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edoairways:
Ese Oruru was a minor as at that time. She wasn't forced to convert to Islam rather she was overwhelmed by the love for her boyfriend. However those kids weren't forced into Christianity. They were kidnapped and illegally adopted.

My point exactly. But CAN and other Christians in Nigeria turned it something else. The media was on the lock down. They forced the girl until she changed her narrative

shadeyinka:
1. Jesus didn't come to abolish the law
Mat 5:17:
"Think not that I have come to abolish the law, or the prophets: for I have come not abolish, but to complete."
2. Even the New Testament abhor kidnapping

1Tim 1:8-11:
"Of course, we know that the Law is good if a person uses it legitimately, that is, if he understands that the Law is not intended for righteous people but for lawbreakers and rebels, for ungodly people and sinners, for those who are unholy and irreverent, for those who kill their fathers, their mothers, or other people, for those involved in sexual immorality, for homosexuals, for kidnappers , for liars, for false witnesses, and for whatever else goes against the healthy teaching that agrees with the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me."


In other words, a Christian will fulfill the LAW naturally without needing the law in black and white because he is a new creation and OLD THINGS have passed away.

People are experts at justifying themselves be it good or bad provided it's for their own interest.

They will quote Mathew 5 vs 17 for you, but they won't tell you to read from 17 - 20. All for selfish purposes.

You must understand that there's no perfect being, the only perfect being I know is Jesus. Your Pastor just like every other person is prone to make mistakes.

Why did Jesus said He haven't come to abolish the law?

Now, Jesus wasn't preaching to them like others and they were surprised, so they were thinking He has come to abolish their laws and traditions. They thought He brought something new entirely different from the scripture (old testament) which they already knew, then Jesus said to them in the book of Matthew 5:17

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Jesus also told them this.

Mathew 5 vs 20
"20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

It's obvious, Jesus made them understand that obeying the law cannot take them to heaven in verse 20 ☺.

Jesus broke the law in the book of Mark 2:24 and they were all calling for his head. It was because of the laws He broke and his teachings that made them choose a thief over Jesus. The death and resurrection of Christ is the fulfillment of the law. The chapter has closed and a new one was introduced. Christ fulfilled the old covenants and established a new one.

Do not allow anyone impose the laws in old testament on you. Read what Paul said.

Romans 6:14

14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Now, see why old testament laws shouldn't be practice by Christians.

Read Galatians 3 vs 15 - 29

I was making research and I stumbled upon this great page which explained Mathew 5:17-20 bit by bit.

Visit https://bible.org/seriespage/14-not-abolish-fulfill-matthew-517-20 for more understanding on this subject.

Galatians 3 vs 10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

What the above scripture is saying is that if you're to practice the law at all, you MUST practice everything in the book of the law, that's the 613 laws. The scripture said EVERYTHING not some things that suits you, and for you to pick up just one or two and practice them, the scripture said you're under a curse.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
.

Hebrew 8 vs 13
"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Malawian:
Just see how they are ranting Igbo Igbo Igbo like a dog on heat. Maybe this was how the massacres preceding the war started. Biko, when you guys are ready, let us know. Don't be a coward by attacking women and children and running away afterwards. We can all see the 4 inconsequential individuals involved in a crime to give almajiri children a better life in the pictures abi? But they are all baying Igbo Igbo Igbo. Biko' start that thing in earnest.

Were you bought over too by foster parent?

Youngzedd:
People are experts at justifying themselves be it good or bad provided it's for their own interest.

They will quote Mathew 5 vs 17 for you, but they won't tell you to read from 17 - 20. All for selfish purposes.

You must understand that there's no perfect being, the only perfect being I know is Jesus. Your Pastor just like every other person is prone to make mistakes.

Why did Jesus said He haven't come to abolish the law?

Now, Jesus wasn't preaching to them like others and they were surprised, so they were thinking He has come to abolish their laws and traditions. They thought He brought something new entirely different from the scripture (old testament) which they already knew, then Jesus said to them in the book of Matthew 5:17

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Jesus also told them this.

Mathew 5 vs 20
"20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

It's obvious, Jesus made them understand that obeying the law cannot take them to heaven in verse 20 ☺.

Jesus broke the law in the book of Mark 2:24 and they were all calling for his head. It was because of the laws He broke and his teachings that made them choose a thief over Jesus. The death and resurrection of Christ is the fulfillment of the law. The chapter has closed and a new one was introduced. Christ fulfilled the old covenants and established a new one.

Do not allow anyone impose the laws in old testament on you. Read what Paul said.

Romans 6:14

14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Now, see why old testament laws shouldn't be practice by Christians.

Read Galatians 3 vs 15 - 29

I was making research and I stumbled upon this great page which explained Mathew 5:17-20 bit by bit.

Visit https://bible.org/seriespage/14-not-abolish-fulfill-matthew-517-20 for more understanding on this subject.

Galatians 3 vs 10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

What the above scripture is saying is that if you're to practice the law at all, you MUST practice everything in the book of the law, that's the 613 laws. The scripture said EVERYTHING not some things that suits you, and for you to pick up just one or two and practice them, the scripture said you're under a curse.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
.

Hebrew 8 vs 13
"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Christians are prone to swing to extremes. I hope you aren't!?
1. First Extreme:
The Law is outdated: not for Christians!
2. Second Extreme:
Every law must be observed by Christians

The truth:
The new testament standard for Christians is that Christians do not live by the law as their new nature naturally fulfills and exceeds the law.

Please don't forget that there are three kinds of laws in the Old testament
1. Law of physical cleanliness/hygiene ( Leprosy, Menses etc)
2. Ceremonial laws (Tithes, sacrifices etc)
3. Law of sin (e.g. 10 commandments)

A Christian is free from 1&2 but is bound by 3. Do you think a Christian can break 3 and still be a faithful Christian?

shadeyinka:
Christians are prone to swing to extremes. I hope you aren't!?
1. First Extreme:
The Law is outdated: not for Christians!
2. Second Extreme:
Every law must be observed by Christians

The truth:
The new testament standard for Christians is that Christians do not live by the law as their new nature naturally fulfills and exceeds the law.

Please don't forget that there are three kinds of laws in the Old testament
1. Law of physical cleanliness/hygiene ( Leprosy, Menses etc)
2. Ceremonial laws (Tithes, sacrifices etc)
3. Law of sin (e.g. 10 commandments)

A Christian is free from 1&2 but is bound by 3. Do you think a Christian can break 3 and still be a faithful Christian?

All the 3 kinds of laws are found in this one given by Christ.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Yehoshua replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”




That's Christian law

Youngzedd:
All the 3 kinds of laws are found in this one given by Christ.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Yehoshua replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”




That's Christian law

I do not dispute that Love is the Christian greatest command. What I am against is a blanket rule of " the law has been done away with in its entirety: that is an extreme.

Don't forget that the greatest commandment from the mouth of Jesus Himself is found in the old testament (the Law)

Deu 6:5:
"You are to love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your strength."

And Jesus added: "Love your neighbor as yourself".

Christians are NOT ruled by the law: they fulfill the law naturally because they are a new creature (and old things which required the hard law has passed away)