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Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Nobody: 2:21pm On Sep 18, 2019
Do you even know what it means to be in a male dominated world? If you were living in a male dominated world where all women are subdued and oppressed the world wouldn't be like this, we will simply capture and rear you like dogs but is that the case? No. Rather you live in a world of sacrifice, where men die providing for, and protecting women. You people don't know how the world work. Yes you are a feminist wannabe. I don't wanna imagine you are a full blown feminist because that's even lower and worse.
sassysure:
What are u saying?
What is feminist wannabe?

I hope we are having matured discussion
all feminism are the same, built on idiotic ideology that can only be fantasy at best and self destructive at worse
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 2:23pm On Sep 18, 2019
sassysure:
Russia u used as an example came into full feminism after the collapse of the Soviet union. Check it out.
China was late but has advanced a lot. U need to know the China of old and today, then compare and contrast.

I'm not disputing the fact that these countries where highly patriarchal and subdue women( which country didnt). Even the West was worst than what we obtain in our country but they have evolved.
I will.give u example with south korea, last yr, their only ever female president was impeached and sentenced not because she seems to be the most corrupt but because she is a woman( i follow their politics more than I follow naija).I wouldn't want to go into details to prove why I think so.
South Korea is highly patriarchal. But they have giving up a lot and their women have voice. They completely compete favourably with men and the most important is that they don't change their surname when they marry.
Infact, I will say that both Japan, China etc don't do that.
What again is feminism?
The west still use their husbands instead of fathers name like us.
There's no such thing as "full feminism" in Russia. Are there some activists, yes. Same way, there are some activists in Iran. Doesn't mean Iran has "full feminism".

China is even funnier. Because this is a country that has a nationwide firewall that regulates everything people see and send people to so-called "re-education camps." Yet, you're say they've "advanced a lot."

You're sounding like the left equivalent of a flat-earther.

The South Korean president committed a crime.

She had other accomplices (males I must add) and they were convicted as well. Or are you saying she should have been let off because she had a vagina? Most corrupt, very corrupt, corrupt doesn't matter. Samsung's heir also served time for corruption. No one brought up the "very corrupt" toga then.

In one sentence you say a society is "highly patriarchal" and in the same breath say "their women completely compete favourably with men."

So kindly explain how a gender that can "completely compete favorably with men" is subjugated?

All I see is the arrogance to believe that until every nation in the world is run by women, whatever we are practicing and whatever achievements we realize as a species using the existing system doesn't count.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Fountainofyouth(f): 2:51pm On Sep 18, 2019
sassysure:
Saudi Arabia is peaceful?
All these Muslim brotherhood countries?
I know a lot about those countries and pls don't ever use them
Extreme patriarchal society with religion that backed them is what u are using as examples?

Nigeria don't have females in power. When they do, we will know.

I read ur post up there when u are warning ladies to desist from coming here.
Are u for real, really?
Seems like the small fame some of us enjoy in this faceless forum has gotten into our head.
Some more notorious and popular have come and gone, so take it easy. There is no competition here,bro
.
What makes me laugh is when he cosigns his comments, as in "-lord" on a faceless forum oo, lmao cheesy there are others like him too and funny thing is I've never seen any female handle do such, that's to tell you the kind of males we have here, lol.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 2:53pm On Sep 18, 2019
sassysure:
If u know how far a country like Japan has come when it comes to women control, u wouldn't be saying this.

I'm not debating about economy or money.

We are talking of freedom.
Giving women freedom. Freedom to compete in a male dominated world.

Like I said, u don't know what u are debating actually.
Japanese women were even in workforce more than the US in the last century.
The equality ratio between their women and men is not like what u obtain in Nigeria or those Arab extremists countries u used as examples.

That is what I know feminism is all about.
When u give women equal opportunities to excel in male dominated world's. It's now left to them to dive in or not but the room is open for them to compete. No discrimination.

The countries are not religious by the way.
Participation in government is not economy or money. It's about this thing called the polity.

Keep flip-flopping tho'.

And here's an interesting fact, there is no country on the planet where it is illegal for female children to go to school. So when you talk about equal opportunities, I'm out here pondering on what possible denotative meaning you'd ascribe to that.

Because for as long as I've known, feminists the world over have used outcomes as an indicator of historical patriarchal subjugation.

So when Japan has a high participation of women in the workforce, which is not as rare as it sounds (even in Nigeria here women participation in the informal and formal workforce is high), but take up less than 5% of senior management positions in the public sector; most feminists cry blue murder.

If equal opportunities is the end-game of feminism; then the West has gone far and beyond on that. But apparently, that's not enough. There also has to be equal outcomes, and curiously, only in areas you find important.

