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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by wirinet(m): 10:16am On Oct 08, 2019
Ikechunna:


Stop lying. I've been on this forum long enough to witness the Yoruba actions even before IPOB came to. Even on this forum, each time it was reported that Massob members were killed, Yorubas on this forum mocked and rejoiced over their death. That's all over this forum and I'll be more than happy to back that up with screenshots. Just say go ahead. In addition, when BZM were arrested and paraded around in Enugu state, again on this forum, the people that mocked and belittled them were again Yoruba. Laughable how you Yorubas always lie to act innocent. Even before IPOB came into the picture, Yoruba were always the evil, demonic, animals they are. I know my despise towards Afonjas didn't stem from IPOB, it stemmed from Yoruba actions anytime Igbos were killed especially Massob members. I repeat say go ahead and I'll provide multiple screenshots to back up my statement..
I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by wirinet(m): 10:19am On Oct 08, 2019
nku5:


Correct!

Even before IPOB remember how yoruba posters on NL would upload pictures of dying Igbo children during the civil war to mock them. In my opinion that made many Igbos start admiring ipob.

What made me join NL was a post I saw celebrating Igbos that died in a boko haram attack in the north

I will really appreciate it, if you could show us links of Yorubas posters mocking dying igbo children during the war, before kanu started insulting Yorubas on Radio Biafra.


Here are some quotes from kanu from radio biafra when he first started insulting Yorubas;

“It's always Yoruba people, head of Pentecostal, head of Catholic, head of Anglican. Hausas are killing us, Yorubas are sucking our blood”.

“If you’re attending a Yoruba church, you should be ashamed of yourself”, he continued. “Anybody attending a pentecostal church with a Yoruba pastor is an idiot, a complete fool, an slowpoke. They are worse than Boko Haram. If your pastor is Yoruba, you are not fit to be a human being”.

Kanu never said he hate Yorubas because Yorubas were mocking igbo children that died during the war. He just hated the Yorubas.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:22am On Oct 08, 2019
horsepower101:


It is actually necessary. There is a lot of misinformation flying around and it is important to see different sides of the story by seeing what various opinions are.

But most importantly, use all the information that you see in various related threads and do your personal research. Eventually, you will figure out the truth for yourself.

You igbos don’t know how dumb you sound. How can you tell an Igbo man to deny his identity if he’s truly Igbo? These people are the ones saying they are not igbos not Yoruba telling them they are not Igbo. A Yoruba man anywhere in the world knows he’s Yoruba. You can’t tell a Yoruba man from kogi or Kwara that he’s not Yoruba.

Look at how Omashola projected Yoruba image in the Bigbrother house even though he’s Itshekiri. Look at Omawumi, Ay, Oritshefemi. You see them being proud of Yoruba.

You igbos should stop blaming Yoruba for your woes. It’s getting boring. Can a Yoruba man tell you to deny Igbo? Is that how fickle minded you people are?

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:24am On Oct 08, 2019
mrvitalis:

Thats your business ...maybe u don't value ur brothers

The number saying in Igbo land is.... don't leave your brother behind ...


Can you mention any Yoruba tribe that is denying Yoruba? Yorubas know themselves. Nobody can tell a Yoruba man to deny his identity. You guys are inferior if you believe a Yoruba man is telling you to deny Igbo.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:26am On Oct 08, 2019
valenu:
Yorubas should mind their business and stop comparing themselves with the Igbos. If the Yorubas do not want to be united with their brothers, they should allow Igbos who wish to be reunited with their brothers to do so. Yorubas should stop witch hunting the Igbos as no one is better than the other. The fact that a man is OK living in different town with his wife does not mean another man is OK with it. That man should not expect other men to do same, after all, the man is not a role model to others.
You are a nitwit. Your brother opened this thread accusing Yoruba and you want Yoruba to mind their business?

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:27am On Oct 08, 2019
valenu:

That was how Ojukwu set Awolowo free from the calabar prison to go and set his people free from Nigeria after being imprisoned by those Hausa soldiers in charge of government. Awolowo agreed only to change his mind when those Hausa soldiers offered him the position of the minister of finance. Those soldiers later dealt with him until he prefered to die.

Where is the link to this lie? Why do you people live a lie?

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by mrvitalis(m): 10:28am On Oct 08, 2019
ProudDick:


Can you mention any Yoruba tribe that is denying Yoruba? Yorubas know themselves. Nobody can tell a Yoruba man to deny his identity. You guys are inferior if you believe a Yoruba man is telling you to deny Igbo.
Yes there a lot in ondo ,badagry ,ijebu should I mention awories ?
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:30am On Oct 08, 2019
mrvitalis:

Yes there a lot in ondo ,badagry ,ijebu should I mention awories ?

