It seems the ECO didn’t see your documents... you should reapply and make sure these things you listed are showing and clear after you upload.
You should also add his house documents since he would be sheltering you. . And maybe other proof of communication between you people such as chats or emails plus the pictures.. make sure they all upload. Kai sorry
Also write a letter and attach to your application.

zakmus:
Documents from my uncle
-Invitation letter
-British passport data page
-Pictures we took together when he visited Nigeria


Documents from me
- Employment letter
-Employment confirmation letter
- leave letter from employer
-introduction letter from employer
-Company I.D card
-6 months payslip
-6 months bank statement
-marriage certificate
-family pictures
-my son birth certificate

Those where the documents I submitted
I want to reapply as soon as possible cos my annual leave start on the 2nd September
Will really appreciate your input

Justwise if the ECO made such a grievious mistake by omitting to view those vital docs....then am afraid Home office needs to flush out or query such incompetent ECO's....what nonsense!....its outright madness to cause one such emotional pain and making them spend money over again. When it could have been avoided in the first place. This people sha can be annoying. Dear poster am so sorry for your refusal and wish you luck in the next one.

justwise:


Then either the visa center mistakenly omitted some of your documents or the ECO did not see them because data page of his British passport is a vital document.

Is either you reapply and attach letter of complain or you send a letter of complain pointing out documents you submitted so as to dispute ECO's refusal reasons

If you want to reapply ask him to also send you the front cover of his British passport

@giselle237 Infact he should send letter of complaint to them....nonsense! How can an ECO ommit or not see such docs as vital as that.....mehn only God really can see an applicant through from the hands of those ECO's

giselle237:
It seems the ECO didn’t see your documents... you should reapply and make sure these things you listed are showing and clear after you upload.
You should also add his house documents since he would be sheltering you. . And maybe other proof of communication between you people such as chats or emails plus the pictures.. make sure they all upload. Kai sorry
Also write a letter and attach to your application.

Means its with HOME OFFICE....its in their Decision Making Centre(DMC)....pray for luck and success! All the best!

Mickyboiz:
wow thank Bro, Still on Application received by DMC, what does it mean ?

Can u pls help me what i can do to this refusal letter.i want to visit my brother who is a britizen for 2 weeks holiday and i supply all his document and the eco said that am goin for 5days classroom workshop .second mistake is that eco claim that i did not have family ties , am married with kids and i supply all evidence , my marriage cert, kid birth cert, family photograph.thirdly eco claim there are large money enter in my personal acct, am a self employed and i sunmitted both my businesss acct and personal acct. And the money that enter into my acct is money that my customer paid for the goods and i provided all the receipt of sales. What fo u think i can do ? Re apply or juficiary review.see the refusal letter.

MrsDaniels:
Means its with HOME OFFICE....its in their Decision Making Centre(DMC)....pray for luck and success! All the best!

ok, thanks Ma

giselle237:
It seems the ECO didn’t see your documents... you should reapply and make sure these things you listed are showing and clear after you upload.
You should also add his house documents since he would be sheltering you. . And maybe other proof of communication between you people such as chats or emails plus the pictures.. make sure they all upload. Kai sorry
Also write a letter and attach to your application.

OK. I added pictures we took to the application
Only WhatsApp call is our mode of communication because he doesn't have time much to chat cos he's always busy

Thank you for your explanatory response. At times, I wonder why some ECOs don’t scrutinise visa application very well. I only stated in the application that I will visit for only 6 days, from 8th to 14th September.

The large withdrawals were monies for a building project which I embarked on and also payments for my Postgraduate program. 1.Though I never thought it could be an issue as I would have submitted receipts as evidenced if the withdrawals.

2. How do I establish savings from my previous salary? I have been earning salary since 2012, hence the opening balance.

ancestorial:

That is bad of the ECO. Atimes they make mistakes too. My advice when you apply, highlight the six days from either your hotel reservation or any place you stated the six days and make clarification that u stated 6 days not 14days.

