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Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by LordReed(m): 4:45pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
So sane men still exist

Didn't know you are active on romance section, should have mentioned
LoL, I'm not active here but I am following you so I see when you post topics.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 4:47pm On Aug 19, 2019
JONNYSPUTE:
.. You become a feminists because your dad was beating your mom?. Oh,that's very good but mind you that this feminism of a thing recently is causing more harm than good in most families due to the misconception of the ideology by many people who claim to be feminists. I don't and will never support beating a woman but we should all be careful less we distort the concept of marriage and families in general. Peace.
What is the concept of marriage?
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 4:50pm On Aug 19, 2019
ubunja:
dude for real. Go talk to someone about your childhood issues. You need to confront those wounds before you can start your own family. You need to heal
An aspect of you I appreciate,even though we disagree on alot of things.

I just wish you extend this concern and advice to ladies to
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by ubunja(m): 4:54pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
An aspect of you I appreciate,even though we disagree on alot of things.

I just wish you extend this concern and advice to ladies to
But you ladies have each other for that
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 4:55pm On Aug 19, 2019
ubunja:
But you ladies have each other for that
Damn! So males should help males and females should help females?
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by ubunja(m): 4:59pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
Damn! So males should help males and females should help females?
the only time males and females must meet is for sex.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 5:03pm On Aug 19, 2019
budaatum:
I'll give you 4 so you can pick one.

Fewer girls go to school than boys.
Girls don't inherit property.
Most companies have discriminatory marriage rules that oppress women.
Most societies have religious doctrines that show women in a negative light.

You want to know the most annoying thing? If Mary had not educated Jesus with her Holy Spirit he would have ended up a saviour of wood like his father Joseph!
If this was in the time of the law program of God on earth, I would have fished you out wherever you are and KILL you because of this blasphemy and the name of the Lord will be glorified!!!
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by pansophist(m): 5:03pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
I always advocate for equal rights between two genders!
Infact I fight got the rights of all humans, including LGBT...so I am not a hypocrite. I don't eat my cake and wanna have it.

If ladies are male-haters,if they have a right reason for being so because of the opression they receive ,then is it bad?
If a gal was deprived of education,or ill treated for being female, should it be bad if she grows up hating males? As budaatum stated, there must be a cause for it
If you are for the rights of humans, as opposed to female privilege masked under feminazism, then you're an egalitarian. I'm an egalitarian, and one has to be nuts not to be one.

About women growing up hating men, in most cases, it's a misplaced hate, or exaggerated beyond proportion, at least in Nigeria. In a free society, being equal doesnt always provide equality of outcome, because if you let people to freely decide and do what they want, you'll never get a 50:50 result. Also, with every oppression and inequality women scream they experience, I can list the equivalent men experience as well, and in many cases, even worse off.

It is the solipsism and narcissism that is typical in today's women, that dissuade them from looking past their nose to see that suffering is cross gendered and cross culture. Men do not have a patriarchy meeting, to formulate ways to oppress women. Humans have comes a long way, and so far, both genders have teamed up together to fight tirany, oppressive regime, disease, protect their young, toil the ground, and innovate, just to reach the position we are today. It's a continued progress.

To look back in time and call this deliberate oppression is sick, and a despicable way to see how we've come along so far
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 5:04pm On Aug 19, 2019
ubunja:
the only time males and females must meet is for sex.
I have a feeling you have a dual personality it two people handles this moniker. I believe the person who put up smart stuffs on your miseducations is different from who typed this. Except you are being sarcastic
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:06pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
What is the concept of marriage?
... Agreement between two people to establish rights and obligations between them or their children. And why I said so in the context I used it was because,the misconception of feminism by some people is distorting it.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by ubunja(m): 5:07pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
I have a feeling you have a dual personality it two people handles this moniker. I believe the person who put up smart stuffs on your miseducations is different from who typed this. Except you are being sarcastic
I don't even know how to be sarcastic.

I'm dead serious
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 5:07pm On Aug 19, 2019
JONNYSPUTE:
... Agreement between two people to establish rights and obligations between them or their children. And why I said so in the context I used it was because,the misconception of feminism by some people is distorting it.
how does it distort it?
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by budaatum: 5:08pm On Aug 19, 2019
chidiebereuzoma:
If this was in the time of the law program of God on earth, I would have fished you out wherever you are and KILL you because of this blasphemy and the name of the Lord will be glorified!!!
You would not be the first Taliban terrorist and we do not expect you to be the last. We though fear no evil like yourself because the Lord protects us with a rod and a staff.

