jesmond3945:
Are the rulers not africans? is still the same thing. It is actually a black vs white thing because you don't know how this people see you. You live in a big bubble. I dont think you have lived with whites for more than a year. I am not saying religion is our problem, I said they gave us their own religion and way of life, their education but you cannot use another man's way of life to solve your problem.. The man stole the money went to the west to keep it and they gladly took it from him to develop their country, thats how you should put it. Then when it was demanded back from them, they started giving stories. Why has dieziani never been repatriated? The white encourage corruption in Africa because they benefit from it but smile at you that they are against it. Dangote is building a refinery. Algeria has refinery, even morroco and south africa. it is only Nigeria that ships it out because of bad leaders and a country united under a white man's experiment. Is phone manufacturing your problem? Countries that manufacture phones don't have crude oil. Does Uk or USA manufacture phone? they only do design and ship it to china to manufacture for them.
Is Paystack not enough for you? Isn't Nigerians manufacturing drones and cars? What of Zinox? The truth you are a black man who sees the whiteman as better than africans not knowing that our circumstance and culture is different.

Hahaha you're a serious joke, I am laughing really hard. Did I hear zinox or whatever you call it? Bro with our resources, The white men wouldn't stand a chance to compete with us at anything, the moment you realize we are underperforming here in Africa the better for you.

jesmond3945:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFwHdykbHbU
Listen to a true african. Remove self hatred from your psyche. Enough said

I am enjoying the blame game. so because I pointed out our laziness and crude ways of doing things, it is now called hatred abi? Keep the blame game rolling.

stanliwise:
I am enjoying the blame game. so because I pointed out our laziness and crude ways of doing things, it is now called hatred abi? Keep the blame game rolling.

it is called self hatred. You hate yourself for being a black man. You see nothing good about being a balck man.

stanliwise:
Hahaha you're a serious joke, I am laughing really hard. Did I hear zinox or whatever you call it? Bro with our resources, The white men wouldn't stand a chance to compete with us at anything, the moment you realize we are underperforming here in Africa the better for you.

i am sorry for you. Every country has resources even europe they have resources. Why are you laughing about zinox? Does intel manufacture processors in US? Does apple manufacture phones in US? Does ARM manufacture processors in UK? Same thing with zinox. Infact zinox is more rugged than hp or even dell. It doesnt crash easily. Very good nigerian product. Let me tell if you dont know, all tech companies design and china or japan manufactures for them because of cheap labour and lax enviromental laws.

jesmond3945:
i am sorry for you. Every country has resources even europe they have resources. Why are you laughing about zinox? Does intel manufacture processors in US? Does apple manufacture phones in US? Does ARM manufacture processors in UK? Same thing with zinox. Infact zinox is more rugged than hp or even dell. It doesnt crash easily. Very good nigerian product. Let me tell if you dont know, all tech companies design and china or japan manufactures for them because of cheap labour and lax enviromental laws.

Quite the nonsense talk about zinox, Zinox is product that hasn't expanded it's market beyond petty supplies to government, if Nigeria was a serious country, zinox would be an Icon of Africa but sadly it isn't. Mind you I have a zinox desktop here in my house. So quit the stories.
And stop trying to educate me about how phones and cars are produced by different companies, fact is you're writing a saop opera story that wouldn't explain why we have bad roads, dilapidated infrastructure and why till today we couldn't celebrate 1-year of uninterrupted power supply.

If you're not an just a fanatic you would have notice Nigeria has oil that when properly managed the wealth would out muscle even the US and China combined together. You would be shocked that Ferrari would be a Cab here in Nigeria. Almost all Nigerian would be millionaires. You are really just annoying me with your self pity talk. Africa is the most blessed of all continent if you talk of natural resources but Apple inc Net worth comfortably out muscled the full GDP of the entire Africa.
We should be truely ashamed. I shake my head for you and your medocrity mindset.

jesmond3945:
it is called self hatred. You hate yourself for being a black man. You see nothing good about being a balck man.

same excuse as always for being a mediocre.

stanliwise:
Quite the nonsense talk about zinox, Zinox is product that hasn't expanded it's market beyond petty supplies to government, if Nigeria was a serious country, zinox would be an Icon of Africa but sadly it isn't. Mind you I have a zinox desktop here in my house. So quit the stories.
And stop trying to educate me about how phones and cars are produced by different companies, fact is you're writing a saop opera story that wouldn't explain why we have bad roads, dilapidated infrastructure and why till today we couldn't celebrate 1-year of uninterrupted power supply.