So even though women dominate a field like pediatrics, since it doesn't pay as much as neurosurgery, then it matters more that neurosurgery is dominated by men. This cancerous, slimy, nauseating thought process has filtered into anything they value, from the tech sector to finance. While spectacularly skipping over construction, the cavalry branch of the military, mining, and other similarly unattractive sectors.

And since you're bereft of the reasoning behind the topic of discussion; it is this excessive whining and goal-post-shifting that's turning off the individuals who are deciding to go their own way.

Because I'm yet to see a guy complain females are allowed to go to become lecturers for example.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 2:53pm On Sep 18, 2019
lilbest4:
you will not understand the plight of those men because you don't live in the West. There's no real reason for a Nigerian man to go MGTOW. The beautiful girl twerking, and flirting with you might regret that sex and decide to fúck your life up the next morning she wouldn't even need evidence to do it since "no means no and consent can be withdrawn during sex" nonsense is a standard there and it won't even take her 30 seconds to make you lose your job and be smeared for life. By the time you compare those dangers to 5 minutes of fleeting pleasure you will realize that it's not worth it.
Why will you want to have sex with a woman who is intoxicated? Why get involved in one night stands so frequently? Of course you have no respect for your body or yourself. Most people who will do that with you are not mentally or emotionally stable. So why do you expect a different outcome?
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Jman06(m): 2:54pm On Sep 18, 2019
CHoccolaTE:
Lmao, what kind of confusion is this?

One minute they want to go the next minute they will stay and treat women as necessary evil.

Biko go on your way don't pity us.

Goodbye and please don't come back.
Lolzzz...we are not going again so that more women would not resort to committing suicide. We are considerate, you know.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 2:55pm On Sep 18, 2019
missjo:
This is interesting. Do you have her name? would like to read or watch an excerpt on her experiences.
Maryam Mirzakhani

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 2:55pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fountainofyouth:
What makes me laugh is when he cosigns his comments, as in "-lord" on a faceless forum oo, lmao cheesy there are others like him too and funny thing is I've never seen any female handle do such, that's to tell you the kind of males we have here, lol.
My sister I have been ignoring him because I can’t deal on a delusional level. Lord indeed and he’s belting out instructions for the spirits he met on this thread or what? Guy already thinks he’s superior and knows all so let him fight himself. I can’t cope abeg, wasted effort. We know his type. He’s a learner when it comes to the level of misogyny we have encountered in this section.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 2:57pm On Sep 18, 2019
Jman06:
Lolzzz...we are not going again so that more women would not resort to committing suicide. We are considerate, you know.
I thought you were celibate
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Nobody:
baby124:
Why will you want to have sex with a woman who is intoxicated? Why get involved in one night stands so frequently? Of course you have no respect for your body or yourself. Most people who will do that with you are not mentally or emotionally stable. So why do you expect a different outcome?
I'm strictly speaking in her context and the situation in the west. Those things happen frequently in the West so it's pretty understandable for their men to react like that
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:07pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fountainofyouth:
What makes me laugh is when he cosigns his comments, as in "-lord" on a faceless forum oo, lmao cheesy there are others like him too and funny thing is I've never seen any female handle do such, that's to tell you the kind of males we have here, lol.
You should know your opinion of me is not even worth the hard disk space holding that juvenile attempt at banter.

You're not the first and certainly would not be the last to point that out.

Now if you had anything remotely cognitive to add, you'd have done so already. So yea, we've registered your IQ. It's in the negative region of the number line. You've been noticed and you go now.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Jman06(m): 3:12pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
I thought you were celibate
I have decided against being celibate so as to help save more women from dying of loneliness.


You should thank me for that..
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 3:13pm On Sep 18, 2019
lilbest4:
I'm strictly speaking in her context and the situation in the west. Those things happen frequently in the West so it's pretty understand for their men to react like that
I have lived in the west. I have clubbed in the West. The people who will go home with you straight from club are 90% not emotionally or mentally stable. How can you even be comfortable bringing an absolute stranger into your home and sleeping by them all night if something is not wrong with you? What eye find Na him see.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:13pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
Why will you want to have sex with a woman who is intoxicated? Why get involved in one night stands so frequently? Of course you have no respect for your body or yourself. Most people who will do that with you are not mentally or emotionally stable. So why do you expect a different outcome?
Look at you on your high horse. What one does with his body is none of your business.

And it applies to both genders. If he wants to have a foursome, he should get on with available willing participants.

And I'll like to see your psychological qualification to be typing that load of hogwash with a straight face!

The self-righteousness in one post. And you'd still have the guts to complain of victim shaming. The level of cognitive dissonance your kind display is the stuff of legends.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 3:14pm On Sep 18, 2019
Jman06:
I have decided against being celibate so as to help save more women from dying of loneliness.


