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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:36pm On Sep 28, 2019
afrodoc2:


3) The desire you mentioned comes not in desire to return from injury but in the desire to spend money on your health and body and minimize your risk of injury.
Lebron James' and Cristiano Ronaldo's careers tell us that if you take care of your body well enough your risk of injury will be minimized at least to a certain extent.
It is no accident that Fat Shaw and Fat Ando have always been injury prone.

You don’t think some players might be completely healed and may just feel/ decide they’re not ready to return to action yet?

We’ve done a lot of stupid business in the transfer market in the last few years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:52pm On Sep 28, 2019
Leyqute:


You don’t think some players might be completely healed and may just feel/ decide they’re not ready to return to action yet?

We’ve done a lot of stupid business in the transfer market in the last few years.

If a player has been stung by misdiagnosis in the past or rushed back to early and suffered a recurrence of injury he might be reluctant to come back if not 100%. However i don't think a significant number of our players are doing that.

Pogba for example was rushed back too soon in our last match, especially when he had to play 90 mins. Rashford is another example of someone who has played through injury and been rushed back to soon but always tries to make himself available.

The only obvious culprit is Martial but he appeared to have turned a corner this season in terms of work rate and desire until his latest injury so i will give him the benefit of the doubt.

In terms of stupid business, i always said Ed was the number one problem above any player or manager. As long as he is in control of football matters i see no light at the end of the tunnel.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:07pm On Sep 28, 2019
Afrodoc

Okay. I get what you’re saying. I think the major culprit is the medical personnel. Heard Moyes changed everything when he came in and we’ve been having this problem since then.

As per Ed. There’s nothing to indicate this will change anytime soon. Going by his latest public statement, the club isn’t really looking for a technical director. He’s just goin to make a little change plus a shift in core transfer philosophy.

The new players we’ve gotten based on this “new idea” seem to be settling well though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:13pm On Sep 28, 2019
inFamouz:
Jones wasn't 1st team injury no go even allow that one play, Rashford martial and to some extent lingard were brilliant under van gaal, he didn't use young that much since he bought Memphis.

the above mentioned players wasn't the reason he failed as they enjoyed brilliant individual campaigns. most of his signings were huge disappointments that even we fans didn't see coming. Schnerderlin darmian bastian Memphis di maria, injury upon injury and his stubbornness with "My captain must play"

He did have a style of play albeit boring, but you could see what he's trying to implement, something that is nonexistent under OGS.
The bolded is just an excuse you people tell yourselves so you can feel good about dragging OGS. Like we've never seen OGS trying to implement a high press abi??

Fact is all that one is just story. I've never believed in it. If the players are good enough, and the manager is up to it, then the team is half there. But at United, the players are shít and the manager is inept.

I'm not saying we shouldn't blame OGS at all. But the players should be blamed equally
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:15pm On Sep 28, 2019
inFamouz:
The board refused to back him, and jose lost it, trying to prove a point to the board by playing Herrera and Mctomanay as Center backs.

Benching and trying to turn our fans against our best player and disrupting the dressing room.

It wasn't rocket science to know that he was looking for his paycheck.
So a manager that just guided his team to a 2nd place finish was unable to finish 2nd again with the same set of players because dem no buy player for am? Sounds like more excuses to me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 8:21pm On Sep 28, 2019
Lana1:

The bolded is just an excuse you people tell yourselves so you can feel good about dragging OGS. Like we've never seen OGS trying to implement a high press abi??

Fact is all that one is just story. I've never believed in it. If the players are good enough, and the manager is up to it, then the team is half there. But at United, the players are shít and the manager is inept.

I'm not saying we should blame OGS at all. But the players should be blamed equally
So what's happening at Chelsea? Barca? Inter? Bayern? No be only High press! Next time you go still come hear the Curse OGS. you do am last week you go still do am next week.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 8:24pm On Sep 28, 2019
Lana1:
So a manager that just guided his team to a 2nd place finish was unable to finish 2nd again with the same set of players because dem no buy player for am? Sounds like more excuses to me.
yea right, Klopp almost finished 7th with people he used to reach CL final.. yea right excuses. Fergie went out of the cl group stage with people he used to reach CL final but you know... Excuses.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 8:25pm On Sep 28, 2019
Lana1:
So a manager that just guided his team to a 2nd place finish was unable to finish 2nd again with the same set of players because dem no buy player for am? Sounds like more excuses to me.
He wanted to bolster the defence that conceded joint least just the season b4 grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:36pm On Sep 28, 2019
chidexxy007:

He wanted to bolster the defence that conceded joint least just the season b4 grin grin
Wetin Musa no go see for gate grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:39pm On Sep 28, 2019
This Thomas Partey dey run things.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 8:42pm On Sep 28, 2019
chidexxy007:

He wanted to bolster the defence that conceded joint least just the season b4 grin grin
The irony considering "Mr attacking football and UTD DNA" went ahead and purchase not one but two defenders and sold some of his attackers.

