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Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Beautyaddy: 8:24pm On Aug 19, 2019
ednut1:
he didn't deny it yesterday. His plan is clear.
How does any Nigerian migrate or get to the US/UK/Canada illegally? I don't think there's any.

What I sense is that some Nigerians will apply for either the visiting visa or student visa to travel legally to these countries.

However, what happens is that when they get approved of the visa they travel to those countries legally but along the line they now overstay their legal presence in these countries... that is when they become illegal or better term to use "undocumented immigrants" in those countries.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Beautyaddy: 8:25pm On Aug 19, 2019
FCBboy:
you see am not in support of illegal migration.

but....

Ambitious people need to leave and perhaps come back to show Buhari and other unfortunate leaders how things are done.
looool!!...You're joking right huh
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by ednut1(m): 8:29pm On Aug 19, 2019
Madlov3:
this guy is a stack illiterate. Please quote where I started i was going to travel illegally?
not here for insults. U wan go with tourist visa which you would overstay . Abi no be so. While hustling to get stay u expect him to house and feed u or support u. True or false. I won't insult u back as i no dey same level with u. Find ur way out of 9ja if u can. Forget ur uncle
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Drenimarcus(m): 8:32pm On Aug 19, 2019
ednut1:
sure na hustle. But if that relative or uncle no wan help. One should not be surprised or take it p
let me bust your brain, i had this crazy dude who is in Turkey for 4 years i think, i always beg this guy, link me to your agent and let him process my own too, man will just brush me aside, i was never mad about it.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Madlov3(op): 8:35pm On Aug 19, 2019
ednut1:
not here for insults. U wan go with tourist visa which you would overstay . Abi no be so. While hustling to get stay u expect him to house and feed u or support u. True or false. I won't insult u back as i no dey same level with u. Find ur way out of 9ja if u can. Forget ur uncle
you see why I said you’re an illiterate? Where in the thread did i say the person is my uncle? Hear me well, with my level of education migrating to USA or Canada or Australia or New Zealand legally will be a smooth sail because am going there to add to thier economy. The only thing that can hinder me is finance okay?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by ednut1(m): 8:37pm On Aug 19, 2019
Madlov3:
you see why I said you’re an illiterate? Where in the thread did i say the person is my uncle? Hear me well, with my level of education migrating to USA or Canada or Australia or New Zealand legally will be a smooth sail because am going there to add to thier economy. The only thing that can hinder me is finance okay?
get lapo loan or dm me make i borrow u grin. Or go to dubai go work 1 year and save. 500k package should get you there.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Beautyaddy: 8:37pm On Aug 19, 2019
ednut1:
not here for insults. U wan go with tourist visa which you would overstay . Abi no be so. While hustling to get stay u expect him to house and feed u or support u. True or false. I won't insult u back as i no dey same level with u. Find ur way out of 9ja if u can. Forget ur uncle
Correct.

Most likely that what he/she plans on doing...lol!

Anyways, Drenimarcus has given anyone that wants to migrate legally and stay legally abroad a hint...use it.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Originalsly: 8:43pm On Aug 19, 2019
Madlov3:
For me i think it’s black man’s mentality. An average china man that travels to America and makes it will ensure at least all his town people who are Intrested in coming over get settled abroad. Little wonder why you have China towns in most developed countries.
Same with the Indians.
Let me ask.... which is worse... the Black man not helping his fellow Black to get up?....or.... the Black man who keeps pulling down his fellow Black man?
You may not realize it... but you are in the second set.
Yes there are China Towns... Little Italy...etc... communities of people from the same place .. where recent immigrants usually stay first until they get up to speed with the new society and branch out. Why conveniently leave out African Nigerian /African communities? Don't you know they exist abroad?...just like the others? Or is it you are bent on putting down the Blackman? And those residents are not there to encourage others to come join them.You need to change your mentality and stop helping others to put down Blacks.

Now on the topic.... what exactly is discouragement?... what is enlightenment?... are those abroad discouraging others from migrating?... or enlightening them about the pitfalls and misconceptions?

Let me put you in the same boat as those abroad. What advice would you give someone who has a profitable business in his village... lives very comfortable... but wants to sell out everything and move to Lagos?.... hoping to work very hard to make it big like so many others there and be driving Mercedes? What advice would you give to him?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Spanishmilf(m): 9:30pm On Aug 19, 2019
Oga ade u cant compare lagos with newyork
What $5 can buy in newyork 5# can never quarter of it ooh
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by CanadianNaija: 9:43pm On Aug 19, 2019
Beautyaddy:
How does any Nigerian migrate or get to the US/UK/Canada illegally? I don't think there's any.

What I sense is that some Nigerians will apply for either the visiting visa or student visa to travel legally to these countries.