You should thank me for that..
We want you to be celibate please so available women can see road. At least MGTOW will weed you out of the dating pill. So called red pill will also have same girls running from you, leaving pretenders like you for you. So you can both deal with each other.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:15pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
The people who will go home with you straight from club are 90% not emotionally or mentally stable.
Source?

Making up faux-stats invalidates your arguments.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 3:16pm On Sep 18, 2019
LordAdam16:
Look at you on your high horse. What one does with his body is none of your business.

And it applies to both genders. If he wants to have a foursome, he should get on with available willing participants.

And I'll like to see your psychological qualification to be typing that load of hogwash with a straight face!

The self-righteousness in one post. And you'd still have the guts to complain of victim shaming. The level of cognitive dissonance your kind display is the stuff of legends.

-Lord
Lmao. You are a joke. You are already battling some grand delusions. I am not interested in debating with you.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:19pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
My sister I have been ignoring him because I can’t deal on a delusional level. Lord indeed and he’s belting out instructions for the spirits he met on this thread or what? Guy already thinks he’s superior and knows all so let him fight himself. I can’t cope abeg, wasted effort. We know his type. He’s a learner when it comes to the level of misogyny we have encountered in this section.
Typing load of crap and making up stats does not make you lettered.

It shows you to be an intellectually-deficient skirt whose fingers are more active than her frontal cortex.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Fountainofyouth(f): 3:19pm On Sep 18, 2019
LordAdam16:
You should know your opinion of me is not even worth the hard disk space holding that juvenile attempt at banter.

You're not the first and certainly would not be the last to point that out.

Now if you had anything remotely cognitive to add, you'd have done so already. So yea, we've registered your IQ. It's in the negative region of the number line. You've been noticed and you go now.

-Lord
If my opinion of you is not worth whatever, you shouldn't have taken the time to type out a reply to me, knowing full well I did not mention you in any way, get it?

Now regarding this topic, my input is really not needed cos it is very obvious worthy ladies above and from first page have done great justice to this thread and in schooling all of you that keep wailing on feminism, so dude, these three words; banter, shenanigans, blabber, best describes all your blunder, for lack of a better word, cos a deluded mind who feels coming into a thread by instructing ladies to keep off and stay out, isnt worth so much as a tot from me, so do well and continue your lameness with those who wish to give you their precious time,

Do not mention me again.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Jman06(m): 3:23pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
We want you to be celibate please so available women can see road. At least MGTOW will weed you out of the dating pill. So called red pill will also have same girls running from you, leaving pretenders like you for you. So you can both deal with each other.
Just thank me for choosing to do womenfolk a favour.

Say "thank you sir"
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 3:26pm On Sep 18, 2019
Jman06:
Just thank me for choosing to do womenfolk a favour.

Say "thank you sir"
All of them here have told you to go! You are the one fighting to be wanted by them now grin cheesy. Don’t worry they have noticed you. Shoot your shot at one of them.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:27pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
Lmao. You are a joke. You are already battling some grand delusions. I am not interested in debating with you.
I'm not surprised that you wouldn't.

When the light is turned on, roaches scamper to nooks and crevices.

This is a MGTOW thread. You're not a man, you're not affiliated or associated with the movement; but you've typed several pages worth of bullswack.

Then I ask you to state the source of a stat you shared, which apparently supports your argument, and suddenly the cat has got your tongue (or more accurate you developed carpal tunnel).

Which is certainly interesting considering you've typed several long-winded essays on this thread espousing your viewpoints as superior.

You're a bigger joke than your opinion which is an impressive feat. I figured I would have to enter a time machine to go back far enough to a time where I could find an hominid with heavily limited cognition. But here you are. In the flesh.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 3:29pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fountainofyouth:
If my opinion of you is not worth whatever, you shouldn't have taken the time to type out a reply to me, knowing full well I did not mention you in any way, get it?

Now regarding this topic, my input is really not needed cos it is very obvious worthy ladies above and from first page have done great justice to this thread and in schooling all of you that keep wailing on feminism, so dude, these three words; banter, shenanigans, blabber, best describes all your blunder, for lack of a better word, cos a deluded mind who feels coming into a thread by instructing ladies to keep off and stay out, isnt worth so much as a tot from me, so do well and continue your lameness with those who wish to give you their precious time,

Do not mention me again.
Lmao...
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:32pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fountainofyouth:
If my opinion of you is not worth whatever, you shouldn't have taken the time to type out a reply to me, knowing full well I did not mention you in any way, get it?

