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Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by RTSC2: 9:24pm On Sep 02, 2019
Timoleon:
You are a big joke! Who has more to lose if those companies actually leave? Why do you think over the years the thought never crossed the fg’s mind? Dey dere Dey deceive yourself.



Mumu
They won't leave.
It is owned by white South Africans who make more profit in Nigeria than they do in South Africa.
And the whites don't give two fucvk about the Savage blacks.

They would move their headquarters to Nigeria before the expiration of the ultimatum and your economy would be buried.
MTN has already registered in the Nigerian stock exchange.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by BrokenCock: 9:25pm On Sep 02, 2019
Mophasa:
sad
Troops should be immediately sent to Johannesburg and Pretoria ASAP cry
which troops abeg? no be their SA boys wey rather come 9ja to fight BH with our boys?
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Rosskiki: 10:16pm On Sep 02, 2019
lilbest4:
Africans will have mouth to be talking about racism

Slaveboy, your job is to condemn discrimination WHEREVER you see it.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Rosskiki: 10:27pm On Sep 02, 2019
ultimate77:


Black is Black.. always there are a bunch of them with black heart. i rest my case. undecided


Do you realise that white people slaughtered 150 million of themselves in the last century?

Bunch of them with white heart. i rest my case.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Nobody: 10:27pm On Sep 02, 2019
Rosskiki:


Slaveboy, your job is to condemn discrimination WHEREVER you see it.
that's not my job, fool, I'd say grow some balls and attack your attacker.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Rosskiki: 10:29pm On Sep 02, 2019
lilbest4:
that's not my job, fool, I'd say grow some balls and attack your attacker.

LOW IQ mosquito brain.

Or should we just say school dropout?
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by projectNDPRA: 10:37pm On Sep 02, 2019
Back in 19th century, Karl Marx claimed that religion and nationalism was being used to distract the masses from the fact that they were being oppressed under capitalism. Mere distractions to keep the masses from undermining the power of the elites.http://ndpra.home.blog
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Nobody: 10:56pm On Sep 02, 2019
Rosskiki:


LOW IQ mosquito brain.

Or should we just say school dropout?
should I snap my 400 level results for you?
Do you even know the meaning of IQ? It looks like you just heard it recently
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Sniper101(m): 11:11pm On Sep 02, 2019
Mophasa:
sad
Troops should be immediately sent to Johannesburg and Pretoria ASAP cry

Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by alizma: 11:28pm On Sep 02, 2019
Hypnotism:
Someone should tell that Igbo lunatic that South Africans have moves from burning shops to burning Nigerian. If Buhari is not such a lunatic like PDP as been reiterating I wonder why he choose to continue having this puccie as foreign affair minister.
You will be the most lunatic if you are still using mtn line or if you still patronize shoprite etc
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by GOOOGLE504(m): 11:29pm On Sep 02, 2019
Officialgarri:
Story... This one is just tweeting his own mind.

one weakling's mumu tweet is what we should start celebrating

here in Nigeria d masses r being massacred, wat difference does it make if an outsider does d work for them. I swear God will still punish some pple in dis FG
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Winning123: 11:30pm On Sep 02, 2019
You want them to close those offices. What happens to Nigerians working there. Use your brain before you comment. In other words, think

harley88:



If only you cud pass your message with less curse words.
Notwithstanding, The FG is being too gentle on the matter.
I'm surprised that SA businesses are even still operight now in Nigeria.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Fxwarrior: 11:38pm On Sep 02, 2019
Mophasa:
sad
Troops should be immediately sent to Johannesburg and Pretoria ASAP cry

Is it not an act of war? Don't start a war you can't finish. Boko Haram is tactically defeated, abi?
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Fxwarrior: 11:40pm On Sep 02, 2019
harley88:



If only you cud pass your message with less curse words.
Notwithstanding, The FG is being too gentle on the matter.
I'm surprised that SA businesses are even still open right now in Nigeria.

