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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 9:50am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


If not that Igbos are egotistic and unrealistic, who do you think has confidence in an Igbo 2023 Presidency given all your ethnic group are showing today? Why not elect a rabid Islamist to lead the Vatican then? Nonsense. Igbo 2023 Presidency is dead on arrival and no Party will give its slot to an Igbo candidate. SS cannot have it as they led directly before Buhari for more than 5 years. This leaves only the reliable, trusted and solid hands of the Yorubas from the South.

If your son becomes a dangerous drug addict you will not let him into the family house merely because he has an entitlement to be in the house due to being a blood member of the family. You look at the damage he can cause to others courtesy of what he is and the danger he poses. Get that simple concept into your head and stop talking nonsense. No one will trust Igbos with power right now. Simple as that.

For your information, the SS did not lead the nation for up to 8 years, and in fact have never led the nation for up to 8 years, so I will want to know why Yorubas betrayed him in preference for a northerner, who is by far less qualified than GEJ to be the president, and the region that he comes from has monopolised the presidency of Nigeria.
Please give us one of your smart reasons why the above is the case.

The thing is that you people are experts at always rationalising the unrealistic. If you say every Igbo man seeks to destroy Nigeria (which is what I am getting from your above message), what is the SS man guilty of, that caused the SW to betray that southern group. What did the SS president do, that is worse than Fulani terrorists raping and pillaging communities and RUGA proprosal e.t.c.

WHy do you (and possibly your other SW cohorts) see IPOB's deviance as more destructive of Nigeria, than northerners that are supporter of islamic fundamentalist views, Fulani terrorism, RUGA and coastline seizure plans?

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by hisexcellency34: 10:03am On Sep 03, 2019
I disagree with you that Yorubas betrayed him for a northerner

OfoIgbo:


For your information, the SS did not lead the nation for up to 8 years, and in fact have never led the nation for up to 8 years, so I will want to know why Yorubas betrayed him in preference for a northerner, who is by far less qualified than GEJ to be the president, and the region that he comes from has monopolised the presidency of Nigeria.
Please give us one of your smart reasons why the above is the case.

The thing is that you people are experts at always rationalising the unrealistic. If you say every Igbo man seeks to destroy Nigeria (which is what I am getting from your above message), what is the SS man guilty of, that caused the SW to betray that southern group. What did the SS president do, that is worse than Fulani terrorists raping and pillaging communities and RUGA proprosal e.t.c.

WHy do you (and possibly your other SW cohorts) see IPOB's deviance as more destructive of Nigeria, than northerners that are supporter of islamic fundamentalist views, Fulani terrorism, RUGA and coastline seizure plans?

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 10:05am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


Bro, you are slow on the uptake. Sorry to say. Did I say the North cannot betray the SW and get away with it? I am talking of the aftermath of their action !!!! This is an era the SW has shown full backing for the North's attempt to gain power. 2015 and then 2019. If this is to be followed by betrayal of the SW by the North then we have our signal to note how we must proceed forward in view of the precedence set. Rest assured we are not Igbos to make loads of noise and then do nothing. We always learn from and rectify our mistakes unlike Igbos who keep doing the same thing over and over again to expect a different outcome. The definition of insanity.
If not Betray u there is nothing u can do about it
Stop making noise

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 10:05am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

Or you're trying to say igbo are ready to vote northerner atiku in pdp.


grin grin

Let's wait till then now
Or APC
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 10:06am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

Obj became the president but it was northerner that single handedly brought him to power.

Ask yourself as igbo ever brought any candidate to power bf?
Lol single OBJ knew which people brought him to power

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 10:22am On Sep 03, 2019
OfoIgbo:


For your information, the SS did not lead the nation for up to 8 years, and in fact have never led the nation for up to 8 years, so I will want to know why Yorubas betrayed him in preference for a northerner, who is by far less qualified than GEJ to be the president, and the region that he comes from has monopolised the presidency of Nigeria.
Please give us one of your smart reasons why the above is the case.

The thing is that you people are experts at always rationalising the unrealistic. If you say every Igbo man seeks to destroy Nigeria (which is what I am getting from your above message), what is the SS man guilty of, that caused the SW to betray that southern group. What did the SS president do, that is worse than Fulani terrorists raping and pillaging communities and RUGA proprosal e.t.c.

WHy do you (and possibly your other SW cohorts) see IPOB's deviance as more destructive of Nigeria, than northerners that are supporter of islamic fundamentalist views, Fulani terrorism, RUGA and coastline seizure plans?

