0monnak0da:
And war is the way to manage "dislike"??

seunmsg:


South west will present candidates for the presidential tickets of APC and PDP. There is nothing like micro zoning again. When it was the turn of south west to produce the PDP national chairman, Wike brought out Secondus and argued that the position was zoned to the south and not south west. He got the backing of Igbos and bought the delegates from the north. South west accepted the outcome because we understand it was politics.

In 2023, same scenario will play out. All interested southerners will contest and Nigerians will decide.

DMerciful:
Who says separation must be through war? The Igbos will be happy to leave and I expect the Hausas and Yorubas to be happy to see Igbos leave! They must have been fed up with them. What I don't understand is someone you have subtly designed out of your political process, you insist on being with you perhaps they know the only uniting factor of Nigeria is the Igbos. Have you imagined what will happen if the Igbos leave? Balkanization! It's in Nigeria's interest that Igbos get 2023 presidency

0monnak0da:

You started the talk of war not me.
Balkanization would happen if ANYONE leaves whether Ibo, Ijaw , Ibibio,Itsekiri, Urhobo or Chibok. You are always unnecessarily emotional.
Leaving has nothing to do with presidency. No one will give you the presidency. If you work hard you will get it and to my mind you are looking at 16 years minimum.(with good behaviour)

All these threats to leave will count as bad behaviour adding to your tariff

DMerciful:
Who says separation must be through war? The Igbos will be happy to leave and I expect the Hausas and Yorubas to be happy to see Igbos leave! They must have been fed up with them. What I don't understand is someone you have subtly designed out of your political process, you insist on being with you perhaps they know the only uniting factor of Nigeria is the Igbos. Have you imagined what will happen if the Igbos leave? Balkanization! It's in Nigeria's interest that Igbos get 2023 presidency

DMerciful:
The Igbos will soon get an honourable peace! You cannot take a determined people for granted for too long!

QuotaSystem:
There are only two ways to leave Nigeria.

Diplomacy (which you clearly hate) or War (which you've already threatened but are incapable of).

Don't kid yourself. Its your call.

P. S - Nobody "subtly designed" Igbos out of the political process. You simply played yourselves out of relevance.

0monnak0da:
What has that got to do with presidency?

I am sorry but the dialog is almost childish.
No one will give you the presidency.
All this talk of pass to me or I will take my ball home is pointless.

What if Alex Ekwueme had won the presidency what were Yoruba supposed to do burn the country?

DMerciful:
You don't want the Igbos to participate unless they beg and at the same time you want them with you? I really don't understand! I don't like to be with who I don't like to be with! If Nigeria is a cohesive nation, how come everybody is certain that if Igbo leaves, everybody leaves?

DMerciful:
You are talking of hypothetical situation that doesn't exist. Hausa has ruled! Yorubas were handed the presidency due to how Abiola was cheated in 1993. Everybody agrees it's the turn of Igbos but they insist Igbos must be punished forf 2015 and 2019 choices and if they are sober they will be considered afterwards. What clearer message to tell Igbos they are not wanted in this Nigerian project? If over 60% of the people say we know it's your turn but you must atone for your iniquities, why not move on? You are seeing presidential position while we are seeing common dislike. Our nature does not allow us to beg, so what next?

DMerciful:
You are talking of hypothetical situation that doesn't exist. Hausa has ruled! Yorubas were handed the presidency due to how Abiola was cheated in 1993. Everybody agrees it's the turn of Igbos but they insist Igbos must be punished forf 2015 and 2019 choices and if they are sober they will be considered afterwards. What clearer message to tell Igbos they are not wanted in this Nigerian project? If over 60% of the people say we know it's your turn but you must atone for your iniquities, why not move on? You are seeing presidential position while we are seeing common dislike. Our nature does not allow us to beg, so what next?

BoboNkiti19:
yorubas are not smelling that presidency, you can take that to the bank. Na here we go dey come 2023, let God keep us and the major players of that election alive to witness how events will unfold... with Bubu gone on 2023,we will see which candidate APC will bring out that will command the same amount of clout and followership as Buhari does.

raumdeuter:


Yorubas were not handed the presidency, they won it by defeating Ekwueme at the primaries

BoboNkiti19:
yorubas are not smelling that presidency, you can take that to the bank. Na here we go dey come 2023, let God keep us and the major players of that election alive to witness how events will unfold... with Bubu gone on 2023,we will see which candidate APC will bring out that will command the same amount of clout and followership as Buhari does.

QuotaSystem:


I also don't want to be ruled by who I don't want to be ruled by. If you want to rule, you will learn to stoop to conquer.

You cannot refuse to support the North and its candidate, insult the North, grandstand and refuse to make amends, yet expect support of the majority North with their votes

You will beg. You're already swallowing your vomit and stylishly begging APC for inclusion. Wake up and smell the coffee.

0monnak0da:
Let us assume that happens and they do not smell it is that a triumph for the Eboes?

0monnak0da:
How were Yoruba "handed" the presidency

Please explain this to me slowly did we all fall asleep,get handed the presidency/pregnancy and not notice

Sorry bro that NEVER happened .
The Yoruba DEFEATED them .
If it were handed over then Ekwueme would not have contested.
Ekwueme then went down in history to contest against the inccumbent in 2003.
But the Eboes never contested against Jonathan.
So the question of TURN has to be put to vote just like with Ekwueme.
Let us call it the Ekwueme protocol or model
What about Kanuri don't they have a turn?