What would you have fg do? Shut down mtn?
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by Rexnegro(m): 12:01am On Sep 03, 2019
harley88:



If only you cud pass your message with less curse words.
Notwithstanding, The FG is being too gentle on the matter.
I'm surprised that SA businesses are even still open right now in Nigeria.
well since na the Igbos full sa doing only God knows, their brothers and sisters back home should carry out revenge on South Africans and their businesses here, which I don't support tho cos two wrongdoings can't make one right. then don't expect other tribes to join hands in doing that for them , besides they said they are not Nigerians but Biafrans . it's well
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by friendl: 12:40am On Sep 03, 2019
Our government will do nothing ,useless leadership
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by mediclife1987(m): 3:38am On Sep 03, 2019
joseph1832:
Truth of the matter is, if Nigerians start reciprocating these attacks on South Africans living and working in Nigeria, things will get out of hand because Nigerians always like doing things to the extreme

Nigerians can't do shii to outsiders, na only ourselves we sabi terrorize. Boko Haram can do a better job tho...
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by mediclife1987(m): 3:58am On Sep 03, 2019
grandstar:


The ignorance that takes Nigerian economic migrants to South Africa is partially the problem.

How can you travel to another country and not read deeply about it, not research? It is like getting married and you not knowing anything about your spouse?

There are no jobs in South Africa and that's why many migrants turn to crime. Despair is what leads them to crime. In the quest to feed themselves, they may approach bad eggs for money and the rest is history. It isn't good to be hungry in another man's land.

To worsen things, it is a gangsters paradise. Crime is quite high. Homicides are very high. Joblessness and an inviting environment for crime make many hungry migrants turn to crime. I'm sure if these same migrants were in the UK or the USA, they'll stick to the narrow path.

Joblessness, poverty, crime, jealousy and a scapegoat for their wretchedness are combustible material for murderous xenophobia.

You are right. The truth is in the middle


How do you know this bro?
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by ddeola: 5:40am On Sep 03, 2019
Na today !
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by harley88(m): 7:53am On Sep 03, 2019
Winning123:
You want them to close those offices. What happens to Nigerians working there. Use your brain before you comment. In other words, think


Tell your daddy to think when talking...
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by LewinskyMon: 8:03am On Sep 03, 2019
Mophasa:
sad
Troops should be immediately sent to Johannesburg and Pretoria ASAP cry
grin
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by grandstar(m): 8:53am On Sep 03, 2019
mediclife1987:


How do you know this bro?

Google it. Presently stands at 29%. An unemployment rate at 10% is quite high and means it's hard to find a job. So 29% is very high.

Nigeria's 24%. Italy is around 10%. Thats why Immigrants there are seeing pepper.Thailand is 1% which is probably the lowest in the world.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by mediclife1987(m): 9:02am On Sep 03, 2019
grandstar:


Google it. Presently stands at 29%. An unemployment rate at 10% is quite high and means it's hard to find a job. So 29% is very high.

Nigeria's 24%. Italy is around 10%. Thats why Immigrants there are seeing pepper.Thailand is 1% which is probably the lowest in the world.

Is it safe to say Thailand is Disneyland?
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by grandstar(m): 9:04am On Sep 03, 2019
mediclife1987:


Is it safe to say Thailand is Disneyland?

it isn't Disneyland
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by mediclife1987(m): 9:30am On Sep 03, 2019
grandstar:


it isn't Disneyland

Hmmm...but they low in unemployment stats na...
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by urahara(m): 9:37am On Sep 03, 2019
grandstar:


Google it. Presently stands at 29%. An unemployment rate at 10% is quite high and means it's hard to find a job. So 29% is very high.

Nigeria's 24%. Italy is around 10%. Thats why Immigrants there are seeing pepper.Thailand is 1% which is probably the lowest in the world.

They say Thailand is suffering from chronic labor shortages.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by philip0906(m): 9:47am On Sep 03, 2019
SmartyPants:


You don't seem to get the point. How does hitting back at MTN translate to passing a message across to South African govt? Why should the South African govt bother itself? Did they bother themselves when you slapped MTN with the 5 billion dollar fine? Even if you go ahead and threaten to close MTN down, how does that affect the South African govt?

This is the scenario as it plays out.