I’m from ondo. Which tribe denies Yoruba in ondo?

Badagry are Egun. Ijebu and Awori are pure Yorubas. Stick to what you know you fool.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by mrvitalis(m): 10:40am On Oct 08, 2019
ProudDick:


I’m from ondo. Which tribe denies Yoruba in ondo?

Badagry are Egun. Ijebu and Awori are pure Yorubas. Stick to what you know you fool.
My grand ma is from ilaje and they claim they are not Yoruba's

As for ijebu u know more than their king ?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:43am On Oct 08, 2019
MelesZenawi:


So this now a false story.

Am not suprise and am fully aware there will be denial.

At least one of your brothers has said that he remains grateful to British who made you guys and probably west benefactor.


That shows am right anyway.

That guy is a northerner. Ibadan people are mostly ijebu historically. So stick to what you know.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:44am On Oct 08, 2019
mrvitalis:

My grand ma is from ilaje and they claim they are not Yoruba's

As for ijebu u know more than their king ?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/amp/

Lol. Your grandma is Ilaje. grin grin grin
So what are they? Igbos? Go to Ilaje and tell them they are not Yoruba.

There are different stories to the origins of Yoruba. Some claim to be from Sudan, some Egypt, some Saudi Arabia.

You sound like an slowpoke.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 10:44am On Oct 08, 2019
wirinet:

I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/


Still more.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 10:46am On Oct 08, 2019
wirinet:

I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/


This is from just one topic only ooo. Don't worry, there's more

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 10:47am On Oct 08, 2019
wirinet:

I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 10:49am On Oct 08, 2019
wirinet:

I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/


All from one topic. I'll stop right here for this topic. I'll be back screenshots from another one.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:49am On Oct 08, 2019
nairabitcoins:

In my opinion, this is a very childish question. Have you asked yourself why Yorubas are always the first to attack Biafran aspiration, and in so doing instigate other groups to do so, expecially the South South? Do you know how dear Biafra is to the average Igboman? Are you aware that Yorubas will even gain in this Biafran struggle? Yes, because it could lead to total restructure which every party involve will benefit. But Yorubas have made it their point of duty to attack and ridicule anything Biafra both on this forum, and other public platform. The question is why?

Yoruba do not attack Biafra. We are only against kanu because of his hate speeches against Yoruba. Conduct a referendum in Yoruba land for Biafra and 90% will want you to leave our land.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 10:52am On Oct 08, 2019
Nowenuse:


This is good. Why then aren't Yorubas making serious and concerted efforts to unite the Yoruba nation? Like the Igbos are doing?

Unite as how? Are we devided? Are Yorubas from kwara or kogi different from the ones in south west? What do you mean by unite. Or they should all abandon their land and move to south west?
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Westbestside: 10:56am On Oct 08, 2019
wirinet:

I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/

You think he will give you proof. All they know is yorubas are rejoicing when they kill ipob, nothing more. Na only epistle. Wait for him and see how he write another epistle instead of proof you asked him. That is how they are designed.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Westbestside: 11:00am On Oct 08, 2019
ProudDick:


You igbos don’t know how dumb you sound. How can you tell an Igbo man to deny his identity if he’s truly Igbo? These people are the ones saying they are not igbos not Yoruba telling them they are not Igbo. A Yoruba man anywhere in the world knows he’s Yoruba. You can’t tell a Yoruba man from kogi or Kwara that he’s not Yoruba.

Look at how Omashola projected Yoruba image in the Bigbrother house even though he’s Itshekiri. Look at Omawumi, Ay, Oritshefemi. You see them being proud of Yoruba.

You igbos should stop blaming Yoruba for your woes. It’s getting boring. Can a Yoruba man tell you to deny Igbo? Is that how fickle minded you people are?
Abeg stop telling them to stop blaming yorubas, let see how their wailing, gnashing of teeth and blame will improve the impoverished lives of their parents.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Westbestside: 11:02am On Oct 08, 2019
mrvitalis:

Yes there a lot in ondo ,badagry ,ijebu should I mention awories ?
Shut your akpu mouth, I am from ondo and a bona-fide Yoruba.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 11:03am On Oct 08, 2019
wirinet:

I challenge you to provide screens shots and links (newspaper articles ) to prove that Yorubas were rejoicing when Obasanjo was arresting MASSOB leaders and Uwazurike. The main reason Kanu broke away from MASSOB, was that he felt MASSOB was too soft, and prefers the "militant" approach. Yorubas never had problems with Massob.
BZM and IPOB were splinter groups from MASSOB, that felt MASSOB had been compromised or that they are too soft. BZM did not insult Yorubas, or say they cannot live in the same country with Yorubas. It is IPOB that did the most damage. IPOB had generated so much hatred between Yorubas and igbos.