However, what happens is that when they get approved of the visa they travel to those countries legally but along the line they now overstay their legal presence in these countries... that is when they become illegal or better term to use "undocumented immigrants" in those countries.
Are you being serious? You’ve never heard of Canadian express entry? Or work Visas for the other countries?
You’re displaying your ignorance online madam, and boldly too. It’s embarrassing.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by nlPoster:
I didnt go through all pages of the following thread, obviously we never consider the other view:


Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA

https://www.nairaland.com/4214750/moving-back-nigeria-usa


Right from page one, see the advice.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by oluayebenz: 11:02pm On Aug 19, 2019
ednut1:
get lapo loan or dm me make i borrow u grin. Or go to dubai go work 1 year and save. 500k package should get you there.
To where?

You are joking right
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Nozzle(m): 1:09am On Aug 20, 2019
very funny thread.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Nozzle(m): 1:17am On Aug 20, 2019
CanadianNaija:
Are you being serious? You’ve never heard of Canadian express entry? Or work Visas for the other countries?
You’re displaying your ignorance online madam, and boldly too. It’s embarrassing.
are you sure you read her post well before jumping to conclusions.

from my understanding, she meant she wasnt sure you can travel illegally, (maybe through fake visas and all), that ppl travel through short stay visas(i.e. tourist visas or student visas) and overstay then automatically becoming illegal or undocumented.

emphasis on "illegal"
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Gerrard59(m): 9:38am On Aug 20, 2019
Nozzle:
are you sure you read her post well before jumping to conclusions.

from my understanding, she meant she wasnt sure you can travel illegally, (maybe through fake visas and all), that ppl travel through short stay visas(i.e. tourist visas or student visas) and overstay then automatically becoming illegal or undocumented.

emphasis on "illegal"
Me sef shock. shocked I had to re-read Beautyaddy's post.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by megastu(m): 10:50am On Aug 20, 2019
This your last paragraph make brain die.

Even me i encourage people doing well in villages and smaller towns not to come to Lagos oh.
Originalsly:
Let me ask.... which is worse... the Black man not helping his fellow Black to get up?....or.... the Black man who keeps pulling down his fellow Black man?
You may not realize it... but you are in the second set.
Yes there are China Towns... Little Italy...etc... communities of people from the same place .. where recent immigrants usually stay first until they get up to speed with the new society and branch out. Why conveniently leave out African Nigerian /African communities? Don't you know they exist abroad?...just like the others? Or is it you are bent on putting down the Blackman? And those residents are not there to encourage others to come join them.You need to change your mentality and stop helping others to put down Blacks.

Now on the topic.... what exactly is discouragement?... what is enlightenment?... are those abroad discouraging others from migrating?... or enlightening them about the pitfalls and misconceptions?

Let me put you in the same boat as those abroad. What advice would you give someone who has a profitable business in his village... lives very comfortable... but wants to sell out everything and move to Lagos?.... hoping to work very hard to make it big like so many others there and be driving Mercedes? What advice would you give to him?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Originalsly: 12:22pm On Aug 20, 2019
megastu:
This your last paragraph make brain die.

Even me i encourage people doing well in villages and smaller towns not to come to Lagos oh.
The thing is... if they know what they are getting into.... have things set up in Lagos.... no problem encouraging them to venture out to make life better.... but to tell them to come and hope for the best is seen as encouragement.... the same kind encouragement that have soooo many.... and more coming.... living in squalor under bridge.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Ugosample(m): 3:08pm On Aug 20, 2019
Drenimarcus:
lol this thread tho i don over laugh cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin grin. Let me give my own one cent. I had a big brother(not blood) i stayed with for 4 months in Lagos, we so connected and so attached that he tells me everything in his life and i same, he got married, went to the US with this wife for honeymoon, man was always lamenting about Nigeria bla bla, he came back home, spent 2 months and left again with his wife and hasnt come back. He obviously overstayed and i dont know how, he adjusted his status and last year his wife did same. I dont know how but he sent me pictures of their gcs(we all know how). Now here is the thing, he was always telling me on phone when we talk, man dont waste your time, there are options, K1, CR1, but he always says please come in LEGALLY!!! i told him, well with naija reputation who go wan date or file for me? he said try, all these talks were in 2016/17. Seeing the admin i was in 2017, reading blowjobs, franknetter, ukimmigrant and one of my closest pals leaving with Canada with his friends, i started researching on how to come LEGALLY. It narrowed down to 2 options, marry/engage or school in the US. 2018, i kick started my plans, fast forward 2019, 01:42pm i am currently in the US, happily married and i came in LEGALLY! I could see the joy in his face and his wife when i called them on whastapp video call. What i am trying to say is, someone who migrated illegally will advise and explain how hard things because he has no valid papers. Till now, he still calls and advises me on the jobs to do, how to get stuffs done but all legally. some folks back home are not only ignorant but lazy, you want to go to a country that issues you I-94 immediately you are in? i am not trying to dissuade anyone, just saying things from my own side.

for those who are saying they dont want them to come because of competition or they dont employ 9ja, back home, we have had stories of employees ruining companies alot, US is so expensive, why employ people you know that will give you heart aches or you cant trust?
this is a very nice story

congrats
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Jorussia(m): 4:01pm On Aug 20, 2019
I am not against people travelling out of naija.I think people should get acquainted with recent immigration laws in whatever country they wish to migrate to inorder to avoid immigration embarrassment.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by nlPoster: 4:15pm On Aug 20, 2019
Some people want to test the system and its laws, so they are not really about legal immigration like that.