1. Same here, never knew that withdrawals will be an issue. Even in my previous visa I have made large withdrawals than my stated monthly disposal and my visa was successful. "God's favour" .I taught is mostly on large credits they are concerned. We all need to be careful bc eco are looking for slightest thing to refuse visa. In next application try to explain the reasons for large withdrawals with prove and be careful not to withdraw more than you stated in monthly disposal. I will advise that u made use of the narration in your mobile app when making debit transactions. E.g monthly expenses & savings OR just monthly expenses. This usually reflect on y statement when u print and mark as proof too.

2. You can't establish savings from your previous job.

Saving is income not spent, or deferred consumption. Methods of saving include putting money aside in, for example, a deposit account, a pension account, an investment fund, or as cash.
U can only start to make savings for atleast six months or one year bf u apply. And the savings must be explained. E.g you earn 380k, every month you withdraw 100k for monthly expenses and you withdraw again 50k and deposit it in another saving account without withdrawing from it for complete six months or one year. That is how u can establish savings. And this need to be explained to eco to convince the eco that the savings are genuine. E.g from all my source of income every month I make 380k which is the only credit entries in my salary account. There are debit transaction every month which is 100k for my monthly disposal/ expenses and debit transaction of 50k transferred to my GTB account as my savings which is only the credit entries. Note: you can not use another source of income not explained as your savings bc ECO will like to know how, and where the source of your savings is coming from.

Why the ECO lay emphasis on savings, is because the large withdrawal u made can not give you that amount u stated in the opening and closing balance. So when you withdraw that large amount, it means towards the visa process, u started making credit entries and u said you have no other income. So where do the money comes from to make up the closing balance if such withdrawals was made. The same with opening balance. This ECO are very professional and your application was not decided by one eco, it was collectively.

Moreover, they are not concerned so much about the final balance. They want to see how the flows through the account map in to your personal circumstances and lifestyle.

In next application take your time and work on your mistakes especially the personal and financial circumstances. I believe u will be successful. All d best

ancestorial:

Please next time kindly use the Quote well so that others will understand the detailed of the quote post. Thank you.

There are some cases that requires you give it little time before reapplying but whenever it has to do with unexplained lump deposit then I will advise you reapply immediately and explain it to them like you are teaching a 6 year old child with details of the transaction that let to the credit (invoices, contracts etc) Same happened to me. I was refused 16th of June, I reapplied immediately and I got my visa 28th (priority)
You can then address other cases in your cover letter. I do advise people to use additional information section to explain critical points because at times I feel they don't get to read cover letters.

lovesavvi:
Can u pls help me what i can do to this refusal letter.i want to visit my brother who is a britizen for 2 weeks holiday and i supply all his document and the eco said that am goin for 5days classroom workshop .second mistake is that eco claim that i did not have family ties , am married with kids and i supply all evidence , my marriage cert, kid birth cert, family photograph.thirdly eco claim there are large money enter in my personal acct, am a self employed and i sunmitted both my businesss acct and personal acct. And the money that enter into my acct is money that my customer paid for the goods and i provided all the receipt of sales. What fo u think i can do ? Re apply or juficiary review.see the refusal letter.

lovesavvi:
Can u pls help me what i can do to this refusal letter.i want to visit my brother who is a britizen for 2 weeks holiday and i supply all his document and the eco said that am goin for 5days classroom workshop .second mistake is that eco claim that i did not have family ties , am married with kids and i supply all evidence , my marriage cert, kid birth cert, family photograph.thirdly eco claim there are large money enter in my personal acct, am a self employed and i sunmitted both my businesss acct and personal acct. And the money that enter into my acct is money that my customer paid for the goods and i provided all the receipt of sales. What fo u think i can do ? Re apply or juficiary review.see the refusal letter.

Hello Lovesavvi,
Even thought the ECO made a mistake with the purpose of your visit, he raised another issue regarding the deposit to your personal account which did not originate from your business account. Before reapplying, you need to address that. You claim the credits are payment by clients, please did you explain in your cover letter that apart from your business account you also use your personal accounts to run your business by receiving payments through it?

