighted the onus of my argument and have stuck to it. More importantly my points have not delved away from the onus of my argument. Why is that anyone who criticizes LeBum is assumed to have taken shots at his legacy? Isn’t that a distressing proof that the man hates criticism and detests taking responsibilities? Is LeBum above fair criticisms that make logical sense especially from people who have the credibility? You are even helping me make my point with the Splash brothers comment because they clearly said “playing against” versus “playing with”.

Where is all the noise about Charles Barkley’s comment? Everyone wants to bark at Griffin because he is not a former player but no one wanted to attack Chuck when he called LeBum whiny? They know Chuck will baptize them as e dey hot!!!Yet you guys think LeBum is tough skinned!! Once again, the media is controlling the narrative of this discuss by saying Griffin is nothing without LeBum and to that I will say “fair argument” but on the flip side Griffin also gave LeBum everything he asked for to win a championship even to the detriment of the Cavs team and the Cavs are paying for it today.

May I remind you that Griffin gave Bums like Tristan Thompson and JR Smith ridiculous extensions and took the Cavs over the luxury tax numerous times because they are LeBum’s minions? Who gave TT a $80 million buck extension in the NBA? Today, the Cavs are stuck with contracts of those two Bums and guess what? they are unable to move them. Yet Griffin has not earned the right to criticize LeBum? Griffin has on record given LeBum praise for his greatness and talent but the one time he makes a fair criticism he is a hater? You guys are ridiculous and unbelievable at this point.

So a fair shot against LeBum is always because he is hated. He enjoys the media accolades yet he is not tough enough to handle the criticisms when they come from the same media. I won’t be shocked if Griffin is termed racist because he called out LeBum.

ZedanDevonshire:


Of course he did and like he said, the reaction off of that proves that its the media and the mindless haters that make it all unbearable. They saw what they wanted to see and ran with what they wanted the deluded bunch. Just look at them crawling out of their caves to blame lebron by claiming lebron never gets any blame. LMAO!

A40:
Bro you get time to dey salaye sha

ZedanDevonshire:
Dillian whyte once again proving my theory. All those UK heavyweights are juiced to the gills and their corrupt commissions from UKAD to the BBB of C are covering for them. Its shameless! They keep accusing each other but the truth is they're all dope heads. People forget that Fury failed for Nandrolone a while back, Whyte was banned for two years for pissing hot and hes pissed hot again and AJ well, no one needs to tell you that guy is on rocket fuel. Apparently the UKAD gives him testosterone "exemptions" because his natural levels are "low". No wonder once went to the US and got in the VADA pool he got his as- whooped by a fat man. As a matter of fact it seems hes out of the pool again. For shame! if i were Andy i would stay as far away from UK as possible for that rematch. I'm glad he knows its a trap.

Deontay Wilder is the only clean heavyweight period!

aliondo:
Melo being open here and saying it as it is...Now he's looking for who to sign him after bragging that he can't come off the bench....

Attitude and Character really plays a whole lot in career endeavours

DeeMain:


It's really crazy bro. Lebron was literally lynched and skinned for the 2 finals losses with the Heats. How these players survive and overcome such mass mobbing should teach all humanity a thing or two about the invincibility of the human spirit.

Dudes here are trying to rewrite history because of sheer hate.

birdman:


I know rite..

So make Lebron no talk, make e no defend himself. Just absorb lie and take it like dat. LOL

Greatness invokes hate. If you want to be great, remember this. peoples be giving reasons why they hate you but na smoke screen. Its just hate. If you like employ 10000 people, send 100000 to school. Still gon hate

Its ok tho, baba God that made you great still dey ur side

birdman:


I know rite..

So make Lebron no talk, make e no defend himself. Just absorb lie and take it like dat. LOL

Greatness invokes hate. If you want to be great, remember this. peoples be giving reasons why they hate you but na smoke screen. Its just hate. If you like employ 10000 people, send 100000 to school. Still gon hate

Its ok tho, baba God that made you great still dey ur side

DeeMain:


It's really crazy bro. Lebron was literally lynched and skinned for the 2 finals losses with the Heats. How these players survive and overcome such mass mobbing should teach all humanity a thing or two about the invincibility of the human spirit.

