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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by dalongjnr: 6:18am On Oct 29, 2019
Someone said university lectures are not core civil servants, so what are they? Contract or ad-hoc staff!
The corruption in the universities needs to be controlled or else, it will consumed all of us. From admission racketeering, to convocation wahala, lecture notes bruhaha.. to lecturers who only come for lectures towards exams and during the first 3 weeks of a semester,fraudulent earned allowances..... I can go on. Some even cherished their private jobs than their primary assignments.
IPPS is a most,because every lecturer must earn and be remitted what is due him/her.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by SamuelAnyawu(m): 6:18am On Oct 29, 2019
favouryemmy:


[s]You're wrong, because the content of this write up is the truth. The person that wrote is a good person that wants the readers to understand that ASUU has a genuine reason to reject the untoward policy. Did you even click on the links below to discover the corruption in IPPIS? When you see facts, you should reason with it. Those links show what people that have enrolled in IPPIS are suffering and that is part of why ASUU is rejecting it. We should face facts and not insinuations. Besides, IPPIS is designed for core civil servants and University workers are not in that category.[/s]


Mr Lecturer we gave heard you grin

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by snadguy007(m): 6:18am On Oct 29, 2019
Ok
Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by GOFRONT(m): 6:19am On Oct 29, 2019
When Nigerian Lecturers sees IPPIS coming......

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Geenosko: 6:19am On Oct 29, 2019
favouryemmy:


You don't have to agree but you should know the truth!

My supervisor in university was a full time lecturer in another private university, I even helped him mark scripts and record scores. So it's very disingenuous of you to say that lecturers don't hold multiple jobs. It's definitely not all but quite a few do.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by agabusta: 6:20am On Oct 29, 2019
jadeliyi:

if you really care to know it not that they are being scared, but the government it self devise means to cheat, in this IPPIS when you are 60 years of age the system automatically remove, and a proffesor who are entil to lecture up to 70 years. not that alone the system is not programme to activate and pay outstanding fee of promotion and allowance. there are other thing they are 'SCARED' of sha.

The IPPIS is not a fixed and rigid system. It can be fine tuned to accommodate the flexibility ASUU desires.

Why should someone who is supposed to retire by 70years be yanked off at 65 years? It does not make sense.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Olami112: 6:20am On Oct 29, 2019
Greedy set of people, Let them accept IPPIS period . If not , if any foolish ASUU go on strike for any useless reasons,
They are Doom

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by EduTechTainMent: 6:22am On Oct 29, 2019
destinie2019:


The university system has a structure that allows sabbaticals (every 7 years a lecturer can spend 1 year lecturing elsewhere), external examiners for final year projects and professional exams, visiting lecturers, special occasions like excursions or off station classes (French students go to French village Badagry or Lome) etc etc. In all these situations the lecturer draws special allowances. If you inaugurate IPPIS, these allowances will show up as suspicious transactions.
STUDENTS WILL END UP SUFFERING FOR WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE DOING.

Students are already suffering. Ńa only ASSU waka come!!!

Sabbatical lecturers earn full time salary for 1 Yr frm the place they work as sabbatical staff. This is a legally provided for.

Visiting lecturers earn half their salary from the visiting institutions in addition to the full pay frm their places of primary employment. Now the law provides for how visitation to different universities should work both in terms of distance frome ones primary place of employment and the number of institutions to visit. Almost all lectures don't obey these laws.

You find a single lecturer visiting at 3 to 4 sister Universities, invariably blocking the opportunity for others to get employed. Yet we complain of unemployment of our youths. We hv qualified vibrant youths with PhD yearning to take up these positions but these selfish practices hinder them frm doing so.

External examiners and their likes are all given allowances for this task, yet they never fail to extort students. You go pay for virtually everything the external examiner does, sometimes even as high as the registration fees just so he can do his work, all without receipt self. Na like "legalised bribe". No one tells you about these extra fees b4 u start d program ó.

I can go on and on but make i stop here. Nigerians are the true definition of selfishness and self centredness. When they want to be called to order, they whip up public sentiments and sympathy.

Some Unproductive Profs should retire at 70 yrs, when dey hv next to zero research output, grant attraction and teaching output. Na salary dem just dey earn. Yes there experience is important ironically but not in Nigeria, where such experience is not put to good use.

Yes the IPPIS may not be perfect. It takes time to perfect such a system and the govt isn't against modifications to accommodate the peculiarities of academic staff. Instead of them to work together with govt to improve the system them dey there they cry wolf.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by shugabasbn: 6:26am On Oct 29, 2019
Yes u are right but majority of them have so many part time jibs that they forget their primary jobs.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Consultville(m): 6:26am On Oct 29, 2019
He that pays the piper dictates the tune. If ASUU wants to fight for increment or better welfarism they face the FG, but now let’s put in place IPPIS, they’re shouting Governing Council.