See the Declaration of Biafra by BZM in 2012, it did not even mention Yoruba; - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/07/group-to-declare-state-of-biafra-nov-5/amp/

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Westbestside: 11:03am On Oct 08, 2019
ProudDick:


I’m from ondo. Which tribe denies Yoruba in ondo?

Badagry are Egun. Ijebu and Awori are pure Yorubas. Stick to what you know you fool.
Maybe they went to his parents to tell them in the heir family

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Westbestside: 11:04am On Oct 08, 2019
[quote author=Ikechunna post=82947092][/quote]Zombie, where did the writer put igbo?
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Westbestside: 11:06am On Oct 08, 2019
Ikechunna:


All from one topic. I'll stop right here for this topic. I'll be back screenshots from another one.
Mumu, so warning you is rejoice abi
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by adoboy04(m): 11:07am On Oct 08, 2019
horsepower101:
Time to set the records straight.

The worst thing that happened to the Igbos after the civil war was State creation. It was done to cut the igbo nation to size and relegate them to a political minority.

In addition, it separated igbo villages, communities, and brethren into artificial territories that we call states.

These Igbo territories are mostly in the political south south region and few in the middle belt.

Now the problem is that when Igbos point out this injustice or try to relate to their folks in other territories, they face a surge of attacks and accusations of
Land grabbers'
Expansionist
attache by force
etc.

When in reality, they just want to reach out to other Igbos trapped in fake states created by Nigeria.

These accusations mostly come from a particular part of the country that really hate Igbos but also hate to see them go or succeed.

But apart from those hateful folks, there are strong elements in the artificial south south and middle belt territories that echo the same false sentiments

"Igbos are only limited in the south east. the rest in outside are just migrants"

The solution:
Its time we have a real Pan-Igbo organization that truly includes all Igbo clans in Nigeria including those in the middle belt areas. Ohaneze has really failed in this area. Some people have a vested interest in seeing the Igbo nation divided and weakened. We must make sure that they fail.

cc: Pazienza

I always hate to hear that Nigeria don't let them go. Are u going now and people around u say u should not go.
Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by mrvitalis(m): 11:07am On Oct 08, 2019
ProudDick:


Lol. Your grandma is Ilaje. grin grin grin
So what are they? Igbos? Go to Ilaje and tell them they are not Yoruba.

There are different stories to the origins of Yoruba. Some claim to be from Sudan, some Egypt, some Saudi Arabia.

You sound like an slowpoke.
Yes now u are claiming them but u sound smart when u say Igbo's in south south are not Igbo's right

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 11:09am On Oct 08, 2019
Cc wirinet or whatever you call yourself

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 11:10am On Oct 08, 2019
Cc wirinet.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 11:11am On Oct 08, 2019
Cc wirinet

You need more cause I got more waiting. The internet does not forget nigga

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 11:13am On Oct 08, 2019
mrvitalis:

Yes now u are claiming them but u sound smart when u say Igbo's in south south are not Igbo's right

How do you claim what is not lost? Ilajes are Yoruba just like Akoko, Owo, ijesha, oyo, egba, ijebu, okun etc.

I never said they are not igbos. They are the ones saying it. Sometimes I even tell them they are igbos which they vehemently denied. My first girlfriend is from delta Igbo. I met a guy in nysc from anioma who said he’s not Igbo even though he speaks Igbo. He said he understands Igbo but igbos do not understand his language. So face your own problem without bringing Yoruba into it.

Yorubas see anybody from Edo as Igbo and anybody after Kwara and kogi as Hausa. A man from Bauchi almost fought me for calling him Hausa.

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by Ikechunna: 11:14am On Oct 08, 2019
Westbestside:
Mumu, so warning you is rejoice abi
This fool obviously got eye disease. Oya come and report again that IPOB triggered una demonic behaviour. Say it again. Children of hell. Demons

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Re: The Consequences Of State Creation On Igbos by ProudDick: 11:18am On Oct 08, 2019
Ikechunna:

This fool obviously got eye disease. Oya come and report again that IPOB triggered una demonic behaviour. Say it again. Children of hell. Demons

How come you didn’t screenshot the hate from igbos from those threads?

You people only know how to cry victims.

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