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| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 5:51pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
jimyjames:I'd ask around but you need to tell me where the park avenue is located in Enugu, I'm more conversant with Onitsha because that's where I live. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by jimyjames(m): 6:00pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:No wonder u are asking all these unnecessary questions |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by gidgiddy: 6:03pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
mercyville:Let me tell you something you may not know. Theres a big difference between being landlocked and having access to the sea. Both are not the same thing. London is a landlocked city but London handles majority of British shipping. That's because London has waterways that lead from it to ocean such the River Thames and the River Lea. London has several River ports and many barges. Technology has gone far. Gone are the days when you need a big wharf by the ocean before you can import or export. All you need now are water ways and barges or crane mounted barges. Crane mounted barges can go out to sea, meet a coastliner, discharge or receive goods or containers and return to an inland River port without need for a wharf. One barge can carry hundreds of containers. A River port can be built in Oguta in Imo or Obuaku in Abia, both Oguta and Obuaku both have tributaries that run from them to the Ocean. Onitsha in Anambra already has a River port The SE might be landlocked, but it definitely has access to the Sea. However, Igbo land exceeds the so called SE |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by amuwo1980: 6:07pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:You had to read it twice and go home and reflected on it before it slammed home, you are as useless as they come, that's why the country is the poverty capital of the world, the black race spits you out, you and ur type have held 200million ppl in poverty and disease and want. Let's see as your sought after war will pan out. Dog |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 6:31pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
jimyjames:If you can't tell me where your park avenue is in Enugu then shove it, what if several of such all over Enugu? Just the neighbourhood and you're complaining |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 6:34pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Your waterways would still lead into the open sea which is the Bight of Benin in the Atlantic, it belongs to Nigeria. Are you going to trespass Nigerian territory if not asking for trouble? |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 6:37pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
amuwo1980:Nobody wants a war and I wrote that in black and white in the post you quoted before you start blackmailing me of wanting a war against the Igbos. Must you guys always lie? The bolded won't be tolerated, be guided |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by RTSC: 7:01pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:Given the massive lose in quality human capital and the patriotic zeal for survival on the biafran side, my money would be on biafrans expanding their territory in 10-15 years just like isreal did in the middle east. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 7:04pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
RTSC:Expanding into where, Nigeria? Lol. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by jimyjames(m): 7:22pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:Lol you are dull my friend I can't waste my time with you, you have never been to Enugu the capital of Enugu, else you will know I just gave you the address, No 7 park Avenue GRA |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 7:25pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
jimyjames:E pain am, I guess you didn't see where I said I don't know Enugu much because I live in Onitsha and far more conversant with Onitsha. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by jimyjames(m): 7:30pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:You don't know Enugu at all my friend, even this Onitsha you are mentioning up and down I bet you don't know |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 7:32pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
jimyjames:I'll sell you in Onitsha dear, I did my internship in Enugu and relocated to this great city. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by jimyjames(m): 7:37pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:No doubt, nairaland Onitsha well done, you sound like a grave digger, pant seller, human body part Merchant, from the W side |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 7:40pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
jimyjames:Enough of the Enugu and Onitsha talk before we derail, thread is about what Igbos would lose if they decide to secede from Nigeria. You don't need to tell me what you do for a living |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by RTSC: 7:51pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:Don't worry. Just pray Nigeria never divides. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Malawian(m): 8:59pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:\ With an Independent Biafra, those waterways becomes "international Waters" |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 9:04pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Malawian:lol, just as Ghanaians and Cameroonians can use Nigerian waterways today. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by gidgiddy: 9:48pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:Not really. International law says that when a country is in entitled to a sea corridor if it is within 60 nautical miles of the sea. I know for a fact that parts of Imo and Bia are less than 20 nautical miles from the sea. In the event that Biafra is declared, Nigeria is bound by Article 125 of the United Nation Convention On Laws Of The Sea(UNCLOS) to provide Biafra with a Sea corridor to move goods and humans. This is international law which if Nigeria breaks, Biafra will not only have the right to take Nigeria to court, Biafra will also have the to apply to the United Nation to place sanctions on Nigeria for breaking international law. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by MetaPhysical: 9:56pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