2. OP saying that if any law contradicts that establishing the University, such law is void to the extent of its inconsistency. Sorry sir but you must be joking. We’re talking about the FG here, headed by the President and C-in-C. All your activities are under the purview of the Ministry of Education. Is it only Universities that are established by Act of Parliament? LAWMA in Lagos is established by an Act of Lagos Parliament. So which cry of autonomy are they crying about. The same person paying you from time immemorial didn’t say he is not paying you, he only said before I use analog now I want to digitalize it and pay all from a central system, you’re shouting Autonomy, when did ASUU become the voice of the Governing Councils ?

3. If ASUU has nothing in its cupboard, then let them embrace IPPIS, sadly, we live in a part of the world that irregularities is just normal. In other clime, all these are non-negotiable. You don’t want to be paid via a uniform digitalized system, then what are you doing here, go back to your private practice now.

4. ASUU should be selective in their battles. On this one, the populace are against them. They should wake up and smell the coffee.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Bellotelli: 6:30am On Oct 29, 2019
This nonsense coming from the University staff. All govt agencies also has a board to oversee the affairs of the agency, and that does not in anyway take away the power of the president to come up with policies for the improvement of the system.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Afamed: 6:32am On Oct 29, 2019
favouryemmy:


You don't have to agree but you should know the truth!
Why must people agree to your lies when most of us experienced this during our University days? From all indications , you have seriously been benefitting from this unscrupulous act. The way , you go around to defend this ASUU impunity

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Laidebrain(m): 6:33am On Oct 29, 2019
Please be precise, it's not true that they have full time jobs. What they have is side hustle like every other citizen hoping to meet the economic demand of the country. We need to see reasons with people sometimes. Not just being enslaved by the government. Give examples of lecturers that you feel have another full time job and what sort of job they do.

Thank you




rottennaija:
A fat lie. Most Nigerian lecturers have multiple full-time jobs. It's just as saying there is no sex for grades in Nigerian Universities.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Laidebrain(m): 6:36am On Oct 29, 2019
Because those ones are being install to the position by the government and will do anything the government bid at the expense of the ASUU and other University workers


jcflex:
Why is ASUU against this policy, since it did not affect them.

why not leave the fight for the University Management and Governing body to address it with goverment, since it affect them more directly.
Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Kureh(m): 6:37am On Oct 29, 2019
Then why are u afraid to join the ippis
Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by MT: 6:38am On Oct 29, 2019
The op's rant does not hold any water. Address the issue you have with IPPIS, don't attempt to whip up public sympathy on this because you won't get one. You and I know majority of you are very corrupt and incompetent. Like someone stated, if you see Nigerians fighting desperately over a particular issue, there's a corruption somewhere there they are trying to protect.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by sleekymag(m): 6:40am On Oct 29, 2019
IPPIS can never show or affect lecturers having double employment with Federal and Private Universities, or Federal and State Universities... It won't really curb that, if that's what it's about. Government needs to sit with ASUU and management of universities to reach an amicable situation that works for everyone.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by drololaaof: 6:41am On Oct 29, 2019
Is it the law that is the paymaster? Is it right to employ somebody and you short pay ? Govt has got some info before stamping the order. All the explanation will not hold water for now key in first and settle the grey areas later

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Samakus(m): 6:43am On Oct 29, 2019
My school pays the least salary in the whole of Southern Nigeria. IPPIS will stop that.

ASUU knows that their 'shoppings' don finally end be that. All those lecturers carrying girls upandan will now have to live to their means.

Very anyhow people

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Acidosis(m): 6:43am On Oct 29, 2019
You should have your head examined if you believe Nigerian lecturers hold multiple jobs in public universities.

IPPIS is not going to change anything because the so called multiple jobs exists only in the private sectors (private universities) and private institutions have no business with IPPIS. Most of the time, Lecturers only hold multiple part-time jobs, and the law supports this 100%.

When a full-time lecturer in OAU for example decides to hold full-time jobs in Bowen and Covenant University, IPPIS won't discover any damn thing by the way.


Lecturers are not f00ls, they see what the average "corruption-zombified" citizen can't see.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by contigiency(m): 6:43am On Oct 29, 2019
jadeliyi:

if you really care to know it not that they are being scared, but the government it self devise means to cheat, in this IPPIS when you are 60 years of age the system automatically remove, and a proffesor who are entil to lecture up to 70 years. not that alone the system is not programme to activate and pay outstanding fee of promotion and allowance. there are other thing they are 'SCARED' of sha.

You lied especially on the bolded statements. You talk as if you are an agent. It has been demonstrated to ASUU time without number that their status and peculiarities will be configured in the IPPIS such that it will accomodate their retirement age and earned allowances. So why are you misleading people here?

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by sleekymag(m): 6:44am On Oct 29, 2019
Geenosko:


My supervisor in university was a full time lecturer in another private university, I even helped him mark scripts and record scores. So it's very disingenuous of you to say that lecturers don't hold multiple jobs. It's definitely not all but quite a few do.