0monnak0da:
Let us assume that happens and they do not smell it is that a triumph for the Eboes?

BoboNkiti19:

Why should any Igbo care about a bloody yaribanza? you lots have been politically irrelevant politically for a long time until recently after been stuck in the oasis of political opposition. Even OBJ that ruled for 8 years was put there as a lackey by the North, with significant contributions by the Igbos... The only reason you manage enter spotlight na because of Buhari(who's popularity in the North is a strategic pivot for the North to consolidate their gains for 2023 again) , take him out of the equation and you are back to been irrelevant again... 2023 will put a permanent seal of fate on you degenerates, better start preparing that Yoruba politician that will stand a chance as a flagbearer for APC... hope Tinubu becomes the man for you bas.tard. Look at these pawn in the political chess game of a mere Aboki having the gall to talk about Igbos.

DMerciful:
How did they defeat Ekwueme who was a founding member? Through Northern votes! The Northerners have used their population to ensure Igbos are defeated politically esp because Islam is not welcome in SE. It's all about religion. Same Northerners with ensure SW wins if they are in the ticket in 2023! So what's the point?

DMerciful:
Did Igbos not vote Yaradua? Did Igbos not vote Tofa? Did Igbos not vote Atiku? Did Igbos not vote Shagari? Or are these not Northerners? You can see when people want to scheme you out, they will fabricate excuses.

What Igbos are saying is that what was done for yorubas in 1999 should be done for igbos

QuotaSystem:


Why should the North suddenly be interested in supporting the SE in its political quest or even be concerned about it? To the point of even making power concessions in their interest like you're begging for?

What support has the SE given the North to even expect such support? Insults? Constant antagonism? Hatred and blackmail against their much loved PMB? 5% protest block votes against their favorite candidate?

I mean what really? Do you now see how you people play politics like thoughtless toddlers? I hope you now get the picture.

As to your first question, you need to outplay Yorubas by mending fences and building better alliances or else just like you fear, an Igbo man will continue to be beaten silly by any Yoruba man (or 12 year old kid) on the same ticket in any national election in this country for the next 100 years.

DMerciful:
OK, so if you say the Igbos must contest then why zoning to South? Let every body contest according to the Constitution and whoever wins, win.

DMerciful:
Did Igbos not vote Yaradua? Did Igbos not vote Tofa? Did Igbos not vote Atiku? Did Igbos not vote Shagari? Or are these not Northerners? You can see when people want to scheme you out, they will fabricate excuses. What Igbos are saying is that what was done for yorubas in 1999 should be done for igbos

QuotaSystem:


You voted Atiku (who certainly wasn't the northern favorite) out of hatred for Buhari and love for Obi. Nobody is fooled. Whatever northern goodwill you had before then was eroded with your post Jonathan anti-Buhari/anti-north antics.

Your last statement brings us back to square one. Why should we?

Digest it and Good night.

DMerciful:
Did Igbos not vote Yaradua? Did Igbos not vote Tofa? Did Igbos not vote Atiku? Did Igbos not vote Shagari? Or are these not Northerners? You can see when people want to scheme you out, they will fabricate excuses. What Igbos are saying is that what was done for yorubas in 1999 should be done for igbos

raumdeuter:


What was done for Yorubas? They allowed Yorubas and other Southern people to contest the tickets and Yoruba with their political smartness won

raumdeuter:


What was done for Yorubas? They allowed Yorubas and other Southern people to contest the tickets and Yoruba with their political smartness won

0monnak0da:
So why do you keep blaming the Yoruba for sabotaging the SE economy and denying you sea access

Seeing how you have been in charge and running things with your Fulani buddies??
How come the whole country are not flocking to Honitcha and Enugun to sell FanYogo?

BoboNkiti19:

ogbeni wake up from your delusions, I don't know which Igbos you are interacting with, or maybe you take Nairaland as your own version of reality (well good on that)... but out there in the 3D reality of the real world, no Igbo gives two SH*TS about Yaribas, much less their issues... why the hell should we? don't mistake useless Igbo politicians or anonymous interest groups complainimg about the SE economy or exclusion from the political thresholds in Nigeria, those ones are only after their individual or collective pockets! the average Igbo man on the street is top busy hustling to make money and impact his family and immediate community to give a hoot about Nigeria or his myriad of issues.


And the whole country doesn't need to flock to "Honitcha" or "Enugun" because we both know you come from a region of largely unambitious idiots that hardly travel and explore opportunities outside (except it's UK of course), so I can't blame you for your ignorance. But if you must know, lots of your brothers and sisters are in Significantly large numbers in Enugun, Honitcha and other Igbo areas, they are not just counted as relevant cause they don't invest anything of substance in The East besides hawking Agbo jedijedi, doing cabu cabu, or mentoring others how to be motor park touts

DMerciful:
The two major parties fielded only Yoruba presidential candidates! So this time the two major parties should field Igbo candidate! It's called equity

0monnak0da:

I think I will have to pass on the obviously wonderful and exciting opportunities in Honitcha and Enu-gun and stick to terra cognita in Lagos