If you're not an just a fanatic you would have notice Nigeria has oil that when properly managed the wealth would out muscle even the US and China combined together. You would be shocked that Ferrari would be a Cab here in Nigeria. Almost all Nigerian would be millionaires. You are really just annoying me with your self pity talk. Africa is the most blessed of all continent if you talk of natural resources but Apple inc Net worth comfortably out muscled the full GDP of the entire Africa.
We should be truely ashamed. I shake my head for you and your medocrity mindset.

let me see the picture of your zinox desktop. If you are angry with Nigeria, thats fine but just know every country have their own problems look at what is happening in hong kong. Oil wealth cannot make you outmuscle any body but ICT and technology. If you want ferrari to be a cab here, please ask yourself whether it is a cab in UK. Apple did it because you bought into their propaganda here but china never did. Like I said oil would only give you 100 billion, ICT would give you 1 trillion. You can start by learning how to code and become the next apple.

jesmond3945:
let me see the picture of your zinox desktop. If you are angry with Nigeria, thats fine but just know every country have their own problems look at what is happening in hong kong. Oil wealth cannot make you outmuscle any body but ICT and technology. If you want ferrari to be a cab here, please ask yourself whether it is a cab in UK. Apple did it because you bought into their propaganda here but china never did. Like I said oil would only give you 100 billion, ICT would give you 1 trillion. You can start by learning how to code and become the next apple.

You are just a wretched mediocre see how intelligent you escape the "bad roads, poor infrastructures, lack of power supply and insecirity and quickly jump into the apple topic" hahahhahah . since you can only blame others for Africa mismanagement and claim that apple was rich because of propaganda. I don't argue with trolls and naive mindset. Saved the remaining of your victim mentality you're carry, strong hold of the past and tell this to your children when they come to see the Africa we have created for them. Tell them the whites evil was what left us in mismanagement and poor leadership after more than 70 years of freedom. Tell them the white propaganda stop us from creating a better life for ourselves.
Don't expect a reply from me if your next response is about mediocrity and pointing fingers.

stanliwise:
You are just a wretched mediocre see how intelligent you escape the "bad roads, poor infrastructures, lack of power supply and insecirity and quickly jump into the apple topic" hahahhahah . since you can only blame others for Africa mismanagement and claim that apple was rich because of propaganda. I don't argue with trolls and naive mindset. Saved the remaining of your victim mentality you're carry, strong hold of the past and tell this to your children when they come to see the Africa we have created for them. Tell them the whites evil was what left us in mismanagement and poor leadership after more than 70 years of freedom. Tell them the white propaganda stop us from creating a better life for ourselves.
Don't expect a reply from me if your next response is about mediocrity and pointing fingers.

you have descended so low to insult as usual. Not inteliigent as I taught no thanks to your upbringing.

@stanliwise
U really have time?
The moment he kept dodging ques about
bad road, power supply, bad hospitals, u shud have left him.
Maybe its Apple's fault we have bad road filled with potholes.
And he dodged south africa too. They were colonized for a longer period yet no bad rounds like the ones found in Nigeria.
So whats the issue?
Rain falls and NEPA takes the "light" as its normally called, is that the fault of slave trade?

makavele:
@stanliwise
U really have time?
The moment he kept dodging ques about
bad road, power supply, bad hospitals, u shud have left him.
Maybe its Apple's fault we have bad road filled with potholes.
And he dodged south africa too. They were colonized for a longer period yet no bad rounds like the ones found in Nigeria.
So whats the issue?
Rain falls and NEPA takes the "light" as its normally called, is that the fault of slave trade?

Bro don't mind me jare, at a point I was enjoying the discussion until I noticed I was talking to a deluded fellow and a nairaland troll. I wish I knew sooner. Thanks BTW

@stanliwise
You're too correct in your every words
that guy is just twisting his words and can't accept the truth...
i as an upcoming programmer my intention is to bring new software and hardware from Africa to the world...
OP that said there is nothing to code again maybe he is not serious as like me before but as of now i am analysing every apps and Games created by white men to bring out new one especially the one African countries will first love...
African and white people are different just as America and China are so we can make difference and stop looking forward to them in aspect of our lives likes...

Badilstical:

You might be just a programmer that has no business acument , and I wouldn't blame you for that but in Africa as a programmer the hustle and bustle of an Africans should push to be not just a coder but a person sieze up any opportunity and add a little to it.
I drop here but wanted to say more

I doubt that his a programmer.

cos if his one then he would have known that time is priceless.

it's funny how people have the time to come online and argue about baseless things that adds no value to them...

kudos to you guys una really get time to waste

tinkshak:

Quote me anywhere "Nairaland is the greatest internet invention Africa has".

This comment is so cool. Check my profile for a thread discussing exactly this. I believe you should have one or two things to say.

MountainView:
I just want to contribute my own quota to the society, it just happens to be that there is little or nothing to contribute.