So how can IPPIS detect this? Private uni job vs federal govt job? U think IPPIS will also control private universities? Lol

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Afamed: 6:44am On Oct 29, 2019
Laidebrain:
Please be precise, it's not true that they have full time jobs. What they have is side hustle like every other citizen hoping to meet the economic demand of the country. We need to see reasons with people sometimes. Not just being enslaved by the government. Give examples of lecturers that you feel have another full time job and what sort of job they do.

Thank you




If you are sincere enough with yourself, you will know, most of those Professors only come to school to supervise exams. They practically don't exist to teach until two days to their exams. When I was in University, one of my lecturers only came on Thursday not even to lecture but to attend to administrstive issues

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by stevnwigw1: 6:46am On Oct 29, 2019
This Adjunct nonsense is the reason why many Masters and Ph. D fresh graduates find it difficult to get jobs, even when these old Foo. ls retire, they still employ them as adjunct lecturers paying them over five hundred thousand naira monthly (#500,000), IMSU a case study.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Angelfrost(m): 6:48am On Oct 29, 2019
Didn't bother reading beyond that first line...

Go do some real research... Don't be a dolt.

That was how y'all kept lying and covering up the issue of sex for grades, till BBC pulled down your pants. Mtchewww.

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by rottennaija(m): 6:50am On Oct 29, 2019
Laidebrain:
Please be precise, it's not true that they have full time jobs. What they have is side hustle like every other citizen hoping to meet the economic demand of the country. We need to see reasons with people sometimes. Not just being enslaved by the government. Give examples of lecturers that you feel have another full time job and what sort of job they do.

Thank you
My dear, I'm not sentimental. I spent 5 good years studying engineering in the university. I had lecturers who wouldn't come to class untill the last few weeks to exams, when they will come rushing us, giving us material to read etc.

Why? Because they had another job which they couldn't joke with but could joke with us in the federal universities. So don't be sentimental! This is Nigeria and those nonsense happens.



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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Afamed: 6:53am On Oct 29, 2019
favouryemmy:


You don't have to agree but you should know the truth!
This was how you defended Lecturer against sex with students until your bubbles were bursted by BBC
Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by EduTechTainMent: 6:53am On Oct 29, 2019
stevnwigw1:
This Adjunct nonsense is the reason why many Masters and Ph. D fresh graduates find it difficult to get jobs, even when these old Foo. ls retire, they still employ them as adjunct lecturers paying them over five hundred thousand naira monthly (#500,000), IMSU a case study.

I don talk am fr my post above. How den will d youths be employed wen every policy is set to make dem remain unemployed - retirement age for Profs 70 yrs and for all other cadre of acsdmic and non academic staff 65 yrs. Ppl go tey fr Labour Market b dat na. Make God help man pikin kawai!!!
Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Samakus(m): 6:54am On Oct 29, 2019
ASUU, just one question for you.

How come ASUP (Polytechnics' version of ASUU) are at home with IPPIS and you're not?

Just like Balotelli asked... WHY ALWAYS YOU?

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by EduTechTainMent: 6:54am On Oct 29, 2019
EduTechTainMent:


I don talk am fr my post above. How den will d youths be employed wen every policy is set to make dem remain unemployed - retirement age for Profs 70 yrs and for all other cadre of acsdmic and non academic staff 65 yrs. Ppl go tey fr Labour Market b dat na. Make God help man pikin kawai!!!

While this may be good in the long run, trust Nigerians to abuse the system.
Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by Nobody: 6:55am On Oct 29, 2019
RichDad1:

But these can also be factored into the IPPIS.

Ask the core civil service whether they didn't lose their overtime, etc, when IPPIS was instituted. For external examiners, a university (or many) where they don't work will pay these monies, and IPPIS will show them as suspicious transactions. Remember that it's usually the senior professors and authorities within the area of study that come, with allowances for their hotel.and feeding etc. For someone who doesn't see the importance of education to national development, it would certainly appear as if these are frivolous expenses.
The flip side of this discourse is that aides of governors and councillors of local governments draw multiple times more than professors in travel and entertainment allowances, hence you find professors agreeing to become aides to politicians. How are we calibrating our national formula sef? Where will this take us?

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Re: IPPIS: Nigerian Lecturers Do Not Hold Multiple Full Time Lecturing Jobs by contigiency(m): 6:57am On Oct 29, 2019
IPPIS will only stop FG staffs from holding a full time job in another FG institutions. But can't stop such when the other job is in private institution because the private institutions are not in IPPIS.

One major thing the IPPIS will address is that the actual wage bill of the institutions will be ascertained because the issue of ghost workers will be eliminated. More so, the issue of illegal recruitments will be checkmated since every recruitments will be justified with all necessary approvals shown as evidence before any employed staff gets enrolled for salaries.

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