You guys love revising history. The Yorubas, particularly the likes of OBJ, ensured GEJ became substantive President and supported him, against the hawkish North, to become the PDP candidate who then went on to win the 2011 elections, thanks to Yoruba votes, against Northerners in the form of Buhari and Ribadu. GEJ lost 2015 down to his own misrule the SW was not obligated to back blindly as you Igbos do for your kinsmen.

Osinbajo, our so-called son, still did not prevent the SW voting healthily for Atiku and Obi to show you bigots that 2015 was not a betrayal of GEJ but a rejection of misrule. Oyo even went to PDP in 2019 and almost Osun too. If not that you Igbos are an unfair people, you would appreciate the Yorubas as purist voters who make decisions on what is best for Nigeria rather than support misrulers blindly because of ethnic affiliation.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 10:30am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


And the North has not had enough time as leaders of Nigeria to have developed your region if your leaders are genuinely visionary and effective administrators? Look, if you are a Northerner then, I triple dare you and others to continue backing the hawkish and unfair stance of those amongst you who want to monopolise power.

Others will resign themselves to their fate but not Yorubas because we know our worth to appreciate we are the glue holding Nigeria together. Bro, let your hawks push you to a point of no return. Whatever Yorubas do in return, and whatever the result of that, you lot should accept. PDP too thought they would lead forever till the patient and deliberate strategising of Yorubas put paid to that. So gather yourselves to retain power. You and others will appreciate the meaning of the word 'myopia' afterwards.
Bro it's not the yorubas "alone" that defeated Jonathan's pdp in the 2015 presidential election.
Have you forgotten the roles of saraki, tambuwal, kwankwaso and all the other northern elites. Remember that the recent presidential election showed that yorubas didn't even give Buhari/osibanjo more than 60% of their votes yet Buhari won. What do you think the core northern political leaders will make of this ( they can retain power without the SW wink). Another thing bro, the SW will not have the majority support of the SS, SE, and MB ( you know this is really what is obtainable right now, especially if the SW candidate is from APC, which seems likely.) Bro ask yourself this : if a SW candidate is contesting with a core northerner, who will the average core Northerner vote at the polls? Bro as long as the SW doesn't have the full backing of the SS, SE, and MB it's really tough for you guys.
P. S I didn't insult you, I only aired my views.
I'm your brother from the south east!!

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 10:30am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

If not Betray u there is nothing u can do about it
Stop making noise

Difference between Yoruba and Igbo man. You accept your fate and we influence ours. North can betray Yorubas. Their choice. Rest assured we will act, unlike Igbos, to address the anomaly of the North monopolising power once we are sure this is what they are committed to doing. Right now there is no concrete evidence of the North wanting to do this other than the wailing of the likes of EL Rufai and other flaky characters from the North who are nothing in the grand scheme of things. When the going gets tough then the tough get going.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 10:43am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


Difference between Yoruba and Igbo man. You accept your fate and we influence ours. North can betray Yorubas. Their choice. Rest assured we will act, unlike Igbos, to address the anomaly of the North monopolising power once we are sure this is what they are committed to doing. Right now there is no concrete evidence of the North wanting to do this other than the wailing of the likes of EL Rufai and other flaky characters from the North who are nothing in the grand scheme of things. When the going gets tough then the tough get going.
Oga u have burnt bridges u cant do poo

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 10:54am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

Oga u have burnt bridges u cant do poo

Keep watching. The Yoruba man knows his worth to Nigeria. Others do too.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by hisexcellency34: 11:00am On Sep 03, 2019
I laugh in Ekiti dialect. Anybody who knows Kola Abiola should tell him not to accept any VP. They want to kill him like his father

candidtalk:


Keep watching. The Yoruba man knows his worth to Nigeria. Others do too.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 11:22am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


Keep watching. The Yoruba man knows his worth to Nigeria. Others do too.
Lol
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Realdeals(m): 11:52am On Sep 03, 2019
Only mentally enslaved Nigerians will be discussing who association of oppressors will select among themselves as President in 2023.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Amudeneogu: 11:57am On Sep 03, 2019
ONYE ULO YA NAGBAOKU ONACHU OKE? MBAA(HE WHOSE HOUSE IS ON FIRE WOULD HE HAVE TIME TO CHASE RATS? NO)
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Femijohn198: 11:58am On Sep 03, 2019
fellow Nigeria are dying at South Africa you people are zooming who will be VP in Nigeria.God go punish Una our leaders.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by sterlingD(m): 12:01pm On Sep 03, 2019
Haba them don start so soon?Is this what this Political party is going to be all about.Nobody is talking seriously about the plight of the average Nigerian,the affairs of state of the country.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Earthquake1: 12:01pm On Sep 03, 2019
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candidtalk:


Who is "they"? You think Yorubas are without political clout and rights in Nigeria like IPOB-stained Igbos? The North knows that a strategy of monopolising power because of their alleged superior electorate population will cause discontent that will be bad for business - their business specifically since they are the most dependent on having power or being close to it.