If you did not explain this in your cover letter then I think the ECO checked your business account but could not see you transfer that money from it which made him doubt the origin of that credit to your personal account. Even though you provided receipts and you have a business accounts traditionally payments should go through your business account unless you explicitly stated that you use your personal account for business transactions. Please let us know if you explained this in your cover letter

Regards,

Hello house and Justwise. Please help me with this. I have been to the UK twice now for both a convention and visit. I did a renewal and applied for 2 years instead. I have just received a 2 years visit visa and while applying I stated I wanted to go for a convention just like I did last year and will stay for 22 days.

Will staying for more than 22 days affect my future applications?

Remember I have been to the UK twice now but I am confused that if I stay for more than 22 days with this new visa, it will affect my future applications.

Please Justwise and house advise me.

Good afternoon house. My name is Okoro. Please I once indicated on my UK visa application that I know only 1 person who is my step - sister. In year 2017 we had a wedding and one of my family I have not seen for a very long period of time was present and I discovered that he is also based in the uk. Since then we have been communicating effectively and he is ready to invite me to the UK now. We bear same surname as we have same father but another mother. Our father had six wives. Please hope it won't affect my application because I did not list him as one of the people I know in the UK in my visa application in the year 2016. He was in Nigeria in January 2019 when my daughter had her birthday and we took pictures together. Can he state in his letter of invitation that we lost contact for a long time and that we met at a family party in 2017 during my cousin's wedding while I also state it in my cover letter? Please advise. Thank you.

Fekonzy:
Hello house and Justwise. Please help me with this. I have been to the UK twice now for both a convention and visit. I did a renewal and applied for 2 years instead. I have just received a 2 years visit visa and while applying I stated I wanted to go for a convention just like I did last year and will stay for 22 days.

Will staying for more than 22 days affect my future applications?

Remember I have been to the UK twice now but I am confused that if I stay for more than 22 days with this new visa, it will affect my future applications.

Please Justwise and house advise me.

How long more do you want to stay?

I would want to stay for 2 months. Is it possible? What is the implication. I have a research relating to my PhD. that I would like to conduct there and 22 days wont be enough.

justwise:


How long more do you want to stay?

justwise:


How long more do you want to stay?

would want to stay for 2 months. Is it possible? What is the implication.

Fekonzy:
I would want to stay for 2 months. Is it possible? What is the implication. I have a research relating to my PhD. that I would like to conduct there and 22 days wont be enough.

I will be surprised if you are able to renew that visa. PhD research was not mentioned in your application and you did not budget for 2 months stay.

justwise:


I will be surprised if you are able to renew that visa. PhD research was not mentioned in your application and you did not budget for 2 months stay.

Ok thank you so much.

But for clarity sake, its compulsory that I stay for a maximum period of 22 days for the first trip, Then subsequent visits can be more than that?

Also what duration am I allowed before I can return?

Okororeg:
Good afternoon house. My name is Okoro. Please I once indicated on my UK visa application that I know only 1 person who is my step - sister. In year 2017 we had a wedding and one of my family I have not seen for a very long period of time was present and I discovered that he is also based in the uk. Since then we have been communicating effectively and he is ready to invite me to the UK now. We bear same surname as we have same father but another mother. Our father had six wives. Please hope it won't affect my application because I did not list him as one of the people I know in the UK in my visa application in the year 2016. He was in Nigeria in January 2019 when my daughter had her birthday and we took pictures together. Can he state in his letter of invitation that we lost contact for a long time and that we met at a family party in 2017 during my cousin's wedding while I also state it in my cover letter? Please advise. Thank you.

Please I need response my people.

Fekonzy:


Ok thank you so much.

But for clarity sake, its compulsory that I stay for a maximum period of 22 days for the first trip, Then subsequent visits can be more than that?

Also what duration am I allowed before I can return?