The evil works of satan do not glorify the Lord God Almighty.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by budaatum: 5:10pm On Aug 19, 2019
pansophist:
To look back in time and call this deliberate oppression is sick, and a despicable way to see how we've come along so far
It really is irrelevant whether it's deliberate or not. If it exists and is wrong it must be challenged.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:21pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
how does it distort it?
.. When the two people who are in agreement as husband and wife forgets the role each is supposed to play in the marriage,what do you think will happen.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 5:22pm On Aug 19, 2019
budaatum:
You would not be the first Taliban terrorist and we do not expect you to be the last. We though fear no evil like yourself because the Lord protects us with a rod and a staff.

The evil works of satan do not glorify the Lord God Almighty.
Shebi in my thread about Christians threatening and cursing,you kinda covered for them....
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 5:26pm On Aug 19, 2019
JONNYSPUTE:
.. When the two people who are in agreement as husband and wife forgets the role each is supposed to be play in the marriage,what do you think will happen.
roles? Gender roles? No one decides for a couple the roles they chose to, infact all humans should make their own choices. So if I wanna share bills with hubby 50-50,and we take turns in cooking and house chores,is that wrong? It is you guys ego that will never let women do what you do... stinking ego.
Set yourself free from roles imposed by you by society or any partner!
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 5:26pm On Aug 19, 2019
budaatum:
You would not be the first Taliban terrorist and we do not expect you to be the last. We though fear no evil like yourself because the Lord protects us with a rod and a staff.

The evil works of satan do not glorify the Lord God Almighty.
Death by beheading!
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by budaatum: 5:29pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
Shebi in my thread about Christians threatening and cursing,you kinda covered for them....
Not all who say "Lord Lord" are Christians, Michelle. Just as not all men are pigs so will some be turned away and told, "I know you not", for "small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it".
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:31pm On Aug 19, 2019
Michellekabod2:
roles? Gender roles? No one decides for a couple the roles they chose to, infact all humans should make their own choices. So if I wanna share bills with hubby 50-50,and we take turns in cooking and house chores,is that wrong? It is you guys ego that will never let women do what you do... stinking ego.
Set yourself free from roles imposed by you by society or any partner!
.. So my dear do you think that a wife who didn't understand the meaning of feminism will still have a smooth and happy home?. Again its never wrong to share house chores with your hubby 50/50 but its very wrong to start telling another woman who is doing hers alone that her husband is trampling on her rights. That's all.Every couple should be allowed to live the way they want.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by budaatum: 5:34pm On Aug 19, 2019
chidiebereuzoma:
Death by beheading!
You can't touch my head and need to stop dreaming.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by pansophist(m): 5:34pm On Aug 19, 2019
budaatum:
It really is irrelevant whether it's deliberate or not. If it exists and is wrong it must be challenged.
Now a question for you. The feminism philosophy dictates that the fight for "equality" has a domino effect, that is, if women are liberated, men will also be. In other words, feminist claims that they also fight for mens right.

In the light of the foregoing, can you expressly recite at least, one issues that affect only men, that feminist have successfully fought for and achieved?
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by budaatum: 5:57pm On Aug 19, 2019
pansophist:
Now a question for you. The feminism philosophy dictates that the fight for "equality" has a domino effect, that is, if women are liberated, men will also be. In other words, feminist claims that they also fight for mens right.

In the light of the foregoing, can you expressly recite at least, one issues that affect only men, that feminist have successfully fought for and achieved?
There really is not much that only affects men, if you think about it, though the battle for universal suffrage springs to mind, complex as it is. It is however true that everyone benefits from female equality. I'd say, except for a few irresponsible mother's who are much fewer than irresponsible men, we all know what influence our mother's have had on us. The female will after all have children of her own and it would be rather odd if she goes on to do what she herself fought against to her sons.

Despite all the rhetoric to the contrary, most of us adore our mother's far more than we do our fathers, and I'd bet we gave more to our mother's than our fathers in the last six months on the whole. There are reasons for that and I don't think stupidity is one of them.

The feminist philosophy is not about the benefit of the men though, but about equal opportunity for the women. You might imagine how better off parts of our nation would be if girls had the opportunity boys ought to have. Give it to the girls and they sure will ensure their children have greater opportunity in the end. The crown of the woman is in her offspring so she has no choice but to nurture it.

