₦airaland Forum

madridsta007:
It is the West that enabled the Buhari 2015 Presidency. That enough is supposed to tell any average thinking Nigerian that the West isn’t supporting Nigeria. They don’t have to.

Really? Don't even go there

obailala:
So what exactly is your proposal? That good people should forever stay out of leadership until such a fictional time when the government is filled only with angel and saints?

Just a gentle reminder, people like Prof Dora Akunyili of blessed memory succeeded in effecting giant strides whilst also working under several ogas at the top in a Nigerian government setting. If she aligned to ideologies like yours that good people should stay away on the other side of the fence and keep barking only without offering themselves, Nigeria would never have been blessed by her efforts. We should always encourage good people to be in govt.

okay I agree if you won't see things from my point of view

but I bet my left black ass on it that tomorrow you would be among those complaining and throwing stones of blames and insults on him

rottennaija:
Really? Don't even go there

I have said what I said.
What is, “really? Don’t even go there?” You should respond with evidence of your disapproval and not those banal Nigeriansque rebuttals.

chloride6:
A CIA front asking for transparency?

We need like 3 more of these fronts...

You need to read more and read wide on CIAs MO. You’d know that they will even “sanitize” the whole country in other to destabilize it.


Hiding in plain site.

Debaiz:
You need to read more and read wide on CIAs MO. You’d know that they will even “sanitize” the whole country in other to destabilize it.


Hiding in plain site.

Asking for transparency can not be a bad thing..


Cut dried the end

Xisnin:
You are a bandit. Don't bother denying because people are already interested in the allegation. Shior...

Must you insult someone to pass your information?

King44:
okay I agree if you won't see things from my point of view

but I bet my left black ass on it that tomorrow you would be among those complaining and throwing stones of blames and insults on him

haha, ls you left black ass no longer useful to you?

madridsta007:
I have said what I said.
What is, “really? Don’t even go there?” You should respond with evidence of your disapproval and not those banal Nigeriansque rebuttals.

And which is your evidence?

rottennaija:
And which is your evidence?

I have stated what I stated- that Western intervention was instrumental in 2015 elections.
You have disputed it- the onus on you, who is disputing, to argue why you dispute it. Not on me. That is not how it works. Buhari was declared the winner in 2019. Atiku disputed it -with evidence in his legal challenge.

This is how the world works, you see.

madridsta007:
I have stated what I stated- that Western intervention was instrumental in 2015 elections.
You have disputed it- the onus on you, who is disputing, to argue why you dispute it. Not on me. That is not how it works. Buhari was declared the winner in 2019. Atiku disputed it -with evidence in his legal challenge.

This is how the world works, you see.

You have not given any evidence, just claims. Which was the western intervention? What and what did they do? Where did they do it and how were the players.

kalu61:
haha, ls you left black ass no longer useful to you?

very useful

rottennaija:
You have not given any evidence, just claims. Which was the western intervention? What and what did they do? Where did they do it and how were the players.

Clearly, you are not ready for any sort of discussion.
I have no more to say to you.

madridsta007:
Clearly, you are not ready for any sort of discussion.
I have no more to say to you.

You made an allegations and now are putting the burden of proof on me. How did the intervene in Buhari's election? What and what did they do? Where did they do it and who were the players.

The burden of proof is on you, not me.

rottennaija:
You made an allegations and now are putting the burden of proof on me. How did the intervene in Buhari's election? What and what did they do? Where did they do it and who were the players.

The burden of proof is on you, not me.

I gave your the Buhari/Atiku clear analogy. It is either you missed that or you couldnt counter it.

Western intervention gave birth to Buhari in 2015; it is a normal pattern in interventionsm, same process, the use of local partners (popularly called opposition figures) for the same outcome. Regime change. Sometimes, it ends quite bloody as in the case of Syria, Iraq and Libya, sometimes it is prolonged as in the case of Hongkong, sometimes there is a seemingly bloodless transition as in the case of Nigeria. Only "seemingly" as the goal is always to disrupt economies, alignment with the "wrong foriegn interests",etc. So in moving from the top 3 growing economies in the world (CNN Money, 2015 assessment) to the World Poverty Capital, the goal is achieved, seemingly "bloodlessly".

You want "proof"? lol, I am writing a journal paper on these sort of interventions in the Global South. Once it is published, I will put the link here. It will be your proof and you can disagree with the editors.

madridsta007:
I gave your the Buhari/Atiku clear analogy. It is either you missed that or you couldnt counter it.

Western intervention gave birth to Buhari in 2015; it is a normal pattern in interventionsm, same process, the use of local partners (popularly called opposition figures) for the same outcome. Regime change. Sometimes, it ends quite bloody as in the case of Syria, Iraq and Libya, sometimes it is prolonged as in the case of Hongkong, sometimes there is a seemingly bloodless transition as in the case of Nigeria. Only "seemingly" as the goal is always to disrupt economies, alignment with the "wrong foriegn interests",etc. So in moving from the top 3 growing economies in the world (CNN Money, 2015 assessment) to the World Poverty Capital, the goal is achieved, seemingly "bloodlessly".

You want "proof"? lol, I am writing a journal paper on these sort of interventions in the Global South. Once it is published, I will put the link here. It will be your proof and you can disagree with the editors.

So what and what did the west to intervene? How did they do it? Who were the players? Where did they hold meeting? Give details, this is what will make your writeup valid. Else, this is simply conjecture

rottennaija:
So what and what did the west to intervene? How did they do it? Who were the players? Where did they hold meeting? Give details, this is what will make your writeup valid. Else, this is simply conjecture

lol when I read, "Where did they hold meeting?", I laughed where I am.
You simply do not know how these things work and, it is understandable anyway. Until the CIA reports admitted that Kwame Nkrumah was overthrown in the 1966 coup which they were involved in, many Ghanians were asking the same question as you have above. "Where did they hold meeting"? And I do not blame them. The West are subtle and very smart and, luckily for them, they are dealing with emotional and uncritical persons in Africans.

madridsta007:
lol when I read, "Where did they hold meeting?", I laughed where I am.
You simply do not know how these things work and, it is understandable anyway. Until the CIA reports admitted that Kwame Nkrumah was overthrown in the 1966 coup which they were involved in, many Ghanians were asking the same question as you have above. "Where did they hold meeting"? And I do not blame them. The West are subtle and very smart and, luckily for them, they are dealing with emotional and uncritical persons in Africans.

At the end, you have no proof, just conjectures

rottennaija:
At the end, you have no proof, just conjectures

OK.

rottennaija:
It's sad that the west has been interfering in foreign govt for years and it's all about their interests and what they can get from the country not what they will give to it.

Let's not for any reason think that the west is interested in our well being. They are not.

Jesus was born in Ekiti. I am sure you believe that too.

CIA ok, pdp ni.

A serious allegation that must be proved with evidence.

Sprumbaba:
Jesus was born in Ekiti. I am sure you believe that too.

CIA ok, pdp ni.

of course. I gave the mum the pregnancy.