This is why many Northerners are now coming out and warning their kinsmen to support Yoruba Presidency or prepare for a backlash that will surely come since any attempt at monopolising power will show the very cosmopolitan and pragmatic Yorubas , very loyal to helping the North lead, to chart another course forward. The North will be viewed as ingrates if they tow this path.

Unlike Igbos, Yorubas are not empty barrels and we know our worth to Nigeria beyond conducting ourselves in a loud yet impotent manner. We are not noisemakers like Igbos so I dare the North to try and scheme Yorubas out. This is when Nigeria will know Yorubas can be more insular than the China that built a wall to develop from inside and then outward in the past.

All Yorubas need to see is that the North is without honour and, going into the future, is dedicated to using her so-called superior number to remain unassailable supreme leaders of Nigeria. We will take it from there and truncate that unlike others who only know to make fake noise. You forget PDP were set to rule for 60 years, as the unassailable ruling Party, till mainly Yoruba players showed the skill and vision to deliver the APC merger that went on to thwart the monopoly of the PDP? It is not about talk bro. Many ways to skin a Cat.
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Trash
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Hausaman1: 12:03pm On Sep 03, 2019
Femijohn198:
fellow Nigeria are dying at South Africa you people are zooming who will be VP in Nigeria.God go punish Una our leaders.
.

What !!!. The child that said his mother will not sleep, that child too will not see sleep. African proverb.

The Nigerians in south Africa are 98% Ipobians they promised to destroy Nigeria. Why will any reasonable Nigerian come to their aid ?. With the rate ipobians are been jailed & attacked in foreign countries, very soon they will become endangered species.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by bluecircle470: 12:06pm On Sep 03, 2019
hisexcellency34:
Tinubu, Osinbajo should forget it. They will rather support Atiku than handover to them

Normal ipob yeast thinking.... since we can’t get it we should scatter it

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by hisexcellency34: 12:09pm On Sep 03, 2019
scatter what.Afonjas can't do poo. If Tinubu tries any nonsense, Buhari jails him over bullion vans

bluecircle470:


Normal ipob yeast thinking.... since we can’t get it we should scatter it
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Bluntemperor: 12:09pm On Sep 03, 2019
Is it a must that Bloggers should feed on your data?.OP welldone,as you want relevancy through this fake news.Kontinew with Internet politicians.Buhari and his cabal brothers is just for a limited time. So to move Nigeria forward,VP Oshinbajo must be caged by Ministers reporting to Mr Kyari's now and you still have Buhari as President.Wish Nigeria the best.God bless Nigeria.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Perkins2018: 12:10pm On Sep 03, 2019
musa234:
Tunubu and his puppets will be put to shame come 2023 insha Allah. A northerner must take after Buhari whether Apc or Pdp ,then the vice can either be any of the southern region. The north is in dire need of development and infrastructure.

Something you can’t achieve with buhari? The north can never develop. You have a backward mentality. You only drag others down. A southerner is taking over in 2023. Either you like it or divide the shithole. You don’t want to mess with Yoruba. Ask your military leaders.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by sureheaven(m): 12:12pm On Sep 03, 2019
No Yoruba Muslims will be president or vice president.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by VillagePipu: 12:19pm On Sep 03, 2019
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OfoIgbo:


For your information, the SS did not lead the nation for up to 8 years, and in fact have never led the nation for up to 8 years, so I will want to know why Yorubas betrayed him in preference for a northerner, who is by far less qualified than GEJ to be the president, and the region that he comes from has monopolised the presidency of Nigeria.
Please give us one of your smart reasons why the above is the case.

The thing is that you people are experts at always rationalising the unrealistic. If you say every Igbo man seeks to destroy Nigeria (which is what I am getting from your above message), what is the SS man guilty of, that caused the SW to betray that southern group. What did the SS president do, that is worse than Fulani terrorists raping and pillaging communities and RUGA proprosal e.t.c.

WHy do you (and possibly your other SW cohorts) see IPOB's deviance as more destructive of Nigeria, than northerners that are supporter of islamic fundamentalist views, Fulani terrorism, RUGA and coastline seizure plans?
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This is my problem with Igbos. You guys have short memories, no wonder you can't trace your history.