1. MTN is unjustly punished for something it knows nothing of-

Fallback:

a. South Africa drags Nigeria to any one of a number of international courts (ICJ, ICA). South Africa/MTN will win that case with possible damages awarded. Nigeria loses and Nigerians continue to be persecuted in South Africa. Nigeria is currently facing the prospect of billions of dollars awarded in damages from similar behavior with an Irish firm.
b. South Africa alternatively reciprocates by imposing harsh conditions on Nigerians in South Africa. Stalemate, but Nigerians continue to be persecuted in South Africa, as the Nigerian government has no other leverage to exercise.
c. MTN says enough is enough and decides to exit the market since it can no longer be assured of a stable working environment. Other global investors become wary of investing in Nigeria. Nigeria loses as the departure of MTN and other South African giants adds thousands to the already extremely high rate of unemployment. The loss of revenue to MTN and other South African firms will have little impact on the highly diversified and huge South African economy. Meanwhile Nigerians continue to be persecuted.


Taking it out on firms who have done nothing wrong is not the solution. I know the average Nigerian would love to argue and stand on their point so you're welcome to it.
You are desperately trying to downplay the significance (no matter how little) of Nigeria taking action against South Africa. You are probably amongst the lots who think Nigeria is a COMPLETE sh1thole, unfortunately Business peeps know different
1. MTN Nigeria was accused by the CBN of wrongly repatriating about $8.1 billion out of the country. Even for America, that money is significant. The South African Reserve Bank posited that the dispute with the CBN, posed risks on South African financial system. So you are wrong to think that it is insignificant;
https://www.pulse.ng/bi/finance/finance-south-africas-economy-at-risk-over-mtn-nigeria-dollar101-billion-dispute/57g518x

2. South Africa will drag Nigeria to court? Lol...Just like they dragged us to court when MTN was slammed with fines right? They are already paying the fine. They have reportedly payed 330 billion naira of the fine. So your post holds no water. If they are slammed with another fine, they have no option, than to pay.

3. South Africa will take action against Nigerians living in their country...Are you remotely joking? What could be worse than what is currently happening? Or what other action, probably line Nigerians up in the streets and gun them down? Or ban Nigerians from going to South Africa? What could be worse than loosing human lives and properties in South Africa? undecided

4. MTN can NEVER exit the Nigerian market. Take that to the bank. Nigeria is their biggest cash cow. MTN Nigeria led the market share growth with 12.2% growth in the first half of the year, more than any other country they operate in, including South Africa (3.3%). They have more than 55 million subscribers in Nigeria, 20 million more than the subscriber base in South Africa.

5. Global investors affected? Nope.This is simply Nigeria vs South Africa, not Nigeria vs the world, with Nigeria only taking reciprocate action against the inhumanity meted out on its citizens by the host nation, South Africa. Investors are not dumb. They understand. Nigeria still has Africa's biggest GDP. Our solid 200 million population cannot be ignored by investors, it's our strength. Even with all the supposed insecurities in our Nation, tech firms are raking in record amounts of staggering investments.

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Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by grandstar(m): 10:56am On Sep 03, 2019
urahara:


They say Thailand is suffering from chronic labor shortages.

I don't know about chronic but unemployment rate is very low.

I don't even understand why because the economy isn't growing very fast. it once did though.

what's even interesting is that women are an active part of the Labour. The unemployment only considers those willing to work It excludes those unwilling to work such housewives.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by grandstar(m): 10:58am On Sep 03, 2019
urahara:


They say Thailand is suffering from chronic labor shortages.

You're very correct. Actually, a 1% rate unemployment rate will imply that
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by urahara(m): 12:00pm On Sep 03, 2019
grandstar:


I don't know about chronic but unemployment rate is very low.

I don't even understand why because the economy isn't growing very fast. it once did though.

what's even interesting is that women are an active part of the Labour. The unemployment only considers those willing to work It excludes those unwilling to work such housewives.


They said it's because many if the employed are in the informal sector.About 60 percent of total employment.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by ultimate77(m): 12:48pm On Sep 03, 2019
Rosskiki:



Do you realise that white people slaughtered 150 million of themselves in the last century?