gidgiddy:You are applying for recognition under indegenity rules for native people. Are you not aware of this? So, once you are granted right of indigeneous independence you will be excluded from infringing or accessing or occupying or having claims to native lands and indigeneous groups outside Biafra. The entry waters from sea up the delta into the hinterland belong to a indigeneous people and they are not Biafrans. Those indigenes have claims like you do to have their space respected and excluded from your access. Beside, even if you are given access, we will build gates at the sea entrance and toll your ships in and out. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by MetaPhysical: 9:58pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Gidygiddy When i have time im going to follow up and verify this rule you quoted. I trust you but i have to inspect it and be sure no fast one is pulled. ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 10:35pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:I decided not to reply him because I've educated him on this topic on maritime and sea sovereignty but he prefers to repeat the lies as if it will become the truth with time |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 10:54pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:No need stressing yourself, the case is simple. Akwa-Cross and Ijaws are not going with Biafra nor forming any country, If Biafrans ship their goods from say Onitsha, Oguta or Obuaku, The ship gets to sea after passing through Ijaw and Kalabari land which are Nigerian, The open sea Nigeria controls is 12 nautical miles(22.224 km) from her coast, that is Nigeria's territorial sea and how would Biafran ships pass through without any agreement or permission from Nigeria? Imagine passing through Nigerian land and sea territories and that one is shouting one treaty or the other. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by amuwo1980: 10:59pm On Oct 29, 2019 |
Area4Area:Get the f**k off |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by ludd2018: 12:28am On Oct 30, 2019 |
jimyjames:spot on bros fact! |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Tobichimezie: 2:39am On Oct 30, 2019 |
Area4Area:I can count 20 so called landlocked countries right now off the top of my head that are far far far better than your Nigeria, don't even outdo yourself by sounding ignorant. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by DMerciful(m): 3:12am On Oct 30, 2019*. Modified: 5:42am On Oct 30, 2019 |
If Biafra goes, the country will be balkanized! The north understands this. Read about Yugoslavia and USSR breakup! Nigeria started with 3 regions, it has been broken to many states, this is a testament to the looming fragmentation Area4Area: |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by DMerciful(m): 3:58am On Oct 30, 2019 |
I'm Ika and will definitely join Biafra! Any country where true federalism and meritocracy will be practice is where the future lies. With Hausa-Fulani calling the shots, Nigeria without Igbos cannot be better than Niger or Somalia and eventually Nigeria will be Islamised Area4Area: |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by DMerciful(m): 4:22am On Oct 30, 2019 |
Awolowo, Amadu Bello, Enahoro, Balewa all wanted seccession clause but only one man Zik opposed them and had his way? What kind of fuckery is this? If this is true it shows they were extremely weak leaders! mauriceju2: |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by wirinet(m): 8:44am On Oct 30, 2019 |
DMerciful:Not week leaders, naive leaders. Zik convinced his childhood friend Sir Ahmadu Bello, through a letter, to reject separate countries and secession clause. Once Ahmadu bello came on board one indivisible Nigeria slogan promoted by Zik, there was nothing Awolowo could do. |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by gidgiddy: 9:30am On Oct 30, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:Nigerians pick up the map of Nigeria and look at it but what they dont see are the water ways. If you look at a proper map of Nigeria with its water ways, you will see that Oguta in Imo state and Obuaku in Abia state have tributaries that run from them to the Atlantic Ocean. River posts can be built in those two places in addition to the one that already exists in Onitsha. Portharcourt has a Sea port but that port is not even by the Sea Let's say for example that the 5 SE states is what eventually becomes Republic Of Biafra, Nigeria cannot stop Biafra building River ports in Obuaku and Oguta nor deny them access to the Sea via those ports. The simple reason is that Article 125 of UNCLOS mandates Nigeria to give Biafra access to Sea via Biafran water ways. That same UNCLOS is what gives Nigeria the right to its territorial waters. So Nigeria cannot choose to uphold one part of the law and ignore the other part. Article 125 of UCLOS states: Article 125 Right of access to and from the sea and freedom of transit 1. Land-locked States shall have the right of access to and from the sea for the purpose of exercising the rights provided for in this Convention including those relating to the freedom of the high seas and the common heritage of mankind. To this end, land-locked States shall enjoy freedom of transit through the territory of transit States by all means of transport. 2. The terms and modalities for exercising freedom of transit shall be agreed between the land-locked States and transit States concerned through bilateral, subregional or regional agreements. 3. Transit States, in the exercise of their full sovereignty over their territory, shall have the right to take all measures necessary to ensure that the rights and facilities provided for in this Part for land-locked States shall in no way infringe their legitimate interests So anybody who thinks that Nigeria will have the right to bottle up Biafra and deny it access to the sea is just a dreamer |
| Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by ITbomb(m): 9:38am On Oct 30, 2019 |
Is it your suffer? |
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