Quite a suprise we now struggle to score more than a goal against the mighty Astana and Rochdale grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:59pm On Sep 28, 2019
afrodoc2:
This Thomas Partey dey run things.

gringrin

In Atletico... Partey dey run things
In United....... Worse than Matic.. another waste of money.. rot on bench... start insulting the Scout and Woodward

Are we sure Manchester United bad luck is not caused by Witchcraft?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:12pm On Sep 28, 2019
afrodoc2:
This Thomas Partey dey run things.

Exactly! His vision is top notch. I don’t know he he sees those passes. Pep must not get his hands on him.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:20pm On Sep 28, 2019
afrodoc2:
This Thomas Partey dey run things.

Been watching him for about 18 months. Very good solid midfield general. My only issue with him is that sometimes I think he holds onto the ball for too long. Not sure how he would do in the premier league but he definitely has the right basics.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 9:20pm On Sep 28, 2019
Well OGS should get him and turn him to the black Tom Cleverly.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Enemyofpeace: 11:44pm On Sep 28, 2019
Leyqute:


How did we beat Chelsea and Leicester at home this season? Was that bus parking?

I’m tired of talking to people like you. Interacting with you lowers one’s IQ.
Chei you mouth baaaaaaaaaad grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:42am On Sep 29, 2019
inFamouz:
The irony considering "Mr attacking football and UTD DNA" went ahead and purchase not one but two defenders and sold some of his attackers.

Quite a suprise we now struggle to score more than a goal against the mighty Astana and Rochdale grin

Lol..........high-IQ guys can explain the reason we are struggling.....the players noooni, they are not following Ole's takticss (high pressing and counter attacking football).

Shebi Moyes still dey manage enter top 7 with Everton, if this guy stays till the end of the season, na 10th position we go dey drag with Westbrom.

Go against opinions of some guys in here, and they start insulting you. Fucvkers!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:25am On Sep 29, 2019
Mata don dey yarn dust again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:26am On Sep 29, 2019
GloryIsaac:


It's the reason Hugo Lloris decided to dribble the Southampton striker grin

Tbh, Martial needs to come back from injury asap... Liverpool plays quick football while pressing high up the pitch but they hardly have injury issues. Small press, Martial and Co don enter hospital grin

Martial is only a messiah because he doesn't play. When he starts playing week in week out, it will be sell useless Martial

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:35am On Sep 29, 2019
Enemyofpeace:
Chei you mouth baaaaaaaaaad grin grin

Not really. It’s just that the current state of the club is Messing with the mind of some “fans”.

Already we’re not expecting much this season but dem still dey yarn rubbish.

Now, look at nitrogen above. He’s indirectly abusing me but I know I’m not his problem. Utd not Winning has messed up his head. That’s why he believes tactics can turn Rashford into Lewandowski overnight.

It’s not as if Ole shits diamonds, but you gotta leave him alone to do his thing. Pochettino (or other top managers) won’t have it easier if he were here. The Utd job comes with a lot of pressure, the most in England, if not the world.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:44am On Sep 29, 2019
inFamouz:
dis is false. Moyes didn't manage any of our current attackers or midfleders, infact only de gea was a regular under Moyes, Martial, young Ddg and Rashford were class under van gaal. van gaal didn't manage any of our current 1st team midfielders or defenders, only shaw and Shaw's best run was under Van gaal b4 his injury.


Our current manager is garbage! Jose won three trophies with dis guyz and finished 2nd in the league, Van gaal made top 4 and won the FA cup, I can bet you that OGS won't manage to win anything and also won't make top 4.

Martial lost form after having a brilliant start to his career at United and Gaal moved him from number 9 to the left. At some point he was not selected to start.

Rashford had a good start but didn't play long enough under Gaal for a proper judgement
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:03am On Sep 29, 2019
inFamouz:
Jones wasn't 1st team injury no go even allow that one play, Rashford martial and to some extent lingard were brilliant under van gaal, he didn't use young that much since he bought Memphis.

the above mentioned players wasn't the reason he failed as they enjoyed brilliant individual campaigns. most of his signings were huge disappointments that even we fans didn't see coming. Schnerderlin darmian bastian Memphis di maria, injury upon injury and his stubbornness with "My captain must play"

He did have a style of play albeit boring, but you could see what he's trying to implement, something that is nonexistent under OGS.

I disagree with some things. Gaal was our best after SAF but he mismanaged Di Maria. Di Maria began on a brilliant note with great individual play and sexy goals and Assists. But Gaal was too poor to spot that Blind was too weak and slow to play the DM behind Di Maria. So when we lost badly to Leicester, Gaal changed Di Maria position from left midfield diamond (where he excelled in Madrid) to left winger. He killed him. Di Maria despite being sent to the benched was still among the highest on Assists.