Were you deaf when GEJ said Yorubas play Amala politics?
When Arthur Eze insulted Awolowo in the presence of GEJ and the drunkard was laughing like a bushbaby, were you in coma then?

Under GEJ, the most senior political office holder was a mere Minister - Akin Adesina.

Read this link and below stop talking nonsense.
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by ibechris(m): 12:22pm On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


Who is "they"? You think Yorubas are without political clout and rights in Nigeria like IPOB-stained Igbos? The North knows that a strategy of monopolising power because of their alleged superior electorate population will cause discontent that will be bad for business - their business specifically since they are the most dependent on having power or being close to it.

This is why many Northerners are now coming out and warning their kinsmen to support Yoruba Presidency or prepare for a backlash that will surely come since any attempt at monopolising power will show the very cosmopolitan and pragmatic Yorubas , very loyal to helping the North lead, to chart another course forward. The North will be viewed as ingrates if they tow this path.

Unlike Igbos, Yorubas are not empty barrels and we know our worth to Nigeria beyond conducting ourselves in a loud yet impotent manner. We are not noisemakers like Igbos so I dare the North to try and scheme Yorubas out. This is when Nigeria will know Yorubas can be more insular than the China that built a wall to develop from inside and then outward in the past.

All Yorubas need to see is that the North is without honour and, going into the future, is dedicated to using her so-called superior number to remain unassailable supreme leaders of Nigeria. We will take it from there and truncate that unlike others who only know to make fake noise. You forget PDP were set to rule for 60 years, as the unassailable ruling Party, till mainly Yoruba players showed the skill and vision to deliver the APC merger that went on to thwart the monopoly of the PDP? It is not about talk bro. Many ways to skin a Cat.




At the mention of Igbo or the Igbo tribe,people like u rant in anger and extreme envy...why take ur stupidity to the national front when it is obvious u can't control this your backyard envy.

The write up above,does not in any way affects the Igbo's race nor demean their tempo. However u chose to bring up this matter to get people agitated but man,u are in for it.
Next time,u have to reason properly before u dish out discouraging words,because am so sure that,had the Igbo man not bought your fathers land in some parts of Lagos state,u wouldn't be here ranting in envy.
Lest I forget,learn to say what is appropriate at every giving time.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by VillagePipu: 12:23pm On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

If not Betray u there is nothing u can do about it
Stop making noise

Sure, they can betray Yorubas. But the problem is that they need support in the South and they know that a marriage of convenience with Igbos won't last.

The North sees seeking support from Igbos is seeking support from secessionists and there's nothing the North fears than splitting Nigeria.

The North supports the East, the North wins.
Small time, the East starts crying for secession, both North and East would be looking up to the SW for support.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 12:24pm On Sep 03, 2019
VillagePipu:


Sure, they can betray Yorubas. But the problem is that they need support in the South and they know that a marriage of convenience with Igbos won't last.

The North sees seeking support from Igbos is seeking support from secessionists and there's nothing the North fears than splitting Nigeria.

The North supports the East, the North wins.
Small time, the East starts crying for secession, both North and East would be looking up to the SW for support.
North has igbo support simple

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by VillagePipu: 12:25pm On Sep 03, 2019
ibechris:


At the mention of Igbo or the Igbo tribe,people like u rant in anger and extreme envy...why take ur stupidity to the national front when it is obvious u can't control this your backyard envy.

The write up above,does not in any way affects the Igbo's race nor demean their tempo. However u chose to bring up this matter to get people agitated but man,u are in for it.
Next time,u have to reason properly before u dish out discouraging words,because am so sure that,had the Igbo man not bought your fathers land in some parts of Lagos state, u wouldn't be here ranting in envy.
Lest I forget,learn to say what is appropriate at every giving time.

The land you bought in Lagos has government title and it's a long lease. That's Primary 1 education.

Go and read the small clauses at the back of the CofO of the land and come back here to resume Primary 2 of your education.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by VillagePipu: 12:26pm On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

North has igbo support simple

Not so, Igbos have no choice in this matter, they MUST support North. Even if the North pushes them away, they have nowhere to go.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by farouk2much(m): 12:30pm On Sep 03, 2019
The masses are suffer killing kidNapping and looting every were but they dnt care all they care is their business only........... � i give up i surrender
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Okezedan(m): 12:35pm On Sep 03, 2019
Is it not too early to be talking about Buhari's successor? Light no even they my area for 5days now. Useless country

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