You are right. However, only Software Developers can have this thought. Believe me, Software Engineers always create new codes.
They build and update the IDEs (Visual Studio, Android Studio, etc).
They update programming languages to new versions.
They create new databases, structures and tools that the devs built on and use.

If this amaze you, check out the Nairaland App in my signature and also my profile for a thread discussing innovation.

Abcruz:
Figure it out learn to modify what has been done and create a better version of it.

Check my signature for the perfect example of this.

tinkshak:
.....Quantum Physics, TV Facebook, Instagram they were all invented by the whites, for a very particular reason, which is the fact that they are light years ahead of us(blacks)

Now let me ask you what has any black man invented in the last two centuries that you can mention?

If you watch Snake in the City on Discovery Family or NatGeo Wild, you'll see many episodes of snakes entering 'black homes' and they call the white guy/his gf for help removing it. I everytime I see those blacks trembling and shaking and keeping a distance away from the snake even after it's been captured safely. Most of these black are South Africans tho. The whites really blessed South-Africans.

This simple example makes me understand that a significant percentage of blacks have totally lost their heritage, culture, native sense and mostly the 'African Spirit' which ought to drive us as creative and fearless humans in the African jungle and cities as the cradle of all human life on Earth.

Even when a black man is given food to eat, he would still ask white man how to eat the food. (our mineral resources). In Nigeria, we basically depend on the whites intelligence to do every little thing.

In primary and secondary school, I was lashed for speaking my mother tongue in class, we called our own language vernacular. Right in our country, even after the whites have left for decades. Well, I do not argue about the white supremacy in intelligence though it cannot be overemphasized that our brain are actually equal in capacity, comprehension and intelligence. .

We just need a new orientation. A new culture and jurisdiction for the future generations.

If you want to do one more thing that matters, why don't you join an Open Source project @OP, send me a message or chat me up on the App in my signature.

wamiikechukwu:


I doubt that his a programmer.

cos if his one then he would have known that time is priceless.

it's funny how people have the time to come online and argue about baseless things that adds no value to them...

kudos to you guys una really get time to waste

So when code you don't take breaks. I'm not that kind of coder.
Yes time is precious but taking break and browsing through Nairaland to free up my mind from difficult tasks is not waste of time man.
And for you in formation I was trained in one of best coding school in Africa 3rd year of raw experience in javascript and python languages

@stanliwise

Any ideas why I would be getting all these ?

Free the guy,
Let him go and read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" written by John Perkins and other similar work by the same author such as "A Game as Old as Empire: the Secret World of Economic Hit Men and the Web of Global Corruption (2007),", "The Secret History of the American Empire (2007)" and Hoodwinked: An Economic Hit Man Reveals Why the World Financial Markets Imploded – and What We Need to Do to Remake Them (2009).

Probably his opinions about Africa slow pace development might change.


See Wikipedia link about the book

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

jesmond3945:
in every society there would always be a willing tool. Even judas betrayed Jesus. Do you know whether they were manipulated and threatened to do such after much firepower and carnage? Of course the history writers would not tell you that. Lol. Imagine raping someone for 75 years and then leaving him alone for 65 years, what strength is left for such an individual? The israelites wandered in the desert for 40 years, you can read exodus to know the consequences of that. Who told you that? Lol. Go and read history my friend. This people killed and raped our people even as colonial masters. Look at what is happening now were foreign bosses are enslaving and victimizing their nigerian employees. Why did they kill thomas sankara through proxy? You think this people are not ruling africa by proxy? Why did france intervene in Gabon?
I am telling you the whiteman sees himself as more superior than you. Even a 3 year old white girl sees you as a monkey and I am trying to tell you how to overcome which china did but you are still stuck in a history the whiteman handed down to you. Read chinua achebe it would help you.

Naijaepic:
Free the guy,
Let him go and read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" written by John Perkins and other similar work by the same author such as "A Game as Old as Empire: the Secret World of Economic Hit Men and the Web of Global Corruption (2007),", "The Secret History of the American Empire (2007)" and Hoodwinked: An Economic Hit Man Reveals Why the World Financial Markets Imploded – and What We Need to Do to Remake Them (2009).

Probably his opinions about Africa slow pace development might change.


See Wikipedia link about the book

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

mtchew

jesmond3945:
i am sorry for you. Every country has resources even europe they have resources. Why are you laughing about zinox? Does intel manufacture processors in US? Does apple manufacture phones in US? Does ARM manufacture processors in UK? Same thing with zinox. Infact zinox is more rugged than hp or even dell. It doesnt crash easily. Very good nigerian product. Let me tell if you dont know, all tech companies design and china or japan manufactures for them because of cheap labour and lax enviromental laws.