Do you work or run your own business in Nigeria?

Thank God I got my UK settlement visa yesterday. It was a virgin passport. Myself and my fiancee did all the work for the verifying officer. Neatly arranged all the documents together in separate files ranging from Application documents,Financials and non-financial docs(Sponsor and Applicants),Relationship documents, Accommodation doc and other supporting documents. We arranged a lot of documents especially about the genuity of our marriage,parents affirmation docs etc.
The email received is generic from TLS Abuja and does not show information if the visa was refused or approved until I got my passport.
Contrary to the information that you will see a paper/letter inside that your passport which is the refusal note. I saw a paper/letter inside my passport which was my visa instructions.
Am UK bound.

Applied on the 4th of June

Biometrics on the 10th of June

Sponsor suited Supporting Documents on the 17th June
Received a mail from TLS Contact Abuja that my passport is ready for collection 22nd June

Received my passport and visa 23rd June

Glory to God.

Please, how does invitation work? I have an uncle in the UK whom I'm planning on asking for an invite

Okororeg:
Good afternoon house. My name is Okoro. Please I once indicated on my UK visa application that I know only 1 person who is my step - sister. In year 2017 we had a wedding and one of my family I have not seen for a very long period of time was present and I discovered that he is also based in the uk. Since then we have been communicating effectively and he is ready to invite me to the UK now. We bear same surname as we have same father but another mother. Our father had six wives. Please hope it won't affect my application because I did not list him as one of the people I know in the UK in my visa application in the year 2016. He was in Nigeria in January 2019 when my daughter had her birthday and we took pictures together. Can he state in his letter of invitation that we lost contact for a long time and that we met at a family party in 2017 during my cousin's wedding while I also state it in my cover letter? Please advise. Thank you.

The problem with your story is that it's far too common/familiar, no doubt that the ECO might have heard such stories too many times before.

The question is ...will the ECO believe you? No one here can answer that, you just have to apply and explain the situation the way you did here.

justwise:


Do you work or run your own business in Nigeria?

I work but I am on study leave. Running my PhD research in S.A. I have some research collaborations in the UK so I will be making lots of trips there.

justwise:


The problem with your story is that it's far too common/familiar, no doubt that the ECO might have heard such stories too many times before.

The question is ...will the ECO believe you? No one here can answer that, you just have to apply and explain the situation the way you did here.

Thanks for your response sir. Did you mean they can ban me if the ECO doesn't believe me?

Okororeg:


Thanks for your response sir. Did you mean they can ban me if the ECO doesn't believe me?

Refusal not a ban

Fekonzy:


I work but I am on study leave. Running my PhD research in S.A. I have some research collaborations in the UK so I will be making lots of trips there.

Perfect reason to travel to the UK and stay a month or two depending on your research need but you have to mention this in your application so as to have it on your file

justwise:
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Perfect reason to travel to the UK and stay a month or two depending on your research need but you have to mention this in your application so as to have it on your file

I mentioned it in my application that I have collaborations in the UK and would be making lots of trips there. However, for the first trip, I stated it was for a convention.
So if I overstay the 22 days on this first trip, would it still affect future applications?

Fekonzy:


I mentioned it in my application that I have collaborations in the UK and would be making lots of trips there. However, for the first trip, I stated it was for a convention.
So if I overstay the 22 days on this first trip, would it still affect future applications?

Stick to what you stated in your application form then return later for much longer stay since you have informed them already.

justwise:


Stick to what you stated in your application form then return later for much longer stay since you have informed them already.

Ok will do. Thank you so much. I appreciate.

Hi justwise and all,

please I need your input on this. I would be staying with my brother in the UK when I visit and he would provide accommodation and feeding for me. My question now is this, on the form where it says is anybody else paying for your trip, do I say yes and say he would just be providing accommodation and feeding or I say no and include the fact that he is taking care of accommodation and feeding in the invitation letter he sends and also in my cover letter.

Please your your urgent response is appreciated.