I don't think I answered your question properly though as it seems to be based on the false assumption of feminism being for the benefit of the man, which is not it's propelling philosophy.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 19, 2019
JONNYSPUTE:
.. So my dear do you think that a wife who didn't understand the meaning of feminism will still have a smooth and happy home?. Again its never wrong to share house chores with your hubby 50/50 but its very wrong to start telling another woman who is doing hers alone that her husband is trampling on her rights. That's all.Every couple should be allowed to live the way they want.
We don't force women to be feminist. As a feminist,I love the art of cooking...soooo much. I was once a caterer,so will I stop myself from doing what I like as a hobby?
All I am saying it is not by force for me to do the cooking as a mandatory chore.

We don't force people to see their husband as oppressors but rather condemn the action of patriarchy.i will not tell a woman to divorce her husband (except off course she asks my opinion or advice because what happens in their home is not my business) but that wouldn't stop me from saying females and males should be treated equally.

Besides don't you guys make fun of male virgins? Don't you guys call "weak" men women wrapper? Don't you guys advice yourselves?
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 7:24pm On Aug 19, 2019
pansophist:
Now a question for you. The feminism philosophy dictates that the fight for "equality" has a domino effect, that is, if women are liberated, men will also be. In other words, feminist claims that they also fight for mens right.

In the light of the foregoing, can you expressly recite at least, one issues that affect only men, that feminist have successfully fought for and achieved?
The very talk of feminism invokes the wrong notion(to ignorant people though)...no one has taken us serious so we aren't even yet to collectively achieve a thing for either genders...

Plus,many feminist (not wannabe feminists) have started handling bills, throwing their shots first at guys,and stand against violence towards men...i know of women personally that do this.
A news went viral of a lady assaulting a man, many praised him for not retailating because she was female but I cried foul and said he should take it up legally...I believe there are many others like me littered around the world
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by etrange: 10:28pm On Aug 19, 2019
ubunja:
continue competing and losing with men while clever girls like Regina Daniels use their pussy and youth to marry billionaires and live the lifestyle you all envy.

You think she'll ever worry about rent? Or where her next meal is coming from? Unlike yourself.

While you're online putting yourselves as equals to men, every little girl right now wishes to grow up to be like Regina. Not some feminist.
Still waiting for your counter logic....
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by etrange: 10:28pm On Aug 19, 2019
Ryan03:
i wish I can like your post over and over
Lol
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by etrange: 10:38pm On Aug 19, 2019
hayzed1090:
This stuff is very straight forward , no matter how and where ur arguments are coming from , there can never be EQUALITY BETWEEN MALE and FEMALE, the only thing possible is EQUITY. there are instances where male will be favoured and others where female will be favoured .
I'm glad we both agree the two genders have their forts (areas of better performance). None is superior, none is a second class human. Logically, this absence of superiority/inferiority invariably implies equality and that, my bro, is the equality of which we talk. Like I always say, it is also the need for equal opportunities and the absence of prejudice.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by ubunja(m): 11:32pm On Aug 19, 2019
etrange:
Still waiting for your counter logic....
continue chasing logic when we're showing you reality.

I'm not here to prove a point. I've shown you how a young woman's future is secure while the feminists you side with are broke AF. If that's not logic for you then go find it elsewhere cause you won't find it here with me.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by etrange: 1:13am On Aug 20, 2019
ubunja:
continue chasing logic when we're showing you reality.

I'm not here to prove a point. I've shown you how a young woman's future is secure while the feminists you side with are broke AF. If that's not logic for you then go find it elsewhere cause you won't find it here with me.
Ok.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by BigJoe19: 3:14am On Aug 20, 2019
Michellekabod2:
The very talk of feminism invokes the wrong notion(to ignorant people though)...no one has taken us serious so we aren't even yet to collectively achieve a thing for either genders...

Plus,many feminist (not wannabe feminists) have started handling bills, throwing their shots first at guys,and stand against violence towards men...i know of women personally that do this.
A news went viral of a lady assaulting a man, many praised him for not retailating because she was female but I cried foul and said he should take it up legally...I believe there are many others like me littered around the world
I have two questions for you

1. if a man slaps s woman is it okay for the woman to slap her own back.

2. If a woman slaps a man is it okay for the man to slap his own back.
Re: I No Longer Speak Up For Feminism by Nobody: 4:11am On Aug 20, 2019
BigJoe19:
I have two questions for you

1. if a man slaps s woman is it okay for the woman to slap her own back.

2. If a woman slaps a man is it okay for the man to slap his own back.
Yes for the two occasions.
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