My problem is they need other people (stooges) to help them achieve these goals.


The stooges often end up discarded and damaged/destroyed after.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Nobody: 4:18pm On Aug 20, 2019
Abeg who's surname is Okafor, make the person file for me cry
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Drenimarcus(m): 4:59pm On Aug 20, 2019
Ugosample:
this is a very nice story

congrats
Thanks bro, hopefully it inspires someone out there.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Drenimarcus(m): 5:00pm On Aug 20, 2019
Jorussia:
I am not against people travelling out of naija.I think people should get acquainted with recent immigration laws in whatever country they wish to migrate to inorder to avoid immigration embarrassment.
That’s it. All western countries are tightening up immigration now. No one will wanna house an illegal at the moment
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by TWoods(m): 7:33pm On Aug 20, 2019
Madlov3:
you see why I said you’re an illiterate? Where in the thread did i say the person is my uncle? Hear me well, with my level of education migrating to USA or Canada or Australia or New Zealand legally will be a smooth sail because am going there to add to thier economy. The only thing that can hinder me is finance okay?
I don’t recall any of those countries actively asking you to come add to their economy. They’ve been doing fine without you so far.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by LewinskyMon: 7:39pm On Aug 20, 2019
TWoods:
I don’t recall any of those countries actively asking you to come add to their economy. They’ve been doing fine without you so far.
grin
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Madlov3(op): 4:59pm On Aug 21, 2019
TWoods:
I don’t recall any of those countries actively asking you to come add to their economy. They’ve been doing fine without you so far.
i won’t reply you sorry. Everyone on this travel section knows you don’t have common sense.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by ednut1(m): 7:53pm On Aug 21, 2019
Madlov3:
i won’t reply you sorry. Everyone on this travel section knows you don’t have common sense.
oya take food. Left a couple stranded in canada lol
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Sussan1(f): 1:11pm On Sep 12, 2019
[quote author=Madlov3 post=81365677]Over time, I have noticed that Nigerians abroad will always want to discourage other people from traveling.
Anytime you tell them your plans of traveling,they will start giving you long epistles.
If indeed there are no green pastures abroad, why not come back to Nigeria? Please come back and rebuild the country.
For me i think it’s black man’s mentality. An average china man that travels to America and makes it will ensure at least all his town people who are Intrested in coming over get settled abroad. Little wonder why you have China towns in most developed countries.
Same with the Indians.
Nobody can discourage me, na money still dey Bleep my plans up
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Yupng: 9:05am On Sep 13, 2019
Oga travel first then you go know. I am surprised people that has never leave the shores of this country will be making stupid remarks. The Nigerians abroad that cautions you about travelling, are the once being sincere.

Madlov3:
This Nigerian mentality is the exact reason i will avoid Nigerians like plaque if am opportuned to travel outside this country.
I am going to live in States or provinces with very little or no Nigerians because the average Nigerian man does not want a fellow Nigerian to succeed abroad
Re: Why Do Nigerians Abroad Always Discourage People From Traveling? by Nobody: 5:51pm On Sep 14, 2019
Lemme tell you my own story

I have a very useless uncle And a useless aunty too. The uncle works for Texas department of Insurance. I sought for jobs 5 -6 years in Nigeria I didn't see. Money wasn't coming in, nothing. My life was doomed, I didn't have anywhere to go. Did few deals in the past, made some proceeds and did a passport. Since then, all doors closed in again.
I asked my uncle to assist with just a letter of invitation, he said I should call one of my aunties, I called my aunty (imagine calling the US and spending over 20mins on phone, and I didn't have a job, I'd help my father to help in his shop, the small change, I'd use it to buy units and call overseas.) they all kept joking with me until this my aunt said, she'd make findings and see how I could come. This is 2019, and it's almost ending , she made that Idiotic statement since 2017.
Today, it's a different story. I warned my mom never to ever call them on phone and speak about anything that concerns me to them again. They now saying, they don't know why I'm angry.
Uncle works for Texas department of Insurance , aunty is a senior Lecturer for University of Texas, Austin. Her first son is US Army and a very senior officer. All US citizens. I thank God, I wouldn't be needing their help for anything in this life again. I've even deleted them from facebook. They go about telling people that I'm bad , angry and I'm a rough person. Until when some heard my own side of the story... Tables has finally turned.

I don't depend on any stupid relation overseas. Bunch of useles people one should never rely on.
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