Rooney deserved to start, forget newspaper criticism. He was better than Falcao, Mata even Mkhitaryan under Mourinho. Some good counter attacking play happened because he was involved. He and Di Maria did some. Rooney was still number 9 during the time we played our best football since Ferguson. When Gaal played 4-1-4-1, his movement was good for the four players behind him (Young, Fellaini, Herrera and Mata

What have we done since Rooney left? Nothing except getting worse and players losing playing sense. Mkhitaryan, Mata, Lingard that 'Rooney was an obstacle' to their place could not deliver when given Rooney was gone
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 8:36am On Sep 29, 2019
elampiro:


I disagree with some things. Gaal was our best after SAF but he mismanaged Di Maria. Di Maria began on a brilliant note with great individual play and sexy goals and Assists. But Gaal was too poor to spot that Blind was too weak and slow to play the DM behind Di Maria. So when we lost badly to Leicester, Gaal changed Di Maria position from left midfield diamond (where he excelled in Madrid) to left winger. He killed him. Di Maria despite being sent to the benched was still among the highest on Assists.
I agree he mismanaged di maria.

Rooney deserved to start, forget newspaper criticism. He was better than Falcao, Mata even Mkhitaryan under Mourinho. Some good counter attacking play happened because he was involved. He and Di Maria did some. Rooney was still number 9 during the time we played our best football since Ferguson. When Gaal played 4-1-4-1, his movement was good for the four players behind him (Young, Fellaini, Herrera and Mata
Rooney deserved to start in Van gaals 1st season, but the 2nd season he was sh!t, and i agree we played our best football under Van gaal in his 1st season.

What have we done since Rooney left? Nothing except getting worse and players losing playing sense. Mkhitaryan, Mata, Lingard that 'Rooney was an obstacle' to their place could not deliver when given Rooney was gone
we finished 2nd and reached the FA cup final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:52am On Sep 29, 2019
Thomas Partey was great yesterday, he can be a little hot headed but he is definitely one to keep an eye on...Matic, should be binned for him come summer.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 9:02am On Sep 29, 2019
Nobody's talking about that McGuinn .....just saying..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 9:06am On Sep 29, 2019
elampiro:


Martial lost form after having a brilliant start to his career at United and Gaal moved him from number 9 to the left. At some point he was not selected to start.
Martial played mostly on the left even during the start of his Career, he was brilliant throughout the season considering it was his first season as a teenager in a shaky team.

And martial was one if not the most Important player in our team as of then, dem no born van gaal well to drop martial.

Rashford had a good start but didn't play long enough under Gaal for a proper judgement
nevertheless he was still amazing in his limited time with Gaal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:59am On Sep 29, 2019
LMDyaya:
Nobody's talking about that McGuinn .....just saying..

That is probably who Ole will sign.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 10:05am On Sep 29, 2019
imagine getting back Memphis and zaha

memphis go dey alternate between AM and the flanks...while zaha holds down the right flank

then since Shaw is unreliable with injuries, AWB will move to LB while Dalot takes RB

if Pogba stays...get him to play his favourite LCM

get a rock solid DMF

let martial and greenwood battle it out at CF
let Rashford and james fight for any of the available flanks


The buys we need
✓✓...Memphis(mostly to play AM)
✓✓...Zaha
✓✓...a flexible DM...not the Matic type undecided
✓✓...a box-to-box MF

If Pochettino becomes available, OLE should be made director of Football let Pochettino take the reins

there's also this Haaland who worked with OLE
if Martial starts his rubbish...make we get that guy to join greenwood
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by footiemaniac: 10:21am On Sep 29, 2019
inFamouz:
The way dis guy take disappear like the fart of a leprous witch eh... grin

Oga, I nor disappear anything. I have other things going on in my life that needed more attention than Nairaland football section. I still stand by what i said earlier. Shalom
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by inFamouz: 10:24am On Sep 29, 2019
footiemaniac:


Oga, I nor disappear anything. I have other things going on in my life that needed more attention than Nairaland football section. I still stand by what i said earlier. Shalom
yea right, what you said is rubbish! doesn't matter weda you stand or sit down by it grin all ur positivity na wash!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by footiemaniac: 10:49am On Sep 29, 2019
inFamouz:
yea right, what you said is rubbish! doesn't matter weda you stand or sit down by it grin all ur positivity na wash!
That was my own opinion, you are definitely entitled to yours.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:23am On Sep 29, 2019
elampiro:


Martial is only a messiah because he doesn't play. When he starts playing week in week out, it will be sell useless Martial


Lmaooooo... But Martial won't miss all those chances Rashford missed.

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