Nice one bro,
plus, the first fastest computer micro processor was built by a Nigerian o

tinkshak:


Quote me anywhere "Nairaland is the greatest internet invention Africa has".

I disagree with you on this, Paypal was developed by Elon Musk. What about SpaceX

MICHEAL346:


Nice one bro,
plus, the first fastest computer micro processor was built by a Nigerian o

Stop saying rubbish.

this topic has effectively been derailed

tinkshak:


Bro, I don't really think so, just take a look at the major inventions in the world from the internet to mobile phones to the idea of cloud computing, even computing itself, 4G, 5G, Quantum Physics, TV Facebook, Instagram they were all invented by the whites, for a very particular reason, which is the fact that they are light years ahead of us(blacks)

Now let me ask you what has any black man invented in the last two centuries that you can mention?



as for Nigeria, it's very impossible to create something that works except you have the finance to fund it,

Nairaland was created in 2004 or so, and the reason Nairaland is so popular today is because of the fact that it came at a time when so many people didn't even understand what the internet is all about,

Quote me anywhere "Nairaland is the greatest internet invention Africa has".

Very obtuse, self degrading, and incurably myopic.

stanliwise:
Stop mincing my words, I never said Africans sold themselves into slavery, I said It's rulers also participated in the slavery. How can one sell itself into a journey of torture and torment. Didn't I specify than whitemen bought black slaves from cheifs, kings and rulers. So stop twisting this into black vs white. Africa has rested on this slavery of a thing so much. It is high time we develop our selfs, ridding off what ever advancement in modern science and knowledge we have reached now is nothing but backwardness. Mind you the white didn't bring religion to us, our fathers and mothers worship gods and the likes, Christianity and islam is not the problem of Nigeria. A man that stole billions of Naira without been arrested and money retrieved is the source of our downfall. Majority of Africa country are poor because of mismanagement and corruption. Did the white teach us this corrupt practices that they themselves don't do in their country?
Africa has alot of natural resources, but all we do is to ship them out to the whites to refine for us. Is that the way to go? Are the white responsible for this? Are the white responsible for Africans not having a company that manufacture phones here In Africa? Did they force us to buy their Apple and sony?
Bro please stop this game already, you could go till night and complain bitterly of all the past evil Africans has experienced but it is not a justification that Africa has not proven themselves in recent times.
I am a proud blackman but I need to state the truth about my own continent Africa. and the truth is this..... Posterity would not be happy with us if they find us like this.

This is what china you mentioned did, they simple developed themselves and not sit all day and point fingers, although recently some of there action are becoming overblown but that is because they are now self sufficient.

I share same... Sorry for what I wrote earlier. It's because that first point of yours just came out of nowhere and wasn't totally relative to the topic.

I believe, like you do, that Africans should stop the blame game and move on.

jesmond3945:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFwHdykbHbU
Listen to a true african. Remove self hatred from your psyche. Enough said

Where is the self hatred? He has valid points.Africans and to a large extent, blacks in general should do away with the blame game.

His first comment may have come out harshly and out of nowhere...but if by this time you don't see his reasons, then you're just being stubborn for nothing.

Thoughts like yours encourage mediocrity and laxity in Africans. If you keep looking for excuses everywhere, you will find excuses for everything, and you will ultimately be left behind.

I believe that's Paul Kagame who you called a true African because he came upstage and said what you wanted to hear... But this same man has been in power for decades... He is building a strong personality, but not strong institutions. If he's made away with, Rwanda becomes shattered pebbles. He's part of the problem.

Xandelle:

Where is the self hatred? He has valid points.Africans and to a large extent, blacks in general should do away with the blame game.

His first comment may have come out harshly and out of nowhere...but if by this time you don't see his reasons, then you're just being stubborn for nothing.

Thoughts like yours encourage mediocrity and laxity in Africans. If you keep looking for excuses everywhere, you will find excuses for everything, and you will ultimately be left behind.

I believe that's Paul Kagame who you called a true African because he came upstage and said what you wanted to hear... But this same man has been in power for decades... He is building a strong personality, but not strong institutions. If he's made away with, Rwanda becomes shattered pebbles. He's part of the problem.

i beg to disagree. he is building institutions, he just opened african's first smart phone manufacturing plant. The day I would stop blaming whiteman is when shell and exxon leave Nigeria and europe still buy oil from us which I know won't happen. Are you not concerned that these companies have been sucking us since independence? are they not tired? they give nnpc 50% and take 50% back to their countries in the name of JV. How can you develop with only 50% of your wealth? Yes it is self hatred, you know why they systematically plundered us which made us look to them for help and despising our efforts in the process.