Now regarding this topic, my input is really not needed cos it is very obvious worthy ladies above and from first page have done great justice to this thread and in schooling all of you that keep wailing on feminism, so dude, these three words; banter, shenanigans, blabber, best describes all your blunder, for lack of a better word, cos a deluded mind who feels coming into a thread by instructing ladies to keep off and stay out, isnt worth so much as a tot from me, so do well and continue your lameness with those who wish to give you their precious time,

Do not mention me again.
I had to let you know. Because apparently you may be too thick to figure that out on your own.

Your next paragraph is expected drivel.

And your last statement justifies my reason. Your opinion is immaterial to me.

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Fountainofyouth(f): 3:39pm On Sep 18, 2019
LordAdam16:
I had to let you know. Because apparently you may be too thick to figure that out on your own.

Your next paragraph is expected drivel.

And your last statement justifies my reason. Your opinion is immaterial to me.

-Lord
But then again, you can continue to mention me cos it seems a continuous cosigning of your comments gives you a sense of worth, gratification and purpose, so dude, go ahead.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Jman06(m): 3:42pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
All of them here have told you to go! You are the one fighting to be wanted by them now grin cheesy. Don’t worry they have noticed you. Shoot your shot at one of them.
Many of them sent pms begging me not to join the MGTOW movement.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by LordAdam16: 3:46pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fountainofyouth:
[s]But then again, you can continue to mention me cos it seems a continuous cosigning of your comments gives you a sense of worth, gratification and purpose, so dude, go ahead.[/s]
The door is wide open...

-Lord
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by baby124: 3:49pm On Sep 18, 2019
Jman06:
Many of them sent pms begging me not to join the MGTOW movement.
I truly doubt this though. Lmao. Please go back to following Ubunja and the others. Martinez has japa since yesterday grin cheesy. All your reinforcements don pick race at the sight of logical arguments devoid of hate. Well, we all learn everyday that is why we are human. Goodluck with your search for a life partner.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Jman06(m): 3:53pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
I truly doubt this though. Lmao. Please go back to following Ubunja and the others. Martinez has japa since yesterday grin cheesy. All your reinforcements don pick race at the sight of logical arguments devoid of hate. Well, we all learn everyday that is why we are human. Goodluck with your search on a life partner.
Lolzzz

Ok o...thank you o
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by bukatyne(f): 4:14pm On Sep 18, 2019
sassysure:
Know this; any guy who hates women, body shames them had broken childhood.

There was a topic here asking guys what they hate about their childhood.

It was an eye opener. If Nairaland has 200 male active users, 150 of them came from broken background. Their stories were horrible. Most changed ID to tell their stories.
It's not really girlfriend boyfriend issue.

Daddy mostly abusing them and abandoning them. Beating their mum and always telling her she is nothing.
All these have great side effect on a growing child.

So sometimes, instead of attacking them, just show them that despite how their background looked like, women is never their problem. When they meet the one for them, it will be paradise on earth. Yes we have bad eggs from both sides and as humans we are not perfect but overall the union of man and woman is still the best.

In my hood, u see men and women bonding with cats and animals instead of humans because they can't forgive human imperfections. No wonder they are always scammed online looking for love.

And it will continue if these guys don't change.
They give birth to boys they can't train emotionally.

An average life span of a Nigerian man is less than 65.
Not because he don't have food on his table but because his mind is very toxic. So proud, unyielding and un-bending cos he don't want to appear weaker.

And with their mindset they have been ruling Nigeria since independence. We can see how peaceful and progressive a nation we are.
This is a very insightful post.
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by Nobody: 4:41pm On Sep 18, 2019
baby124:
I have lived in the west. I have clubbed in the West. The people who will go home with you straight from club are 90% not emotionally or mentally stable. How can you even be comfortable bringing an absolute stranger into your home and sleeping by them all night if something is not wrong with you? What eye find Na him see.
is this not what you call victim blaming? 100% of men who rape women are psychologically unsound, why would you be alone with such people? You should have respect for your body
Re: What Is MGTOW? Meet The ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ by missjo(f): 4:41pm On Sep 18, 2019
LordAdam16:
Maryam Mirzakhani

-Lord
Thanks a bunch. Found out she's dead from cancer,too bad.
Still rummaging through the videos I could find.
This was an interesting read for me tho,very interesting.
https://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Mirzakhani.html

From her supportive dad, to her principal who gave her the chance to be the first girl ever in the Iranian mathematical Olympiad team, to how the Iranian media broke taboo after her death to put up her pictures without a hijab on, to parliament moving the motion to amend the law because of her daughter and begin giving Iranian nationality to people with Iranian Mothers married to foreigners.etc
Gosh there are so many unsung heroes,and to think I am just knowing this about a woman in a country like Iran.
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