Dudes here are trying to rewrite history because of sheer hate.

Roland17:


I have never liked UK boxers and I have made it known on this thread even to my buddy A40 who seems to be attracted to some of them. They lack chin, technique and are lazy fighters with big mouth. Dillian Whyte is a circus and I honestly don’t know how he got a 3-0 decision from the officials when Rivas beat the devil out of him.

birdman:


from jump melo had that pride. of the three rookies melo, wade and lebron, melo was supposed to get that ring first. he was the most skilled for sure.

any GM that takes Melo is risking his job...it could blow up bad

aliondo:


You're right mate..

Roland17:


The fact that they are even celebrating that Griffin appeared on The Jump to retract/ clarify his statement is what cracks me up because there is so much predictability in the action. Griffin spoke his mind and honest truth with SI and I knew it was a matter of time he gets pressured into retracting.

For those of you celebrating the retracting, let me educate you that after SI released the interview, LeBum’s camp approached Griffin and for those who question if LeBum controls the narratives surrounding his news or mainstream media, this is your answer. I am going to bury this argument because it is very obvious the Queen can do no wrong.

SmooshCHN:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0tH9_MAh8r/?igshid=15t6vnxf5ldi2

A40:

Lmaooo Griffin clearly got bullied and ran to backtrack his comments. Tragic

Honestly Bronsexuals want to be TD Jakes and Steve Harvey all of a sudden. This joke will never not be funny. These are the same bunch that spent 4 odd years calling KD a snake.

The same people that make crude jokes of Steph Curry's wife. Assigning her ownership to another man.

The same people that swear MJ got his old man killed want to suddenly start preaching to the choir. Can you believe the nerve of these hypocritical clowns talmbout hate as if they are not the most vile and disrespectful bunch of fans known to man.

Even LeShannon Sharpe got a taste of the wrath of retarded Bronsexuals the other day. David Griffin said what he said, said his truth. And LeNomad's response showed he struck a nerve, unfortunately Griffin was too much of a poosie to back it up

A40:

Lmaooo Griffin clearly got bullied and ran to backtrack his comments. Tragic

Honestly Bronsexuals want to be TD Jakes and Steve Harvey all of a sudden. This joke will never not be funny. These are the same bunch that spent 4 odd years calling KD a snake.

The same people that make crude jokes of Steph Curry's wife. Assigning her ownership to another man.

The same people that swear MJ got his old man killed want to suddenly start preaching to the choir. Can you believe the nerve of these hypocritical clowns talmbout hate as if they are not the most vile and disrespectful bunch of fans known to man.

Even LeShannon Sharpe got a taste of the wrath of retarded Bronsexuals the other day. David Griffin said what he said, said his truth. And LeNomad's response showed he struck a nerve, unfortunately Griffin was too much of a poosie to back it up

donlittle25:
wait? I miss this o

Roland17:


That is why I love and respect Sir Charles Barkley a.k.a the Chukster!!! The man does not back track and owes not man any apologies. He called LeBum “Whiny” and his demand for more and more trades in his final season with the Cavs as “Inappropriate” especially when you already have 2 other AllStars. When LeBum responded by calling him a Hater, Chuck did not back down, he doubled down saying he was surprised LeBum took a fair criticism too personal and to far. Everybody including LeBum’s camp respected themselves and stayed away because Chuck will give it to you as e dey hot and he has the platform to promote it.

Roland17:


That is why I love and respect Sir Charles Barkley a.k.a the Chukster!!! The man does not back track and owes not man any apologies. He called LeBum “Whiny” and his demand for more and more trades in his final season with the Cavs as “Inappropriate” especially when you already have 2 other AllStars. When LeBum responded by calling him a Hater, Chuck did not back down, he doubled down saying he was surprised LeBum took a fair criticism too personal and to far. Everybody including LeBum’s camp respected themselves and stayed away because Chuck will give it to you as e dey hot and he has the platform to promote it.