Bunch of them with white heart. i rest my case.
ce

YOU have swerved from the subject.
Re: Burning, Looting Of Nigerian Shops In South Africa: FG Takes Definitive Measures by SmartyPants(m): 12:54pm On Sep 03, 2019
philip0906:

You are desperately trying to downplay the significance (no matter how little) of Nigeria taking action against South Africa. You are probably amongst the lots who think Nigeria is a COMPLETE sh1thole, unfortunately Business peeps know different
1. MTN Nigeria was accused by the CBN of wrongly repatriating about $8.1 billion out of the country. Even for America, that money is significant. The South African Reserve Bank posited that the dispute with the CBN, posed risks on South African financial system. So you are wrong to think that it is insignificant;
https://www.pulse.ng/bi/finance/finance-south-africas-economy-at-risk-over-mtn-nigeria-dollar101-billion-dispute/57g518x

2. South Africa will drag Nigeria to court? Lol...Just like they dragged us to court when MTN was slammed with fines right? They are already paying the fine. They have reportedly payed 330 billion naira of the fine. So your post holds no water. If they are slammed with another fine, they have no option, than to pay.

3. South Africa will take action against Nigerians living in their country...Are you remotely joking? What could be worse than what is currently happening? Or what other action, probably line Nigerians up in the streets and gun them down? Or ban Nigerians from going to South Africa? What could be worse than loosing human lives and properties in South Africa? undecided

4. MTN can NEVER exit the Nigerian market. Take that to the bank. Nigeria is their biggest cash cow. MTN Nigeria led the market share growth with 12.2% growth in the first half of the year, more than any other country they operate in, including South Africa (3.3%). They have more than 55 million subscribers in Nigeria, 20 million more than the subscriber base in South Africa.

5. Global investors affected? Nope.This is simply Nigeria vs South Africa, not Nigeria vs the world, with Nigeria only taking reciprocate action against the inhumanity meted out on its citizens by the host nation, South Africa. Investors are not dumb. They understand. Nigeria still has Africa's biggest GDP. Our solid 200 million population cannot be ignored by investors, it's our strength. Even with all the supposed insecurities in our Nation, tech firms are raking in record amounts of staggering investments.

I may agree with you over point 1 but on there rest:

Re 2:

2. South Africa will drag Nigeria to court? Lol...Just like they dragged us to court when MTN was slammed with fines right? They are already paying the fine. They have reportedly payed 330 billion naira of the fine. So your post holds no water. If they are slammed with another fine, they have no option, than to pay.

That was a justifiable cause. South Africa would never have won that case. Slapping punishments on MTN and others for no reason is a violation of international law.

Re 3.

3. South Africa will take action against Nigerians living in their country...Are you remotely joking? What could be worse than what is currently happening? Or what other action, probably line Nigerians up in the streets and gun them down? Or ban Nigerians from going to South Africa? What could be worse than loosing human lives and properties in South Africa? undecided

There is a clear distinction between South African citizens committing crimes against Nigerian citizens, and a South African state policy of punishing Nigerian businesses. I was clearly referring to the latter. Despite the regular outbursts of xenophobia, Nigerians remain that country doing business becasue the business environment is still conducive. That would change if the South African state implements an aggressive, reciprocal policy towards Nigerians.

Re 4:

4. MTN can NEVER exit the Nigerian market. Take that to the bank. Nigeria is their biggest cash cow. MTN Nigeria led the market share growth with 12.2% growth in the first half of the year, more than any other country they operate in, including South Africa (3.3%). They have more than 55 million subscribers in Nigeria, 20 million more than the subscriber base in South Africa.

We are dealing with a big picture of cause and effect. If Nigeria punishes MTN then how will Nigeria continue to be a cash cow for them? It is one of two things:

a. Nigeria punishes MTN to a significant enough effect that the company is troubled. This will only be the case if the company stops making profit. If that happens the company has no incentive to remain in the Nigerian market.

b. Nigeria punishes MTN but not enough to block their profits. The company itself may be bothered but not to a scale to warrant the SA government taking action.


Re 5.

5. Global investors affected? Nope.This is simply Nigeria vs South Africa, not Nigeria vs the world, with Nigeria only taking reciprocate action against the inhumanity meted out on its citizens by the host nation, South Africa. Investors are not dumb. They understand. Nigeria still has Africa's biggest GDP. Our solid 200 million population cannot be ignored by investors, it's our strength. Even with all the supposed insecurities in our Nation, tech firms are raking in record amounts of staggering investments.

Of course, global investors will take note and stay clear. today your dispute is with South Africa and you are taking it out on their innocent business entities. Tomorrow if your dispute is with India it means you will take it out on Indian business entities.


Note: I've never said Nigeria should do nothing. There diplomatic avenues of resolving the current channels. These include the African Union, The African Commission on human and People's Rights, and of course the UN.

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